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Post by weatherbeater on Oct 13, 2016 11:28:18 GMT -5
Leaving Wynford out of it. The entire league got screwed. Very suspicious. Totally distroyed the credibility of the awards.
Another way to look at it.
How does a second place team with a lopsided loss to the eventual undefeated league champion win every single award - Offensive , Defensive, Special Teams, and Coach? Not one award, but every award. If you truly had all of that talent, then you should have easily won the league or at least be competitive with the league champion. The awards should have been spread out through the league if your league champion did not have great talent.
Who has the most influencial AD? Who has the least popular coach?
Watch for more of the same this year.
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Post by fbfan on Oct 14, 2016 6:33:22 GMT -5
Again, they went undefeated in the conference. How do they do that without having at least 1 of those 3? OPOY, DPOY, or COY Probably had something to do with all the other players on the TEAM who were not POY candidates. |
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Oct 14, 2016 19:30:04 GMT -5
Wynford 21 Seneca East 6, half
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Oct 14, 2016 21:02:26 GMT -5
Finals:
Wynford 35, Seneca East 12
Mohawk 28, Upper Sandusky 26
Carey 48, Ridgedale 6
Buckeye Central 41, Bucyrus 40
Col Crawford 47, Lucas 20
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Post by galion on Oct 15, 2016 4:44:19 GMT -5
Again, they went undefeated in the conference. How do they do that without having at least 1 of those 3? OPOY, DPOY, or COY Probably had something to do with all the other players on the TEAM who were not POY candidates. Not likely when they beat the team that allegedly had all 3. In fact, I would wager that if the POY winners were on Wynford's team that they wouldn't have been their best offensive or defensive players. |
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Post by fbfan on Oct 15, 2016 6:26:42 GMT -5
That doesn't make sense. The only measure other than opinion is the stats they put up against the same league. The POY's had better stats with a lesser supporting cast. Which is probably a big part of what the voters made their decision on. Wish I could take that bet.
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Post by galion on Oct 15, 2016 8:04:10 GMT -5
Doesn't make sense that the best player(s) on CC's team, who won the awards last season, weren't better than the best player(s) on Wynford's team? I don't see what the confusion is.
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Post by fbfan on Oct 15, 2016 8:50:11 GMT -5
You asked how Wynford went undefeated without having a POY.
I replied that it had to do with the other players on Wynford's TEAM who were not their POY candidates.
You said not likely because they beat CC.
So if it's "not likely" that the rest of Wynford's TEAM was better than the rest of CC's TEAM, then you believe their success was do to only two players who got "jobbed" in the awards?
We both know we're talking about the QB's on offense, who are you talking about on D for Wynford? I can't find many Wynford players among the individual statistical leaders, as CC's safety was, but Wynfords TEAM surely had the best defense in the league.
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Post by weatherbeater on Oct 15, 2016 10:46:02 GMT -5
That is great. But it is well known that certain schools award tackles for smelling the ball carrier. If the CC QB, WR/Safety, and Coach were so awesome why did they completely disappear against Wynford? Just maybe they padded their stats in games against inferior opponents. I would never argue the validity of any one of them getting an award, but for the 2nd place team to receive every league award is a complete joke. I would even have a hard time justifying the 1st place receiving all 4 awards. You will never convince me that there was not any backroom nonsense going on. As I said just wait for more of the same this year. I guess the repeated championships and never losing a N10 league game is meaningless.
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Post by galion on Oct 15, 2016 11:30:55 GMT -5
Quite simply the Wynford qb was better last season than the CC qb. It's not debatable. But you're going to want want to play the stats game(which were pretty similar). But if you want to solely base the award on stats then the SE qb should have won it. Either way the CC kid had no business winning that award. So far as defense goes, I don't understand your desire to penalize a kid for being on a better team. If a lesser player has better stats because he happens to be the key player on a worse team why is he worthy of POY honors when he's clearly not the best player in the conference? This isn't fantasy football here.
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Post by fbfan on Oct 15, 2016 11:47:55 GMT -5
weatherbeater, Wynford's accomplishments as a team are truely remarkable and I've tried to bring that out in my posts. But to say for that reason alone that they MUST have the best individual offensive and defensive players, with no other reasons given, is just an opinion, to which everyone is entitled. Obviously, the voters on the awards have their opinions also. While many times it is true that the POYs are from the best team, I don't think that you would have to look to hard at leagues and conferences at any level to find an example of them not. In my opinion, (and others as well) this is one of those times.
As for your other allegations, you offer nothing else but your opinion, which is OK, I don't have to believe it.
By the way, I know for a fact that CC's award winners would trade them for Wynford's TEAM awards in a heartbeat. Feel fortunate and don't get too caught up in individual awards, it's a distraction at playoff time.
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Post by fbfan on Oct 15, 2016 12:07:49 GMT -5
Quite simply the Wynford qb was better last season than the CC qb. It's not debatable. But you're going to want want to play the stats game(which were pretty similar). But if you want to solely base the award on stats then the SE qb should have won it. Either way the CC kid had no business winning that award. So far as defense goes, I don't understand your desire to penalize a kid for being on a better team. If a lesser player has better stats because he happens to be the key player on a worse team why is he worthy of POY honors when he's clearly not the best player in the conference? This isn't fantasy football here. SE QB: 2219 pass yds., 25 TD. Not listed as a rushing leader, had to be below 335. Total offense = 2554 yds. (or less) Wyn. QB: 1197 pass yd., 16 TD, 1311 rushing yds., 22 TD Total offense = 2508 yds., 38 TD CC QB: 1302 pass yds., 12 TD, 2003 rushing yds., 30 TD Total offense = 3305 yds., 42 TD So everyone can be a judge and have an opinion. You know mine. |
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Post by fbfan on Oct 15, 2016 12:49:02 GMT -5
So this week should decide who wins the N9... should be fun at SE Friday night Does the winning QB of Seneca East-Wynford also get POY? League leading Qb from SE leads team to an opening 72 yard drive to take the lead 6-0. Injures own hamstring celebrating and cannot return for the rest of the game. Wynford goes on to win 35-12. |
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Post by fbfan on Oct 22, 2016 15:25:41 GMT -5
Week 9:
Wynford 53, Upper Sandusky 0
Mohawk 47, Ridgedale 0
Colonel Crawford 34, Buckeye Central 6
Carey 63, Bucyrus 28
Seneca East 28, Tiffin Calvert 16
Wynford has clinched a home playoff game. Seneca East has clinched a playoff berth. Colonel Crawford can clinch a playoff game with a win over Upper in week 10.
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Post by fbfan on Oct 23, 2016 7:34:28 GMT -5
Does anyone know if SE's QB that was injured, play in their win over Tiffin Calvert?
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Post by galion on Oct 24, 2016 3:49:44 GMT -5
I would think he would have had to for them to win like that.
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Post by Hagen on Oct 24, 2016 9:41:46 GMT -5
Does anyone know if SE's QB that was injured, play in their win over Tiffin Calvert? He did not. Via the Tiffin paper: "Seneca East had a major challenge when it became clear injured veteran quarterback Brennan Martin was not going to be able to play and Brock (Martin) answered in a big way." Link: Tigers clinch playoff spot, down Calvert |
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Post by fbfan on Oct 24, 2016 15:07:30 GMT -5
Good win for SE.
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