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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 26, 2019 21:49:54 GMT -5
needs to be a part of the rotation --period brings a lot of energy. Brings outside shooting, a missing component of this team
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Post by sportsjock on Feb 27, 2019 15:23:19 GMT -5
I love the kids shooting style, think he will be proving himself, with increased PT. Also impressed with his calm, relaxed demeanor at the post game interview. He has the composure of an experience Sr. Letterman, instead of the green freshman he is.
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Post by ronburgandy on Mar 1, 2019 13:19:35 GMT -5
The team took a hit today with Kaleb Wesson getting suspended. The statement says he will be back this season though. Just when it seemed like things were maybe starting to trend up...
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Post by sportsjock on Mar 1, 2019 15:35:09 GMT -5
The Buckeyes suddenly become even more vertically challenged, for at least one game. The press release hints he will be back for Northwestern, if not....Wisconsin. It could get rather ugly this Saturday.
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Post by sportsjock on Mar 2, 2019 17:42:04 GMT -5
As we were expecting, things got rather ugly. I think the hidden positive was getting the young freshmen game experience. Ledee has moves and nice touch. He's going to be a good one.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 2, 2019 21:07:57 GMT -5
I'm not sure even this has any meaning to bighose, how Wesson's 14.4 and 6.7 is missed. There is such a thing as intangibles.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2019 21:47:44 GMT -5
I'm not sure even this has any meaning to bighose, how Wesson's 14.4 and 6.7 is missed. There is such a thing as intangibles. Sorry Hendo. They were losing this game with or without him. The Wesson’s and Jackson are trash. Clearly not leaders on or off the court. Remember how Holtmann thanked Matta for leaving behind leaders KBD and Tate? Yet to hear him say anything close to that about the Wessons and Jackson
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Post by sportsjock on Mar 3, 2019 6:23:12 GMT -5
The Wesson absence greatly enhanced Purdue's strengths and further exposed and amplified the Buckeyes weaknesses. Not only logistics of the game, but the mental aspect were at play = blowout.
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Post by ronburgandy on Mar 6, 2019 21:32:13 GMT -5
bighoss thinks Kaleb Wesson is trash. Look at the offense without him these last two games. They’re 8 minutes into this northwestern game and have no field goals yet.
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Post by utsherman on Mar 6, 2019 22:03:36 GMT -5
This game is gross.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 23:15:47 GMT -5
bighoss thinks Kaleb Wesson is trash. Look at the offense without him these last two games. They’re 8 minutes into this northwestern game and have no field goals yet. So if he were playing they would start making shots? Didn’t watch the game so have no idea if they were missing open shots or contested. If you can’t handle things off the court then you’re no use to the program
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Post by sportsjock on Mar 7, 2019 6:43:37 GMT -5
There is virtually no inside/outside game without Kaleb's presence. This team looks like lost children without his presence. One players absence, should not have that kind of impact, but it does.
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Post by ronburgandy on Mar 7, 2019 11:57:35 GMT -5
bighoss thinks Kaleb Wesson is trash. Look at the offense without him these last two games. They’re 8 minutes into this northwestern game and have no field goals yet. So if he were playing they would start making shots? Didn’t watch the game so have no idea if they were missing open shots or contested. If you can’t handle things off the court then you’re no use to the program Its not just about making shots, they have no one inside at all like sportsjock said. Having Kaleb in there makes it much easier on other players, he can get his own shot and he’s already shown he’s a very good passer out of the post. Our offense misses him badly and it’s shown the last two games.
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Post by dude on Mar 7, 2019 16:02:28 GMT -5
One players absence, should not have that kind of impact, but it does. It sure would have that impact when the team is built around that guy being there. Holtman does not have his roster full of his recruits yet so they are a young team that plays around KW. As bad as that may sound it is true.
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Post by sportsjock on Mar 7, 2019 18:11:11 GMT -5
I'm not the least bit concerned or disappointed at this year's team. Think most fans realize this a team in the making and are content with delaying any expectations till next year. Think the NIT will get a lot of these kids additional PT. It would be nice to get 2 or 3 additional games added to their season.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 19:38:02 GMT -5
I'm not the least bit concerned or disappointed at this year's team. Think most fans realize this a team in the making and are content with delaying any expectations till next year. Think the NIT will get a lot of these kids additional PT. It would be nice to get 2 or 3 additional games added to their season. Currently still firmly In the field as a 10 seed
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 7, 2019 22:03:32 GMT -5
I'm not sure even this has any meaning to bighose, how Wesson's 14.4 and 6.7 is missed. There is such a thing as intangibles. Sorry Hendo. They were losing this game with or without him. The Wesson’s and Jackson are trash. Clearly not leaders on or off the court. Remember how Holtmann thanked Matta for leaving behind leaders KBD and Tate? Yet to hear him say anything close to that about the Wessons and Jackson Digbat basketball mind, there is ABSOLUTELY no comparison between a the worst PG in the Big Ten, the older can't do anything well Wesson and the one that's 6-9 270, that has to be doubled to stop.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 7, 2019 22:07:55 GMT -5
Do you account for the MANY times he gets doubled when he gets the ball in the post? After which he dutifully passes it to an open teammate instead of putting up a shot. If he didn't get into foul trouble so often he would score more points. How many points should he be averaging as a Sophomore? Before answering, take into account the following. The Top 10 Centers in Ohio State history. 10 Lawrence Funderburke 14.7, 3 years 9 Frank Howard 17.4, 4 years 8 Ken Johnson 8.3, 4 years 7 Greg Oden 15.7, 1 year 6 Terence Dials 11.9, 4 years 5 Brad Sellers 17.8, 2 years, played 2 years for Wisconsin (I completely forgot this) 4 Luke Witte 16.6, 3 years 3 Clark Kellogg 14.9, 3 years 2 Perry Carter 12.8, 4 years 1 Herb Williams 17.4, 4 years Caleb Wesson is currently averaging 14.4/game. The above player's average ALSO includes games against early season opponents. According to the above list 17.4 would be a GREAT number. If he averaged 3 more/game how many more wins does that equate to? Hoser, READ the above AGAIN. All we heard from you were crickets for days after it was posted. Now you're doltishly whining again, after proven not knowledgeable before?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 22:23:35 GMT -5
I’m tired of your childish name calling. You have officially been reported
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 22:27:40 GMT -5
Also from your list have any of those even played in this decade? Mind you it is the last year of this one. Basketball is a perimeter game. Dribble drive,ever heard of it? Nobody is recruiting 6-7 fat kids anymore to play center
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 8, 2019 20:21:44 GMT -5
I'm not sure even this has any meaning to bighose, how Wesson's 14.4 and 6.7 is missed. There is such a thing as intangibles. Sorry Hendo. They were losing this game with or without him. The Wesson’s and Jackson are trash. Clearly not leaders on or off the court. Remember how Holtmann thanked Matta for leaving behind leaders KBD and Tate? Yet to hear him say anything close to that about the Wessons and Jackson /\ I just speak as spoken too /\.... Hendo? Report away, while you're at it don't forget to report yourself. Who was the FIRST to be "childish". <<<< Yet another.
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Post by dude on Mar 11, 2019 12:45:04 GMT -5
Wesson to return.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 14:01:48 GMT -5
Interesting when his brother fouled out they made their run yesterday
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 11, 2019 14:14:22 GMT -5
Also from your list have any of those even played in this decade? Mind you it is the last year of this one. Basketball is a perimeter game. Dribble drive,ever heard of it? Nobody is recruiting 6-7 fat kids anymore to play center You wouldn't want any of those players on your team?? 6-9 and 40 pounds lighter than in high school. IMO he should drop some more, it would help his defense. Why do teams double him in the post? They can't stop his 6-9 270 post moves. Of the past 10 years 8 were under Matta and he did recruit three 7-footers. All left after their Freshman season. You are being silly again thinking that in this "age" of dribble drive Every coach in the country doesn't want a back to the basket rim protector on his team. This "age" you speak of is nothing new. Your knowledge of "age" is myopic. You didn't see Jimmy Jackson, John Havlichek, Kelvin Ransey, Jay Burson, Jimmy Cleamons and Scoonie Penn play for Ohio State YEARS ago??
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 14:29:17 GMT -5
Also from your list have any of those even played in this decade? Mind you it is the last year of this one. Basketball is a perimeter game. Dribble drive,ever heard of it? Nobody is recruiting 6-7 fat kids anymore to play center You wouldn't want any of those players on your team?? 6-9 and 40 pounds lighter than in high school. IMO he should drop some more, it would help his defense. Why do teams double him in the post? They can't stop his 6-9 270 post moves. Of the past 10 years 8 were under Matta and he did recruit three 7-footers. All left after their Freshman season. You are being silly again thinking that in this "age" of dribble drive Every coach in the country doesn't want a back to the basket rim protector on his team. This "age" you speak of is nothing new. Your knowledge of "age" is myopic. You didn't see Jimmy Jackson, John Havlichek, Kelvin Ransey, Jay Burson, Jimmy Cleamons and Scoonie Penn play for Ohio State YEARS ago?? Jim Jackson and Scoonie Penn yes. Never heard of Ramsey. Not old enough to really remember Burson. My parents aren’t old enough to remember Havlicek at Ohio State.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 11, 2019 15:28:26 GMT -5
It's Ra"N"sey. Your issues result from a lack of history of Ohio State basketball and thinking there was no such thing is "dribble drive" before this decade.
Ontario's '95 Final Four team didn't have a player over 6-1 on the roster and were known for all of their starters being good 3-point shooters. BUT if you defended them to closely at the 3-point line, they would "dribble drive" around you for a 2 pointer. Ya see, I heard and SAW a lot of "dribble drive" even at the high school level 25 years ago. You not knowing basketball before the 3-point line days, what do you suppose most coaches wanted from their players then? "Dribble drive" instead of outside shots.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 11, 2019 15:38:49 GMT -5
I know you've heard of these Big Body back to the basket players, they played since the turn of the Century in the "age" of "dribble drive". Luke Harongody, Joakin Noah, Sean May, Juan Blair, Michael Beasley, Emeka Okafur, Blake Griffin, Anthony Davis, Jahlil Okafor, Joel Embid, Jusuf Nurik, Andrea Drummond, Enis Kanter, DeMarcus Cousins. All 1st round draft picks. You wouldn't want them?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 17:00:57 GMT -5
It's Ra"N"sey. Your issues result from a lack of history of Ohio State basketball and thinking there was no such thing is "dribble drive" before this decade. Ontario's '95 Final Four team didn't have a player over 6-1 on the roster and were known for all of their starters being good 3-point shooters. BUT if you defended them to closely at the 3-point line, they would "dribble drive" around you for a 2 pointer. Ya see, I heard and SAW a lot of "dribble drive" even at the high school level 25 years ago. You not knowing basketball before the 3-point line days, what do you suppose most coaches wanted from their players then? "Dribble drive" instead of outside shots. Funny you correct my spelling of someone yet you can’t even spell Havlicek correctly. There’s no K chief. Also, you are correct. I’ve never watched a basketball game without the 3 point line. I don’t care what a high school team did 24 years ago. By the way, did they happen to win the title? You clearly don’t know what dribble drive means. It’s an offense, not a term that you use when someone is guarding you tightly. Your analogy is horrible. You are trying to defend Fat Wesson because he frees up shooters, yet you talk about how a team with no height made it to the final 4.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 11, 2019 17:32:16 GMT -5
You SHOULD care about what basketball was like before the 3-point line. Almost all coaches before that year wanted a lot of "dribble driving", yes even before your "era". A "dribble drive" that resulted in a close shot paid the same as an "outside" shot and the 5 was higher.
A motion offense can get players good looks for 3-pointers OR facilitate "dribble drives". Only a neophyte would think dribble drives only happen in a "dribble drive" offense. In an offense like Norwalk's, Haraway is given pretty the a green light to "dribble drive" any time he wants to. Out of no offense. no set plays, without a pick, just do it.
You have me confused with someone else. I have NEVER claimed the biggest asset of Wesson is to free up outside shooters. His high % shots in the paint will garner more points over an extended period than his passes to 3 point shooters. AGAIN, that is why teams double team him in the post. They want to stop an easy 2-pointer and allow 3-pointers. Believe it or not, college coaches look at and play by the percentages.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 17:33:24 GMT -5
I know you've heard of these Big Body back to the basket players, they played since the turn of the Century in the "age" of "dribble drive". Luke Harongody, Joakin Noah, Sean May, Juan Blair, Michael Beasley, Emeka Okafur, Blake Griffin, Anthony Davis, Jahlil Okafor, Joel Embid, Jusuf Nurik, Andrea Drummond, Enis Kanter, DeMarcus Cousins. All 1st round draft picks. You wouldn't want them? Luke Harongody:2 round pick, flop. Also was a stretch 4. Joakin Noah:roll player. Decent career Sean May:flop Juan Blair:who? Do you mean DeJaun Blair? Also a 2nd round pick, flop Michael Beasley: He’s a wing, not a post Okafur: flop, no outside shot Griffin: is now hitting 3’s Davis: is now hitting 3’s Okafor:back up, flop for the 3rd pick overall Embid: is now hitting 3’s Nurik: didn’t play college. No idea why you would use him Drummond: most his points come from offensive rebounds or a guard driving and ditching Kanter: bust for 3rd round overall Cousins: I’ll give you him So to tie this in a knot, everyone wants a 7 foot athletic center. The only thing the Wesson is of those 3 is a center. You claim to be some big time business man correct? Do you do things in 2019 as you did in 1979? Sports just like everything evolves over time. The last dominant big man that played solely on the low block was Shaq. And his last decent season was 2007
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