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Post by Whittaker on Oct 4, 2018 15:23:18 GMT -5
Men and women are different. No matter how many 'woke' people try to tell you they are the same, hold onto the truth that they are different. Because the failure to recognize basic truths leads to all kinds of idiocy and injustice. And that idiocy and injustice will be mocked and illustrated in many ways, including sarcasm.
This is not a total condemnation of Title IX. The goal of providing similar higher education opportunities to both men and women is not, in itself, wrong. A man, while not identical to a woman, is also not superior to her in value to society. Government policy should be based on the truth that the sexes are different and tend to have different talents, weaknesses, aspirations and priorities.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 4, 2018 16:14:55 GMT -5
My statement comes from a member of management for the largest privately owned software company in the world. They NOW, just the past couple of years, favor math majors over computer science majors. The more courses, the more credits, the more years specializing in math, over all else the better. Nevermind, forgot who I am dealing with... walking away slowly... I could only change my statement as you asked, to say. "My daughter, who works for SAS Institute". I have read her papers, seen her presentations at conferences, had in depth conversations.. She has often said that more Math Majors are being sought. As I look back, my error was saying "no longer desire". The desire has shifted in the last couple of years to hire Math Majors. Which are harder to find, that have an interest to work for software companies. Since I shared, who do you work for? "The Power To Know"
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 4, 2018 18:00:48 GMT -5
The point behind my sarcasm was if this site were to tighten up the posting would be reduced by half or maybe more. . Not necessarily true, the way it looks 2 or 3 members have 8 or 9 user names
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Post by heresjim on Oct 4, 2018 19:13:15 GMT -5
K, sorry I bothered you guys. I'll just discuss local sports on a NFL forum from now on. No bother. Your opinion on how this site should be moderated is the kind of discussion that is allowed here. I know because I have been critical on this site(and it's predecessor) and they have never censored me. Sites that have a stricter moderation policies usually make criticism of administrators and moderators a serious offense. Ironically, your post questioning the staff's judgement would probably result in discipline under the level of moderation you suggest. The people who run this site and the previous one have always resisted heavy-handed moderation. That results in an 'edgy' message board, which is what I prefer. To each his own I guess. Are you aware that you can block posters if you find their posts objectionable? The ability of the individual member to block content they don't wish to see, while enjoying the freedom to express the complete range of their own views, is ideal IMO. We have some smart guys on here, but they are not shrinking violets. I wanna hear what people really think, not just what the 'community' deems appropriate. I'm not sure these guys could coexist under tight moderation...Dr Torch, WF, Galion, Dude, Rambo, Scooter, Hoss, and a few others. We could add a hundred new posters and not fill the hole left by pushing out 3 or 4 independent thinkers. Have you been to a website that is properly moderated? Its not repressive, it is a breath of fresh air. It's not hard to find people who understand how not to oppress a site through moderation. Just look at the site that I linked and tell me if its a repressive environment. To illustrate my frustration, there is a thread on this site that talks about college recruits for the SBC. That is a legitimate topic. However, the person who started the thread is a troll and all the posts that follow are responding to the troll. What am I to do? Start my own college recruits thread? Post information in there to just see it get swamped by off topic posts? Its literally hurting the content and the ability of the site to relay information. Blocking does nothing, it leaves gaps in conversations, it is easily bypassed by people quoting the poster, it doesn't correct behavior, it still allows posters to steers the conversations of the thread off course, etc... It's not effective. I've said enough. I posted my thoughts and ideas. If you disagree, you disagree. No one has actually pushed this site to its limits yet. If someone wanted to start 100s of topics in 1 day that are nonsense, there is nothing to really stop them. If they want to spam posts and garbage, again, nothing to stop them.
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Post by Whittaker on Oct 4, 2018 20:27:08 GMT -5
Have you been to a site that is properly moderated?
Yes. This one. Its not perfect but I like the way Scarlet and the gang moderate.
It's not hard to find people who understand how not to oppress a site through moderation. Just look at the site that I linked and tell me if its a repressive environment. Its not repressive, it is a breath of fresh air.
Sure, its not repressive to you. You like that level of moderation. I don't. I don't want my post deleted because someone else thinks its not exactly on topic, or too snarky, or too sarcastic, or doesn't add to the conversation. My feeling is when I take the time to write a post and some PC obsessed mod deletes it, that is repressive to me. I understand many other sites have strict moderation. I avoid those sites, or post on them until I get banned, depending on my mood.
I understand your desire for more moderation. You may want to visit The Huddle. Here are some of their rules:
We do not allow the use of direct profanity on the forums. The use of profanity or attempts to circumvent the profanity filter will likely result in the entire thread being deleted and possible suspension at the discretion of either a forum moderator or administrator. So don't do it. No SHOUTING. It's just plain rude and annoying. Typing in ALL CAPS may result in your post being deleted. These are not the only forums in existence nor are they in any way a public forum for unrestricted free speech. If at any time you feel that these forums are not reflective of your views, agenda, beliefs or intellect, then feel free to find other public forums that do and post there. Do not attempt to form these forums to fit you. The Huddle reserves the right to perform any action which includes, but is not limited to: moving, closing, editing or deleting of any posting, profile, avatar and/or signature for any reason whatsoever at our sole discretion, without prior notification or explanation to the user
Be careful of this one. Moderation actions are not up for debate or public scrutiny. Any topics or posts intended to question moderator actions (whether justified or not) will be closed/deleted and the member will be dealt with severely, usually leading up to suspension or removal from the forums permanently.
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Post by homewrecker on Oct 4, 2018 20:30:41 GMT -5
You don’t want to make things too uptight on here. People want the human side of live post that’s why they are on here. If you just want to look at boring stats from a game grab a newspaper. People will get bored and stop posting and viewing . Some times live conversation goes askew for a bit that’s the real world. Hey Jim You know back in the 40’s there was a guy that wanted to monitor how everything was written and what you were allowed to read. He wanted to control all the info people had access to. His name was Adolf Hitler. in case you didn't read the first time
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Post by heresjim on Oct 4, 2018 20:33:49 GMT -5
Have you been to a site that is properly moderated? Yes. This one. Its not perfect but I like the way Scarlet and the gang moderate. It's not hard to find people who understand how not to oppress a site through moderation. Just look at the site that I linked and tell me if its a repressive environment. Its not repressive, it is a breath of fresh air. Sure, its not repressive to you. You like that level of moderation. I don't. I don't want my post deleted because someone else thinks its not exactly on topic, or too snarky, or too sarcastic, or doesn't add to the conversation. My feeling is when I take the time to write a post and some PC obsessed mod deletes it, that is repressive to me. I understand many other sites have strict moderation. I avoid those sites, or post on them until I get banned, depending on my mood. I understand your desire for more moderation. You may want to visit The Huddle. Here are some of their rules: We do not allow the use of direct profanity on the forums. The use of profanity or attempts to circumvent the profanity filter will likely result in the entire thread being deleted and possible suspension at the discretion of either a forum moderator or administrator. So don't do it. No SHOUTING. It's just plain rude and annoying. Typing in ALL CAPS may result in your post being deleted. These are not the only forums in existence nor are they in any way a public forum for unrestricted free speech. If at any time you feel that these forums are not reflective of your views, agenda, beliefs or intellect, then feel free to find other public forums that do and post there. Do not attempt to form these forums to fit you. The Huddle reserves the right to perform any action which includes, but is not limited to: moving, closing, editing or deleting of any posting, profile, avatar and/or signature for any reason whatsoever at our sole discretion, without prior notification or explanation to the user Be careful of this one. Moderation actions are not up for debate or public scrutiny. Any topics or posts intended to question moderator actions (whether justified or not) will be closed/deleted and the member will be dealt with severely, usually leading up to suspension or removal from the forums permanently. You are missing the point. I already have a forum that I use to discuss the NFL. Its well moderated, and I've been posting on it for years without a sense that the moderators are repressive. If you only have experience with one forum though, I understand that you will feel apprehensive about changing it. I want a forum where I can discuss local sports. I listed my concerns and have shown the vulnerabilities of the site (in the post that you just quoted) which are easy to address. At the end of the day, if we can't use this site discuss local news, I literally have no where else to go.
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Post by heresjim on Oct 4, 2018 20:48:06 GMT -5
You don’t want to make things too uptight on here. People want the human side of live post that’s why they are on here. If you just want to look at boring stats from a game grab a newspaper. People will get bored and stop posting and viewing . Some times live conversation goes askew for a bit that’s the real world. Hey Jim You know back in the 40’s there was a guy that wanted to monitor how everything was written and what you were allowed to read. He wanted to control all the info people had access to. His name was Adolf Hitler. in case you didn't read the first time Yep, you got me. I'm Hitler. I almost took over the NCOAST boards and installed a fascist regime, but I've been foiled yet again...
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Post by dude on Oct 4, 2018 20:59:09 GMT -5
The NCOAST board is what you signed up for, not the other way around. It is obvious many like this site and it's to bad you do not. Let us know when you start the perfect local sports discussion site.
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Post by galion on Oct 4, 2018 21:07:05 GMT -5
Myself I like the fact you have a guy like Rambo on here stating what he thinks at least he is not afraid to log on and say something. Maybe it’s in a way that’s offensive to some comical to others but his message clear and it is not off base from the topic of male discrimination. I take it that his point of view is if we want to level the playing field and make things equal to all male, female, black, white we need to stop giving special privileges to some and lump everyone together. That is what everyone has been asking for right to be considered equally the same. On the other hand I do appreciate the other points of view also even if I disagree with some of them. Don’t mean to single you out or speak for you Rambo, and let me know if I was off. Now my point of view is that as much as everyone may want to be lumped together as equal we really are not. Men and women were not created physically equal and there is nothing we can do to change that. That is why there isn’t too many women playing in the NFL or challenging Brock Lesnar to a match. So how do we stop punishing men because they are able to play football and women for the most part are not. You say that it is ok to punish other mens sports opportunities because of one sport. I still say that is BS. And don’t tell me Wah tell your kid to get straight A’s not all kids have that ability either but most of us fall into that category and are some of the most worthwhile people in society. Why should all these universities have stopped all these mens sports over an unrealistic dream (Title IX) to say everyone is equal when they are not women cant play football and that is too bad. If they could have we probably would not be having this post on here. But isn't the purpose of college education? Why are we giving marginal students scholarships in the first place because of their athletic prowess? Let the NBA and the NFL set up their own minor league systems like the MLB does. You guys keep confusing the problem with athletics. The issue is about providing public money for financial aid in an unfair and uneven manor.
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Post by Whittaker on Oct 4, 2018 21:22:13 GMT -5
Have you been to a site that is properly moderated? Yes. This one. Its not perfect but I like the way Scarlet and the gang moderate. It's not hard to find people who understand how not to oppress a site through moderation. Just look at the site that I linked and tell me if its a repressive environment. Its not repressive, it is a breath of fresh air. Sure, its not repressive to you. You like that level of moderation. I don't. I don't want my post deleted because someone else thinks its not exactly on topic, or too snarky, or too sarcastic, or doesn't add to the conversation. My feeling is when I take the time to write a post and some PC obsessed mod deletes it, that is repressive to me. I understand many other sites have strict moderation. I avoid those sites, or post on them until I get banned, depending on my mood. I understand your desire for more moderation. You may want to visit The Huddle. Here are some of their rules: We do not allow the use of direct profanity on the forums. The use of profanity or attempts to circumvent the profanity filter will likely result in the entire thread being deleted and possible suspension at the discretion of either a forum moderator or administrator. So don't do it. No SHOUTING. It's just plain rude and annoying. Typing in ALL CAPS may result in your post being deleted. These are not the only forums in existence nor are they in any way a public forum for unrestricted free speech. If at any time you feel that these forums are not reflective of your views, agenda, beliefs or intellect, then feel free to find other public forums that do and post there. Do not attempt to form these forums to fit you. The Huddle reserves the right to perform any action which includes, but is not limited to: moving, closing, editing or deleting of any posting, profile, avatar and/or signature for any reason whatsoever at our sole discretion, without prior notification or explanation to the user Be careful of this one. Moderation actions are not up for debate or public scrutiny. Any topics or posts intended to question moderator actions (whether justified or not) will be closed/deleted and the member will be dealt with severely, usually leading up to suspension or removal from the forums permanently. You are missing the point. I already have a forum that I use to discuss the NFL. Its well moderated, and I've been posting on it for years without a sense that the moderators are repressive. If you only have experience with one forum though, I understand that you will feel apprehensive about changing it. I want a forum where I can discuss local sports. I listed my concerns and have shown the vulnerabilities of the site (in the post that you just quoted) which are easy to address. At the end of the day, if we can't use this site discuss local news, I literally have no where else to go. I think you'll like it here. Local sports is the lifeblood of this forum.
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Post by heresjim on Oct 4, 2018 21:55:50 GMT -5
The NCOAST board is what you signed up for, not the other way around. It is obvious many like this site and it's to bad you do not. Let us know when you start the perfect local sports discussion site. Well I tried. I tried being constructive and have posted my points. This is a problem I feel could be addressed. If they do something, great. If not... *shug* I'll just continue to barely post here, until something better comes along. Obviously this community likes it the way it is right now considering how little support I'm getting. If this is what the administrators want their site to be so be it. However, if the administrators at any time want to change things, I think its important to point out that there are people that support it and are willing to help.
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Post by dude on Oct 4, 2018 22:27:16 GMT -5
Jim, I’m serious, cut your own path and start the site you want and maybe you are not the only one who has interest in the discussion site you are looking for.
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Post by galion on Oct 4, 2018 23:04:55 GMT -5
The NCOAST board is what you signed up for, not the other way around. It is obvious many like this site and it's to bad you do not. Let us know when you start the perfect local sports discussion site. Well I tried. I tried being constructive and have posted my points. This is a problem I feel could be addressed. If they do something, great. If not... *shug* I'll just continue to barely post here, until something better comes along. Obviously this community likes it the way it is right now considering how little support I'm getting. If this is what the administrators want their site to be so be it. However, if the administrators at any time want to change things, I think its important to point out that there are people that support it and are willing to help. Freedom of speech is given to everyone, not just the people we agree with. Do I find some of these posts maddening? Certainly, but there are some on here(not sure how many really with all of the posters with multiple usernames) who find mine equally as ridiculous. At the end of the day, it's just a message board. It's primary function is local sports, which I believe it does pretty well. When we get political is when it gets messy, but that's what political discourse has turned into everywhere. Bottom line is you're not getting on a message with the intent to change minds, it's just not going to happen. However, it is cathartic to occasionally respond to posts that you disagree with.
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Post by homewrecker on Oct 5, 2018 6:16:37 GMT -5
Hey Jim Looked at the football forum site you posted looks like a good site for grandma. I doubt the people running this site would appreciate you promoting another site on here to draw people away.
How do you want people to post like this? My team is better than your team. Oops maybe I shouldn’t say that. You have a team I have a team maybe mine can beat yours. Oops again that is a bit aggressive. Ok I will post this. You have a team I have a team we both have teams, Hurray !
Or should we post more like cheerleaders ? Here’s a cheer for ya
give me a L give me a A give me a M give me a E whats that spell LAME
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Post by homewrecker on Oct 5, 2018 6:36:24 GMT -5
Just lighten up, life is stressful enough don't take everything so serious all the time. You are on a forum that for the most part is sports. Did you ever play sports? Half the fun of being part of a team is the jokes and jabs you take at your follow teammates in fun. And yes you have to take some of those jabs in return but that is some of what builds bonding relationships on a team. Not just the workouts coach makes you do. Its just a community of people on here posting what pops in their head. Have more fun with it.
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Post by homewrecker on Oct 5, 2018 6:50:40 GMT -5
in case you didn't read the first time Yep, you got me. I'm Hitler. I almost took over the NCOAST boards and installed a fascist regime, but I've been foiled yet again... Now this is one of your best post.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 5, 2018 19:13:17 GMT -5
The NCOAST board is what you signed up for, not the other way around. It is obvious many like this site and it's to bad you do not. Let us know when you start the perfect local sports discussion site. Well I tried. I tried being constructive and have posted my points. This is a problem I feel could be addressed. If they do something, great. If not... *shug* I'll just continue to barely post here, until something better comes along. Obviously this community likes it the way it is right now considering how little support I'm getting. If this is what the administrators want their site to be so be it. However, if the administrators at any time want to change things, I think its important to point out that there are people that support it and are willing to help. You did more than try. You showed logic and intellect. I'm on your side, some will say that's not to your benefit. I don't like the immature games being played either, there is abject stupidity being shown. They think it's cool to pretend stupidity. Their generation will follow the current Generation Z. Who knows, maybe they'll be called Generation S. I know and accept what is allowed on here, so I can read and talk about local sports. Recently I was put down by Mods for reporting a post that threatened violence by a member of Generation S, toward another poster on here. I DID NOT ask that anything be done to the person who threatened violence. I just clicked on the ICON to report the post. Can the Mods be 100% certain that the threat of violence was a joke? They are serious about a few things. It would've be easy to PM that individual and say, "Hey, have fun, but do it without threatening violence." I will give credit to this site for taking appropriate action a few years ago. An individual on here called me names, even suggest I molested young boys. I didn't report him, I plead the ignorance of his ways. I have a very bright, attractive daughter who has an important job with a highly thought of software company. This individual then found a picture of my daughter on her company's website, posted it on here and called her an ugly whore. A line MUST be drawn somewhere. I reported it, and he was banned for a month. After the month he came back and called the Mods every nasty name in the book. He disappeared for good after that, as far as we know. DO NOT let those of Generation S or those who facilitate their games spoil your fun.
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Post by homewrecker on Oct 5, 2018 20:23:40 GMT -5
Willard, Sorry to here about that story with you and your daughter I do not condone any such action like that or the threatening of violence that is not funny at all and unacceptable.
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Post by Rambo McClain on Oct 9, 2018 12:29:29 GMT -5
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