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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 27, 2017 13:38:43 GMT -5
Like Stanley Jackson said if you took the names off the jersey's and just watched the QB's play then it's as obvious as night and day that Dwayne Haskins is the best QB on Ohio State's roster. It appears Stanley has never seen an Ohio State practice OR you're lying about what Stanley said. There are no names on the back of Ohio State's practice jerseys.
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Post by sportsjock on Aug 27, 2017 14:21:44 GMT -5
Like Stanley Jackson said if you took the names off the jersey's and just watched the QB's play then it's as obvious as night and day that Dwayne Haskins is the best QB on Ohio State's roster. Amazing how a man of such wisdom, isn't coaching somewhere, instead of blowing wind at a microphone. A man who knows much more than the entire Ohio State coaching staff, must be in great demand. Urban, hope you're catching all this wisdom from Stanley. You need to fire Ryan Day & Kevin Wilson and get Stanley Jackson on board ASAP!
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Post by DrTorch on Aug 27, 2017 16:52:10 GMT -5
Like Stanley Jackson said if you took the names off the jersey's and just watched the QB's play then it's as obvious as night and day that Dwayne Haskins is the best QB on Ohio State's roster. It appears Stanley has never seen an Ohio State practice OR you're lying about what Stanley said. There are no names on the back of Ohio State's practice jerseys. i think he was speaking in the metaphorical sense i think sometimes you guys can't grasp symbolism?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 7:04:53 GMT -5
Torch, I think it is more than sometimes.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 28, 2017 17:09:09 GMT -5
Torch, I think it is more than sometimes. More often untruths come from you. Just another one.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 28, 2017 17:12:57 GMT -5
It appears Stanley has never seen an Ohio State practice OR you're lying about what Stanley said. There are no names on the back of Ohio State's practice jerseys. i think he was speaking in the metaphorical sense i think sometimes you guys can't grasp symbolism? A reasonable person would have said take "the numbers" off the jerseys. Most of the knowledgeable know what number the QBs DO have on their jerseys.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 28, 2017 17:25:01 GMT -5
Like Stanley Jackson said if you took the names off the jersey's and just watched the QB's play then it's as obvious as night and day that Dwayne Haskins is the best QB on Ohio State's roster. Amazing how a man of such wisdom, isn't coaching somewhere, instead of blowing wind at a microphone. A man who knows much more than the entire Ohio State coaching staff, must be in great demand. Urban, hope you're catching all this wisdom from Stanley. You need to fire Ryan Day & Kevin Wilson and get Stanley Jackson on board ASAP! Stanley is too doltish to be a coach and not just because he still thinks he's a better QB than Joe Germaine. He thinks JUST by watching players in a FEW practices he KNOWS who's best. What about the other 90% of practices that he didn't see? What about what happens in the QB room with their position coach? Which he NEVER sees. What about what happens in the the wight room? Which he NEVER sees. What about what happens in the classroom? Which he NEVER sees. What about what happens in leadership classes? Which Stanley never sees. Stanley picked the wrong guy. Head coach, Offensive Coordinator and QB coach had him as 3rd string, being pushed by a 5-10 true freshman.
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Post by DrTorch on Aug 28, 2017 18:22:00 GMT -5
You are trying too hard. For whatever reason there is nothing, apparently, that JT can do wrong. He must have super dirt on Urban or something. Bill Murray didn't get as many chances in Groundhog's Day.
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Post by DrTorch on Aug 28, 2017 18:26:05 GMT -5
Amazing how a man of such wisdom, isn't coaching somewhere, instead of blowing wind at a microphone. A man who knows much more than the entire Ohio State coaching staff, must be in great demand. Urban, hope you're catching all this wisdom from Stanley. You need to fire Ryan Day & Kevin Wilson and get Stanley Jackson on board ASAP! Stanley is too doltish to be a coach and not just because he still thinks he's a better QB than Joe Germaine. He thinks JUST by watching players in a FEW practices he KNOWS who's best. What about the other 90% of practices that he didn't see? What about what happens in the QB room with their position coach? Which he NEVER sees. What about what happens in the the wight room? Which he NEVER sees. What about what happens in the classroom? Which he NEVER sees. What about what happens in leadership classes? Which Stanley never sees. Stanley picked the wrong guy. Head coach, Offensive Coordinator and QB coach had him as 3rd string, being pushed by a 5-10 true freshman. He said if you watched them play Fillmore. Overreact much? You know JT sucks and ur over zealous defense over a casual comment betrays you. Tff.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 28, 2017 21:58:21 GMT -5
I know exactly what he said torch. He saw them "play" in practice a minuscule amount. You know that there is MUCH MUCH more to determining who is best at anything, than seeing a very few instances in one area of importance. When there are multiple other areas that go into the equation. Don't be foolish, it doesn't matter what any of us nobodies think. It only matters what one of the 2 best head coaches in the country thinks. What a highly thought of O-coordinator thinks. And what a bright, young, yet experienced QB coach thinks. As of last week they all thought Burrow "sucked" more than JT and Haskins "sucked" more than Burrow. Overreact much?? Go ahead and hate, zealots must hate.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 28, 2017 22:19:50 GMT -5
You are trying too hard. For whatever reason there is nothing, apparently, that JT can do wrong. He must have super dirt on Urban or something. Bill Murray didn't get as many chances in Groundhog's Day. Don't be silly, every human being on the face of the earth does "wrong". Some do more wrong than others. Urban, Wilson and Day, the ONLY ones who matter in this instance. ALL think that Martel does more wrong than Haskins, Burrow and JT. Haskins does more wrong than Burrow and JT. And Burrow does more wrong than JT. Why else would they have Martel 4th string, Haskins 3rd string, Burrow 2nd string and JT the starter??? Are they all stupid? Do they all want to lose? PLEASE explain?? Logic only. You are clueless. This has nothing to do with JT being "my boy". The ONLY thing this has do with anything is that I am 100% certain that Urban, Wilson and Day know an unlimited amount more about football and who should be the starter than you and I or anyone else in the country. I am not saying that their opinions might not change at some point in time. AND if they do, I am still with them 100%. Comprendes Pedro?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 23:02:16 GMT -5
Stanley is too doltish to be a coach and not just because he still thinks he's a better QB than Joe Germaine. He thinks JUST by watching players in a FEW practices he KNOWS who's best. What about the other 90% of practices that he didn't see? What about what happens in the QB room with their position coach? Which he NEVER sees. What about what happens in the the wight room? Which he NEVER sees. What about what happens in the classroom? Which he NEVER sees. What about what happens in leadership classes? Which Stanley never sees. Stanley picked the wrong guy. Head coach, Offensive Coordinator and QB coach had him as 3rd string, being pushed by a 5-10 true freshman. He said if you watched them play Fillmore. Overreact much? You know JT sucks and ur over zealous defense over a casual comment betrays you. Tff. Need you really ask.
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Post by DrTorch on Aug 29, 2017 7:20:50 GMT -5
I know exactly what he said torch. He saw them "play" in practice a minuscule amount. You know that there is MUCH MUCH more to determining who is best at anything, than seeing a very few instances in one area of importance. When there are multiple other areas that go into the equation. Don't be foolish, it doesn't matter what any of us nobodies think. It only matters what one of the 2 best head coaches in the country thinks. What a highly thought of O-coordinator thinks. And what a bright, young, yet experienced QB coach thinks. As of last week they all thought Burrow "sucked" more than JT and Haskins "sucked" more than Burrow. Overreact much?? Go ahead and hate, zealots must hate. ok but he didn't say Haskins should be starting, he didn't say Haskins was sliced bread, he made a casual off the cuff comment and it gets ur panties in a tizzie because u know and i know and everyone knows, Barrett sucks, the sooner he graduates the better
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Post by DrTorch on Aug 29, 2017 7:22:04 GMT -5
2 of Urban's National Titles were won with someone else's QB recruit
i comprende that mas fina, mi amigo
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Post by sportsjock on Aug 29, 2017 7:36:49 GMT -5
Despite the unqualified criticism by a few Barrett haters on here, there is zero Ohio State QB controversy, and zero question marks as to who our starting QB is and will be this season.
These same people refuse to recognize the multiple hindrance factors last years QB's faced. Yes, I said quarterbacks. Anyone taking snaps last year would have great difficulty under these conditions.
Fortunately, J.T. had good scrambling abilities to minimalize the losses from so many plays that blew up, due to break downs from the multiple shortcomings surrounding him, both on the field and from those holding clipboards on the sidelines.
An offensive line that was a virtual train wreck at times, poor play calling from questionable offensive strategy and planning, less than good coaching from the QB coach and OC and a fleet of under-performing receivers. Not a good environment for any quarterback, no matter how good he may be. Urban has taken great measures in rectifying these glaring inadequacies. The results of those changes, should be dramatically apparent when the offense takes the field.
Players have openly expressed a whole new attitude and confidence in what they are trying to accomplish and most everyone has said the entire offense now has an attitude that was sadly missing last year.
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Post by DrTorch on Aug 29, 2017 10:25:19 GMT -5
yeah poor guy, what a terrible team he had surrounding him, they were only good enough to get to the Playoffs
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Post by sportsjock on Aug 29, 2017 11:55:34 GMT -5
yeah poor guy, what a terrible team he had surrounding him, they were only good enough to get to the Playoffs If you choose to ignore the facts as they were last season and pile the negativity on J.T., that's your prerogative. They were good enough to qualify for the playoffs and good enough to get spanked 31-0 as well. Urban vowed, this will never happen again, under his leadership. I underscored the problem areas for which Urban made addresses to in the off season. The sad joke was Tim Beck wanting J.T. to stand in behind that precarious OL and become a pocket passer....lol Yah right!
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Post by DrTorch on Aug 29, 2017 12:18:11 GMT -5
i don't understand...JT was standing behind the line Urban recruited him
what's the problem?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 13:32:12 GMT -5
Despite the unqualified criticism by a few Barrett haters on here, there is zero Ohio State QB controversy, and zero question marks as to who our starting QB is and will be this season. . To be very clear, just because some on here do not place this QB on a throne does not make someone a hater. I wish him the best this season and hope he is in the Heisman hunt come December. As a college football fan I can say I have seen better QBs play the game with less success as well as weaker ones with more success. Also, it has been pointed out on this thread sometimes the system can benefit a player tremendously. Take that and add the longevity due to other's injuries and or their future plans and you can make a successful player.
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Post by DrTorch on Aug 29, 2017 14:04:35 GMT -5
don't hate, graduate
i root my *** off for Barrett, hope he has a Heisman-type year and wins it all
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 29, 2017 14:31:43 GMT -5
He said if you watched them play Fillmore. Overreact much? You know JT sucks and ur over zealous defense over a casual comment betrays you. Tff. Need you really ask. You don't know what the H, you're talking about. You choose not to read half of the posts.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 29, 2017 14:48:00 GMT -5
I know exactly what he said torch. He saw them "play" in practice a minuscule amount. You know that there is MUCH MUCH more to determining who is best at anything, than seeing a very few instances in one area of importance. When there are multiple other areas that go into the equation. Don't be foolish, it doesn't matter what any of us nobodies think. It only matters what one of the 2 best head coaches in the country thinks. What a highly thought of O-coordinator thinks. And what a bright, young, yet experienced QB coach thinks. As of last week they all thought Burrow "sucked" more than JT and Haskins "sucked" more than Burrow. Overreact much?? Go ahead and hate, zealots must hate. ok but he didn't say Haskins should be starting, he didn't say Haskins was sliced bread, he made a casual off the cuff comment and it gets ur panties in a tizzie because u know and i know and everyone knows, Barrett sucks, the sooner he graduates the better You'rr not reading all of the posts again, OR your memory is lacking. I could care less what Stanley says, he still thinks he's better than Germaine. Rambo brought it up, made a big deal about, always looking for a way to prove he's twice as smart as Urban, Wilson and Day combined. Barrett might "suck", but the issue is that the head coach, the O-coordinator and the QB coach ALL believe the other 3 QBs on the roster "suck" more. Just pointing out that they know 1000 times more Rambo, although he continues to bloviate. Keep your hands out of my jeans. You've never seen a tizzie. When someone makes an asinine statement I will always point out the error of their ways.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 29, 2017 14:54:46 GMT -5
yeah poor guy, what a terrible team he had surrounding him, they were only good enough to get to the Playoffs They had the youngest team in the country, they were not supposed to beat Oklahoma or Michigan. Urban and his staff coached then up to get there. SURELY your aren't saying that they were a Championship caliber team?? LULZ. They were not close to the caliber of team that Clemson or Bama were.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 29, 2017 15:08:28 GMT -5
i don't understand...JT was standing behind the line Urban recruited him what's the problem? I don't understand why you don't comprehend. That line was 100% completely new from the previous year. Even had a Freshman starter, the last time that was the case at Ohio State was 20 years ago. The O-line is THE most difficult unit on a football team to play cohesively when inexperienced, young and have not played together. I know you're well aware of those truisms. The issue is, they conveniently slip your mind.
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Post by DrTorch on Aug 29, 2017 17:17:10 GMT -5
SINCE WHEN IS OHIO STATE NOT SUPPOSED TO BEAT MICHIGAN??!?!?!
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Post by sportsjock on Aug 29, 2017 17:38:46 GMT -5
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Post by sportsjock on Aug 29, 2017 17:45:15 GMT -5
Despite the unqualified criticism by a few Barrett haters on here, there is zero Ohio State QB controversy, and zero question marks as to who our starting QB is and will be this season. . To be very clear, just because some on here do not place this QB on a throne does not make someone a hater. I wish him the best this season and hope he is in the Heisman hunt come December. As a college football fan I can say I have seen better QBs play the game with less success as well as weaker ones with more success. Also, it has been pointed out on this thread sometimes the system can benefit a player tremendously. Take that and add the longevity due to other's injuries and or their future plans and you can make a successful player. I appreciate your response. No problem with skeptics and in your case, you present a great deal of objectivity. However, there are some who have expressed utter contempt for J.T. Barrett, which leaves me scratching my head. I am excited for J.T. this year, as he will be playing without the glaring deficiencies that surrounded him in 2016.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 29, 2017 20:15:57 GMT -5
SINCE WHEN IS OHIO STATE NOT SUPPOSED TO BEAT MICHIGAN??!?!?! Preseason 2016 The average of SI, AP and Coaches Polls had U of M 6th and OSU 7th. Weeks 8 through 11 U of M was #3, #2, #2, #2, until JH and his QB managed to lose their last 3 games of the season.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 21:43:17 GMT -5
SINCE WHEN IS OHIO STATE NOT SUPPOSED TO BEAT MICHIGAN??!?!?! Who or what would make you ask such a stupid question. They are always supposed to beat them.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 30, 2017 20:19:22 GMT -5
Except when Bruce and Cooper were head coach.
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