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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2018 19:41:23 GMT -5
Huron might even wanna schedule Fremont Ross then, as a non conf. game.
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Post by Nelson on Oct 11, 2018 5:46:59 GMT -5
If I am not mistaken, and a bit of irony, Ross was instrumental getting the TRAC off the ground Instrumental? What are they stupid?Toledo central catholic has over 120 some kids and 40 some sr's thiis years roster,ross has 60! According to fremonts AD ( new one) said had no choice.Either trac or independent. There
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Post by Nelson on Oct 11, 2018 5:56:12 GMT -5
Maplecity
Would Norwalk vote fremont in or just Sandusky? Curious Thanks
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Post by maplecityjake on Oct 11, 2018 9:22:25 GMT -5
If I am not mistaken, and a bit of irony, Ross was instrumental getting the TRAC off the ground Instrumental? What are they stupid?Toledo central catholic has over 120 some kids and 40 some sr's thiis years roster,ross has 60! According to fremonts AD ( new one) said had no choice.Either trac or independent. There Keep in mind, a few things have changed since this conference's formation; for one, Ross regressed
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Post by maplecityjake on Oct 11, 2018 9:24:03 GMT -5
Maplecity Would Norwalk vote fremont in or just Sandusky? Curious Thanks Imho, neither/nor
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Post by footballfan2016 on Oct 11, 2018 10:08:10 GMT -5
From what I'm aware of, Clyde is the single driving force keeping Fremont Ross out of the SBC.
I know Clyde had communicated with people from Oak Harbor and Bellevue to sway the vote as well. Clyde has also made it clear to Ross that they don't want to join up. Long history-- lots of factors, size IS one, but not only factor.
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Post by Birdman on Oct 11, 2018 14:01:24 GMT -5
Why not Amherst...
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Post by sbc95 on Oct 12, 2018 23:16:33 GMT -5
Could be wrong but i am pretty sure Fremont has 300-400 more students than any of the other schools listed. Why does Clyde play 3 div 2 teams and 1 division 1 then ...
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Post by sbc95 on Oct 13, 2018 11:11:54 GMT -5
I tired of hearing Fremont has more boys ... Bellevue..Clyde .. Tiffin .. Play div 1 and 2 teams every year .. It’s time to let Fremont in ..
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Post by maplecityjake on Oct 13, 2018 12:52:52 GMT -5
Don't be shy; tell us how you really feel about Ross should be in the SBC
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Post by richrod on Oct 13, 2018 18:23:20 GMT -5
I tired of hearing Fremont has more boys ... Bellevue..Clyde .. Tiffin .. Play div 1 and 2 teams every year .. It’s time to let Fremont in .. i'm pretty sure Bellevue and Clyde's total enrollment is trending downward. its easy to see why they don't want Fremont because they will be stuck in the Lake with them as their enrollment numbers decline.
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Post by Hummingbird on Oct 14, 2018 9:48:08 GMT -5
maybe its time for Ross to water down their schedule.
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Post by chs71 on Oct 14, 2018 10:15:01 GMT -5
Schools should be knocking the door down trying to get in. Who? Look at a map and enrollment numbers. Who would be better off leaving the league they are in and joining the SBC?
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Post by Nelson on Oct 18, 2018 20:17:18 GMT -5
As a Sandusky guy I would love Fremont to be in sbc.I honestly think sometime in future not now,but down road (years)they could get invite.I think now the powers that be don't want no part.I get it.They bring fans.They're disadvantaged in Trac from jump, Findlay has 41,000 people and growing ,Fremont has 13,000 and steadily declining.lima has around 30 thousand give or take, Sandusky has more than fremont does.13,000 and steady down.Wa Washington local ( whitmer), has huge numbers .Central Catholic has a 120 some kids too 3 grades . Just thought
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Post by Nelson on Oct 18, 2018 21:07:50 GMT -5
Sorry but Fremont has 16,100, smallest in trac, and declining steady, lima has 37,000 people while Findlay has 41,000 population and growing , while SBC lake schools city population is Sandusky 24,800 and declining steady,while Norwalk has 16,800 some and rising steady,than tiffin has low 17,000's while Bellevue has 7,996 and Clyde has 6000.So from population standpoint Fremont would rank in middle in 4 th,while tiffin ,norwalk,and Sandusky bigger .Something to think about !
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Post by Nelson on Oct 18, 2018 21:08:13 GMT -5
Just observations
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Post by Nelson on Oct 19, 2018 4:42:06 GMT -5
We say fremont has 430 some boys,what not but enrollment making fremont a small div.2 school .But with declining population trending down plus st.joe taking kids will begin to stress fremont in coming years and I give Fremont 5-10 years they'll be div.3.Tiffin has a thousand more people than fremont and 2 schools pulling kids .Sandusky has 24,000 people but 2-3 teams proper pulling.Norwalk has 2 teams..I foresee fremont to struggle mightily in coming years with depth and competition..
Like us there a team where you lose 1 starter you stuck where findlay whitmer clay Catholics can overcome.Time will tell.
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Post by maplecityjake on Oct 19, 2018 6:49:31 GMT -5
I wonder how Napoleon did it in the GBC?? ;p. Speaking of which, they got in the NLL because they pitched their positives, and not woe-is-me like Clay did. SBC doesn't need Ross, especially one that is crying their eyes out.
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Post by Hummingbird on Oct 19, 2018 7:03:08 GMT -5
We say fremont has 430 some boys,what not but enrollment making fremont a small div.2 school .But with declining population trending down plus st.joe taking kids will begin to stress fremont in coming years and I give Fremont 5-10 years they'll be div.3.Tiffin has a thousand more people than fremont and 2 schools pulling kids .Sandusky has 24,000 people but 2-3 teams proper pulling.Norwalk has 2 teams..I foresee fremont to struggle mightily in coming years with depth and competition.. Like us there a team where you lose 1 starter you stuck where findlay whitmer clay Catholics can overcome.Time will tell. come on man. admit it you are not from sandusky but fremont or so you say. give me a break. jeeezzzz
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Post by crimsonblooded on Oct 19, 2018 7:03:31 GMT -5
As I read through this topic here and from the creation of the league. I hear two inconsistent points.
1) No Fremont 2) Bay needs to crossover with Lake
If Lake wants crossover with Bay then play Fremont or drop it. With the exception of Sandusky the Lake schools like Clyde want to be big fish in small pond again. They won't play Fremont but have no problem playing the Polar Bears...... Add Fremont or quit crying Lake. It is what it is. Next move for SBC is having mega league for all sports but football and leaving them to find football only conference that works for the individual school.
When it comes to Ross, let them join or SHhhhhh.......
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Oct 19, 2018 8:00:46 GMT -5
while SBC lake schools city population is Sandusky 24,800 and declining steady,while Norwalk has 16,800 some and rising steady,than tiffin has low 17,000's while Bellevue has 7,996 and Clyde has 6000.So from population standpoint Fremont would rank in middle in 4 th,while tiffin ,norwalk,and Sandusky bigger .Something to think about ! City populations don't mean much though, you have to go by the school district population to make this type of comparison more accurate. These numbers are from the 2010 census: SD pop - School (City pop) 29,725 - Fremont (16,734) 25,770 - Sandusky (25,793) 22,434 - Tiffin (17,963) 19,063 - Norwalk (17,012) 13,351 - Bellevue (8,202) 13,717 - Perkins (0) 12,871 - Clyde (6,325)
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Post by kingmartinez on Oct 19, 2018 8:18:15 GMT -5
Something will give in the next few years. Clyde is now looking for weeks 4 AND 5 next year after PC dropped them. PC is playing Bellevue now week 1 so that's nothing directed at PC. They understand the bigger picture. It's just principle that most of these these Lake schools are forced to travel the globe to pick up games weeks 4 and 5 when the Bay won't crossover. Btw, Fremont and TC are playing next year. And they should. Could be nice match up. Being in a league with them makes no sense for the majority of the Lake schools.
The issue is not about weeks 1-3. It's about weeks 4 and 5. Norwalk and TC are both trending upwards so them getting these Bay games will end soon. The Bay likes to pick the teams they feel are down. Playing Perkins and TC after 1-9 and 0-10 isn't crossing over. Teams like Edison and Oak Harbor will need step up or they may be snake-bitten by the ramifications of this issue persisting. I'm hopeful most of the Bay schools can see the bigger picture and commit to a week 4 and 5 crossover. Unfortunately, the City League's availability doesn't help expedite these discussions.
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Post by clydesbcfan on Oct 19, 2018 8:30:51 GMT -5
Filled both weeks 4 and 5 this week.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Oct 19, 2018 8:43:07 GMT -5
If Lake wants crossover with Bay then play Fremont or drop it. This makes absolutely zero mathematical sense currently: Weeks 4 and 5 - all 12 Lake and Bay schools looking for games Week 6 thru 10 - all 12 Lake and Bay schools playing league games Let's add Fremont and also do crossovers! Week 4 - 6 of 7 Lake schools have league games, exactly 1 crossover game can take place, the other 5 Bay schools are looking for games Week 5 - 6 of 7 Lake schools have league games, exactly 1 crossover game can take place, the other 5 Bay schools are looking for games Week 6 - 6 of 7 Lake schools have league games, all 6 Bay Schools have league games, 1 Lake school is looking for a game Week 7 - 6 of 7 Lake schools have league games, all 6 Bay Schools have league games, 1 Lake school is looking for a game Week 8 - 6 of 7 Lake schools have league games, all 6 Bay Schools have league games, 1 Lake school is looking for a game Week 9 - 6 of 7 Lake schools have league games, all 6 Bay Schools have league games, 1 Lake school is looking for a game Week 10 - 6 of 7 Lake schools have league games, all 6 Bay Schools have league games, 1 Lake school is looking for a game
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Post by crimsonblooded on Oct 19, 2018 9:08:49 GMT -5
If Lake wants crossover with Bay then play Fremont or drop it. This makes absolutely zero mathematical sense currently: Weeks 4 and 5 - all 12 Lake and Bay schools looking for games Week 6 thru 10 - all 12 Lake and Bay schools playing league games Let's add Fremont and also do crossovers! Week 4 - 6 of 7 Lake schools have league games, exactly 1 crossover game can take place, the other 5 Bay schools are looking for games Week 5 - 6 of 7 Lake schools have league games, exactly 1 crossover game can take place, the other 5 Bay schools are looking for games Week 6 - 6 of 7 Lake schools have league games, all 6 Bay Schools have league games, 1 Lake school is looking for a game Week 7 - 6 of 7 Lake schools have league games, all 6 Bay Schools have league games, 1 Lake school is looking for a game Week 8 - 6 of 7 Lake schools have league games, all 6 Bay Schools have league games, 1 Lake school is looking for a game Week 9 - 6 of 7 Lake schools have league games, all 6 Bay Schools have league games, 1 Lake school is looking for a game Week 10 - 6 of 7 Lake schools have league games, all 6 Bay Schools have league games, 1 Lake school is looking for a game I didn't say play Fremont and also do crossovers. I said if your not willing to play Fremont then don't expect crossover games. It is essentially the same thing. Willard will be in the Bay next year where they will play Port Clinton. The difference in enrollment between the two schools in enrollment percentage wise is pretty close to the difference in percentage of Clyde and Fremont Ross. If the Lake doesn't want to add Fremont then don't expect Bay to fix your problems. As far as Bellevue, they should be the 1st team in the Bay where they could play all the cross over with the Lake as their A.D. chooses or not.
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Post by maplecityjake on Oct 19, 2018 9:23:16 GMT -5
The more I think of it the more I like an earlier proposal; Ashland, Lex, Madison, and Senior
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Post by crimsonblooded on Oct 19, 2018 9:36:53 GMT -5
The more I think of it the more I like an earlier proposal; Ashland, Lex, Madison, and Senior Grow the League with bigger schools. Create leagues/divisions for football only. (Not travelling on a weeknight) Then in other sports and middle school create other leagues/divisions based on location. Individual sports like wrestling, Track, C.C., swimming and Tennis and so on could have one mega conference if desired.
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Post by dolittle on Oct 19, 2018 9:38:09 GMT -5
the offer for those schools was there already.
problem is PC is the only one that will play Bellevue (week 1 2019).
Huron, edison, Oak Harbor and Vermilion wont touch Bellevue with a 10 foot pole. And whats worse, if they do its weeks 1-3 and not 4 and 5.
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Post by maplecityjake on Oct 19, 2018 9:46:29 GMT -5
What happened between Bellevue and Huron? Both started playing each other again for a few years, and now, Huron won't touch them with a 10 ft pole? What gives?
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Post by kingmartinez on Oct 19, 2018 10:05:43 GMT -5
Filled both weeks 4 and 5 this week. Good to hear but who are the schools? I see Thurgood Marshall and Belmont on Arbiter - both Dayton Public Schools. Ridiculous IMO that the Fliers have to play those two. No gate if it's home and travel is uncalled for. I just can't understand why Huron is traveling to Roger Bacon next year when schools in similar size and in the same conference would play them. It's not like Huron can't compete. It's unnecessary strain on the kids and parents for even needing to make travel arrangements for an 8-hour round trip getaway. These are exactly the examples why I believe something will have to give in the next few years. It's not sustainable.
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