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Post by Buckeye2b on Oct 31, 2018 15:31:18 GMT -5
I found this nifty Twitter site, that compares the old BCS selection for the two teams most qualified to play each other for a national championship versus the four team selection by “the committee.” Oddly enough, the selected teams and their location in the rosters are very similar. However, I have always thought the BCS selection may be the correct way to do this provided you had an eight team playoff process, That would thereby allow non-power five teams to qualify. Note that UCF is sitting at nine in the BCS rankings, just behind OSU. There will be other losses by teams in the top eight, that would allow UCF too get in an eight team playoff although they might have to play a top ranked Alabama in the first round. However, if they could beat them head to head, would that not mean they should be in the playoffs as I propose it?? Food for thought. Couldn’t wait to get the ball rolling on this again... LOL!!! pbs.twimg.com/media/DqyuLUaWsAAGuE4.jpg |
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Post by fbfan on Nov 1, 2018 6:32:20 GMT -5
I'm for any type of system that adds weight to the results on the field vs. the opinion of some committee. In an eight team playoff, giving the champions of the power 5 conferences an automatic bid, would eliminate roughly half of the FBS schools from having any complaint of not getting to the playoffs. Simply win your conference. The other 3 could be selected by the "BCS", Committee, or some other way. In any case, there would be less chance of leaving some one out that has earned a legitimate shot at the title on the field.
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Post by Buckeye2b on Nov 14, 2018 1:47:05 GMT -5
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Post by 1percenter on Nov 14, 2018 12:34:28 GMT -5
^^^ Nice.
And if we do what I'd like to see (5 Conf Champs, top Group of 5 Champ, 2 at-large that are the 2 highest rated teams left. 1st round home field advantage, and only Conf Champs can get home field) then currently the playoff would look like this
#8 Central Florida (Group of 5) @ #1 Alabama (SEC)
#7 Washington State (Pac 12) @ #2 Clemson (ACC)
#6 Georgia (at-large) @ #3 Michigan (Big Ten)
#5 Notre Dame (at-large) @ #4 Oklahoma (Big XII)
The at-large teams would rank #3 and #5, so the #12 team (Florida) wouldn't have an argument like Willard Fillmore thinks will happen.
Hey Notre Dame, if you want a home playoff game join a Conference. I'm willing to negotiate on this, but Notre Dame doesn't have to play that 13th game that a Conf Champ has to play. That game can cost a team a playoff trip (ask Wisconsin last year who went in at 12-0 and came out 12-1)
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Post by Buckeye2b on Nov 17, 2018 14:32:00 GMT -5
I’m not a fan of Power 5 champs with an auto bid, however us would make it more palatable to those conferences
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Nov 18, 2018 9:43:46 GMT -5
I’m not a fan of Power 5 champs with an auto bid, however us would make it more palatable to those conferences Why not? Auto bids to the power 5 would, for the first time in the history of college football, give a large number of teams an actual way to 100% control their own destiny for the national championship. |
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Post by fbfan on Nov 18, 2018 10:54:13 GMT -5
^^Being able to do that is the most compelling reason for an 8 team playoff. How many times in the past has the NC come from a NON power five conference? Virtually every qualified team would have their chance to control their own destiny. In the rare instance of a non power five even being in the conversation (such as last year), the committee could provide that chance via the other three spots.
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Post by 1percenter on Nov 21, 2018 9:50:56 GMT -5
The ESPN Committee group didn't ask a question I had from last nights release.
Committee Poll
#25 6-4 Iowa State
Not in the Top 25 7-4 Iowa
Iowa 7-4 beat 6-4 Iowa State head to head so why is Iowa State ranked ahead of Iowa when Iowa has a better record. ESPN didn't ask the question, they were too busy talking about how crappy 10-1 Ohio State is, and their graphics department was too busy listing OSU at 9-1 instead of 10-1. Yeah, this isn't the greatest Ohio State team, but they are 10-1, not 8-4. ESPN acts like they are 6-5.
Efficiency Ratings for the Committee Top 10
Ohio State
#8 Offense
#46 Defense
#10 Special Teams
Clemson
#6 Offense
#1 Defense
#118 Special Teams
Alabama
#1 Offense
#2 Defense
#78 Special Teams
Michigan
#12 Offense
#4 Defense
#32 Special Teams
Notre Dame
#26 Offense
#11 Defense
#63 Special Teams
Oklahoma
#2 Offense
#95 Defense
#28 Special Teams
Washington State
#4 Offense
#59 Defense
#76 Special Teams
LSU
#38 Offense
#7 Defense
#8 Special Teams
Central Florida
#7 Offense
#52 Defense
#29 Special Teams
Georgia
#3 Offense
#6 Defense
#27 Special Teams
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 21, 2018 13:42:31 GMT -5
I'm for any type of system that adds weight to the results on the field vs. the opinion of some committee. In an eight team playoff, giving the champions of the power 5 conferences an automatic bid, would eliminate roughly half of the FBS schools from having any complaint of not getting to the playoffs. Simply win your conference. The other 3 could be selected by the "BCS", Committee, or some other way. In any case, there would be less chance of leaving some one out that has earned a legitimate shot at the title on the field. The SEC would always argue they should have 3 teams make an 8 team field. Now they think they should get 2 of 4. As they perceive the SEC is by far the most difficult of the Power Five. |
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Post by fbfan on Nov 21, 2018 16:57:24 GMT -5
I'm for any type of system that adds weight to the results on the field vs. the opinion of some committee. In an eight team playoff, giving the champions of the power 5 conferences an automatic bid, would eliminate roughly half of the FBS schools from having any complaint of not getting to the playoffs. Simply win your conference. The other 3 could be selected by the "BCS", Committee, or some other way. In any case, there would be less chance of leaving some one out that has earned a legitimate shot at the title on the field. The SEC would always argue they should have 3 teams make an 8 team field. Now they think they should get 2 of 4. As they perceive the SEC is by far the most difficult of the Power Five. Let them argue. As you say, they argue now. That is not a valid argument against an 8 team field. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 21, 2018 20:05:27 GMT -5
Not an argument against an 8 team field, just pointing out a fact.
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Post by Rambo McClain on Nov 25, 2018 9:07:16 GMT -5
ESPN Playoff Predictor
Chance of making the playoff
99%+ Notre Dame
96% Clemson
82% Alabama
48% Ohio State
39% Georgia
33% Oklahoma
2% Michigan
everyone else less than 1 %
I think the Committee puts Oklahoma ahead of Ohio State no matter what unless Oklahoma loses to Texas
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Post by Rambo McClain on Nov 25, 2018 9:13:08 GMT -5
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Post by Rambo McClain on Nov 25, 2018 9:16:23 GMT -5
This is interesting. Chance to make the playoff before the season started.
#1 67% Clemson
#2 47% Alabama
#3 46% Georgia
#4 42% Notre Dame
#5 41% Washington - currently out
#6 37% Ohio State
#7 24% Oklahoma
6 of the 7 with the best odds of making the playoff in the playoff predictor BEFORE the season started are still alive.
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Post by Whittaker on Nov 25, 2018 10:21:57 GMT -5
fivethirtyeight has a predictor page. Chance of Making Playoff95% Clemson 77% Notre Dame 71% Alabama 60% Ohio State 50% Oklahoma 39% Georgia The page also has an interactive feature where you can select the conference championship winners and see how the percentages change. projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-college-football-predictions/ |
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