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Post by Rambo McClain on Nov 25, 2018 12:59:54 GMT -5
Here's the Championship game match-ups from the 6 top Conferences.
ACC 12-0 Clemson 7-5 Pittsburgh They did not play in regular season
Clemson is a 24 pt favorite
Big Ten 11-1 Ohio State 8-4 Northwestern They did not play in regular season Ohio State is a 13 pt favorite
Big XII 11-1 Oklahoma 9-3 Texas Texas won 48-45 on October 6th at a neutral site Oklahoma is a 9 pt favorite
Pac 12 9-3 Washington 9-3 Utah Washington won 21-7 on September 15th at Utah Washington is a 3.5 pt favorite
SEC 12-0 Alabama 11-1 Georgia They did not play in regular season Alabama is an 11 point favorite
AAC 11-0 Central Florida 8-4 Memphis Central Florida won 31-30 on October 13th at Memphis UCF is a 7 pt favorite
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Post by DrTorch on Nov 25, 2018 13:19:44 GMT -5
you forgot ND
OH WAIT...
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 25, 2018 14:48:03 GMT -5
Washington vs Utah! LOL How far have the California schools and Oregon fallen.
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Post by Rambo McClain on Nov 25, 2018 14:52:20 GMT -5
Torch, I agree. Why does ND get a pass? Wisconsin went 12-0 last year but they had to suck it up and play a 13th game vs Ohio St. ND plays mostly ACC schools and is an ACC member in every other sport, but doesn't have to play the 13th game vs Clemson.
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Post by sportsjock on Nov 25, 2018 17:51:08 GMT -5
Torch, I agree. Why does ND get a pass? Wisconsin went 12-0 last year but they had to suck it up and play a 13th game vs Ohio St. ND plays mostly ACC schools and is an ACC member in every other sport, but doesn't have to play the 13th game vs Clemson. Special dispensation.......
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Post by maplecityjake on Nov 28, 2018 19:44:28 GMT -5
I find the spread in PAC-12 title game to be interesting. Maybe it's just me.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 23:13:10 GMT -5
Again, Ohio State and Alabama have both benefited from not playing in a conference title game. Why so hard on ND?
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Post by sportsjock on Nov 29, 2018 7:03:07 GMT -5
Again, Ohio State and Alabama have both benefited from not playing in a conference title game. Why so hard on ND? Bighoss, that has me confused..... [EDITED]
I just found your answer on another thread: Post by bighoss on 9 hours ago "don’t have a problem with ND not having to play this weekend. Alabama last year and Ohio St the year before didn’t and made the Invitational "
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Post by maplecityjake on Nov 29, 2018 7:09:43 GMT -5
Everyone hates the Golden Domers; no pass for Irish!
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Post by sportsjock on Nov 29, 2018 7:17:08 GMT -5
Everyone hates the Golden Domers; no pass for Irish! Now you know that's really not the case. The Irish have a nationwide following the caliber of Ohio State's. Ohio State purportedly, has the largest fan base...I am told, but the Irish is right up there.
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Post by maplecityjake on Nov 29, 2018 7:36:21 GMT -5
Don't be gullible; ha! I got my instigating post of the day out of the way.
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Post by Rambo McClain on Nov 29, 2018 11:40:11 GMT -5
Conf Champ games should be required to make the playoff. The Committee did us all a disservice when they let OSU and Bama in.
2013 Ohio State went 12-0 2015 Iowa went 12-0 2017 Wisconsin went 12-0
All 3 lost. So why does ND get a pass at 12-0? Because they beat Ball State by 8?
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Post by Whittaker on Nov 29, 2018 13:39:51 GMT -5
Rambo has a point.
Imagine this for a moment...The SEC receives a credible terror threat in Atlanta and must postpone the SEC Championship Game. The next day they announce that the game will not be played.
#1 Alabama and #4 Georgia both make the playoff...and play each other in the playoff semis!!!!!!
Right now, Bama & Georgia's best bet to get in the playoff is to not play each other in the SEC Title Game.
What's to stop the SEC from doing away with their Championship game(now and in the future) in the hope of getting 2 teams in the playoffs?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 13:51:42 GMT -5
Conf Champ games should be required to make the playoff. The Committee did us all a disservice when they let OSU and Bama in. 2013 Ohio State went 12-0 2015 Iowa went 12-0 2017 Wisconsin went 12-0 All 3 lost. So why does ND get a pass at 12-0? Because they beat Ball State by 8? The Invitational didn’t start until 2014, so the OSU point is null.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 29, 2018 18:54:46 GMT -5
Rambo has a point. Imagine this for a moment...The SEC receives a credible terror threat in Atlanta and must postpone the SEC Championship Game. The next day they announce that the game will not be played. #1 Alabama and #4 Georgia both make the playoff...and play each other in the playoff semis!!!!!! Right now, Bama & Georgia's best bet to get in the playoff is to not play each other in the SEC Title Game. What's to stop the SEC from doing away with their Championship game(now and in the future) in the hope of getting 2 teams in the playoffs? Alabama can take the game with Georgia off, rest players, stay healthy for The Playoffs, lose and will still garner enough votes to be #4 and get in. The only difference is they'd beat Clemson in the first game instead of the 2nd game. Then people would say there was a conspiracy. Done to leave out BOTH the Big 12 and Big 10.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 29, 2018 18:56:42 GMT -5
Conf Champ games should be required to make the playoff. The Committee did us all a disservice when they let OSU and Bama in. 2013 Ohio State went 12-0 2015 Iowa went 12-0 2017 Wisconsin went 12-0 All 3 lost. So why does ND get a pass at 12-0? Because they beat Ball State by 8? The Invitational didn’t start until 2014, so the OSU point is null. Even if The Invitational started in 2013, Ohio State had ZERO chance to make it since they were ruled ineligible.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Nov 29, 2018 19:07:56 GMT -5
Even if The Invitational started in 2013, Ohio State had ZERO chance to make it since they were ruled ineligible. The 2013 Buckeyes were bowl eligible. After losing to MSU in the B1G championship they lost to Clemson in the Orange Bowl, to finish the season 12-2.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 29, 2018 19:25:57 GMT -5
AH, that was 2012.
I was mislead by the 12-0
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Post by fbfan on Dec 1, 2018 9:51:08 GMT -5
Rambo has a point. Imagine this for a moment...The SEC receives a credible terror threat in Atlanta and must postpone the SEC Championship Game. The next day they announce that the game will not be played. #1 Alabama and #4 Georgia both make the playoff...and play each other in the playoff semis!!!!!! Right now, Bama & Georgia's best bet to get in the playoff is to not play each other in the SEC Title Game. What's to stop the SEC from doing away with their Championship game(now and in the future) in the hope of getting 2 teams in the playoffs? Alabama can take the game with Georgia off, rest players, stay healthy for The Playoffs, lose and will still garner enough votes to be #4 and get in. The only difference is they'd beat Clemson in the first game instead of the 2nd game. Then people would say there was a conspiracy. Done to leave out BOTH the Big 12 and Big 10. Whether they take the game "off" or just plain lose, if the committee puts both right back in the invitational that will be a big boost to sentiment for an 8 team playoff. Kind of hoping that happens and looking forward to watching the committee's lame excuses. Not to mention all the talking heads on eSECpn.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Dec 1, 2018 12:05:57 GMT -5
Quite a drop/bounce/pick 6 for the only TD in the Washington/Utah game
Chris Petersen now has won 2 of the last 3 Pac-12 titles
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Post by Birdman on Dec 1, 2018 12:43:01 GMT -5
I watched that PAC-12 game, it was like pulling teeth!!
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Post by Rambo McClain on Dec 1, 2018 13:15:20 GMT -5
I turned on eSECpn today to see what kind of absurd stuff they'd have to say. Well they didn't let me down they pulled out the "Game Control" line.
So the graphic looked sorta like this #1 Alabama ---- GC #1 #2 Clemson ---- GC #2 #3 Notre Dame - GC #7 #4 Georgia ---- GC #3 #5 Oklahoma --- GC #7 #6 Ohio State - GC #17
^^^ Well obviously Ohio State can't hang, those teams control the games while Ohio State doesn't. ^^^ Not so fast, eSECpn left out a lot of information which is important. The important information tells us this "stat" is completely worthless
11-0 Central Florida --- GC #18 9-3 LSU ---------------- GC #4
So a team that LOST 3 games is great at game control. Then why are they losing so much? And a team that is undefeated and really only had 1 close game has poor game control?
eSECpn's game control stat is a worthless. But eSECpn pulls out the game control stat when it works for the team they like
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Post by Rambo McClain on Dec 1, 2018 13:19:07 GMT -5
By the way 8-4 Missouri is #9 in game control. eSECpn is trying extra hard to get Oklahoma in. Using a stat that is completely worthless and giving it a name "game control" like they really analyzed something with precision.
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Post by Rambo McClain on Dec 1, 2018 13:29:19 GMT -5
I can't find a 1-130 rating of game control, but on their playoff picture page I can get some of their game control rankings
Game Control 1 12-0 Alabama 2 11-1 Georgia 3 12-0 Clemson 4 9-3 LSU 5 12-0 Notre Dame 6 9-3 Washington 7 11-1 Oklahoma 8 8-3 West Virginia 9 8-4 Missouri 10 10-2 Michigan 11 9-3 Syracuse 12 9-3 Texas 13 8-4 Mississippi St 14 team not listed on that page 15 9-3 Penn St 16 8-4 Texas A&M 17 11-1 Ohio St 18 11-0 Central Florida 19 10-2 Fresno State 20 team not listed on that page 21 team not listed on that page 22 10-2 Washington St 23 team not listed on that page 24 9-3 Florida 25 team not listed on that page
I wish Ohio State could control games like Missouri, maybe then we'd be 8-4 instead of 11-1. What a stupid stat, they are calculating something but it sure isn't game control.
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Post by Birdman on Dec 1, 2018 15:16:11 GMT -5
I feel like you could literally be losing the whole game, come back, win and then have a terrible “game control” and be undefeated.
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Post by Rambo McClain on Dec 1, 2018 15:26:54 GMT -5
But that's not how they calculate it, they do it even worse.
Ohio State has a 29 pt loss Missouri has a 29 pt loss Missouri also has 3 more losses
Central Florida has 10 easy wins, 1 close game and is 18th in game control. Central Florida has game controlled all but 1 of their wins but ranks 18th behind a team like Missouri that has 4 losses. Syracuse has 3 losses including a 36-3 beat down at the hands of Notre Dame. How does Syracuse have better game control than Central Florida?
They are calculating something but it is not game control.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2018 16:12:38 GMT -5
Oklahoma’s win probably shut the door on the Buckeyes Invite hopes
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Post by sportsjock on Dec 1, 2018 16:25:41 GMT -5
Oklahoma’s win probably shut the door on the Buckeyes Invite hopes It was glaringly obvious to everyone, Texas possesses players who are rather slow and unathletic. As the game wears on, they get slower and fatigued, their achilles heal all season.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Dec 1, 2018 17:01:33 GMT -5
UAB wins Conference USA, in their 2nd year back form hiatus. It's the first conference title in program history.
They were up 27-25 with just over a minute left and needed a first down to ice the game, they didn't get it, but then Middle Tennessee got called for 12 men on the ensuing punt formation and that was it.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 1, 2018 18:40:29 GMT -5
Oklahoma’s win probably shut the door on the Buckeyes Invite hopes Unless Georgia beats Alabama by 35 and Ohio State beats Northwestern 60-0.
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