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Post by purefan on Jan 19, 2019 12:22:11 GMT -5
Good win by cc last nite. Got a little too close for comfort at end. CC outplayed upper i thought but struggled big time from foul line. Thankfully feichtner knocked down the 2 biggest one’s when it mattered the most. CC gonna have to clean that up come tournament time or it could cost em. CC got great play from several kids that helped in the W other than fenner and feichtner. Shipman,the 2 walker’s and Studer all contributed to a great team effort. Upper seems to be a little confused at times as to what there idenity is on offense, by that i mean when in a half court offense who is there go to guy when they need a bucket? They are very talented but in the half court they just didn’t look very cohesive. Just my take, have only seen em play twice.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 12:57:24 GMT -5
In my opinion Upper needs to make some changes. Question is will they? Change what?
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Post by bballguy on Jan 19, 2019 14:09:54 GMT -5
Good win by cc last nite. Got a little too close for comfort at end. CC outplayed upper i thought but struggled big time from foul line. Thankfully feichtner knocked down the 2 biggest one’s when it mattered the most. CC gonna have to clean that up come tournament time or it could cost em. CC got great play from several kids that helped in the W other than fenner and feichtner. Shipman,the 2 walker’s and Studer all contributed to a great team effort. Upper seems to be a little confused at times as to what there idenity is on offense, by that i mean when in a half court offense who is there go to guy when they need a bucket? They are very talented but in the half court they just didn’t look very cohesive. Just my take, have only seen em play twice. I think you are right on purefan. Upper really struggles in the half court, especially against a zone. Teams seem to have figured this out. At times looked like 5 individuals, rather than a team. Did not appear they knew where they wanted to go with the ball. lots of 1 on 1 play, taking first available shot. Can have all the talent in the world, but if that talent is not pulling in the same direction it looks out of sorts.
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Post by dude on Jan 19, 2019 14:24:09 GMT -5
I'll ask the question everyone is thinking about.
Was there a handshake?
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Post by usramfan on Jan 19, 2019 18:12:36 GMT -5
I'll ask the question everyone is thinking about. Was there a handshake? Yes. Before and after. But Sheldon took a veiled shot at McCreary in the paper after the game. And the CC students chanted "DON'T COME BACK" near the end.
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Post by fbfan on Jan 24, 2019 20:57:06 GMT -5
Colonel Crawford 53 Mohawk 43 final
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Post by jmorgret07 on Jan 24, 2019 21:55:28 GMT -5
Colonel Crawford 14-15-10-14 - 53 Mohawk 5-8-11-19 - 43
Colonel Crawford (11-3, 7-3): 20-43 FG, 12-21 FT, 1-9 3pt (Studer) 38 rebounds (Fenner 8), 11 turnovers. Scoring: Reis Walker 2 1-2 5, Jordan Fenner 5 7-9 17, Zye Shipman 3 1-2 7, Gavin Feichtner 3 3-6 9, Chase Walker 2 0-0 4, Mason Studer 5 0-2 11.
Mohawk (12-1, 8-1): 18-58 FG, 2-7 FT, 5-25 3pt (Tusing 3, Gottfried 2) 37 rebounds (Klopp 9), 7 turnovers. Scoring: Keith Jenkins 3 0-0 6, Kaiden Hammer 0 0-0 0, Austin Tusing 3 0-0 9, Zach Hayman 7 0-3 14, Chris Klopp 2 2-4 6, Landen Snyder 0 0-0 0, Hunter Gottfried 3 0-0 8.
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Post by purefan on Jan 24, 2019 22:53:13 GMT -5
Another good win for the Eagles. CC pretty much led start to finish, i think mohawk held a brief 3 to 2 lead. CC was never in any real danger of letting this one slip away although still struggling from the foul line. It’s been fun watching this team grow and get better as season going along. Have a big one sat at wynford and coach Mohr will have the Royals believing they can pull the upset. CC will need to avoid any sort of a let down after these last couple of big wins. Can’t wait till sat. GO EAGLES!
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Post by bigox on Jan 25, 2019 9:10:31 GMT -5
Really dont think it was as much of what C.C. did as what it was what Mohawk did not. Off night shooting for the Warriors and lots of tips and loose balls didn't go in their favor. Plus officials did not call the game nearly as physical as their first game with Crawford or their game with Upper. And not 100% sure Mohawk kids completely had their heads in the game after the weekend and week they had. Cudos to CC for picking up the win it was a good game to watch.
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Post by dude on Jan 25, 2019 10:27:07 GMT -5
Looks like Mohawk had a terrible first quarter getting started but outscored CC in the second half.
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Post by fbfan on Jan 25, 2019 10:53:27 GMT -5
Really dont think it was as much of what C.C. did as what it was what Mohawk did not. Off night shooting for the Warriors and lots of tips and loose balls didn't go in their favor. Plus officials did not call the game nearly as physical as their first game with Crawford or their game with Upper. And not 100% sure Mohawk kids completely had their heads in the game after the weekend and week they had. Cudos to CC for picking up the win it was a good game to watch. If you take a close look at the scores in the N10 this year, lower than average offensive production seems to be a pattern for CC's opponents. Just a coincidence, I suppose.
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Post by bigox on Jan 25, 2019 11:01:53 GMT -5
Really dont think it was as much of what C.C. did as what it was what Mohawk did not. Off night shooting for the Warriors and lots of tips and loose balls didn't go in their favor. Plus officials did not call the game nearly as physical as their first game with Crawford or their game with Upper. And not 100% sure Mohawk kids completely had their heads in the game after the weekend and week they had. Cudos to CC for picking up the win it was a good game to watch. If you take a close look at the scores in the N10 this year, lower than average offensive production seems to be a pattern for CC's opponents. Just a coincidence, I suppose. 20% from three when they average 37% yeah I call that off shooting. 31% from two, again they average 53% on the year as a team. Missed a ton of OPEN looks. Nothing that the defense did specifically. Same with the Upper win. They missed a ton of wide open looks. Either teams shoots for average and it goes the other way. But that's why they play the games right. Things happen, plays happen. Not hating on CC they fought and got the wins in both games. But it wasn't because they did anything earth shattering or the defensive end. Just caught both teams on bad shooting nights
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Post by dude on Jan 25, 2019 11:28:19 GMT -5
Really dont think it was as much of what C.C. did as what it was what Mohawk did not. Off night shooting for the Warriors and lots of tips and loose balls didn't go in their favor. Plus officials did not call the game nearly as physical as their first game with Crawford or their game with Upper. And not 100% sure Mohawk kids completely had their heads in the game after the weekend and week they had. Cudos to CC for picking up the win it was a good game to watch. If you take a close look at the scores in the N10 this year, lower than average offensive production seems to be a pattern for CC's opponents. Just a coincidence, I suppose. So are you saying they played good defense in the first quarter (5pts) but then quit after that? Giving up 19 in the fourth quarter is normally not good defense.
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Post by fbfan on Jan 25, 2019 11:39:34 GMT -5
If you take a close look at the scores in the N10 this year, lower than average offensive production seems to be a pattern for CC's opponents. Just a coincidence, I suppose. So are you saying they played good defense in the first quarter (5pts) but then quit after that? Giving up 19 in the fourth quarter is normally not good defense. No.
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Post by purefan on Jan 25, 2019 12:36:00 GMT -5
If you take a close look at the scores in the N10 this year, lower than average offensive production seems to be a pattern for CC's opponents. Just a coincidence, I suppose. 20% from three when they average 37% yeah I call that off shooting. 31% from two, again they average 53% on the year as a team. Missed a ton of OPEN looks. Nothing that the defense did specifically. Same with the Upper win. They missed a ton of wide open looks. Either teams shoots for average and it goes the other way. But that's why they play the games right. Things happen, plays happen. Not hating on CC they fought and got the wins in both games. But it wasn't because they did anything earth shattering or the defensive end. Just caught both teams on bad shooting nights Keep telling yourself that. CC’s defense and especially there overall length have nothing to do with poor shooting. Rofl
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Post by purefan on Jan 25, 2019 12:37:10 GMT -5
If you take a close look at the scores in the N10 this year, lower than average offensive production seems to be a pattern for CC's opponents. Just a coincidence, I suppose. So are you saying they played good defense in the first quarter (5pts) but then quit after that? Giving up 19 in the fourth quarter is normally not good defense. 4th qtr aka commonly known as garbage time in a game that was in hand contibutes to more scoring.
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Post by purefan on Jan 25, 2019 12:56:06 GMT -5
CC giving up an ave of 41.2 points/game. Only 1 team (plymouth) has broken the 50 pt mark against them. Mohawk scored 2 more against cc than the ave they give up.
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Post by purefan on Jan 25, 2019 13:08:06 GMT -5
Offensivly the Eagles ave 53.2 per game. So right on there ave against Mohawk. As i predicted early in season i said it would take CC a few weeks to gel. The gelling has come together nicely. That 3 game strech early in season was a tough one for a young team learning to play with one another after there point guard leaves em very late in the summer. I love the direction this team is heading. Not saying there won’t be a hiccup along the way but coming together nicely for a nice tournament run.
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Post by bigox on Jan 25, 2019 13:09:27 GMT -5
20% from three when they average 37% yeah I call that off shooting. 31% from two, again they average 53% on the year as a team. Missed a ton of OPEN looks. Nothing that the defense did specifically. Same with the Upper win. They missed a ton of wide open looks. Either teams shoots for average and it goes the other way. But that's why they play the games right. Things happen, plays happen. Not hating on CC they fought and got the wins in both games. But it wasn't because they did anything earth shattering or the defensive end. Just caught both teams on bad shooting nights Keep telling yourself that. CC’s defense and especially there overall length have nothing to do with poor shooting. Rofl Keep telling yourself that CCs length and speed..or lack there of was what affected the outcome of all four games. I was at all of them. And OPEN and I mean WIDE open missed shots from both Mohawk and Upper are what cost both games and aloud CC to hang around and or win. Sure there were a few contested shots but the bulk of both teams missed 3point attempts were wide open looks without any length in site. Because they were late in rotation and the shooter had good looks. Not because they had gotten there and had a hand in the shooters face with that length Sorry purefan but you are wrong about this one. Yes they won two of four games with these teams but it is not because they beat them with incredible defensive stops.
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Post by fbfan on Jan 25, 2019 13:11:11 GMT -5
Average scoring all games, ppg scored against CC.
Upper-- 68.1 ppg, 48,46
Mohawk--65.3 ppg, 49,43
Carey--60.2 ppg, 49
I only tabulated the 3 teams that beat CC early on in the season. Someone else can do the remainder if they think anything different would be seen.
All just coincidences I'm sure, caught all those teams on off nights for them.
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Post by dude on Jan 25, 2019 13:13:57 GMT -5
So are you saying they played good defense in the first quarter (5pts) but then quit after that? Giving up 19 in the fourth quarter is normally not good defense. 4th qtr aka commonly known as garbage time in a game that was in hand contibutes to more scoring. Ok I see what you mean, so being up 15 going into the final quarter, Sheldon clears his bench and goes with garbage time against the only undefeated team in the league after they had just outscored them in the 3rd?
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Post by fbfan on Jan 25, 2019 13:18:34 GMT -5
4th qtr aka commonly known as garbage time in a game that was in hand contibutes to more scoring. Ok I see what you mean, so being up 15 going into the final quarter, Sheldon clears his bench and goes with garbage time against the only undefeated team in the league after they had just outscored them in the 3rd? Losing team makes up 5 points in 4th quarter. Not uncommon.
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Post by dude on Jan 25, 2019 13:20:55 GMT -5
Average scoring all games, ppg scored against CC.Upper-- 68.1 ppg, 48,46 Mohawk--65.3 ppg, 49,43 Carey--60.2 ppg, 49 I only tabulated the 3 teams that beat CC early on in the season. Someone else can do the remainder if they think anything different would be seen. All just coincidences I'm sure, caught all those teams on off nights for them. CC average 53 a game. against Upper 45, 47 against Carey 34 against Mohawk 48, 53 against Seneca East 44 against Buckeye Central 47 against Wynford 51
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Post by purefan on Jan 25, 2019 13:24:15 GMT -5
Average scoring all games, ppg scored against CC.Upper-- 68.1 ppg, 48,46 Mohawk--65.3 ppg, 49,43 Carey--60.2 ppg, 49 I only tabulated the 3 teams that beat CC early on in the season. Someone else can do the remainder if they think anything different would be seen. All just coincidences I'm sure, caught all those teams on off nights for them. CC average 53 a game. against Upper 45, 47 against Carey 34 against Mohawk 48, 53 against Seneca East 44 against Buckeye Central 47 against Wynford 51 Must of been off nites for CC. Rofl. 🤣😂
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Post by purefan on Jan 25, 2019 13:25:43 GMT -5
4th qtr aka commonly known as garbage time in a game that was in hand contibutes to more scoring. Ok I see what you mean, so being up 15 going into the final quarter, Sheldon clears his bench and goes with garbage time against the only undefeated team in the league after they had just outscored them in the 3rd? You already know the answer to this so i don’t need to give it to you. And so you can sleep at nite there was a 🤝
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Post by purefan on Jan 25, 2019 13:28:51 GMT -5
Keep telling yourself that. CC’s defense and especially there overall length have nothing to do with poor shooting. Rofl Keep telling yourself that CCs length and speed..or lack there of was what affected the outcome of all four games. I was at all of them. And OPEN and I mean WIDE open missed shots from both Mohawk and Upper are what cost both games and aloud CC to hang around and or win. Sure there were a few contested shots but the bulk of both teams missed 3point attempts were wide open looks without any length in site. Because they were late in rotation and the shooter had good looks. Not because they had gotten there and had a hand in the shooters face with that length Sorry purefan but you are wrong about this one. Yes they won two of four games with these teams but it is not because they beat them with incredible defensive stops. You are entitled to your opinion but i don’t feel i am wrong. Numbers don’t lie. This is one of sheldon’s better defensive teams he has had in awhile.
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Post by fbfan on Jan 25, 2019 13:30:52 GMT -5
Average scoring all games, ppg scored against CC.Upper-- 68.1 ppg, 48,46 Mohawk--65.3 ppg, 49,43 Carey--60.2 ppg, 49 I only tabulated the 3 teams that beat CC early on in the season. Someone else can do the remainder if they think anything different would be seen. All just coincidences I'm sure, caught all those teams on off nights for them. CC average 53 a game. against Upper 45, 47 CC winsagainst Carey 34 against Mohawk 48, 53 CC winsagainst Seneca East 44 CC winsagainst Buckeye Central 47 CC winsagainst Wynford 51 CC winsI was talking about CC's defense, but I fixed your post anyway.
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Post by fbfan on Jan 25, 2019 13:34:39 GMT -5
CC average 53 a game. against Upper 45, 47 CC winsagainst Carey 34 against Mohawk 48, 53 CC winsagainst Seneca East 44 CC winsagainst Buckeye Central 47 CC winsagainst Wynford 51 CC winsI was talking about CC's defense, but I fixed your post anyway. Being able to win on an off night is a good thing. rofl.
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Post by dude on Jan 25, 2019 13:40:02 GMT -5
CC average 53 a game. against Upper 45, 47 CC winsagainst Carey 34 against Mohawk 48, 53 CC winsagainst Seneca East 44 CC winsagainst Buckeye Central 47 CC winsagainst Wynford 51 CC winsI was talking about CC's defense, but I fixed your post anyway. But they were below their average so it had to be from good defense.
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Post by dude on Jan 25, 2019 13:41:23 GMT -5
Ok I see what you mean, so being up 15 going into the final quarter, Sheldon clears his bench and goes with garbage time against the only undefeated team in the league after they had just outscored them in the 3rd? You already know the answer to this so i don’t need to give it to you. And so you can sleep at nite there was a 🤝 I do know the answer. Not every 4th quarter has garbage time
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