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Post by dude on Dec 9, 2018 8:44:27 GMT -5
If that is true I would hope Sheldon loses every game the rest of the season and he should be removed from all positions with the basketball coaches association. I just love uneducated posts. There was zero chance for any handshakes the way the floor got stormed. It was a saftey issue at that point. With the emotions and the talking going on it was absolutly the right move to get our players out of what could of been a very bad situation. Just getting to the locker room was difficult. Dont bash if you dont know There was no mention of rushing the floor. What I love is that you cannot read. Since I said IF this is true, I had indicated I did not know for sure. |
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Post by dude on Dec 9, 2018 8:46:30 GMT -5
Wow. Crawford had a chance. Heard it was a great effort by CC. Also heard Sheldon did not shake hands with Upper Coach after the game nor did the players. If true, not surprising but very sad. It is absolutely true. He didn't shake hands before the game either. As soon as the shot went through the basket, he made a beeline for the locker room and never looked back. And yes, the players did followed him and didn't shake hands either. The ONLY pass I MAY give him is that Upper students swarmed the floor and Lord only knows how long it would have taken to get sorted out. That being said, it was a bad example from a man who is the coach, athletic director and Vice President of the OHSBCA. It was a classless move, quite frankly. His coaching career has a few of those moves. |
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Post by purefan on Dec 9, 2018 9:08:47 GMT -5
Was not a classless move at all. Was the absolute right one. Stop spreading untruths. If you want classless moves talked about i could bring up many that happened after the game by upper players and fans, but i won’t. Glad our kids got off floor and into locker room unharmed.
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Post by royalballdad on Dec 9, 2018 9:14:09 GMT -5
Wynford lost in OT to Buckeye Central 60-58.
Not a great start to season for the Royals, now 0-3. For Wynford Crall had 29 points in the loss. No other Royals were in double figures. Noblit with 7. Buckeye had 4 players in double digits. Wurm 17 Biglin 13 Rose 11 & Heefner 10. Buckeye coach does a nice job coaching in his first season.
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Post by dude on Dec 9, 2018 9:22:15 GMT -5
Was not a classless move at all. Was the absolute right one. Stop spreading untruths. If you want classless moves talked about i could bring up many that happened after the game by upper players and fans, but i won’t. Glad our kids got off floor and into locker room unharmed. No untruths being spread in my posts since I admitted to not being at the game and not knowing how it ended. But I have never heard of a local HS game where the students came onto the floor and a player was harmed so try not to be so dramatic. |
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Post by royalballdad on Dec 9, 2018 9:32:43 GMT -5
Was not a classless move at all. Was the absolute right one. Stop spreading untruths. If you want classless moves talked about i could bring up many that happened after the game by upper players and fans, but i won’t. Glad our kids got off floor and into locker room unharmed. No untruths being spread in my posts since I admitted to not being at the game and not knowing how it ended. But I have never heard of a local HS game where the students came onto the floor and a player was harmed so try not to be so dramatic. This has happened numerous times where a last second shot wins a game. And the winning team and their students / fans run onto the floor and celebrate. In every game that I was witness to with a game winner at the buzzer the losing team usually stays at their bench and waits for the celebration to subside then the players & coaches shake hands. In this case I agree emotions were very high with with this game. But I would think the coach of the losing team could have sent his players directly to the locker room and walked the 8-10 steps over to the Upper coach and shook his hand then followed his team players to the locker room. As a former coach, that is what I would have done. I am pretty sure this wasn’t Sheldon’s first loss with a quick exit and a no hand shake of winning coaches. |
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Post by purefan on Dec 9, 2018 9:56:32 GMT -5
No untruths being spread in my posts since I admitted to not being at the game and not knowing how it ended. But I have never heard of a local HS game where the students came onto the floor and a player was harmed so try not to be so dramatic. This has happened numerous times where a last second shot wins a game. And the winning team and their students / fans run onto the floor and celebrate. In every game that I was witness to with a game winner at the buzzer the losing team usually stays at their bench and waits for the celebration to subside then the players & coaches shake hands. In this case I agree emotions were very high with with this game. But I would think the coach of the losing team could have sent his players directly to the locker room and walked the 8-10 steps over to the Upper coach and shook his hand then followed his team players to the locker room. As a former coach, that is what I would have done. I am pretty sure this wasn’t Sheldon’s first loss with a quick exit and a no hand shake of winning coaches. Don’t speculate. You weren’t there. After shot vent ran to other end of floor which was cc’s bench area. All students and many fans followed. Cc’s bench area was engulfed. Words were being said and sheldon immediatly motioned to kids to leave and get to locker room to avoid confrontations. Upper’s celebration lasted approx 9 to 11 min on the floor with floor covered with people. Trust me when i say the upper kids only had one thought on minds and that was celebrating. Shaking hands was last on the list |
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Post by fcc108 on Dec 9, 2018 10:10:04 GMT -5
Coach Sheldon for Crawford has always been a sore loser and continues to be one. Always has no class after he’s lost against upper for 2 straight years in a row
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Post by maplecityjake on Dec 9, 2018 10:12:41 GMT -5
I have friends who coach, and they have told me when warranted, it's best not to shake hands due to avoiding potential major conflict
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Post by royalballdad on Dec 9, 2018 10:19:16 GMT -5
Agree with sending the players. IMO the coach could have taken the few seconds to walk over and congratulate shake hands the Uppers coaches.
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Post by purefan on Dec 9, 2018 10:49:35 GMT -5
Agree with sending the players. IMO the coach could have taken the few seconds to walk over and congratulate shake hands the Uppers coaches. The circumstances dictated the actions at end of game. Everyone is entitled to there own opinion and imo it was absolutly the right call for everyone on cc bench coaches included to leave floor asap. All it would of took is one kid bumping into another or one smart remark to have a rumble and we would be talking about who knows what right now. I’m sure you all remember the lex game from a year ago or two. Imo cc did right thing and showed much class with all the added emotions. |
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Post by royalballdad on Dec 9, 2018 12:09:22 GMT -5
Agree with sending the players. IMO the coach could have taken the few seconds to walk over and congratulate shake hands the Uppers coaches. The circumstances dictated the actions at end of game. Everyone is entitled to there own opinion and imo it was absolutly the right call for everyone on cc bench coaches included to leave floor asap. All it would of took is one kid bumping into another or one smart remark to have a rumble and we would be talking about who knows what right now. I’m sure you all remember the lex game from a year ago or two. Imo cc did right thing and showed much class with all the added emotions. “Bumping in” interesting that you bring that up. Talking to a friend today at church who attended the game said that a Crawford parent after the game got into the McCreary kid as he was trying to get to the locker room and the Upper players & coaches had to intervene to get the parent away from the kid so he could get to the locker room. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 12:22:49 GMT -5
The circumstances dictated the actions at end of game. Everyone is entitled to there own opinion and imo it was absolutly the right call for everyone on cc bench coaches included to leave floor asap. All it would of took is one kid bumping into another or one smart remark to have a rumble and we would be talking about who knows what right now. I’m sure you all remember the lex game from a year ago or two. Imo cc did right thing and showed much class with all the added emotions. “Bumping in” interesting that you bring that up. Talking to a friend today at church who attended the game said that a Crawford parent after the game got into the McCreary kid as he was trying to get to the locker room and the Upper players & coaches had to intervene to get the parent away from the kid so he could get to the locker room. Was it purefan? Lol |
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Post by purefan on Dec 9, 2018 12:36:26 GMT -5
“Bumping in” interesting that you bring that up. Talking to a friend today at church who attended the game said that a Crawford parent after the game got into the McCreary kid as he was trying to get to the locker room and the Upper players & coaches had to intervene to get the parent away from the kid so he could get to the locker room. Was it purefan? Lol Was not nor was it any parents involved with any upper kids. Don’t spread untruths. I was there, only thing that happened with upper kids were between cc kids and upper kids as they finnally left floor and headed right by cc student section into locker room. All verbal and nothing else. There were some things that went on between a certain upper kids’s dad and a cc parent well after game but it was minor and instigated by certain upper kids dad. This is why i finnally joined this forum. To post the truth’s, not the untruth’s. |
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Post by purefan on Dec 9, 2018 12:40:10 GMT -5
And royallballdad, do you post from church? I skipped this week but would never be on my phone in the house of god. Must of been a short sermon and short drive if you didn’t post from church.
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Post by royalballdad on Dec 9, 2018 12:47:00 GMT -5
And royallballdad, do you post from church? I skipped this week but would never be on my phone in the house of god. Must of been a short sermon and short drive if you didn’t post from church. Caught me. Your wrong about this. I have the name of the parent from my Upper Friend and if you are as big a CC guy as you portray on here, you will know this person - but I won't put the name out there. This parent got chest-to-chest with the McCreary kid and wouldn't let him get to lockerroom until coaches & players had to intervene. And I believe my friend as we were in the church when he told me... not sure he would lie to me in a house of God. |
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Post by purefan on Dec 9, 2018 12:56:36 GMT -5
And royallballdad, do you post from church? I skipped this week but would never be on my phone in the house of god. Must of been a short sermon and short drive if you didn’t post from church. Caught me. Your wrong about this. I have the name of the parent from my Upper Friend and if you are as big a CC guy as you portray on here, you will know this person - but I won't put the name out there. This parent got chest-to-chest with the McCreary kid and wouldn't let him get to lockerroom until coaches & players had to intervene. And I believe my friend as we were in the church when he told me... not sure he would lie to me in a house of God. Better check with him again. I saw none of this and i stayed and watched every single thing from a very good vantage point till there were a couple dozen people left in gym. |
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Post by royalballdad on Dec 9, 2018 13:02:12 GMT -5
Was not nor was it any parents involved with any upper kids. Don’t spread untruths. I was there, only thing that happened with upper kids were between cc kids and upper kids as they finnally left floor and headed right by cc student section into locker room. All verbal and nothing else. There were some things that went on between a certain upper kids’s dad and a cc parent well after game but it was minor and instigated by certain upper kids dad. This is why i finnally joined this forum. To post the truth’s, not the untruth’s. Glad you brought this up too. As this same Upper friend, while at church told me about another incident involving parents of a Crawford player who were at the girl's Crawford v Upper game taking pictures of the McCreary kid from the Crawford bench across the floor. Taking so many pictures that numorous Upper players started to block the view of these Crawford parents show they would stop taking the pics. My friend said this "picture taking of the McCreary kid" was seen by multiple parents and coaches as well. All thought this to be very odd for that these two parents to be so consumed with taking this kids picture. Couple that with my friend telling me that these same parents were during the boys game last night taking pics of the McCreary kids Dad who was on the opposite of the gym at the very top. Then showing the pics to the people around them in the stands. And this picture taking of the Dad was going on throughout the game. This actually comes across has a form of harassment. Everyone certainly has the right to snap pics from their phone. But this seems more than odd and slightly sick. That these two Crawford parents would so blatantly take these pictures and make it so clear about doing it. For what reason were the pictures being taken? |
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Post by purefan on Dec 9, 2018 13:22:39 GMT -5
Was not nor was it any parents involved with any upper kids. Don’t spread untruths. I was there, only thing that happened with upper kids were between cc kids and upper kids as they finnally left floor and headed right by cc student section into locker room. All verbal and nothing else. There were some things that went on between a certain upper kids’s dad and a cc parent well after game but it was minor and instigated by certain upper kids dad. This is why i finnally joined this forum. To post the truth’s, not the untruth’s. Glad you brought this up too. As this same Upper friend, while at church told me about another incident involving parents of a Crawford player who were at the girl's Crawford v Upper game taking pictures of the McCreary kid from the Crawford bench across the floor. Taking so many pictures that numorous Upper players started to block the view of these Crawford parents show they would stop taking the pics. My friend said this "picture taking of the McCreary kid" was seen by multiple parents and coaches as well. All thought this to be very odd for that these two parents to be so consumed with taking this kids picture. Couple that with my friend telling me that these same parents were during the boys game last night taking pics of the McCreary kids Dad who was on the opposite of the gym at the very top. Then showing the pics to the people around them in the stands. And this picture taking of the Dad was going on throughout the game. This actually comes across has a form of harassment. Everyone certainly has the right to snap pics from their phone. But this seems more than odd and slightly sick. That these two Crawford parents would so blatantly take these pictures and make it so clear about doing it. For what reason were the pictures being taken? Can’t help ya with this accusation. I didn’t see any of this at either game. Maybe they are making a photo album? Maybe they were taking pics of there son or daughter on the floor? Maybe the whole thing being made up? Thats my bet |
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Post by fbfan on Dec 9, 2018 13:29:14 GMT -5
Aug 25, 2018 12:19:51 GMT -5 royalballdad said:
fbfan, Maybe if that Crawford coach accused of trying get a school or schools kicked out of the league would spend more of his time and energy caring about his own players and school he might not have to worry about what the other schools were doing or what players they were getting due to open enrollment or move-ins.
Aug 25, 2018 13:19:27 GMT -5 fbfan said:
That's laughable royaballdad, you don't know squat. Anyone can come on here and say whatever they want "from what I have heard". I could play that game too, if I wanted to, but I don't.
I'll repeat what I said last summer above.
It's obvious you're biased RBdad. I wasn't at the game either, but I could probably find a friend who was,.......and he said................, well, you get the idea.
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Post by usramfan on Dec 9, 2018 13:29:40 GMT -5
Coach Sheldon for Crawford has always been a sore loser and continues to be one. Always has no class after he’s lost against upper for 2 straight years in a rowUpper has now beat CC 8 straight times. CC's last win was January 28, 2015. |
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Post by usramfan on Dec 9, 2018 13:31:54 GMT -5
Was not nor was it any parents involved with any upper kids. Don’t spread untruths. I was there, only thing that happened with upper kids were between cc kids and upper kids as they finnally left floor and headed right by cc student section into locker room. All verbal and nothing else. There were some things that went on between a certain upper kids’s dad and a cc parent well after game but it was minor and instigated by certain upper kids dad. This is why i finnally joined this forum. To post the truth’s, not the untruth’s. So because you say it makes it true??? |
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Post by purefan on Dec 9, 2018 13:44:34 GMT -5
Was not nor was it any parents involved with any upper kids. Don’t spread untruths. I was there, only thing that happened with upper kids were between cc kids and upper kids as they finnally left floor and headed right by cc student section into locker room. All verbal and nothing else. There were some things that went on between a certain upper kids’s dad and a cc parent well after game but it was minor and instigated by certain upper kids dad. This is why i finnally joined this forum. To post the truth’s, not the untruth’s. So because you say it makes it true??? If you say so, no skin off my neck if you believe anything on here or not. This was an assement of went on after game thru my eyes and ears from a very good vantage point. One thing i won’t do is puposely make things up. That’s for the other trolls on here to do. |
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Post by bigox on Dec 9, 2018 13:46:10 GMT -5
Oh my, this is getting good. There is a ton of bad blood brewing in this. And its coming from both sides. And I guess kinda rightfully so.
Like the stats show Upper has owned C.C. like a cheap prom date since the inception of the N10. Nobody argues that point. Upper is how did Sheldon say it ... "a nice D2 team in a D4 league." ( D3 now actually). But that is not really a huge deal because of how Colonel Crawford Catholic has recruited over the years. (both dead horses beat over the years on here)
Was the Mcreary kid " recruited" to Upper. We can all speculate but no more than we speculate on how him and the Houle kid came to Crawford. Either way serious drama surrounds the whole thing.
The hand shakes or lack there of.... I dont think that happened last year at Crawfood either. Upper kids got excited after win and swarmed the team. Believe that the eagles went back to their locker room straight away at home too. But only after the chest thumping across center of the floor buy the Upper players. Had to feel some disrespect for that and posing for team pics after the game. Dont know how much it cost to have the video company come in a document that loss but I am assuming it was not cheap.
Emotions ran high last night. See a lot of stuff you dont like to see because of it. And hopefully cooler heads will prevail at C.C.but doubtful
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Post by fbfan on Dec 9, 2018 14:01:07 GMT -5
Good post bigox, but I think you give CC central a little to much credit. They work at the grade school and middle school level. Now if one of St Pete's starters from last year wound up at CC this year....................  |
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Post by royalballdad on Dec 9, 2018 14:05:45 GMT -5
Fbfan.. yes I am biased in that as a Wynford fan I am not a fan of Crawford or their coach.
Purefan... like you I am only posting what I know to be true.
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Post by royalballdad on Dec 9, 2018 14:09:19 GMT -5
At least this Upper v Crawford drama gives me and friends something to talk about as thinking and talking about our Wynford program is absolutely painfull right now.
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Post by purefan on Dec 9, 2018 14:34:07 GMT -5
At least this Upper v Crawford drama gives me and friends something to talk about as thinking and talking about our Wynford program is absolutely painfull right now. Painfull because the royals didn’t hire lee rowlinson when they had the chance. Would of gotten a good coach plus his kid. Instead it’s been a carousel of coaches and will be again before long. Then they will try and get sheldon convinced to come back home once again to no avail, but thats ok since you don’t like him, we will be more than happy to keep em here at cc. |
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Post by usramfan on Dec 9, 2018 15:12:07 GMT -5
So because you say it makes it true??? If you say so, no skin off my neck if you believe anything on here or not. This was an assement of went on after game thru my eyes and ears from a very good vantage point. One thing i won’t do is puposely make things up. That’s for the other trolls on here to do. But you implied that your purpose for joining this forum was to post nothing but the truth. As in everything that you post is factual and can't be denied by anyone. I have never made such insinuations. |
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Post by royalballdad on Dec 9, 2018 15:14:59 GMT -5
Have to agree with you about Rowlinson. His kid is pretty good as a Soph at Western. Don’t agree about wanting Sheldon. Only a few over here would want him and those are his buddies who are administrators. He isn’t the answer to our lack of recent success in basketball. Poor Hiring decisions, lack of development at the elementary & junior high levels, competing with a very successful football program, and lack of recent talent are some of the main reasons for our poor records in basketball. Sheldon at Crawford has been successful due to having talent and playing in a fairly weak league and district. Not sure he would be Wynford’s Savior as you are suggesting.
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