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Post by ronburgandy on Jan 4, 2019 6:50:13 GMT -5
And here I thought we had this thread back on track...
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Post by dude on Jan 4, 2019 7:01:30 GMT -5
Sounds like Alex Grinch may be leaving for Oklahoma. This may indicate that Schiano is staying.
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Post by buckeyekid on Jan 4, 2019 7:34:34 GMT -5
I thought the same thing dude. Grinch also will get a large pay raise
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 4, 2019 9:38:37 GMT -5
i don't think Schiano has any other options, i thought there was a good chance Day was going to him after the comments Schiano made before the Rose Bowl
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Post by dude on Jan 4, 2019 10:07:04 GMT -5
i don't think Schiano has any other options, i thought there was a good chance Day was going to him after the comments Schiano made before the Rose Bowl Would this imply that Day wanted Schiano over Grinch as the DC? Because Schiano had no other options does not mean he gets to stay at OSU if Day would rather have someone else in his spot.
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Post by 1percenter on Jan 4, 2019 11:12:44 GMT -5
Credit for dominating a mediocre conference and handicapping an entire program to a QB who got worse every year when they were better options? Mixing in a little nepotism along the way? Seems like you don't want to give him any blame for his awful showing @ PUR and @ IOWA. No, no...those of your ilk blamed a QB for the @ IOWA loss, why wasn't a QB at fault for the @ PUR loss? Are you trying to blame Haskins for the Purdue loss? The kid threw for 470 yards vs Purdue.
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 4, 2019 11:18:52 GMT -5
i don't think Schiano has any other options, i thought there was a good chance Day was going to him after the comments Schiano made before the Rose Bowl Would this imply that Day wanted Schiano over Grinch as the DC? Because Schiano had no other options does not mean he gets to stay at OSU if Day would rather have someone else in his spot. yeah if Day is keeping him it means he wants him, he has carte blanche to staff his own people there was speculation that Schiano would be itching to take a HC job if one was offered, but apparently one wasn't...i'm not a huge fan but i do feel bad for the guy after the tennessee crap last year and i hear that he has a lawsuit against them for yanking the offer
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Post by buckeyekid on Jan 4, 2019 11:30:32 GMT -5
If I had to pinpoint the dismal showing at Purdue I'm blaming a flat performance on a slightly banged up team at numerous positions. Also not having the right guys getting tons of minutes. The sobering reality that Nick Bosa isn't coming back,, And finally the night game curse where ESPN/ ABC shamelessly promotes the "win one for the gipper" theme,,once again,, where they exploit a dying kid in hopes of ratings. Don't forget OSU was still evolving as a team at the time,,,and also at the time Purdue was on a roll and playing much better than their record.
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Post by ronburgandy on Jan 4, 2019 12:17:28 GMT -5
Michael Jordan also announces he will be leaving for the NFL so that will be 4 starters gone from the Oline. That could be an area of concern next year.
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Post by utsherman on Jan 4, 2019 12:26:37 GMT -5
Justin Fields reportedly visiting Ohio State this weekend and will enroll in classes next week. Will be interesting to see if his attorney can pull a rabbit out of the hat on his hardship waiver. He hired the same guy who successfully got Patterson and other Ole Miss players on the field right away. Martell’s Twitter feed should be pure gold heading into the Spring.
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Post by utsherman on Jan 4, 2019 12:30:14 GMT -5
Update: Fields is literally on campus right now per multiple media sources. Official news could drop today. I guess the Giants can now really begin sweating Haskins.
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 4, 2019 12:34:46 GMT -5
Justin Fields reportedly visiting Ohio State this weekend and will enroll in classes next week. Will be interesting to see if his attorney can pull a rabbit out of the hat on his hardship waiver. He hired the same guy who successfully got Patterson and other Ole Miss players on the field right away. Martell’s Twitter feed should be pure gold heading into the Spring. Fields will get his hardship granted. He had several nasty racially charged slurs hurled at him by a member of the Georgia baseball team by a kid who has since been dismissed.
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Post by buckeyekid on Jan 4, 2019 12:39:09 GMT -5
Losing MJ hurts
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 4, 2019 12:43:18 GMT -5
If I had to pinpoint the dismal showing at Purdue I'm blaming a flat performance on a slightly banged up team at numerous positions. Also not having the right guys getting tons of minutes. The sobering reality that Nick Bosa isn't coming back,, And finally the night game curse where ESPN/ ABC shamelessly promotes the "win one for the gipper" theme,,once again,, where they exploit a dying kid in hopes of ratings. Don't forget OSU was still evolving as a team at the time,,,and also at the time Purdue was on a roll and playing much better than their record. once is luck, twice is a trend I don't mind the loss but giving up 49 points to Purdue on the back of giving up 50 to Iowa the year before is unacceptable. Tress never got it handed to him like that by mediocre squads, hell either did Cooper. I mean I don't expect to go undefeated every season but to get waxed by some second rate West teams is unacceptable for a coach you guys like to tout as the 2nd coming. I mean the cancer kid was at the Auburn game too :+(
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2019 12:48:56 GMT -5
Grinch is heading to Oklahoma to be their DC
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Post by buckeyekid on Jan 4, 2019 13:11:11 GMT -5
Tress got waxed once by Iowa for sure,lost to Northwestern, crushed by USC when TP was a Freshman,,,blew games against Texas twice, I’d have to look up and see if any other team did.as well. It happens to every coach at some point. Tressel was not immune to bad losses . You need to just stick to the fact that you don't like Urban and leave it at that. You won't be able to prove that Tressel or Coop had more program success. The facts are not in your favor bro.
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 4, 2019 14:21:39 GMT -5
I'm not saying they had more success, although Tress's success imho was equal to Urban's. He was crushed by a USC team yeah but that USC team was an all-time great, vastly superior to us, played at home in SoCal, and we lost our best player on our opening drive. He was never whitewashed by squads that would struggle to field one starter on his team. He also beat a Miami squad that was being touted as the greatest College Football team of all-time.
I don't have anything against Urban personally I just think the genuflecting over him is un-deserved, and that his signature wins at OSU (2014 CFP) were lucked into by JT Barrett getting hurt. It also helped he was playing vs a true Frosh in the Finals. He would have lost to UM in 2017 if Barrett hadn't gotten hurt also.
I dunno why you guys have such a problem with a critical take on Urban. His tenure here had some warts on it. Namely his stubbornness to bench JT for better options, and his inexplicable losses to inferior squads. I'm not crying about his 31-0 loss to Clemson, they were a better team. I'm not even crying about his other loss to Clemson, hey everyone loses a game or three. But the theme of losses to worse teams, VTech at home, MSU with a backup QB at home, IOWA, PURDUE, are baffling and stand out to me. We've seen Dabo and Swinney both bench incumbent QBs for better options, and look where that has gotten them.
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Post by buckeyekid on Jan 4, 2019 18:06:35 GMT -5
I honestly hold both in high esteem. Both won Nattys. Both owned Michigan. Both took over Poop show situations and fixed em right away. Both coaches did great work here during the last 17 years. Read someplace that during the last 20 years, nobody has won more games in Major College Football than OSU.
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Post by ronburgandy on Jan 4, 2019 21:22:03 GMT -5
Now there’s rumors that Corey Raymond, LSU’s db Coach, could be joining Ohio state’s staff. That would be a huge hire.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 4, 2019 21:40:49 GMT -5
No, no...those of your ilk blamed a QB for the @ IOWA loss, why wasn't a QB at fault for the @ PUR loss? Are you trying to blame Haskins for the Purdue loss? The kid threw for 470 yards vs Purdue. <iframe width="25.539999999999964" height="4.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 25.539999999999964px; height: 4.840000000000003px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_27761323" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="25.539999999999964" height="4.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 25.54px; height: 4.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1215px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_13296849" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="25.539999999999964" height="4.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 25.54px; height: 4.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 181px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_91860587" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="25.539999999999964" height="4.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 25.54px; height: 4.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1215px; top: 181px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_66230504" scrolling="no"></iframe> Looking for who to blame. In the @ IOWA loss, several were adamant about who was to blame. There wasn't a whisper of what individual player was to blame for the @ PUR loss,
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Post by buckeyekid on Jan 5, 2019 7:12:16 GMT -5
Speaking of the Iowa loss last season,,,,one play did happen that absolutely had a big part in the loss. Game is tied with about 2 minutes before half. Iowa is on the OSU 45 or something and facing a 3rd and 8,,,their QB is under pressure by our rushmen package and throws it out of bounds and they are forced to punt and OSU will get the ball back. Except, Nick Bosa unnecesarrily head butts the Iowa QB and a triple wammy happens. Bosa gets tossed. Iowa now is 1st and ten with the ball. Next play or 2 they score a TD. Was a huge huge turning point in the game,,because JT on the 1st or 2nd play after getting the kickoff throws a forced pick 6,,,OSU goes intp the half down 14 instead of tied. In my mind,,,that dumb play by Bosa set off a chain of events that day.Down 14 and Not having Bosa in the 2nd half,,,killed us.
If nothing else, it shows how a single play can impact a game, in a pretty big way.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 6, 2019 2:10:37 GMT -5
I'm not saying they had more success, although Tress's success imho was equal to Urban's. He was crushed by a USC team yeah but that USC team was an all-time great, vastly superior to us, played at home in SoCal, and we lost our best player on our opening drive. He was never whitewashed by squads that would struggle to field one starter on his team. He also beat a Miami squad that was being touted as the greatest College Football team of all-time. I don't have anything against Urban personally I just think the genuflecting over him is un-deserved, and that his signature wins at OSU (2014 CFP) were lucked into by JT Barrett getting hurt. It also helped he was playing vs a true Frosh in the Finals. He would have lost to UM in 2017 if Barrett hadn't gotten hurt also. I dunno why you guys have such a problem with a critical take on Urban. His tenure here had some warts on it. Namely his stubbornness to bench JT for better options, and his inexplicable losses to inferior squads. I'm not crying about his 31-0 loss to Clemson, they were a better team. I'm not even crying about his other loss to Clemson, hey everyone loses a game or three. But the theme of losses to worse teams, VTech at home, MSU with a backup QB at home, IOWA, PURDUE, are baffling and stand out to me. We've seen Dabo and Swinney both bench incumbent QBs for better options, and look where that has gotten them. VTECH?? Surely you jest. Tell us the QB story for that game. Didn't your source at Ohio State tell you all of the issues Simba had last year? Not going to workouts with Coach Mick. Not doing film study like the other QBs. Not paying attention in practice to what the 1st team offense was doing, like other QBs did. No trust. Not until after Burrow broke his hand did he start caring. Tell us about that sideline pass again.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 6, 2019 2:16:11 GMT -5
Credit for dominating a mediocre conference and handicapping an entire program to a QB who got worse every year when they were better options? Mixing in a little nepotism along the way? Seems like you don't want to give him any blame for his awful showing @ PUR and @ IOWA. COME ON!! COME ONE!!! It used to be the Big Two and little eight.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 6, 2019 2:17:18 GMT -5
woah someone mistook a Viagra for Melatonin again! And you call yourself a Dr??
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 6, 2019 10:28:19 GMT -5
I'm not saying they had more success, although Tress's success imho was equal to Urban's. He was crushed by a USC team yeah but that USC team was an all-time great, vastly superior to us, played at home in SoCal, and we lost our best player on our opening drive. He was never whitewashed by squads that would struggle to field one starter on his team. He also beat a Miami squad that was being touted as the greatest College Football team of all-time. I don't have anything against Urban personally I just think the genuflecting over him is un-deserved, and that his signature wins at OSU (2014 CFP) were lucked into by JT Barrett getting hurt. It also helped he was playing vs a true Frosh in the Finals. He would have lost to UM in 2017 if Barrett hadn't gotten hurt also. I dunno why you guys have such a problem with a critical take on Urban. His tenure here had some warts on it. Namely his stubbornness to bench JT for better options, and his inexplicable losses to inferior squads. I'm not crying about his 31-0 loss to Clemson, they were a better team. I'm not even crying about his other loss to Clemson, hey everyone loses a game or three. But the theme of losses to worse teams, VTech at home, MSU with a backup QB at home, IOWA, PURDUE, are baffling and stand out to me. We've seen Dabo and Swinney both bench incumbent QBs for better options, and look where that has gotten them. VTECH?? Surely you jest. Tell us the QB story for that game. Didn't your source at Ohio State tell you all of the issues Simba had last year? Not going to workouts with Coach Mick. Not doing film study like the other QBs. Not paying attention in practice to what the 1st team offense was doing, like other QBs did. No trust. Not until after Burrow broke his hand did he start caring. Tell us about that sideline pass again. it's not like he was suspended eh? ;+) And from what I've heard about Haskins is that he is a film room/coverage/protection savant. I trust my sources more than I trust yours (probably Bleacher Report rofl). and my QB story for our 2014 loss to VTech is JT Barrett was 9/29 with 3 picks
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Post by ronburgandy on Jan 6, 2019 12:24:24 GMT -5
So back to the topic again...
Alex Gleitman with a very cryptic tweet earlier saying that he’s hearing there’s a lot of interesting names being thrown around as possible additions to Ohio State’s defensive staff, including names from other Big Ten schools.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2019 15:13:48 GMT -5
I wish they would just have one dc/oc. Yes, I know it’s a way to get guys paid more, but jumbles who’s in charcge and coaching duties
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 6, 2019 16:45:48 GMT -5
VTECH?? Surely you jest. Tell us the QB story for that game. Didn't your source at Ohio State tell you all of the issues Simba had last year? Not going to workouts with Coach Mick. Not doing film study like the other QBs. Not paying attention in practice to what the 1st team offense was doing, like other QBs did. No trust. Not until after Burrow broke his hand did he start caring. Tell us about that sideline pass again. it's not like he was suspended eh? ;+) And from what I've heard about Haskins is that he is a film room/coverage/protection savant. I trust my sources more than I trust yours (probably Bleacher Report rofl). and my QB story for our 2014 loss to VTech is JT Barrett was 9/29 with 3 picks Not until AFTER Burrow broke his hand. Who's your source? Do you know Coach J? The WHOLE QB story, 90% of which you block out. JT had not played in a game since the middle of his Senior year in high school. Spent a year+ rehabbing after major knew surgery. Braxton goes down 2 weeks before the first game. JT goes from 3rd string to starter one week before the first game. And is thrown to the wolves in the VaTECH game.
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 6, 2019 16:51:05 GMT -5
wah wah wah Haskins hadn't played until he came in and lit Michigan up, @ Ann Arbor
excuses excuses, same with Cowboy Craig Krentzel, he was a 3rd stringer until a series of unfortunate events put him in as a starter to fulfill Tressel's promise @ Ann Arbor
you and your excuses for JT, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain...it was a home game for Pete's sake
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 6, 2019 16:51:49 GMT -5
LOL THROWN TO THE WOLVES VTECH WAS IN MAN COVERAGE THE WHOLE GAME LOLOLOLZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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