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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 11, 2019 15:27:42 GMT -5
If it's who I'm thinking of he was more like 6-5. Over 200, but less than 250. Didn't he play for OSU, or was that another kid? If you guys are talking about Amstutz he hasn't weighed less than 250 since maybe middle school you need to add about 50-60lbs Read more carefully, gtab was asking me about a Galion player from the 70's.
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Post by fanofthegame on Feb 11, 2019 15:40:32 GMT -5
I’ll try to make my point another way. Remember I was making this point to show surprise that they are .500. I expected a lot better this year. Most teams around here have one guy in their starting lineup that’s marginal. His job is to play D, rebound, try not to turn the ball over on offense, and if looking at the basket uncontested make a shot. He’s a filler purely because he’s the next best guy, but he’s just OK. Maybe he’s a football or baseball first guy who just likes being a part of the team. He rarely picks up a basketball in the off season. IMO Shelby’s starting five could do those things and on any given night be a double digit scorer. Still interested to hear a resume. Crickets chirping. You have to answer the more pertinent questions I asked of you LONG before you asked yours. Step up. Just look for these "?". I will very diligently answer all your question marks if you will commit to answering my single query.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 11, 2019 16:08:30 GMT -5
JEOPARDY!!! What is impressive, exciting, intriguing and laughable. What is laughable is that for TEN YEARS you have refused to tell us how you know and talk to every coach and AD in a 10 country area. Do you sell janitorial supplies? I'm not giving my resume until you give us your job resume.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 11, 2019 16:13:42 GMT -5
You have to answer the more pertinent questions I asked of you LONG before you asked yours. Step up. Just look for these "?". I will very diligently answer all your question marks if you will commit to answering my single query. READ CAREFULLY. I did commit. Answer ALL of my questions, look through all of my posts, look for every "?". Answers must show due diligence and specifics. No BS accepted. BTW, are you a custodian in the Mansfield schools? If so I know who you are. You also have to make Dude give us his job resume. Since he doesn't have the nerve to read my posts. Thus he's able to insult and put down with impunity.
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Post by fanofthegame on Feb 11, 2019 16:44:37 GMT -5
Wow, there were a lot.
Amstutz RPG? I don’t know. Amstutz diving on the floor? Probably at some point. Part of the Red Rage? No Are you best at judging a team when they play against Ontario? Probably...makes sense. Why isn’t Amstutz play basketball in college? Probably because he barely picks up a b-ball in the off season. If he dedicated himself year around to basketball from the start he probably could have played D3. We’ll never know. Is there anyone who believes what I believe? Probably. I’d have to ask around. Who would Stephens replace on a long list of teams? I’d have to watch one game for most of the teams you listed. As I mentioned in a recent post I can usually find a liability on every team and I don’t think he’s a liability. What coach would start Amstutz? I’d say quite a few would be happy to have his size on the floor. Again, I wouldn’t put him in Shelby’s top five and neither does Schwemley now. Why don’t they have a better record if they’re all stars? Underachieviment.
I thinks that’s all. Your turn.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 11, 2019 17:18:59 GMT -5
That's not close. You missed the most important ones
"I don't know" is not an acceptable answer, do the required research.
"Probably at some point" is another of your guesses, do the research. You're making up stuff. I never said anything about Ontario. The question asked was. Isn't the best comparison as to who is the better player come when those players play against each other?
Ask around, I'll make it easy, find them on here. Then you won't have to embarrass them and give their names.
See, that's the problem with your supposition. It is IMPOSSIBLE for you to say "all teams", now it's "most", have a "liability" when you have ZERO knowledge if they do. Stephens and Amstutz were "liabilities" last week against Ontario's 3 guards and they're 2 Sophomores and a Junior. Stephens and Amstutz are Seniors. But that's not fair EVERY average player has several "liability" games a year, thus you must witness multiple games, before your claim can be justified.
There was a reason that Amstutz didn't start the last game. Did he play? How do you know he won't be in the starting lineup again?
Why would ANY coach want underachievers on his team, they are a cancer. You have witnessed how some of your All-Stars have caused a cancer to spread. THAT alone disqualifies them as replacements and proves your claims of why these players should start for every team in the area...OOPS....it's now most.
AGAIN, you MUST answer the question of why any of those three players you're selling as very good players, can start for those teams I listed. Without specifics of who and why, you haven't answered my questions and you have FAILED to prove your outlandish claims.
Do you want me to answer your question in the same sloppy unprofessional manner you answered mine? That would be insulting for me to do so.
Back to work or admit your bad judgement, in either case I'll give my "resume".....It not walk away.
Did you miss my question about your job?
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Post by fanofthegame on Feb 11, 2019 18:12:50 GMT -5
I figured you’d bail. I almost predicted it. No biggie. Your silence speaks volumes.
You don’t even remember your own points. You said wouldn’t a fan best judge of another team be when that team played against his own. I agreed in my response. See, I can acknowledge when you make a good point.
How can I honestly answer if Amstutz has ever dove. I would say yes, probably. I haven’t seen every game he’s played.
I missed the question about my work. There were quite a few. My test was easier and you won’t even attempt it.
I’m officially bored with this now. You’ll take that as a win because you need such things to feel adequate. You can have it Willie. I don’t need it.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 11, 2019 19:15:58 GMT -5
I'm not bailing, you are, using being bored as an excuse for your claim proven wrong.
You don't even go back and read what posts say. These were my EXACT words, "There is no better way to judge how players compare against each other then when their TEAMS play against each other. You were untruthful, I said NOTHING about "fans", I said NOTHING about "his own'.
What kind of person would make these claims about this All-Star Shelby team when they haven't seen every game? I've seen 95% of Balogh's 770 games. A part of any sound resume.
We had a deal, you were unable hold up your end. Admit you were wrong about your claim that Stephens and Amstuts would start for "all" teams in the area, then changed to "most" and I'll answer your question. At this point that's an easy thing to do for a HUGE concession on my part. Just to get what you desire.
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Post by dude on Feb 11, 2019 20:48:12 GMT -5
I figured you’d bail. I almost predicted it. No biggie. Your silence speaks volumes. You figured correct. Silence on the resume would tell you he has never been out of the bleachers but questions your opinion as an experienced coach. WtF lives to win internet arguments because in the real game of life he has never accomplished anything on the field or the coaching sideline. BUt he values attaching himself to his favorite coach's hip. Block him and end the boredom.
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Post by fanofthegame on Feb 12, 2019 6:20:31 GMT -5
I'm not bailing, you are, using being bored as an excuse for your claim proven wrong. You don't even go back and read what posts say. These were my EXACT words, "There is no better way to judge how players compare against each other then when their TEAMS play against each other. You were untruthful, I said NOTHING about "fans", I said NOTHING about "his own'. What kind of person would make these claims about this All-Star Shelby team when they haven't seen every game? I've seen 95% of Balogh's 770 games. A part of any sound resume. We had a deal, you were unable hold up your end. Admit you were wrong about your claim that Stephens and Amstuts would start for "all" teams in the area, then changed to "most" and I'll answer your question. At this point that's an easy thing to do for a HUGE concession on my part. Just to get what you desire. 1. One thing is for sure. I know better than you when I’m bored. The conversation was getting boring, but you made some new points in this post. 2. Paraphrasing means restating something in different words without changing the content. That’s exactly what I did. Are you on the spectrum? 3. The person who actually plays basketball against the kids not just sits in the stands and watches them. 4. I don’t “desire” (see that...quote not paraphrase) your response to my question. I’d think you would want to answer it to try to lend credibility to your arguments unless your resume would do the opposite. State it or not. Your choice.
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