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Post by GHS 1999 on Aug 27, 2016 13:28:33 GMT -5
This game should be a dandy! This is the first time these teams have matched up. Both are 1-0 with Cardington defeating Worthington Christian 49-13 and Galion defeating Bucyrus 49-7. This also marks the first and only time Galion will have crossed over into the blue division for a non conference game. In fact the only blue division team Galion has ever played is Mt. Gilead. Thoughts on this one.....
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Post by galiontiger on Aug 27, 2016 13:59:14 GMT -5
If we play the way we played against Bucyrus, gang-tackling, good blocking on the offense line, mixing up the plays, we will be have a chance to win. I look for this to be a high-scoring game "IF" we can produce on offense. If not, it's gonna be a high-scoring game for them. ha! We have to be able to limit that big running back they have and not let their quarterback kill us with his scrambling and finding that one receiver deep. I know they will hit those big plays, but we got to have some big plays too in stopping their deep passes. It's going to be a great game is my prediction. I'm telling you we truly have a shot to win this one. I'm picking Galion, of course.
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Post by usa70pp on Aug 27, 2016 15:23:49 GMT -5
Box score in the Star showed Cardington QB completed 14 of 16 passes in the game with Worthington Christian. Problem was that 5 of them were to players in the wrong color jersey.
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Post by moacfootballfan on Aug 27, 2016 17:22:35 GMT -5
Let's not make them better than they are but also not think of our own team as better than they are. I see a competitive game, could go either way.
Just to early in the season to evaluate anyone based on one game against overmatched opponents.
But i'll be there hoping for a Galion win.
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Post by stanley on Aug 28, 2016 10:33:54 GMT -5
I think we know both offenses have the potential to get rolling, both teams have more than respectable passing games. I think this one comes down to who's defense can out perform the other and who can seem to put more pressure on the others QB. Tough task defensively for both teams, I'm going to go ahead and go with Cardington 49-35 in this one.
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Post by pirate80 on Aug 28, 2016 15:37:08 GMT -5
Box score in the Star showed Cardington QB completed 14 of 16 passes in the game with Worthington Christian. Problem was that 5 of them were to players in the wrong color jersey. That was a misprint then. He threw no interceptions. He did throw for five scores and run for one though.
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Post by galiontiger on Aug 28, 2016 19:22:51 GMT -5
My son only threw for one touchdown and got intercepted on one pass last Friday, so Cardington has a HUGE advantage over us. Cardington is a team that can't be stopped, 5 touchdown passes thrown??? How will our team, a team of such young inexperienced players, ever compete with (as one person put it) "The best Cardington team ever!!!"? We won't be able to throw against that stout defense nor will be able to run against that fearsome defensive line. It will probably be over in the first quarter. We might as well not even show up.
Yeah! I'm probably going to go with Galion 42 - Cardington 35. Serious though, I will agree with Stanley its going to come down to who can contain the other's quarterback and put pressure on him.
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Post by usa70pp on Aug 28, 2016 19:33:45 GMT -5
Box score in the Star showed Cardington QB completed 14 of 16 passes in the game with Worthington Christian. Problem was that 5 of them were to players in the wrong color jersey. That was a misprint then. He threw no interceptions. He did throw for five scores and run for one though. That is what I thought at first also. Even though it was labeled Comp - Att- Int, 9-16-5, but when WC was 17-29-3 and they only scored 13 points, I knew they didn't have 3 TD passes, a conundrum as it were.
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Post by pirate80 on Aug 28, 2016 22:15:21 GMT -5
My son only threw for one touchdown and got intercepted on one pass last Friday, so Cardington has a HUGE advantage over us. Cardington is a team that can't be stopped, 5 touchdown passes thrown??? How will our team, a team of such young inexperienced players, ever compete with (as one person put it) "The best Cardington team ever!!!"? We won't be able to throw against that stout defense nor will be able to run against that fearsome defensive line. It will probably be over in the first quarter. We might as well not even show up. Yeah! I'm probably going to go with Galion 42 - Cardington 35. Serious though, I will agree with Stanley its going to come down to who can contain the other's quarterback and put pressure on him. Calm down brother. I haven't seen a single person make any of those statements about Cardington that you just did. All things considered, Galion should be favored. They are a much larger school. I expect a very good game but am obviously pulling for my alma mater. Go Pirates!
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Post by galion on Aug 29, 2016 3:57:11 GMT -5
D5 vs a D6? I wouldn't say much larger. I would agree that under normal circumstances we should be favored, however I'm not sure that these are normal circumstances. I would say that if your All-Ohio receiver doesn't go off against us he never will. Heck, we made the kid from BV last year look like an All-American. We even left the slower Bucyrus receivers roam unmolested through our secondary last week. We better have the kinks out of our passing game and be ready to score in bunches.
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Post by usa70pp on Aug 29, 2016 4:22:07 GMT -5
55 more boys to draw from for Galion. 163 to 108 according to OHSAA
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Post by galiontiger on Aug 29, 2016 5:16:53 GMT -5
Galion...exactly. The Cardington receivers are probably going to go off on our secondary, but I will say this with our speed in the secondary..all 3 track stars are back there. They could be a shutdown secondary if they could just figure out how to do it. They are going to get better as the season goes on. I hope it starts this Friday. We are going to have some interceptions this week too I'm hoping.
I don't see as a being the favorite. There's no way we should be. The Cardington team looks good and has proven it all scrimmage and season long. We only beat a weak team at home. Now if we go into Cardington and get a win, I'll start believing more. We are only going to get better. I watched a clip on Hudl of my boy, "BIG Show" (my son's best friend who went back out for football this year for Galion to play with my son, as a senior) running 25 yards down the field blocking for the running back who was on the 5-yard line getting ready to score a touchdown. That kid is 6'4" 280, if we get that kind of effort Friday night, we stand a chance to be competitive. We got a bunch of young kids who really got pumped up Friday. I saw a new team, but let's see if they can sustain the same intensity at a opposing team's stadium. It should be a good game, "if" we can "somewhat" contain that QB. If not, a quick game. We are definitely the underdogs in this one. I'm showing 99 kids on our team with only 15 seniors and 14 juniors.
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Post by galion on Aug 29, 2016 6:40:12 GMT -5
I hate scheduling teams like this. There's no upside to it. If you beat them you're supposed. If you don't then you're killing any positive momentum that you had going into the game. Yes, we should have a speed advantage but here's where those darned fundamentals come into play. The question is after their big gun how good are their other receivers? Do they have multiple threats? Or do some their receivers like to play patty cake with the ball like some of ours do? You can gameplan to take away one player if there isn't anyone else who can step up and make plays.
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Post by stanley on Aug 29, 2016 9:10:56 GMT -5
I don't think anyone's really "supposed" to win this one. Yeah I think Cardingtons going to, but I don't think it's so clear cut to where it would shock me if Galion won. This win is huge and should be celebrated for whoever wins it. I will say I think the winner of this one makes the playoffs. If Galion wins, Galion can probably get in with 6 wins. Actually the Cardington win was pretty much what got North Union into the playoffs with a 5-5 record last year. If Cardington wins this one, I see them having an 8-2 record at the very worse. Would say 7-3, but I'm not sure how I feel about the Freddie's this season anymore. I know Clear Forks respectable, but 42-7?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2016 9:27:03 GMT -5
Box score in the Star showed Cardington QB completed 14 of 16 passes in the game with Worthington Christian. Problem was that 5 of them were to players in the wrong color jersey. That's funny.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2016 9:35:46 GMT -5
I don't think anyone's really "supposed" to win this one. Yeah I think Cardingtons going to, but I don't think it's so clear cut to where it would shock me if Galion won. This win is huge and should be celebrated for whoever wins it. I will say I think the winner of this one makes the playoffs. If Galion wins, Galion can probably get in with 6 wins. Actually the Cardington win was pretty much what got North Union into the playoffs with a 5-5 record last year. If Cardington wins this one, I see them having an 8-2 record at the very worse. Would say 7-3, but I'm not sure how I feel about the Freddie's this season anymore. I know Clear Forks respectable, but 42-7? A friend went to this game and said that Fredericktown had not answer for Staab or the Clear Fork defense. He is not a true QB but by design the ball gets snapped to the most athletic player on the field for the Colts. Made multiple good runs out of busted plays.
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Post by galion on Aug 29, 2016 13:05:15 GMT -5
Ontario beat Fred in a scrimmage 3 scores to 0 didn't they?
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Post by galion on Aug 29, 2016 13:07:19 GMT -5
I think we know both offenses have the potential to get rolling, both teams have more than respectable passing games. I think this one comes down to who's defense can out perform the other and who can seem to put more pressure on the others QB. Tough task defensively for both teams, I'm going to go ahead and go with Cardington 49-35 in this one. I realize our defense has its issues but I have a hard time believing that we are as bad as Worthington Christian.
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Post by stanley on Aug 29, 2016 13:44:58 GMT -5
By no means do I think Galions defense is as bad as WCs. Cardington probably coasted offensively in the second half and they probably could have scored much more. By no means am I saying that the 49 I think they score on Galion is the same as the 49 they put on WC. They will put 49 on Galion trying to score as many as they can because that game is going to be four quarters of football. They put 49 on WC sure, but that wasn't four quarters of football. That was about 2 and a half quarters of football. Maybe.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 29, 2016 17:07:00 GMT -5
I don't think anyone's really "supposed" to win this one. Yeah I think Cardingtons going to, but I don't think it's so clear cut to where it would shock me if Galion won. This win is huge and should be celebrated for whoever wins it. I will say I think the winner of this one makes the playoffs. If Galion wins, Galion can probably get in with 6 wins. Actually the Cardington win was pretty much what got North Union into the playoffs with a 5-5 record last year. If Cardington wins this one, I see them having an 8-2 record at the very worse. Would say 7-3, but I'm not sure how I feel about the Freddie's this season anymore. I know Clear Forks respectable, but 42-7? A friend went to this game and said that Fredericktown had not answer for Staab or the Clear Fork defense. He is not a true QB but by design the ball gets snapped to the most athletic player on the field for the Colts. Made multiple good runs out of busted plays. Shouldn't Madison be doing that with Aijan?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 29, 2016 17:09:40 GMT -5
D5 vs a D6? I wouldn't say much larger. I would agree that under normal circumstances we should be favored, however I'm not sure that these are normal circumstances. I would say that if your All-Ohio receiver doesn't go off against us he never will. Heck, we made the kid from BV last year look like an All-American. We even left the slower Bucyrus receivers roam unmolested through our secondary last week. We better have the kinks out of our passing game and be ready to score in bunches. Does Galion's new HC have his DBs playing a lot of soft zone or man coverage?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 29, 2016 17:15:02 GMT -5
I don't think anyone's really "supposed" to win this one. Yeah I think Cardingtons going to, but I don't think it's so clear cut to where it would shock me if Galion won. This win is huge and should be celebrated for whoever wins it. I will say I think the winner of this one makes the playoffs. If Galion wins, Galion can probably get in with 6 wins. Actually the Cardington win was pretty much what got North Union into the playoffs with a 5-5 record last year. If Cardington wins this one, I see them having an 8-2 record at the very worse. Would say 7-3, but I'm not sure how I feel about the Freddie's this season anymore. I know Clear Forks respectable, but 42-7? A friend went to this game and said that Fredericktown had not answer for Staab or the Clear Fork defense. He is not a true QB but by design the ball gets snapped to the most athletic player on the field for the Colts. Made multiple good runs out of busted plays. Is Staab's best sport is baseball?
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Post by galiontiger on Aug 29, 2016 18:31:25 GMT -5
All I'm saying to this game is our secondary will get better with each game...watch and see. If our offensive line plays close to what they did against Bucyrus, this is going to be a close and high scoring game. That's "if" Cardington doesn't get a mad pass rush going for them. We honestly never really had to throw against Bucyrus. We were getting 5 to 6 yards every rush. I'm sure we won't do that against Cardington. This game for me is such a questionable one, because you really don't know how Galion will perform. Was their performance against Bucyrus just a great one against a very weak opponent. Will this last game awaken a new BEAST in Galion that will be force to reckon with from here on out? We know Cardington will put up mad passing yards. That's a gimme.
Our game plan should be to try and establish the run and wear those suckers out. Play the game for 4 quarters and burn the clock. Man! I really give our coach credit on how he set that game up..threw a bomb on the first play of the game. It didn't work, but I think psychologically it softens the secondary. Then he ran Chase (my son) on a few plays. This really allowed our running game to take off on the next series with our 2 running backs. It worked perfectly. We haven't got our passing game down yet. When we do...watch out. We are going to be explosive like I've been saying all pre-season long. I'm so excited about this Friday. I love watching great football. This is going to be one of those games. We are going there to send a message to the league. .....I hope.
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Post by galion on Aug 29, 2016 18:46:55 GMT -5
You don't send any messages to anyone by beating Cardington. WF I'm hoping that it was a zone because if they were trying to play man like that we really are in trouble.
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Post by galiontiger on Aug 29, 2016 19:29:15 GMT -5
Hmmmm! Beating a team that is suppose to go 8-2, and most people are predicting to beat you (go in and check everyone's pic on the MOAC), I'd say that's sending a slight message. I mean who do we need to beat then? What would you have to do..beat a Jonathan Alder "half-way" thru the season? It's a little late then I would think. If we beat Cardington 55-24? Is that sending a message? 68-14? Would that be sending a message?
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Post by galiontiger on Aug 29, 2016 19:32:16 GMT -5
You bust on our secondary a little too much considering they gave up "0" points. Now do we need to work on our secondary...Hell Yeah! We do, but until we get scorched in a game by the pass, lets give them a little credit. I'll probably be eating my words after this game. But right now I'm gonna stick up for my boys, they are pitching a shut out.
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Post by stanley on Aug 29, 2016 19:49:44 GMT -5
I'm struggling to see who exactly is "busting" on Galions secondary. I've seen a lot of talk of positive praise to both teams quarterbacks and thus being the reason people are expecting a lot of points.
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Post by galiontiger on Aug 29, 2016 19:57:52 GMT -5
Stanley....all by Galion...
"WF I'm hoping that it was a zone because if they were trying to play man like that we really are in trouble."
" I would say that if your All-Ohio receiver doesn't go off against us he never will. Heck, we made the kid from BV last year look like an All-American. We even left the slower Bucyrus receivers roam unmolested through our secondary last week."
That doesn't sound like a ringing endorsement from him. haha! Not entirely "not true", but again Bucyrus scored "0" points against our 1st team secondary for a whole half. I wouldn't say that's our secondary just letting them run unmolested through our secondary. We even had an interception and should have been two. I just say lets give them a little credit. I'm not hearing any.
Yes, you are right about the qb's and the teams in general..very positive.
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Post by stanley on Aug 29, 2016 20:06:05 GMT -5
Ok, understood
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Post by galion on Aug 29, 2016 21:24:44 GMT -5
Hmmmm! Beating a team that is suppose to go 8-2, and most people are predicting to beat you (go in and check everyone's pic on the MOAC), I'd say that's sending a slight message. I mean who do we need to beat then? What would you have to do..beat a Jonathan Alder "half-way" thru the season? It's a little late then I would think. If we beat Cardington 55-24? Is that sending a message? 68-14? Would that be sending a message? You don't send a message to D2, 3, and 4 teams by beating a D 6 school that any team who wants to finish at or near the top of the red division should be able to man handle. What passes for good at the D 6 level does not necessarily pass for good at higher levels. Cardington is not Wynford. No offense meant to Cardington. Let them pick who they want. I'm not picking Cardington. If we can't beat a D6 school that we have more size and speed than then we have serious issues.
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