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Post by sportsjock on Apr 21, 2019 12:16:13 GMT -5
i dunno if you guys know this or not but...we have a backup QB on our roster just throwing that out there You're right, but a backup by default. Do we have a backup that we can count on, to throw in there when our starter comes hobbling off the field and the games on the line?
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Post by DrTorch on Apr 21, 2019 13:13:42 GMT -5
we don't know if Martell or Baldwin was that guy either
we might not need to find out
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Apr 21, 2019 14:33:20 GMT -5
A Ruski, West By God Virginia. Also a much lower ranking walk on
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Post by sportsjock on Apr 21, 2019 15:25:21 GMT -5
As the power programs in NCAA football run into increasingly more difficulty, due to backups opting for the transfer portal, I can see this rule being revised or eliminated at some point.
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Post by DrTorch on Apr 21, 2019 15:34:36 GMT -5
i can't
nothing has been changed to let kid's transfer now they are just more lenient
i mean if you go to a school to play for a HC who then retires you should be allowed to transfer immediately
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Post by sportsjock on Apr 21, 2019 20:11:29 GMT -5
i can't nothing has been changed to let kid's transfer now they are just more lenient i mean if you go to a school to play for a HC who then retires you should be allowed to transfer immediately I agree, but there is always two sides to any story.
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Post by redskinfan04 on Apr 21, 2019 20:25:18 GMT -5
i can't nothing has been changed to let kid's transfer now they are just more lenient i mean if you go to a school to play for a HC who then retires you should be allowed to transfer immediately There were changes to the rules 2-3 years ago that allowed this level of transfer. Prior to that change blatant playing time transfers like Fields and Martell wouldn’t have happened. These changes will be reviewed this summer by the NCAA. Sportsjock is correct that the ncaa isn’t going to let the power programs flounder.
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Post by DrTorch on Apr 21, 2019 20:45:00 GMT -5
they aren't going to hold kids to a higher standard than coaches anymore either, and nothing has changed in the wording recently that would have merited Martell transferring except the NCAA's recently discovered leniency
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Post by DrTorch on Apr 21, 2019 20:46:08 GMT -5
i can't nothing has been changed to let kid's transfer now they are just more lenient i mean if you go to a school to play for a HC who then retires you should be allowed to transfer immediately I agree, but there is always two sides to any story. no one cares about the greedy NCAA's side of the story, or coaches that can leave whenever they want for wherever they want without repercussions
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Post by sportsjock on Apr 22, 2019 10:10:19 GMT -5
I agree, but there is always two sides to any story. no one cares about the greedy NCAA's side of the story, or coaches that can leave whenever they want for wherever they want without repercussions Most of us understood this convoluted form of free agency was going to put a wrench into the system of operation and organization, but we are just now, finding it's potentially, devestating effects on maintaining a football program in a smooth and predictable fashion.
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Post by DrTorch on Apr 22, 2019 16:10:49 GMT -5
why is giving power to adults to make decisions for themselves convoluted?
you are one weird cat dude
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Post by sportsjock on Apr 22, 2019 16:42:36 GMT -5
why is giving power to adults to make decisions for themselves convoluted? you are one weird cat dude Obvious, we don't agree on the what the parameter of the rules should be. Having a difference of opinion doesn't make me weird, nor does it make you weird. I doubt if you would find a single coach give an honest opinion on the subject, because they fully understand it's a balancing act, that misinterpretation could be viewed negatively by some players and recruits.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Apr 22, 2019 17:53:28 GMT -5
i can't nothing has been changed to let kid's transfer now they are just more lenient i mean if you go to a school to play for a HC who then retires you should be allowed to transfer immediately All that's needed is to recant the "leniency". Baseball and basketball are always varying "leniency" by suggesting rules should be followed more closely.
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Post by DrTorch on Apr 22, 2019 22:47:16 GMT -5
Things aren't trending in that direction. The old regime is moving on. Guys like Jim Delaney are retiring, it's a kindler gentler nation inside the Transfer Portal. Just fire up the closest internet machine, turn on the line, and hit the google button man. Get'r'done.
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Post by sportsjock on Apr 23, 2019 7:21:23 GMT -5
Things aren't trending in that direction. The old regime is moving on. Guys like Jim Delaney are retiring, it's a kindler gentler nation inside the Transfer Portal. Just fire up the closest internet machine, turn on the line, and hit the google button man. Get'r'done. I think the NCAA and certainly the major athletic programs know by now, they've created a monster with the transfer portal provision. I really like the 5th year senior rule. It opens up opportunities for good players that have basically played in the shadows as backups, finally get one last opportunity to display their talents.
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Post by DrTorch on Apr 23, 2019 9:00:00 GMT -5
overreaction
you weren't up in arms over Fields transferring TO OSU but now that kids are transferring out it's a "monster"?
hmmm
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Post by sportsjock on Apr 23, 2019 9:02:31 GMT -5
overreaction you weren't up in arms over Fields transferring TO OSU but now that kids are transferring out it's a "monster"? hmmm Simply an objective viewpoint, Fields included.
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Post by DrTorch on Apr 23, 2019 10:33:54 GMT -5
you don't seem very objective
i think objective would say let the kids do what is in their best interest?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Apr 23, 2019 18:41:57 GMT -5
If there was an NCAA Rule that stated all athletes could do anything they deemed was in their "best interest". College sports as we know them would be over.
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Post by sportsjock on Apr 23, 2019 19:25:54 GMT -5
If there was an NCAA Rule that stated all athletes could do anything they deemed was in their "best interest". College sports as we know them would be over. I was thinking the very same thing.
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Post by DrTorch on Apr 23, 2019 21:49:46 GMT -5
If there was an NCAA Rule that stated all athletes could do anything they deemed was in their "best interest". College sports as we know them would be over. That would not be a bad thing. The NCAA is a horrible institution. Hell the IOC looks down on them.
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Post by maplecityjake on Apr 24, 2019 6:51:55 GMT -5
The IOC?. Ok, I confess, that made me LOL.
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Post by redskinfan04 on Apr 24, 2019 11:57:35 GMT -5
More bad press for OSU with Larry Johnson getting snared up in yesterday’s bombshell from the court hearings. Michigan fan or not I kind of feel bad for LJ. Some decade old drama creeps up to spoil the twilight of his career.
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Post by DrTorch on Apr 24, 2019 16:28:42 GMT -5
UM was on that list too boss.
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Post by redskinfan04 on Apr 24, 2019 18:14:21 GMT -5
UM was on that list too boss. Outside the NCAA statute of limitations which means no worries homie.
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Post by DrTorch on Apr 24, 2019 19:01:41 GMT -5
Way to be lolz.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Apr 25, 2019 12:09:04 GMT -5
If there was an NCAA Rule that stated all athletes could do anything they deemed was in their "best interest". College sports as we know them would be over. That would not be a bad thing. The NCAA is a horrible institution. Hell the IOC looks down on them. What does the NCAA being a "horrible institution" have to do with today's college free agency? Other than their "horrible" sitting on their hands without modifying the rules and being specific about when and how athletes can transfer, without having to sit out a year. This is a much newer and completely different situation then some realize. Their thoughts might be different if they ponder the scenario that Ohio State undoubtedly never wins the first NCAA football Four Team Playoff, just 5 years ago. If Braxton Miller never has shoulder injuries and is Ohio State's QB starter for 2 more years, does JT sit for an addition 2 years waiting his turn? Unlikely by today's QB standards. BUT if JT did stay, there's no way Hero Cardale stays at Ohio State seeing that he will never start a game at Ohio State. Just 5 years ago, QB's never thought about making up reasons why they MUST transfer. No football Championship for Ohio state in 2014. Only Head Coaches in the mold of NicK Saban, avoid this issue. Obviously last year during spring practice and summer camp he told Jason Hurts he was neck and neck with Tagovailola to regain the starting job, when all along he knew Tua was his starter. The ONLY way he could keep a very good back on his team. Just the opposite is Urban Meyer and Ryan Day, who held the best interests of their QB's over what was best for their team. Urban could have lied and told Burrow and Haskins they were neck and neck for the starting QB job, until it was too late for Burrow to transfer. The same this year, when Day let Baldwin know he was going to be the back up.
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Post by DrTorch on Apr 25, 2019 13:04:25 GMT -5
they still have to have a reason to transfer boss
it's not Free Agency
another tired, self-serving, terrible analogy by Fillmore
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Apr 25, 2019 23:44:21 GMT -5
they still have to have a reason to transfer boss it's not Free Agency another tired, self-serving, terrible analogy by Fillmore Underling, what is a tired, self serving and a terrible analogy is calling it a "reason". Truthfully "reason" is more like a search for and discovered excuse. I found it hard to believe the NCAA approved Field's excuse for a transfer due to ONE drunk racist baseball player in the stands at ONE football game. We all know The Truth was not wanting to sit behind Fromm. I bet every black college kid has heard a racial slur at least once, athlete or not. AND it would have come from a lot closer and easier to hear than one individual in a football stadium of 100,000 people. With that precedent being set. How much money would it cost an athlete to pay a student in the stands to call you a racists name so you could transfer and play right away? 90% of the football players in the country could use the excuse of wanting to be closer to home, that Baldwin used. Even you know that was a lie. He didn't want to sit behind Fields for 2 years. Is THE TRUTH of not wanting to be 2nd string for 2 years an excuse allowed by the NCAA for a transfer...without having to sit a year? With what QB's are doing these days, even Cardale would have been smart enough to use the excuse of Tressel no longer being the head coach for getting somewhere he could be a starter.
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Post by DrTorch on Apr 26, 2019 1:47:03 GMT -5
^^ ROFL ^^
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