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Post by bigboy97 on Mar 10, 2019 14:43:05 GMT -5
1 team from the FC makes it to regional and can hopefully represent the conference well. Anyone know much about NM Springfield, just looked at schedule but not that sure of opponents.
Winner will play winner of Richmond heights vs. Bristol
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Post by fcexpert on Mar 10, 2019 15:29:02 GMT -5
New Middletown Springfields losses do not seem like they were too that impressive teams also saw another person say whoever won the cc vs sc game was going to have an easier regional semi game then each of their district games.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2019 15:48:23 GMT -5
New Middletown Springfields losses do not seem like they were too that impressive teams also saw another person say whoever won the cc vs sc game was going to have an easier regional semi game then each of their district games. Doesnt make that statement necessarily true |
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Mar 11, 2019 16:21:56 GMT -5
Painting with a broad brush, I do not recall teams from this part of the state ever being particularly remarkable on the regional level. This could be because they run into the Villa Angela St. Joe's and Cornerstone Christians of the world. They are certainly an inferior class of talent when it comes to football.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 18:09:52 GMT -5
Painting with a broad brush, I do not recall teams from this part of the state ever being particularly remarkable on the regional level. This could be because they run into the Villa Angela St. Joe's and Cornerstone Christians of the world. They are certainly an inferior class of talent when it comes to football. with that being said when was the last time the Willard/Galion District winner made it to Columbus? St Paul in ‘97? |
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Post by bigboy97 on Mar 12, 2019 7:49:29 GMT -5
Gameday for the Trojans as they play in Canton at 8pm. Im pretty sure I saw that WLKR will be at the game live on radio. Hopefully the Firelands conference and Huron county can continue to survive and advance
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Mar 12, 2019 8:24:46 GMT -5
Painting with a broad brush, I do not recall teams from this part of the state ever being particularly remarkable on the regional level. This could be because they run into the Villa Angela St. Joe's and Cornerstone Christians of the world. They are certainly an inferior class of talent when it comes to football. with that being said when was the last time the Willard/Galion District winner made it to Columbus? St Paul in ‘97? I actually had this discussion with a friend a while back. Over a 19-year window: Local D3 teams have only won regional games in three separate seasons, going 6-18 overall. Clear Fork winning state in 2002 helped with this. In those 6 wins, the average margin of victory is 7 points, and the average margin of defeat in the 18 losses is 14. D4, while having no regional champ like Clear Fork in 2002, still performs somewhat similarly, going 6-21 over the past 19 seasons at the regional level (those 21 losses in 19 seasons is a result of the occasional year when our local area is split into multiple districts). The average margin of victory is 17, the average margin of defeat is 14. If we are assuming a perfectly neutral situation, then each district feeding into a regional should win about 25% of regional semi games over time. It appears our area is actually capable of getting pretty close to that mark. Regional Finals are a different story. So yeah, we perform OK at the Regional Semi level, but with no Regional Titles in D4 in any recent memory is a hassle. BUT, my hypothesis is that the northwest Ohio regionals are simply tougher than northeast Ohio, outside of the private schools stomping around up there. My gut tells, if I were a South Central fan, to take New Middletown Springfield as an opponent over Convoy Crestview or Wayne Trace or any other team in the Northwest every single time. |
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Post by bigboy97 on Mar 12, 2019 9:22:40 GMT -5
Plymouth had Wayne trace beat a couple years ago in the Regional Semis at BGSU but couldnt make free throws to seal it and lost in ot. Same story with St Peters, They had Delphos St Johns beat and couldnt make free throws down the stretch to get to columbus. in the past 5 years the willard district winner has at least had chances to get to columbus but just couldnt finish. Hopefully this year will be different.
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Post by dude on Mar 12, 2019 9:56:13 GMT -5
I'm sure there have been many teams that COULD HAVE won.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 10:20:57 GMT -5
with that being said when was the last time the Willard/Galion District winner made it to Columbus? St Paul in ‘97? I actually had this discussion with a friend a while back. Over a 19-year window: Local D3 teams have only won regional games in three separate seasons, going 6-18 overall. Clear Fork winning state in 2002 helped with this. In those 6 wins, the average margin of victory is 7 points, and the average margin of defeat in the 18 losses is 14. D4, while having no regional champ like Clear Fork in 2002, still performs somewhat similarly, going 6-21 over the past 19 seasons at the regional level (those 21 losses in 19 seasons is a result of the occasional year when our local area is split into multiple districts). The average margin of victory is 17, the average margin of defeat is 14. If we are assuming a perfectly neutral situation, then each district feeding into a regional should win about 25% of regional semi games over time. It appears our area is actually capable of getting pretty close to that mark. Regional Finals are a different story. So yeah, we perform OK at the Regional Semi level, but with no Regional Titles in D4 in any recent memory is a hassle. BUT, my hypothesis is that the northwest Ohio regionals are simply tougher than northeast Ohio, outside of the private schools stomping around up there. My gut tells me to take New Middletown Springfield over Convoy Crestview or Wayne Trace or any other team in the Northwest every single time. interesting stats. Do you mean to not take New Middletown Springfield against Convoy Crestview? |
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Mar 12, 2019 12:31:59 GMT -5
I actually had this discussion with a friend a while back. Over a 19-year window: Local D3 teams have only won regional games in three separate seasons, going 6-18 overall. Clear Fork winning state in 2002 helped with this. In those 6 wins, the average margin of victory is 7 points, and the average margin of defeat in the 18 losses is 14. D4, while having no regional champ like Clear Fork in 2002, still performs somewhat similarly, going 6-21 over the past 19 seasons at the regional level (those 21 losses in 19 seasons is a result of the occasional year when our local area is split into multiple districts). The average margin of victory is 17, the average margin of defeat is 14. If we are assuming a perfectly neutral situation, then each district feeding into a regional should win about 25% of regional semi games over time. It appears our area is actually capable of getting pretty close to that mark. Regional Finals are a different story. So yeah, we perform OK at the Regional Semi level, but with no Regional Titles in D4 in any recent memory is a hassle. BUT, my hypothesis is that the northwest Ohio regionals are simply tougher than northeast Ohio, outside of the private schools stomping around up there. My gut tells me to take New Middletown Springfield over Convoy Crestview or Wayne Trace or any other team in the Northwest every single time. interesting stats. Do you mean to not take New Middletown Springfield against Convoy Crestview? I phrased myself poorly in my post. It is better expressed as: If I were a South Central fan, I would rather take New Middletown Springfield as an opponent than I would Convoy Crestview. If I were to take someone in a game between Springfield and Convoy Crestview, I would take Convoy Crestview. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 12:32:59 GMT -5
interesting stats. Do you mean to not take New Middletown Springfield against Convoy Crestview? I phrased myself poorly in my post. It is better expressed as: If I were a South Central fan, I would rather take New Middletown Springfield as an opponent than I would Convoy Crestview. If I were to take someone in a game between Springfield and Convoy Crestview, I would take Convoy Crestview. Agreed. I think Crestview is the best team in D4 with Hiland a close 2nd |
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Post by mcm1019 on Mar 12, 2019 18:39:49 GMT -5
Richmond Heights wins 66-34.
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Post by mcm1019 on Mar 12, 2019 20:49:31 GMT -5
South Central falls, 62-50.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 21:03:33 GMT -5
New Middletown Springfields losses do not seem like they were too that impressive teams also saw another person say whoever won the cc vs sc game was going to have an easier regional semi game then each of their district games. Doesnt make that statement necessarily true Unfortunately I was correct |
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Post by jmorgret07 on Mar 12, 2019 21:29:02 GMT -5
South Central 8-10-10-22 - 50
Springfield 12-10-16-24 - 62
South Central (21-5): 17-58 FG, 13-16 FT, 3-20 3pt (I. Seidel 3), 27 rebounds (Lamoreaux 6), 9 turnovers. Scoring: Simon Blair 5 5-5 15, Alex Holland 1 0-0 2, David Lamoreaux 5 2-6 12, Isaiah Seidel 5 5-5 18, Evan Legg 0 0-0 0, Sam Seidel 1 0-0 2, Tycen Cooper 0 0-0 0, Ethan Gifford 0 0-0 0, Blaine Wheeler 0 0-0 0.
Springfield (21-5): 22-51 FG, 17-21 FT, 1-14 3pt (Clark), 48 rebounds (Clark 20, Eynon 13), 13 turnovers. Scoring: Evan Ohlin 5 3-4 13, Drew Clark 5 2-3 13, Beau Brungard 0 2-2 2, Adam Wharry 2 0-0 4, Shane Eynon 9 6-8 24, Clay Medvec 1 4-4 6.
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Post by dude on Mar 13, 2019 5:10:20 GMT -5
Congratulations on a good season South Central.
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Post by buckeyekid on Mar 13, 2019 14:01:30 GMT -5
They raised the bar back up to 40 some years ago at SC. Great season for a young team,,,they'll be back in the thick of it next year too.
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Post by bigboy97 on Mar 16, 2019 11:50:45 GMT -5
Springfield lost to Richmond Heights 46-43.
The couple times I got to watch SC I thought Tuesday night against Springfield they didnt play very well. That could be Springfields defense, new venue what ever it may be but this shows how close they were to making it to columbus and how good the area is. Fun year for the area and onto baseball
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Post by giffiusmc74 on Oct 2, 2019 15:15:48 GMT -5
I don't believe SC played very well either. Coach's son was out with foul trouble, SB didn't play nearly as good as he normally does. Could have been the defense and new venue.
I was surprised with the next round Score. I didn't think Springfield could hang with Richmond! 46-43 is much closer than I thought that score would be.
SC brings back just about everyone! Should be them and Crawford again in the District Finals if they are both in the same divisions this year.
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Post by gibby23 on Oct 3, 2019 7:02:00 GMT -5
I don't believe SC played very well either. Coach's son was out with foul trouble, SB didn't play nearly as good as he normally does. Could have been the defense and new venue. I was surprised with the next round Score. I didn't think Springfield could hang with Richmond! 46-43 is much closer than I thought that score would be. SC brings back just about everyone! Should be them and Crawford again in the District Finals if they are both in the same divisions this year. Agreed, South Central is loaded. It should be them and Western Reserve fighting it out for The Firelands Conference title. |
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Post by edchambers on Oct 3, 2019 7:31:46 GMT -5
I don't believe SC played very well either. Coach's son was out with foul trouble, SB didn't play nearly as good as he normally does. Could have been the defense and new venue. I was surprised with the next round Score. I didn't think Springfield could hang with Richmond! 46-43 is much closer than I thought that score would be. SC brings back just about everyone! Should be them and Crawford again in the District Finals if they are both in the same divisions this year. Crawford is D3 this season. |
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Post by dude on Oct 4, 2019 10:49:25 GMT -5
Does everyone expect the SC team to repeat their success they had last year? Many I talked to thought last year was a surprise.
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Post by giffiusmc74 on Oct 7, 2019 23:32:00 GMT -5
Does everyone expect the SC team to repeat their success they had last year? Many I talked to thought last year was a surprise. Last year wasn’t a surprise at all if you follow the team. They brought back just about everyone from the previous year and Simon is in my opinion the best guard in north central Ohio. They bring back all but 3 players. All mostly role players. They also got some valuable playing time for the second coaches son who was a frosh and came along nicely. |
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Post by dude on Oct 8, 2019 15:52:21 GMT -5
Does everyone expect the SC team to repeat their success they had last year? Many I talked to thought last year was a surprise. Last year wasn’t a surprise at all if you follow the team. They brought back just about everyone from the previous year and Simon is in my opinion the best guard in north central Ohio. They bring back all but 3 players. All mostly role players. They also got some valuable playing time for the second coaches son who was a frosh and came along nicely. Well someone had to have been surprised since they won District and were not the #1 seed. I suppose I was not clear enough. Nobody was surprised they had a nice season. Are they expected to make it back to regionals again? People I talked to about them were surprised they made it that far.  |
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Post by jmorgret07 on Oct 9, 2019 11:46:07 GMT -5
Something I came across the other day and found interesting... Western Reserve plays this same New Middletown Springfield team on SUNDAY, January 26th at McKinley High School at 2:45 PM in the McKinley Classic.
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Post by edchambers on Oct 9, 2019 15:23:18 GMT -5
Last year wasn’t a surprise at all if you follow the team. They brought back just about everyone from the previous year and Simon is in my opinion the best guard in north central Ohio. They bring back all but 3 players. All mostly role players. They also got some valuable playing time for the second coaches son who was a frosh and came along nicely. Well someone had to have been surprised since they won District and were not the #1 seed. I suppose I was not clear enough. Nobody was surprised they had a nice season. Are they expected to make it back to regionals again? People I talked to about them were surprised they made it that far. I don't think anyone who saw South Central play Norwalk last year was all that surprised. South Central should have high expectations with 4 starters and their 6th man scheduled to return. District assignments and sites haven't been finalized yet (at least not published) but that district could consist of Buckeye Central, Crestline, Danbury, Lucas, Mansfield Christian, Mohawk, Monroeville, New London, Plymouth, South Central, St. Mary's, St. Paul, and St. Peter's. At this point, SC has to be considered one of the favorites. March is a long way off. |
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Post by dude on Oct 10, 2019 7:28:56 GMT -5
Well someone had to have been surprised since they won District and were not the #1 seed. I suppose I was not clear enough. Nobody was surprised they had a nice season. Are they expected to make it back to regionals again? People I talked to about them were surprised they made it that far. I don't think anyone who saw South Central play Norwalk last year was all that surprised. South Central should have high expectations with 4 starters and their 6th man scheduled to return. District assignments and sites haven't been finalized yet (at least not published) but that district could consist of Buckeye Central, Crestline, Danbury, Lucas, Mansfield Christian, Mohawk, Monroeville, New London, Plymouth, South Central, St. Mary's, St. Paul, and St. Peter's. At this point, SC has to be considered one of the favorites. March is a long way off. Even though Norwalk went 23-4 last year they played almost half their games to a close ending or less than 10pts. They were never a dominate team. What they did have was a player who could control the game and win it for them in the final minutes. I think you are right they will be the favorite and should be. |
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Post by giffiusmc74 on Oct 13, 2019 12:15:38 GMT -5
I've followed SC the last 4-5 years since my nephew was a Senior for them last year.... so there was no surprise to me with their success. I would think that they are early favorites to win another District title - and I wouldn't be surprised to see them get to Regional Finals and or State Final four. I think their coach is a great coach and runs some nice things. Love the program.
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Post by edchambers on Oct 14, 2019 8:51:30 GMT -5
Their district winner will likely head to BG this year rather than Canton.
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