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Post by rosier on Jun 22, 2019 0:28:04 GMT -5
I heard that this school was down to about 30 students in the entire and only went up to seventh grade. What happened to their eighth grade, was it cut out due to declining enrollment? I remember their basketball teams playing Bellevue in 7th and 8th grade. Do they have any sports teams left and did they have more to offer than basketball. Someone told me the schools enrollment had over 200 students at one time. What has happened to St Bernards and is the school in danger of closing? How are these other k-8 parochial feeder schools faring and what schools are thriving and others are in danger having their doors closing.
Bellevue-ICS
Monroeville-St Josephs
Norwalk-St Paul and St Marys combined into Norwalk Catholic....did these two schools have their sports teams. feed into St Pauls HS which Im sure is doing fine right now.
Sandusky-Combined Holy Angels and Saints Peter and Paul into Sandusky CC K-8. How many sports teams did these two have back in the day and what does St Marys future look like?
Huron- St Peters...do they field sports teams?
Vermilion-St Marys
Port Clinton-ICS
Oak Harbor-St Boniface
Clyde-St Marys--closed along time ago used to have some decent football teams. in their 5-8 grades.
Woodville-Solomon Lutheran
Fostoria-St Wendelin..Yes the HS is closed but does the K-8 still offer sports
New Washington-St Bernards….Also had another k-8 school mother of sorrows nearby
Millersville-St Marys
Tiffin-St Mary and St Joseph back in the day who had better athletes. Just Calvert now and what is Calverts future looking like?
Fremont- Sacred Heart combined with St Anns and St Josephs k-8 to become Bishop HOFFMAN. What does the future hold for St Joes HS
Carey-OLC
Bucyrus-Holy Trinity
Crestline-St Josephs
Upper Sandusky-St Peters
Mansfield-St Marys, and st Peters,
Findlay-St Mikes
Bowling Green-St Aloysius
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Post by rosier on Jun 22, 2019 0:31:23 GMT -5
I forgot about St Francis Xavier in Willard, St Josephs in Galion and Sacred Heart in Shelby.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jun 22, 2019 12:47:13 GMT -5
"Mansfield" St. Mary'a is actually in Madison. They have a total of 104 children in pre-K through 8th grade. Almost 30% of those kids are in pre-K and kindergarten. A total of 22 are in 7th and 8th grades combined. They do not have any athletic teams.
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Post by usramfan on Jun 22, 2019 13:27:03 GMT -5
St. Wendelin shut its doors after the most recently completed 18-19 school year. Enrollment dropped by almost half after they closed the HS portion of the building following the 17-18 school year.
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Post by sportsjock on Jun 23, 2019 5:29:07 GMT -5
Not sure on the exact enrollment figures at the moment, but I believe it is somewhere around 850 students.
St. Michael Catholic Schools has seen a consistent and steady increase over the years. They built on to the K thru 8 education complex in recent years, to accommodate the growing student population.
St. Michael is the largest parish in the entire Toledo diocese, that has grown to 11,000 parishioners filling it's two churches on Bright Rd. and the original downtown church.
St. Michael schools has been bucking the trend of sagging enrollment experienced elsewhere, due primarily to a robust parish membership, flush with young families.
With the recent closing of St. Wendelin High School, I am speculating there is renewed discussions and possible planning for a new high school in the not too distant future. The local parish has owned land further south on Bright Rd., for just that purpose for many years.
What's going on with St. Michael the Archangel Parish is indicative of the Findlay community as a whole, thriving on a robust economy and growing on it's 42,000 population base.
Findlay is on a short list of northwest Ohio communities experiencing significant growth, with Bowling Green, Defiance, Perrysburg and Ashland.
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Post by kingmartinez on Jun 23, 2019 19:10:32 GMT -5
Not sure on the exact enrollment figures at the moment, but I believe it is somewhere around 850 students. St. Michael Catholic Schools has seen a consistent and steady increase over the years. They built on to the K thru 8 education complex in recent years, to accommodate the growing student population. St. Michael is the largest parish in the entire Toledo diocese, that has grown to 11,000 parishioners filling it's two churches on Bright Rd. and the original downtown church. St. Michael schools has been bucking the trend of sagging enrollment experienced elsewhere, due primarily to a robust parish membership, flush with young families. With the recent closing of St. Wendelin High School, I am speculating there is renewed discussions and possible planning for a new high school in the not too distant future. The local parish has owned land further south on Bright Rd., for just that purpose for many years. What's going on with St. Michael the Archangel Parish is indicative of the Findlay community as a whole, thriving on a robust economy and growing on it's 42,000 population base. Findlay is on a short list of northwest Ohio communities experiencing significant growth, with Bowling Green, Defiance, Perrysburg and Ashland. I'm sure you recall this discussion a couple years ago...Should be interesting. ncoast.proboards.com/thread/871/st-wendelin-high-school-close |
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Post by rosier on Jun 23, 2019 20:55:42 GMT -5
Ashland has a k-8 school in St Edwards...And then you have St Peters in the Mansfield area and enrollment seems to have risen there after losing students for a time. Whats changed at Mansfield St Peters and why are catholic kids flocking to nearby Ashland? If their having a renaissance in catholic education, shouldn't students be flocking to parochial schools in Galion,Shelby and Crestline.
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Post by rosier on Jun 23, 2019 21:00:38 GMT -5
Not long ago, OLC in Carey used to have some pretty tough kids playing in their middle school and jr cadet ranks and then they ended playing at Carey HS. Carey used to have stacked teams in the 90s. Parochial middle school teams from Fostoria, Findlay,Carey, Clyde and Tiffin used to give Bellevue ICS fits although they had an easy time against Monroeville St Josephs and the Norwalk Parochial school-
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Post by rosier on Jun 23, 2019 21:02:11 GMT -5
Defiance would never be on my radar as a destination for catholics in Lutheran dominated Henry and Defiance Counties
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Post by GHS 1999 on Jun 23, 2019 22:51:51 GMT -5
Holy Trinity in Bucyrus closed a few years ago and bought a bus to transport their students to St. Joe’s in Galion.
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Post by sportsjock on Jun 24, 2019 8:28:10 GMT -5
Defiance would never be on my radar as a destination for catholics in Lutheran dominated Henry and Defiance Counties There are indeed a lot of Lutherans in that area. Especially around the Napoleon area. However, rural Ohio is strongly inundated with europians and especially German immigrants that were adapt to farming and hence, all the rural Catholic churches in all the small burgs and villages dotting Ohio's rural landscape. |
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Post by utsherman on Jun 24, 2019 9:38:42 GMT -5
Not sure on the exact enrollment figures at the moment, but I believe it is somewhere around 850 students. St. Michael Catholic Schools has seen a consistent and steady increase over the years. They built on to the K thru 8 education complex in recent years, to accommodate the growing student population. St. Michael is the largest parish in the entire Toledo diocese, that has grown to 11,000 parishioners filling it's two churches on Bright Rd. and the original downtown church. St. Michael schools has been bucking the trend of sagging enrollment experienced elsewhere, due primarily to a robust parish membership, flush with young families. With the recent closing of St. Wendelin High School, I am speculating there is renewed discussions and possible planning for a new high school in the not too distant future. The local parish has owned land further south on Bright Rd., for just that purpose for many years. What's going on with St. Michael the Archangel Parish is indicative of the Findlay community as a whole, thriving on a robust economy and growing on it's 42,000 population base. Findlay is on a short list of northwest Ohio communities experiencing significant growth, with Bowling Green, Defiance, Perrysburg and Ashland. Just to add some perspective, I think growth/inclusion within a parish are also tied directly to the priest and their leadership and involvement. In St. Mike's case, I think Monsignor Mike Hohenbrink's assignment in 2000 was critical. Having left St. Catherine's in Toledo to shepherd the process in Findlay, the results speak for themselves. I'll disclose inherent bias as my family has known Fr. Mike for years, and in my opinion, there couldn't have been a finer man for the job. Of course the other factors you listed (e.g. population base, economy, etc.) are crucial ingredients to be sure. On the opposite side of the coin, I've also seen parishes that were thriving up until a change in leadership occurred. A lack of connection, energy, and involvement at all levels, especially within the youth programs, will often send parishioners looking for another church/parish to call home. |
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Post by fanofthegame on Jun 24, 2019 11:47:11 GMT -5
Walk into any church regardless of denomination and you’ll see what looks like a nursing home. I used to be the youngest in the congregation with four small children. I’m still near the youngest and my last leaves for college this fall. That says something. If parents aren’t going to church they probably aren’t sending their kids to parochial school.
The current child bearing generation is having fewer kids and later. That equals fewer kids for the available seats.
The crappy economy a decade ago hurt a lot of schools. Tuition or electric bill. That’s an easy decision.
Many of our public schools are good. I’ve had two go to Denison and two to Miami with the education they got at Shelby. It’s a good school.
Many of these small rural private schools don’t have a big enough area to draw from if every Catholic kid in town doesn’t enroll.
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Post by sportsjock on Jun 24, 2019 12:13:05 GMT -5
Walk into any church regardless of denomination and you’ll see what looks like a nursing home. I used to be the youngest in the congregation with four small children. I’m still near the youngest and my last leaves for college this fall. That says something. If parents aren’t going to church they probably aren’t sending their kids to parochial school. The current child bearing generation is having fewer kids and later. That equals fewer kids for the available seats. The crappy economy a decade ago hurt a lot of schools. Tuition or electric bill. That’s an easy decision. Many of our public schools are good. I’ve had two go to Denison and two to Miami with the education they got at Shelby. It’s a good school. Many of these small rural private schools don’t have a big enough area to draw from if every Catholic kid in town doesn’t enroll. Not the case at St. Mikes. The number of families with small children and toddlers is a bit astounding. These are many families with five or more kids. I agree with all you are saying, however. Although public schools cannot match the college prep curriculum of most parochial schools, good parental involvement and guidance, that includes active monitoring and consultation with their teaching staff, usually produces excellent results (as with your family). |
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Post by sportsjock on Jun 24, 2019 12:25:18 GMT -5
Not sure on the exact enrollment figures at the moment, but I believe it is somewhere around 850 students. St. Michael Catholic Schools has seen a consistent and steady increase over the years. They built on to the K thru 8 education complex in recent years, to accommodate the growing student population. St. Michael is the largest parish in the entire Toledo diocese, that has grown to 11,000 parishioners filling it's two churches on Bright Rd. and the original downtown church. St. Michael schools has been bucking the trend of sagging enrollment experienced elsewhere, due primarily to a robust parish membership, flush with young families. With the recent closing of St. Wendelin High School, I am speculating there is renewed discussions and possible planning for a new high school in the not too distant future. The local parish has owned land further south on Bright Rd., for just that purpose for many years. What's going on with St. Michael the Archangel Parish is indicative of the Findlay community as a whole, thriving on a robust economy and growing on it's 42,000 population base. Findlay is on a short list of northwest Ohio communities experiencing significant growth, with Bowling Green, Defiance, Perrysburg and Ashland. Just to add some perspective, I think growth/inclusion within a parish are also tied directly to the priest and their leadership and involvement. In St. Mike's case, I think Monsignor Mike Hohenbrink's assignment in 2000 was critical. Having left St. Catherine's in Toledo to shepherd the process in Findlay, the results speak for themselves. I'll disclose inherent bias as my family has known Fr. Mike for years, and in my opinion, there couldn't have been a finer man for the job. Of course the other factors you listed (e.g. population base, economy, etc.) are crucial ingredients to be sure. On the opposite side of the coin, I've also seen parishes that were thriving up until a change in leadership occurred. A lack of connection, energy, and involvement at all levels, especially within the youth programs, will often send parishioners looking for another church/parish to call home. I agree.... Msg. Mike Hohenbrink has been a guiding presence and blessing, for sure. Father Mike Zacharias possesses many of his qualities and has been well accepted by the parishioners. My favorite young priest of all has been Father Scott Woods and was disappointed he was reassigned to St. Mikes in Gibsonburg. Our new Associate Pastor Kyle Gase is getting more comfortable week to week and more relaxed in his new responsibility. |
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Jun 24, 2019 12:32:43 GMT -5
What I am about to say has several factors going into it, but it is still an interesting observation.
St. Mary's Elementary in Shelby, as far as I was ever able to determine, had a very healthy streak of consecutive years in which the valedictorian from Shelby High School was also a graduate of St. Mary's Elementary. I lost track with the past few graduating classes, but the streak was, at minimum, applicable to the 2004-2014 Shelby High School graduating classes. My best theory for this? Parents who are Catholic to the point of sending their little bundles of joy to a Catholic school are more likely to be rigorous/involved with their children in a way that fosters discipline and support. I'll ascribe 5% of my theory to the dress code, because I technically have no proof to the contrary. For isolated areas like Shelby, I bet these small-town private schools have a similar type of academic success at the high school level.
For the curious, these distinct positive academic effects seem to fade away for the parochial college student. From a male perspective, the introduction of otherworldly sins like sundresses and the "smooth pilsner taste with all natural ingredients" typically sent my counterparts into quite a tizzy. For the women, it was Buzzfeed that did them in.
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Post by sportsjock on Jun 24, 2019 13:04:33 GMT -5
What I am about to say has several factors going into it, but it is still an interesting observation. St. Mary's Elementary in Shelby, as far as I was ever able to determine, had a very healthy streak of consecutive years in which the valedictorian from Shelby High School was also a graduate of St. Mary's Elementary. I lost track with the past few graduating classes, but the streak was, at minimum, applicable to the 2004-2014 Shelby High School graduating classes. My best theory for this? Parents who are Catholic to the point of sending their little bundles of joy to a Catholic school are more likely to be rigorous/involved with their children in a way that fosters discipline and support. I'll ascribe 5% of my theory to the dress code, because I technically have no proof to the contrary. For isolated areas like Shelby, I bet these small-town private schools have a similar type of academic success at the high school level. For the curious, these distinct positive academic effects seem to fade away for the parochial college student. From a male perspective, the introduction of otherworldly sins like sundresses and the "smooth pilsner taste with all natural ingredients" typically sent my counterparts into quite a tizzy. For the women, it was Buzzfeed that did them in. Well said and pretty insightful. Your last paragraph, got me laughing....lol |
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Post by clb6110 on Jun 24, 2019 13:24:25 GMT -5
Interesting, I do know that both the valedictorian and the salutatorian of the 2019 Willard HS were both grade school grads of Celeryville Christian, I don't actually know of run like St Mary's had at Shelby HS but thinking back I do recall that Celeryville Christian students have had pretty good success at Willard HS in the academic dept.
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Jun 24, 2019 13:55:52 GMT -5
As far as that valedictorian/salutatorian streak for St. Mary's goes, I know it very likely continues that 2004-2014 streak (whether pre-2004 or post-2014), I just literally don't have the information to confirm my suspicion.
Which, if we are going off that vein, I always wrote off St. Mary's success as a product of the families sending their kids to the school. Less troublemakers, more focused children (or at least children who had a higher sense to behave), and families with the time/energy to be active participants in their kid's education. This is a fine theory and I stand by it.
However, if other private schools in the Willard's, Bellevue's, Bucyrus's, etc. of the world did NOT have a similar streak, it is very possible that we could pin down St. Mary's as having some sort of exceptional programming that extends beyond the genre of families that send their kids to St. Mary's.
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Post by sportsjock on Jun 24, 2019 14:49:36 GMT -5
St. Marys undoubtedly has a tremendous role in the molding of these young people. Catholic and most private schools both adhere to Christian ideology, where the students are exposed to a healthy mix of traditional academics and Christian theology.
Too many kids develop the necessary skills to tackle the challenges of college, but are left with moral and ethics shortcomings, that may become problematic later in life.
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Post by fanofthegame on Jun 24, 2019 15:55:07 GMT -5
There is no doubt family involvement plays a role. If you’re paying extra above taxes for your kids school you’ve prioritized their well being and education.
An educator on here can back me up, but I think there are studies to show uniforms as a single intervention have been proven to improve test scores. Galion’s public school and Mansfield Sr both require them.
I’m a cradle Catholic. I firmly believe in the tenants of my religion. I get the tradition of celibacy in the priesthood. Tradition is what connects today’s Catholics to those in the past and will to those in the future. Look what the Jews have survived persecution-wise and it is in part because of maintaining unnecessary traditions like Kosher eating. Having said that men who have chosen to marry the church are not the best at creating a nurturing environment for young families. We need more priests like you guys a citing OR we need to develop the Deacon program more vigorously. That would also help with the priest shortage. JMO.
Shelby St Mary’s kids not only held the top spot for years, but also made up an inordinately high percentage of the top ten relative to their total number. During my oldest’s senior year they were 4/5 starters on the basketball team and the first two off the bench. I think a lot of that is a result of parental involvement.
I also laughed at the Pilsner comment. I have a slightly different perspective. I grew up in a Catholic family where beer and wine flowed freely. There was no novelty when I went to college. Come on. Haven’t you ever heard where you’ll find four Catholics you’ll find a fifth (rimshot).
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Jun 25, 2019 6:21:45 GMT -5
If I may defend my Pilsner comment, I will happily suggest that the German Catholic we are familiar with is quite the hearty individual compared to the more stoic Italian/French/English Catholics that I had to share company with.
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Post by sportsjock on Jun 25, 2019 8:22:45 GMT -5
If I may defend my Pilsner comment, I will happily suggest that the German Catholic we are familiar with is quite the hearty individual compared to the more stoic Italian/French/English Catholics that I had to share company with. My wife grew up on the family farm with 8 siblings. Her father was the son of German immigrants and her mother was the daughter of immigrants from Luxemburg. Her parents spoke fluent German at the breakfast table, until she reached high school, as speaking anything but English became frowned upon, in our present day society. (unfortunate, as I would love being multilingual) |
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Jun 25, 2019 10:36:16 GMT -5
I have family ties to Rhode Island. There is a town on the northern most border of the state called Woonsocket, where these family ties are strongest. In several ways, Woonsocket and Mansfield are the same city. Same population, same general blue-collar feel, and similar wealth and poverty levels. Woonsocket is about an hour from the beach, so it can even be comparable to Mansfield's relative distance from Lake Erie.
However, Woonsocket is abundantly French/French-Canadian with a notable Portuguese and Italian presence. My relatives speak about how they grew up in Woonsocket and the variety of Catholic churches there were in town. There was the "French" parish, the "Italian" parish, etc. These parishes conducted mass in French, Italian, Portuguese, even Latin. Today, Woonsocket is more concerned about keeping their churches open than they are the language that mass is conducted in.
Now, having seen both sides of the coin (the German Catholics and the French/Italian/etc. Catholics), I would definitely describe German Catholics as more relaxed. What German Catholics lack in formality, they make up for in charisma. Where the New England Catholic lacks in charisma, they make up for in formality. Hell, just go to a New England Catholic wedding to see the difference. Of course, this was also the state that had a pseudo-mafia member be mayor of the state capital for 21 years, a US big city record.
One last Woonsocket fun fact: Their high school team is the Woonsocket Villanovans. Their schools colors are maroon and they have a W that is identical to Willard's. I almost had a coronary the first time I saw someone wearing a "Willard" varsity jacket in Woonsocket before I made the connection.
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Post by rosier on Jun 25, 2019 17:55:37 GMT -5
It sort of like that in Seneca County in the New Riegel area where there are several catholic churches that dot the area and they love their beer. South of New Riegel going out towards McCutchenville/ Carey is Frenchtown....Known to have many immigrants from France and Belgium who settled in the area who conveniently located a catholic church here...You've heard the names Jenot, LaFontaine, Colet, Kimmet, Bakies, Buillon, Guillame, Warnemonts, Fillater, etc...German migrants also settled in New Riegel with a catholic church with others in Alvada and Bascom. Over in Bellevue the germans along with the Italians started up catholic churches in their neck of the woods.
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Post by utsherman on Jun 25, 2019 21:19:51 GMT -5
It sort of like that in Seneca County in the New Riegel area where there are several catholic churches that dot the area and they love their beer. South of New Riegel going out towards McCutchenville/ Carey is Frenchtown....Known to have many immigrants from France and Belgium who settled in the area who conveniently located a catholic church here...You've heard the names Jenot, LaFontaine, Colet, Kimmet, Bakies, Buillon, Guillame, Warnemonts, Fillater, etc...German migrants also settled in New Riegel with a catholic church with others in Alvada and Bascom. Over in Bellevue the germans along with the Italians started up catholic churches in their neck of the woods. I’ve been to St. Nicholas in Frenchtown many times. For my money, Our Lady of Consolation in Carey is the most beautiful church in the Dioceses. The Basilica is such a powerful and humbling place. |
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Post by sportsjock on Jun 26, 2019 6:43:19 GMT -5
It sort of like that in Seneca County in the New Riegel area where there are several catholic churches that dot the area and they love their beer. South of New Riegel going out towards McCutchenville/ Carey is Frenchtown....Known to have many immigrants from France and Belgium who settled in the area who conveniently located a catholic church here...You've heard the names Jenot, LaFontaine, Colet, Kimmet, Bakies, Buillon, Guillame, Warnemonts, Fillater, etc...German migrants also settled in New Riegel with a catholic church with others in Alvada and Bascom. Over in Bellevue the germans along with the Italians started up catholic churches in their neck of the woods. I’ve been to St. Nicholas in Frenchtown many times. For my money, Our Lady of Consolation in Carey is the most beautiful church in the Dioceses. The Basilica is such a powerful and humbling place. The Basilica is all that. I've attended Masses there and sing in choirs there, every year. The National Shrine Park is an amazing place as well. Most recently, they have upgraded and enhanced all the stations of the cross, with L.E.D. lighting. I also sing in the choir, for the annual candle light vigil in August. with a gathering of 10,000 faithful worshippers. |
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Post by fanofthegame on Jun 26, 2019 7:00:36 GMT -5
It sort of like that in Seneca County in the New Riegel area where there are several catholic churches that dot the area and they love their beer. South of New Riegel going out towards McCutchenville/ Carey is Frenchtown....Known to have many immigrants from France and Belgium who settled in the area who conveniently located a catholic church here...You've heard the names Jenot, LaFontaine, Colet, Kimmet, Bakies, Buillon, Guillame, Warnemonts, Fillater, etc...German migrants also settled in New Riegel with a catholic church with others in Alvada and Bascom. Over in Bellevue the germans along with the Italians started up catholic churches in their neck of the woods. I’ve been to St. Nicholas in Frenchtown many times. For my money, Our Lady of Consolation in Carey is the most beautiful church in the Dioceses. The Basilica is such a powerful and humbling place. If you get a chance Sacred Heart of Jesus at “The Settlement” south of Shelby is one of the most beautiful churches I’ve been in. Technically in Bethlehem if you Google it. Striking stone church in the middle of corn fields. Meticulously maintained. |
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Post by clb6110 on Jun 26, 2019 7:07:27 GMT -5
I attended a wedding 6/21 at St Joes in Tiffin. Another beautiful church.
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Post by sportsjock on Jun 26, 2019 7:24:21 GMT -5
It sort of like that in Seneca County in the New Riegel area where there are several catholic churches that dot the area and they love their beer. South of New Riegel going out towards McCutchenville/ Carey is Frenchtown....Known to have many immigrants from France and Belgium who settled in the area who conveniently located a catholic church here...You've heard the names Jenot, LaFontaine, Colet, Kimmet, Bakies, Buillon, Guillame, Warnemonts, Fillater, etc...German migrants also settled in New Riegel with a catholic church with others in Alvada and Bascom. Over in Bellevue the germans along with the Italians started up catholic churches in their neck of the woods. I’ve been to St. Nicholas in Frenchtown many times. For my money, Our Lady of Consolation in Carey is the most beautiful church in the Dioceses. The Basilica is such a powerful and humbling place. Supposedly, my wife's great, great grandfather Nicholas LaFountaine donated the land that St. Nicholas was built on. New Riegel schools has an interesting history. This small community and area is predominantly Catholics of German descent and the school was essentially a Catholic public school system well into the 70's. A good share of the teachers were nuns from the convent, the halls were adorned with paintings of Jesus and Mary, Saints and crucifix's etc. and all the students attended Mass each morning before starting classes. What gave St. Boniface influence and leverage, was the fact they owned the grade school building and leased it to the state of Ohio. The convent, located next to the church and across from the high school, was eventually closed and sold, later fell victim of a spectacular fire that burned it to the ground. The destroyed building, was a brick structure of great architectural beauty. |
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