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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Oct 6, 2019 8:05:14 GMT -5
These two most recently played in a Bay-River crossover in 2017 that Edison won 39-16
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Post by ScarletFever on Oct 7, 2019 22:03:18 GMT -5
These two most recently played in a Bay-River crossover in 2017 that Edison won 39-16 Willard staring at 0-9 with all 9 being running clocks (weather shortened game woulda been) 🙁
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 8, 2019 14:00:18 GMT -5
A bigger problem for Willard next year. I doubt any arm twisting will get basketball players out for football at the last minute.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Oct 11, 2019 7:42:38 GMT -5
This game will be on 92.9 WLKR Classic
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Post by CEOSouth on Oct 11, 2019 20:07:41 GMT -5
Edison doesn’t punt at all.
62-14 F
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Post by ScarletFever on Oct 11, 2019 20:39:27 GMT -5
Edison doesn’t punt at all. 62-14 F Clockwork Crimson 😑
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Post by jmorgret07 on Oct 11, 2019 22:49:37 GMT -5
I believe it was only 21-14 at one point.
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Post by portwalk on Oct 12, 2019 7:18:42 GMT -5
These two most recently played in a Bay-River crossover in 2017 that Edison won 39-16 Willard staring at 0-9 with all 9 being running clocks (weather shortened game woulda been) 🙁 That’s incredible hard to believe a little over a decade ago they were competing for NOL titles
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Post by ScarletFever on Oct 12, 2019 9:42:07 GMT -5
Willard staring at 0-9 with all 9 being running clocks (weather shortened game woulda been) 🙁 That’s incredible hard to believe a little over a decade ago they were competing for NOL titles Took a lotta hard work to achieve this over the years, but we did it. Norwalk sure is lookin good as a side note.
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Post by Nashville Buckeye on Oct 12, 2019 10:11:31 GMT -5
That’s incredible hard to believe a little over a decade ago they were competing for NOL titles Took a lotta hard work to achieve this over the years, but we did it. Norwalk sure is lookin good as a side note. Who should we thank for that? 🤔 Imagine the fortunes of both programs if one them had only done that right thing 10 years ago!
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Post by DrugMart on Oct 12, 2019 10:26:42 GMT -5
Willard's Soccer team is 7-2-1 in their last 10 matches. Just think where they could be if this silly football team wasn't stealing players away from them.
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Post by jmorgret07 on Oct 12, 2019 10:42:14 GMT -5
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Post by buckeyekid on Oct 12, 2019 11:37:50 GMT -5
We need more all State D1 players like Norwalk has. That's all I ask for.
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Post by CEOSouth on Oct 12, 2019 12:17:32 GMT -5
Willard staring at 0-9 with all 9 being running clocks (weather shortened game woulda been) 🙁 That’s incredible hard to believe a little over a decade ago they were competing for NOL titles Unfortunately, I think it’s been more than ‘a little’ over a decade ago. IIRC, 2007 was the last time they were even over .500. I’d guess the last time they were competing for a title was sometime between 2003-2005ish, anywhere from14 to 16 years ago.
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Post by CEOSouth on Oct 12, 2019 12:49:46 GMT -5
^I take that back. in 2018 under Coach Britton Devier, the Flashes went 5-5 with a 4-3 League Record. in 2010 under Coach Mike Strance, the Flashes went 5-5 with a 4-3 League Record. in 2005 under Coach Mike Eicher, the Flashes went 6-4 with a 5-2 League Record(League Runner up) in 2002 under Coach Chris Hawkins, the Flashes went 10-2 with a 5-1 League Record(League Runner up) in 1999 under COach Chris Hawkins, the FLashes went 10-2 with a 6-1 League Record(NOL Champs) You could say they haven't logically competed for a league title since 2005, which is the last time they were ABOVE .500 They haven't won a League Title in 20 years To summarize the last 21 years of Willard Football: Overall 79-134 (.370) League 52-79 (.396) The Coach Hawkins Era:Overall 41-25 (.621) League 25-16 (.609) 1 League Title 3 Playoff Appearances The Post Coach Hawkins Era:Overall 38-109 (.258) League 27-63 (.300) 0 League Titles 0 Playoff Appearances Hawkins had more wins in 6 years, than Willard has had in the 15 years since he left. The Past 7 years have been particularly harsh for the Willard Football Program Last 7 Years:
Overall 11-56 (.164) League 7-31 (.184) *stats courtesy of crimsonflashes.com/yearly/
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Post by portwalk on Oct 12, 2019 17:04:34 GMT -5
All I was saying was to go from that 99-2007 then to a running clock every game playing the schedule they do is pretty staggering
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Post by Admin on Oct 12, 2019 17:24:44 GMT -5
The Coach Hawkins Era:Overall 41-25 (.621) League 25-16 (.609) 1 League Title 3 Playoff Appearances The Post Coach Hawkins Era:Overall 38-109 (.258) League 27-63 (.300) 0 League Titles 0 Playoff Appearances Hawkins had more wins in 6 years, than Willard has had in the 15 years since he left. Whoa! And think of the wins in the past 15 years, Danbury, Fremont St Joe, Plymouth. 15 years ago scheduling those teams would have been unthinkable, and now we are scheduling Seneca East, Plymouth, South Central and Lucas and getting smoked by all of them.
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Post by buckeyekid on Oct 13, 2019 8:08:49 GMT -5
I told a parent yesterday that imo it takes an awful lot of guts to show up to practice day after day and games knowing you are going to be over matched significantly on Friday nights. This goes for the staff as well. Which is why it's important to find positives and support the athletes and coaches in whatever way possible.
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Post by truecrimson on Oct 14, 2019 7:08:54 GMT -5
I told a parent yesterday that imo it takes an awful lot of guts to show up to practice day after day and games knowing you are going to be over matched significantly on Friday nights. This goes for the staff as well. Which is why it's important to find positives and support the athletes and coaches in whatever way possible. I want to know what it takes to get back on track? The people supporting these programs do it to support the players and the coaches. Week after week it seems we are over matched, why? What are these other programs doing to be so successful? Is it discipline, methods, equipment, direction, heart? Don't you think it is time for the movers and shakers to get together and find a solution and really invest the time and energy to try and turn this around? The board rep for the athletic programs is none existent. Wouldn't you think he would be out pounding the pavement looking for a way to get this program on track? I have to give these coaches and players credit for sticking with it and having the heart to push forward. Someone said it to me the other day, we are lining up a JV team on Friday nights to play everyone's Varsity team. I remember years ago there was a large investment in Rogue Equipment and a lot of the heavy weight equipment was auctioned off (huge mistake and bad decision). That is where this starts, a good facility with the right equipment, a facility where kids can practice year around. You need people on a committee to come together that care about the success of this program like we do, to come up with solutions to turn this around. We have good coaches in place right now, for the most part, so we need to find a way to help them.
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Post by ScarletFever on Oct 14, 2019 8:06:48 GMT -5
Coaches are paid so yes they will show up.
The kids are the ones that deserve a medal for volunteering to play & getting drubbed week after week. Those above them have let them and this program down for over a decade.
At this rate there won’t be a program to gripe about in a few years.
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Post by truecrimson on Oct 14, 2019 9:45:16 GMT -5
Coaches are paid so yes they will show up. The kids are the ones that deserve a medal for volunteering to play & getting drubbed week after week. Those above them have let them and this program down for over a decade. At this rate there won’t be a program to gripe about in a few years. I'm not going to argue that point, they get paid and some of them paid well. That is why I said some and not all. We know some people coach for that $$$ and that is their real reason for coaching, to supplement their income. We all know Hawkins was ran off for not playing that "kid" and the fact that those around this board and program let it happen was a shame. Most of those self serving idiots are long gone but some have been replaced with the same "can't fight their way out of a wet paper bag or have an opinion for themselves to save their lives." people. So, "Those above them have let them and this program down for over a decade. " need to be called out and answer for their inability to manage anything more than DM. I see this as a job and if you are not performing at the highest level and moving things in a positive direction, you are ousted. Why is it that the coach is always replaced? What about those hiring these coaches, are they even qualified to vet these people that will run these programs? Hell, some of these people have been doing this for 15-20 years with the same pathetic results and if that isn't the definition of insanity I don't know what is. The problem is the circle of influence reaches far and the serpent can try and convince anyone to eat the apple, and the sheep usually do. I feel these adults in and around this program have failed them miserably and should step down. We know that won't happen because this is about ego now, not about making progress.
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Post by sportsvideo on Oct 14, 2019 18:27:42 GMT -5
I told a parent yesterday that imo it takes an awful lot of guts to show up to practice day after day and games knowing you are going to be over matched significantly on Friday nights. This goes for the staff as well. Which is why it's important to find positives and support the athletes and coaches in whatever way possible. hang in there win #1 is coming soon... and for them i believe week 10? will be a memorable evening for those kids...for the kids on the other side of the sidelines... wished i could say they'd see win #1 as well...
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Post by CEOSouth on Oct 14, 2019 18:40:09 GMT -5
I want to know what it takes to get back on track? I think there are a lot of variables that go into that, however I think one thing that would really help would be a stellar class coming through the ranks, just if only to 'make it cool' again. Gotta remember that these kids probably don't even remember when Willard was good in football. I think a by product of the basketballs teams success this past year is that it will help the program down the line, if only that the kids see how much the community will get behind a decent team. The football program desperately needs that. A good portion of that may be luck, but I'd be willing to bet that there are steps to take to increase that interest level at a younger age. Does Willard still hold a summer football camp for 7th and under?
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Post by truecrimson on Oct 14, 2019 20:07:29 GMT -5
I think there are a lot of variables that go into that, however I think one thing that would really help would be a stellar class coming through the ranks, just if only to 'make it cool' again. Gotta remember that these kids probably don't even remember when Willard was good in football. I think a by product of the basketballs teams success this past year is that it will help the program down the line, if only that the kids see how much the community will get behind a decent team. The football program desperately needs that. A good portion of that may be luck, but I'd be willing to bet that there are steps to take to increase that interest level at a younger age. Does Willard still hold a summer football camp for 7th and under? The stellar classes are there, they have failed to train and develop. That MS football coach should have been fired years ago when the program started to see the masses of kids not wanting to play for this egomaniac. But MS doesn’t matter until he runs all the players away from the program and by the time these stellar classes get into high school they have lost the love and passion for the game. People, this is like I’m giving you the lottery numbers, you just have to bite. This new coach was screwed because he adopted a program that had a coach that ran it in to the ground and then bailed. he did little to nothing to help develop the younger grades yet our glorious hiring committee felt he walked on water. funny how they crucified him when he left them hanging.
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Post by ScarletFever on Oct 14, 2019 21:36:41 GMT -5
Those impartial Ive talked to have Vermilion as favorites. Regardless 0-9 v 0-9 in week 10 when’s the last time that’s happened.
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Post by Admin on Oct 15, 2019 8:00:38 GMT -5
Regardless 0-9 v 0-9 in week 10 when’s the last time that’s happened. I couldn't find one with a really quick search (I only searched NOL games) Here are the closest week 10 matchups of 0-9 teams I could find 2000 - (0-9) Bucyrus vs (1-8) Upper Sandusky (Upper won 35-0) 2008 - (0-9) Norwalk vs (1-8) Willard (Willard won 28-13) 2011 - (0-9) Shelby vs (1-8) Willard (Willard won 23-18) And here's the closest one I could find with both teams winless weak 9 or later 1994 Week 9 - (0-8) Upper Sandusky vs (0-8) Norwalk (Norwalk won 17-6)
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Post by portwalk on Oct 16, 2019 15:44:49 GMT -5
Looking at Vermilion and Willard while both are winless the Sailors are losing to the likes of TC, OH, Perkins not the likes on the Flashes opponents. This week Willard plays a common opp. In PC maybe we’ll learn something more.
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Post by duckdude on Oct 20, 2019 7:32:59 GMT -5
What do you say to kids going into 9th grade that played MS this year but are already saying they will not play next?
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Post by ScarletFever on Oct 26, 2019 5:27:31 GMT -5
What do you say to kids going into 9th grade that played MS this year but are already saying they will not play next? How about golf?
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Post by ScarletFever on Oct 26, 2019 5:28:41 GMT -5
Those impartial Ive talked to have Vermilion as favorites. Regardless 0-9 v 0-9 in week 10 when’s the last time that’s happened. This has changed. Vermilion offense is allergic to the end zone. Willard favored
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