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Post by fliers62 on Oct 18, 2019 13:57:09 GMT -5
Ross's Record since joining/forming the TRAC 2011-2018 not including any of this year and not including the one play-off game:
Overall: 37-43 (46% win percentage) TRAC Play: 22-34 (39% win percentage)
Use this information as you wish, but I would rather see Fremont flourish in a competitive league with the current Lake teams than be a middle tier team to bottom feeder every year, and I am just talking football of course. If they could gain some more confidence by playing these teams they would make it to the play-offs more often and rebuild a once proud program. I would also point out that the only reason Fremont is not in is because of the SBC, not because of Fremont. "We don't need you we are fine in the TRAC," get over yourself. You even have a good set of coaches and can't do d*ck. I'd rather see the Clyde boys back at home, not wasting their time in a town lost in time to their previous position in local football history. Fremont may be a sleeping giant, I can agree with that, but the sleeping little giant will stay sleeping when you are in a constant league of juggernauts and you are not one.
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Post by fliers62 on Oct 18, 2019 14:08:18 GMT -5
We are a sleeping giant..Alot freshman and sophomores getting butt kicked now, it will turn for us .Kids will remember . 2014 was an anomaly. And you're right; kids remember. Sports are mental, and those kids will feel defeated before the game begins. It also doesn't help reminding everyone how much a disadvantage it is going against most of TRAC. Not saying you, but others. More than anything, they'll need to go the extra mile to compete. It helps that St Johns (2-8), Clay (2-8), Toledo St Francis DeSales (1-9), and Sandusky (3-7) were not good that year, not taking anything away from Fremont, it was one heck of a year, but that is where the anomaly has come in from the last decade. When Fremont is consistently on the bottom rung of the conference are they really pushing themselves into a better position? It is no wonder there might be a mental block
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Post by John on Oct 18, 2019 14:30:03 GMT -5
Fliers62
You make a great point.
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Post by maplecityjake on Oct 18, 2019 14:39:02 GMT -5
2014 was an anomaly. And you're right; kids remember. Sports are mental, and those kids will feel defeated before the game begins. It also doesn't help reminding everyone how much a disadvantage it is going against most of TRAC. Not saying you, but others. More than anything, they'll need to go the extra mile to compete. It helps that St Johns (2-8), Clay (2-8), Toledo St Francis DeSales (1-9), and Sandusky (3-7) were not good that year, not taking anything away from Fremont, it was one heck of a year, but that is where the anomaly has come in from the last decade. When Fremont is consistently on the bottom rung of the conference are they really pushing themselves into a better position? It is no wonder there might be a mental block I forgot about schools being down that year, but didn't forget Ross lucked out against Whitmer and Findlay. As the cliche goes, sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.
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Post by fliers62 on Oct 18, 2019 14:46:34 GMT -5
It helps that St Johns (2-8), Clay (2-8), Toledo St Francis DeSales (1-9), and Sandusky (3-7) were not good that year, not taking anything away from Fremont, it was one heck of a year, but that is where the anomaly has come in from the last decade. When Fremont is consistently on the bottom rung of the conference are they really pushing themselves into a better position? It is no wonder there might be a mental block I forgot about schools being down that year, but didn't forget Ross lucked out against Whitmer and Findlay. As the cliche goes, sometimes it's better to be lucky than good. We were at the Whitmer game and it was huge. Like I said, not taking anything away from Fremont at all here. I just think they can put themselves in a better position to better themselves instead of this "once in a generation team" type mentality as seen from one of the other posters.
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Post by John on Oct 20, 2019 13:31:51 GMT -5
Flier62
I agree something has to be done in regards to finding competition that suits us.Alot of fremonters dont like 1-9 possible and are shocked.Well Fremont has NOT gone 1-9 since 2003 right after U.S. invaded Iraq and chuck Lindsey was coaching.My concern are lower numbers in 7th grade
Shadow
A drunk huh, you oughta be ashamed calling someone drunk when there sick and dying IDK maybe it made you feel good idk.its a shame..Maybe instead of criticizing maybe see what fremonts next moves are.
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Post by areafan1 on Oct 20, 2019 19:26:23 GMT -5
Flier62 I agree something has to be done in regards to finding competition that suits us.Alot of fremonters dont like 1-9 possible and are shocked.Well Fremont has NOT gone 1-9 since 2003 right after U.S. invaded Iraq and chuck Lindsey was coaching.My concern are lower numbers in 7th grade Shadow A drunk huh, you oughta be ashamed calling someone drunk when there sick and dying IDK maybe it made you feel good idk.its a shame..Maybe instead of criticizing maybe see what fremonts next moves are. Anyone that follows Fremont football shouldn't be surprised their 1-9 with no more talent then they have. Anyone that blame Coach Long for this doesn't understand football. If Long leaves who are they going to get thats any better, Ross isn't the Ross of old and never will be. There isn't any Woodson, Lytle or McCarthy in Fremont any more. I was told Ross next move is their going to re-apply to the SBC this year. Tell Clyde AD and principle to change their mind for everyone to be happy.
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Post by sbc95 on Oct 20, 2019 20:24:05 GMT -5
All I can say is .. Who is afraid of the big bad wolf Clyde and Bellevue... Adding Fremont could surely ease the pain for Fremont and definitely be competitive for all lake teams ...
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Post by areafan1 on Oct 20, 2019 22:17:31 GMT -5
I also think the SBC Lake should try and get Clay.
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Post by Keith on Oct 21, 2019 10:37:14 GMT -5
I also think the SBC Lake should try and get Clay. And it is possible that Clay would join. But it would not long-term. Once a spot opens in the NLL, Clay will take it.
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Post by Mike Hula on Oct 21, 2019 10:47:25 GMT -5
I also think the SBC Lake should try and get Clay. Don't need them at all and the baggage they bring.
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Post by maplecityjake on Oct 21, 2019 10:51:49 GMT -5
Flier62 I agree something has to be done in regards to finding competition that suits us.Alot of fremonters dont like 1-9 possible and are shocked.Well Fremont has NOT gone 1-9 since 2003 right after U.S. invaded Iraq and chuck Lindsey was coaching.My concern are lower numbers in 7th grade Shadow A drunk huh, you oughta be ashamed calling someone drunk when there sick and dying IDK maybe it made you feel good idk.its a shame..Maybe instead of criticizing maybe see what fremonts next moves are. Anyone that follows Fremont football shouldn't be surprised their 1-9 with no more talent then they have. Anyone that blame Coach Long for this doesn't understand football. If Long leaves who are they going to get thats any better, Ross isn't the Ross of old and never will be. There isn't any Woodson, Lytle or McCarthy in Fremont any more. I was told Ross next move is their going to re-apply to the SBC this year. Tell Clyde AD and principle to change their mind for everyone to be happy. Unfortunately, quite a few blame Long for this. Their claim is the worst defenses in Ross History has been under Long.
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Post by John on Oct 21, 2019 13:01:55 GMT -5
I saw this way back in week 1 we were going 1-9 ,possible .Our kids played hard friday thru 4th qtr and kids have not quit and that's good for growth.
It's not chad longs fault, he played a tough hand this year.Kids haven't quit shows that...
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Post by John on Oct 21, 2019 13:19:07 GMT -5
Maplecity
Bad defenses for ross,who do we play every year in trac and there great offenses .not to mention non league recently...
Oh well dead horse past.Does any fremonter on here know fremonts ending up in trac ? Who got us there bucci? Or chad ? Thanks guys.
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Post by sbc95 on Oct 21, 2019 14:37:12 GMT -5
I did a little research and talking to some Friends who have kids playing in sports at Fremont.. I asked WHY numbers are down for football and the answer was grades .. laziness and too HOT to practice..seems to me this is on the Parents ... I guess some kids just got to practice when they feel like it and the coaching staff put a STOP to that .. If you don’t show you don’t play.. And if you mis so many practices you are OFF the team .. .. These days kids are lazy and don’t do nothing but go home and play games ... When is the last time you seen kids outside playing football.. Even touch football .. Back in the day that all that was happening and where ever you could get a game .. That hoes for baseball .. Basketball,, YOU just don’t see it anymore.. Parents back in the day would tell their kids ... OUTSIDE.. But not NO MORE!!
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Post by coachdappling on Oct 21, 2019 18:42:23 GMT -5
I also think the SBC Lake should try and get Clay. Don't need them at all and the baggage they bring. What baggage? I ask because the NLL took Napoleon over them because of their "baggage" and the fact that they "burned bridges." I heard that but have no clue what they were talking about
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Post by John on Oct 21, 2019 19:38:34 GMT -5
Our low numbers in middle school 45 on varsity this is even with no pay to plwy.I recall we tried NOL but back then we had decent numbers in middle school.Alot happens in 10 years..
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Post by maplecityjake on Oct 22, 2019 5:34:33 GMT -5
I did a little research and talking to some Friends who have kids playing in sports at Fremont.. I asked WHY numbers are down for football and the answer was grades .. laziness and too HOT to practice..seems to me this is on the Parents ... I guess some kids just got to practice when they feel like it and the coaching staff put a STOP to that .. If you don’t show you don’t play.. And if you mis so many practices you are OFF the team .. .. These days kids are lazy and don’t do nothing but go home and play games ... When is the last time you seen kids outside playing football.. Even touch football .. Back in the day that all that was happening and where ever you could get a game .. That hoes for baseball .. Basketball,, YOU just don’t see it anymore.. Parents back in the day would tell their kids ... OUTSIDE.. But not NO MORE!! Who do those kids think they are? Charles Woodson?
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Post by maplecityjake on Oct 22, 2019 5:37:34 GMT -5
Don't need them at all and the baggage they bring. What baggage? I ask because the NLL took Napoleon over them because of their "baggage" and the fact that they "burned bridges." I heard that but have no clue what they were talking about From what I understand, Clay's pitch was more along the lines of "woe is me" being in TCL while Napoleon's pitch was all the great things Napoleon could offer being a potential NLL member.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 22, 2019 11:23:56 GMT -5
I did a little research and talking to some Friends who have kids playing in sports at Fremont.. I asked WHY numbers are down for football and the answer was grades .. laziness and too HOT to practice..seems to me this is on the Parents ... I guess some kids just got to practice when they feel like it and the coaching staff put a STOP to that .. If you don’t show you don’t play.. And if you mis so many practices you are OFF the team .. .. These days kids are lazy and don’t do nothing but go home and play games ... When is the last time you seen kids outside playing football.. Even touch football .. Back in the day that all that was happening and where ever you could get a game .. That hoes for baseball .. Basketball,, YOU just don’t see it anymore.. Parents back in the day would tell their kids ... OUTSIDE.. But not NO MORE!! "Too HOT to practice". That would be the coaches fault. Practice from 7:00AM to 9:00AM 2nd practice of the day From 7:00PM to 9:00PM avoiding the heat of the day during 2 a days. That's what was done by coaches that didn't mind getting up at 6 or giving up their evenings for only a month.
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Post by maplecityjake on Oct 22, 2019 11:51:56 GMT -5
I did a little research and talking to some Friends who have kids playing in sports at Fremont.. I asked WHY numbers are down for football and the answer was grades .. laziness and too HOT to practice..seems to me this is on the Parents ... I guess some kids just got to practice when they feel like it and the coaching staff put a STOP to that .. If you don’t show you don’t play.. And if you mis so many practices you are OFF the team .. .. These days kids are lazy and don’t do nothing but go home and play games ... When is the last time you seen kids outside playing football.. Even touch football .. Back in the day that all that was happening and where ever you could get a game .. That hoes for baseball .. Basketball,, YOU just don’t see it anymore.. Parents back in the day would tell their kids ... OUTSIDE.. But not NO MORE!! "Too HOT to practice". That would be the coaches fault. Practice from 7:00AM to 9:00AM 2nd practice of the day From 7:00PM to 9:00PM avoiding the heat of the day during 2 a days. That's what was done by coaches that didn't mind getting up at 6 or giving up their evenings for only a month. Irrevant because those kids would have found another excuse not to practice. Aside from Football, if anyone had paid attention, Ross Athletics just isn't good, and one can't solely say it's the TRAC. Ross would be eaten alive in the Lake.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 22, 2019 11:58:16 GMT -5
I was talking in generalities about football practices. I could care less about Ross athletics
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Post by maplecityjake on Oct 22, 2019 12:02:55 GMT -5
I was talking in generalities about football practices. I could care less about Ross athletics I'm sure you don't. At any rate, there's a cultural problem in Little Giants Country.
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Post by falcon87 on Oct 22, 2019 15:39:13 GMT -5
I did a little research and talking to some Friends who have kids playing in sports at Fremont.. I asked WHY numbers are down for football and the answer was grades .. laziness and too HOT to practice..seems to me this is on the Parents ... I guess some kids just got to practice when they feel like it and the coaching staff put a STOP to that .. If you don’t show you don’t play.. And if you mis so many practices you are OFF the team .. .. These days kids are lazy and don’t do nothing but go home and play games ... When is the last time you seen kids outside playing football.. Even touch football .. Back in the day that all that was happening and where ever you could get a game .. That hoes for baseball .. Basketball,, YOU just don’t see it anymore.. Parents back in the day would tell their kids ... OUTSIDE.. But not NO MORE!! "Too HOT to practice". That would be the coaches fault. Practice from 7:00AM to 9:00AM 2nd practice of the day From 7:00PM to 9:00PM avoiding the heat of the day during 2 a days. That's what was done by coaches that didn't mind getting up at 6 or giving up their evenings for only a month. Most assistants and many head coaches are working jobs outside of teaching. It's not a matter of giving up evenings and mornings, it's a matter of what time is available with their work schedule. I've heard of more teams going strictly afternoons because that matches the work schedule of people available to coach the next 10 weeks of the season. Two-a-days in August, 7-on-7 in July, and weight lifting / conditioning 11 months seems like more is being done by coaches now than "was done by coaches" in the past. And with this you may be able to see the reason the numbers are down for football as well. Kids put in more time and coaches put in more time than ever before if they want to compete. Those who don't put in the time face a running clock.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 22, 2019 15:48:13 GMT -5
I find it hard to believe coaches are more likely to be working from 7:00PM to 9:00PM compared to 10:00AM to 2:00PM
Need coaches whose schedule is best for the kids. Not whats best for assistants
Most schools have full time strength and conditioning coaches responsible for the weight room.
Only need a couple of coaches at 7 on 7s
Even more important to have dedicated coaches, if not, why should kids be dedicated?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 22, 2019 16:01:11 GMT -5
I was talking in generalities about football practices. I could care less about Ross athletics I'm sure you don't. At any rate, there's a cultural problem in Little Giants Country. You don't think there's one in Tyger Town?
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Post by maplecityjake on Oct 22, 2019 16:24:40 GMT -5
I'm sure you don't. At any rate, there's a cultural problem in Little Giants Country. You don't think there's one in Tyger Town? I don't know. Their money sports seem to do well at the very least. At any rate, this is a Ross thread and a school where I'm an alum. I didn't know I was to comment about Mansfield. ;p
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 22, 2019 16:50:53 GMT -5
Cultural problems aren't specific to particular communities, overcoming them are.
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Post by John on Oct 22, 2019 19:09:20 GMT -5
Keith
I sent you an amended middle school numbers update.
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Post by John on Oct 22, 2019 19:35:31 GMT -5
Jake
Ross hasn't had a 1-9 season in almost 20 years.Talk about culture didnt Norwalk have 19 game LOSING streak? At one time norwalk had a 31 consecutive years WITH a losing record from 1978 to 2010.Jesus I recall that
I recall you telling me prior 2010 what was Norwalk's problem was good at soccer and competes in NOL well.
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