MOAC 2019-2020

[utsherman]

Lexington 32
Shelby 16
Half

[utsherman]

Lexington 44
Shelby 32
End of 3Q

[utsherman]

Lexington 59
Shelby 40
Late in 4Q

Whippets with a few JV and role players in the game now.

[mrsteel]

Ontario-53
Madison-44 Final

Coburn with 22 and shaver with 17

Ontario takes Jv game 45-39

[utsherman]

Lexington 71
Shelby 53
Final

[gt1975]

Galion 47
Mansfield St Pete's 52

Final

[moacpops]

I think the MOAC is gettin exposed against other teams. Tournament time is not looking good. Two teams over .500 in the regular season

[Willard Fillmore]

Feb 21, 2020 21:11:15 GMT -5 mrsteel said:

Ontario-53
Madison-44 Final

Colburn with 22 and shaver with 17

Ontario takes Jv game 45-39

A LOT of fouls called against Madison. They are not a good offensive team, so they want to turn the game into a foul shooting contest. They don't even try to hide it. Terrible at moving their feet on defense. Resort to grabbing and pushing with their hands. Then whine to the officials that they haven't done anything wrong. The uglier the game the better chance they have of winning. Ontario tried to help in the first quarter by taking many questionable shots, making very few. Tackett was well scouted. He only has one move, but is good at it. When putting the ball on the floor he always spins to his left. Ontario always had help there waiting for the spin, doubled him and he had to give it up.

Kurtz didn't make a basket and has been shooting poorly of late. If he can't make a few 3-pointers, Ontario doesn't have a chance against Lex. 

Ontario JVs finish the season 20-2. Two close losses, one each to Pleasant and River Valley. 

[dude]

Feb 21, 2020 21:57:30 GMT -5 moacpops said:

I think the MOAC is gettin exposed against other teams. Tournament time is not looking good. Two teams over .500 in the regular season

MOAC vs OCC?

[Willard Fillmore]

No, MOAC vs the world. There is more to high school basketball than just the OCC. Albeit one of those sub .500 MOAC teams beat Lex twice this year. 

[moacpops]

Thomas Worthington 59
Marion Harding 22
Sectional semifinal

[gt1975]

Galion finished the season 2-21. The 21 losses is tied for the most losses Galion has had in a season (1988-89, 0-21). Their average scoring margin this season was -16.7 which ranks 7th worst in Galion history. They allowed an average of 67.3 ppg, 10th most in a season and most since the 2005-06 season when they allowed an average of 67.66 ppg.

Bobby Gossom, Galion's coach, now has a career varsity record of 5-104 (0-42 Lucas-boys, 3-41 Crestline-girls, 2-21 Galion-boys). He has never won a conference game as a varsity coach (0-70).

Not sure of the exact win totals but Jv finished with 4 or 5, 9th had 1 or 2, 8th and 7th both had 2 or 3. So I'm not sure if the next few years are going to be any better. Especially now that we lose our 2nd all time scorer who was an All-Ohioan and 3 time first team All-MOAC player.... I've heard it's possible that Gossom's son, Riley, may be transferring here next year which would help a lot but we'll see if it actually happens.

[dude]

Feb 29, 2020 18:55:40 GMT -5 gt1975 said:

Galion finished the season 2-21. The 21 losses is tied for the most losses Galion has had in a season (1988-89, 0-21). Their average scoring margin this season was -16.7 which ranks 7th worst in Galion history. They allowed an average of 67.3 ppg, 10th most in a season and most since the 2005-06 season when they allowed an average of 67.66 ppg.

Bobby Gossom, Galion's coach, now has a career varsity record of 5-104 (0-42 Lucas-boys, 3-41 Crestline-girls, 2-21 Galion-boys). He has never won a conference game as a varsity coach (0-70).

Not sure of the exact win totals but Jv finished with 4 or 5, 9th had 1 or 2, 8th and 7th both had 2 or 3. So I'm not sure if the next few years are going to be any better. Especially now that we lose our 2nd all time scorer who was an All-Ohioan and 3 time first team All-MOAC player.... I've heard it's possible that Gossom's son, Riley, may be transferring here next year which would help a lot but we'll see if it actually happens.

I'm not sure why the Gossom coaching record is needed as a re-portable fact unless you have an ax to grind. If we are being total disclosure Gossom applied for the position and was released as the 3rd option. Only when the top 2 guys decided to walk away after interviews he was then contacted again to offer him the job. From a big picture you may be thankful to even have a coach, as more guys have walked away from the spot than wanted to apply.

[galion]

Feb 29, 2020 18:55:40 GMT -5 gt1975 said:

Galion finished the season 2-21. The 21 losses is tied for the most losses Galion has had in a season (1988-89, 0-21). Their average scoring margin this season was -16.7 which ranks 7th worst in Galion history. They allowed an average of 67.3 ppg, 10th most in a season and most since the 2005-06 season when they allowed an average of 67.66 ppg.

Bobby Gossom, Galion's coach, now has a career varsity record of 5-104 (0-42 Lucas-boys, 3-41 Crestline-girls, 2-21 Galion-boys). He has never won a conference game as a varsity coach (0-70).

Not sure of the exact win totals but Jv finished with 4 or 5, 9th had 1 or 2, 8th and 7th both had 2 or 3. So I'm not sure if the next few years are going to be any better. Especially now that we lose our 2nd all time scorer who was an All-Ohioan and 3 time first team All-MOAC player.... I've heard it's possible that Gossom's son, Riley, may be transferring here next year which would help a lot but we'll see if it actually happens.

Isn't his son a senior next season?  Granted he's dating a Galion girl(as are several LucaS bball players) but why transfer for his senior year?  I have a feeling that it's more likely that Gossom will step down to watch his kid play.  Somewhere Valentine must be laughing his behind off right now.

[galion]

Mar 1, 2020 0:58:27 GMT -5 dude said:

Feb 29, 2020 18:55:40 GMT -5 gt1975 said:

Galion finished the season 2-21. The 21 losses is tied for the most losses Galion has had in a season (1988-89, 0-21). Their average scoring margin this season was -16.7 which ranks 7th worst in Galion history. They allowed an average of 67.3 ppg, 10th most in a season and most since the 2005-06 season when they allowed an average of 67.66 ppg.

Bobby Gossom, Galion's coach, now has a career varsity record of 5-104 (0-42 Lucas-boys, 3-41 Crestline-girls, 2-21 Galion-boys). He has never won a conference game as a varsity coach (0-70).

Not sure of the exact win totals but Jv finished with 4 or 5, 9th had 1 or 2, 8th and 7th both had 2 or 3. So I'm not sure if the next few years are going to be any better. Especially now that we lose our 2nd all time scorer who was an All-Ohioan and 3 time first team All-MOAC player.... I've heard it's possible that Gossom's son, Riley, may be transferring here next year which would help a lot but we'll see if it actually happens.

I'm not sure why the Gossom coaching record is needed as a re-portable fact unless you have an ax to grind. If we are being total disclosure Gossom applied for the position and was released as the 3rd option. Only when the top 2 guys decided to walk away after interviews he was then contacted again to offer him the job. From a big picture you may be thankful to even have a coach, as more guys have walked away from the spot than wanted to apply.

As excited as some on here were to finally have a coach with varsity experience, I don't think that anyone foresaw Gossom leading a team with Alsip on it to the same number of wins as the Galion girls team.  Let that sink in for a second and then tell me why his coaching record isn't relevant in this discussion.  Thank God my daughter chose to wrestle after her freshman year.

[gt1975]

Mar 1, 2020 0:58:27 GMT -5 dude said:

Feb 29, 2020 18:55:40 GMT -5 gt1975 said:

Galion finished the season 2-21. The 21 losses is tied for the most losses Galion has had in a season (1988-89, 0-21). Their average scoring margin this season was -16.7 which ranks 7th worst in Galion history. They allowed an average of 67.3 ppg, 10th most in a season and most since the 2005-06 season when they allowed an average of 67.66 ppg.

Bobby Gossom, Galion's coach, now has a career varsity record of 5-104 (0-42 Lucas-boys, 3-41 Crestline-girls, 2-21 Galion-boys). He has never won a conference game as a varsity coach (0-70).

Not sure of the exact win totals but Jv finished with 4 or 5, 9th had 1 or 2, 8th and 7th both had 2 or 3. So I'm not sure if the next few years are going to be any better. Especially now that we lose our 2nd all time scorer who was an All-Ohioan and 3 time first team All-MOAC player.... I've heard it's possible that Gossom's son, Riley, may be transferring here next year which would help a lot but we'll see if it actually happens.

I'm not sure why the Gossom coaching record is needed as a re-portable fact unless you have an ax to grind. If we are being total disclosure Gossom applied for the position and was released as the 3rd option. Only when the top 2 guys decided to walk away after interviews he was then contacted again to offer him the job. From a big picture you may be thankful to even have a coach, as more guys have walked away from the spot than wanted to apply.

No ax to grind, just reporting a fact about our coach. I think most people would see that as an interesting record.... From a big picture he may be thankful that Galion hired him because I don't think any other school was going to give him another Varsity chance.

[gt1975]

Mar 1, 2020 5:52:39 GMT -5 galion said:

Feb 29, 2020 18:55:40 GMT -5 gt1975 said:

Galion finished the season 2-21. The 21 losses is tied for the most losses Galion has had in a season (1988-89, 0-21). Their average scoring margin this season was -16.7 which ranks 7th worst in Galion history. They allowed an average of 67.3 ppg, 10th most in a season and most since the 2005-06 season when they allowed an average of 67.66 ppg.

Bobby Gossom, Galion's coach, now has a career varsity record of 5-104 (0-42 Lucas-boys, 3-41 Crestline-girls, 2-21 Galion-boys). He has never won a conference game as a varsity coach (0-70).

Not sure of the exact win totals but Jv finished with 4 or 5, 9th had 1 or 2, 8th and 7th both had 2 or 3. So I'm not sure if the next few years are going to be any better. Especially now that we lose our 2nd all time scorer who was an All-Ohioan and 3 time first team All-MOAC player.... I've heard it's possible that Gossom's son, Riley, may be transferring here next year which would help a lot but we'll see if it actually happens.

Isn't his son a senior next season?  Granted he's dating a Galion girl(as are several LucaS bball players) but why transfer for his senior year?  I have a feeling that it's more likely that Gossom will step down to watch his kid play.  Somewhere Valentine must be laughing his behind off right now.

I don't know much about Lucas but I think they're graduating most of their Varsity contributors and their Jv team is bad (lost to Galion). So he wouldn't be missing a special season like they're having this year and most importantly it would give him the chance to play for his dad. I think he wants to transfer to Galion but his mom wants him to stay in Lucas.... I don't see Gossom stepping down unless he's having problems with players/parents/administrators. Like I just stated and stated when he was hired, Galion was probably the last chance he had at coaching Varsity. He's been trying to get another Varsity position since leaving Crestline so he may not get another Varsity job if he resigns.

[dude]

Mar 1, 2020 6:11:48 GMT -5 galion said:

Mar 1, 2020 0:58:27 GMT -5 dude said:

I'm not sure why the Gossom coaching record is needed as a re-portable fact unless you have an ax to grind. If we are being total disclosure Gossom applied for the position and was released as the 3rd option. Only when the top 2 guys decided to walk away after interviews he was then contacted again to offer him the job. From a big picture you may be thankful to even have a coach, as more guys have walked away from the spot than wanted to apply.

As excited as some on here were to finally have a coach with varsity experience, I don't think that anyone foresaw Gossom leading a team with Alsip on it to the same number of wins as the Galion girls team.  Let that sink in for a second and then tell me why his coaching record isn't relevant in this discussion.  Thank God my daughter chose to wrestle after her freshman year.

It's my belief that what needs to sink in is the applicants for the position. The program's position has more to do with the actions of the parents and students than it does the coach's previous record. The program has had 3 winning seasons in the last 20 years and that spans 7 coaches. Maybe its about time to consider the coach may not the issue. 

[dude]

Mar 1, 2020 9:17:47 GMT -5 gt1975 said:

Mar 1, 2020 0:58:27 GMT -5 dude said:

I'm not sure why the Gossom coaching record is needed as a re-portable fact unless you have an ax to grind. If we are being total disclosure Gossom applied for the position and was released as the 3rd option. Only when the top 2 guys decided to walk away after interviews he was then contacted again to offer him the job. From a big picture you may be thankful to even have a coach, as more guys have walked away from the spot than wanted to apply.

No ax to grind, just reporting a fact about our coach. I think most people would see that as an interesting record.... From a big picture he may be thankful that Galion hired him because I don't think any other school was going to give him another Varsity chance.

You may be correct. Also, most people might find interesting is that during the last two searches to fill this position in the last 4 years, multiple veteran candidates with positive resumes have decided to pull their interest after going thru a first or second interview process. Why is this? Someone should definitely be "thankful" this position was filled, I'm not sure it is one sided though. 

[utsherman]

Mar 1, 2020 0:58:27 GMT -5 dude said:

Feb 29, 2020 18:55:40 GMT -5 gt1975 said:

Galion finished the season 2-21. The 21 losses is tied for the most losses Galion has had in a season (1988-89, 0-21). Their average scoring margin this season was -16.7 which ranks 7th worst in Galion history. They allowed an average of 67.3 ppg, 10th most in a season and most since the 2005-06 season when they allowed an average of 67.66 ppg.

Bobby Gossom, Galion's coach, now has a career varsity record of 5-104 (0-42 Lucas-boys, 3-41 Crestline-girls, 2-21 Galion-boys). He has never won a conference game as a varsity coach (0-70).

Not sure of the exact win totals but Jv finished with 4 or 5, 9th had 1 or 2, 8th and 7th both had 2 or 3. So I'm not sure if the next few years are going to be any better. Especially now that we lose our 2nd all time scorer who was an All-Ohioan and 3 time first team All-MOAC player.... I've heard it's possible that Gossom's son, Riley, may be transferring here next year which would help a lot but we'll see if it actually happens.

I'm not sure why the Gossom coaching record is needed as a re-portable fact unless you have an ax to grind. If we are being total disclosure Gossom applied for the position and was released as the 3rd option. Only when the top 2 guys decided to walk away after interviews he was then contacted again to offer him the job. From a big picture you may be thankful to even have a coach, as more guys have walked away from the spot than wanted to apply.

Interesting comment. I seem to remember you referencing Loney’s coaching experience and resume after getting the Shelby job. Based upon your own criteria here, I guess you had an ax to grind as well.

[dude]

Mar 1, 2020 12:37:53 GMT -5 utsherman said:

Mar 1, 2020 0:58:27 GMT -5 dude said:

I'm not sure why the Gossom coaching record is needed as a re-portable fact unless you have an ax to grind. If we are being total disclosure Gossom applied for the position and was released as the 3rd option. Only when the top 2 guys decided to walk away after interviews he was then contacted again to offer him the job. From a big picture you may be thankful to even have a coach, as more guys have walked away from the spot than wanted to apply.

Interesting comment. I seem to remember you referencing Loney’s coaching experience and resume after getting the Shelby job. Based upon your own criteria here, I guess you had an ax to grind as well.

No ax at all, I was only surprised with Shelby because they are a school that winning records in 14 of the last 20 years before hiring a very young unproven coach. This season has gone well so the choice was not a bad one, but it was surprising. And even your coach admitted the same thing in an interview this season.

[gt1975]

Mar 1, 2020 12:37:53 GMT -5 utsherman said:

Mar 1, 2020 0:58:27 GMT -5 dude said:

I'm not sure why the Gossom coaching record is needed as a re-portable fact unless you have an ax to grind. If we are being total disclosure Gossom applied for the position and was released as the 3rd option. Only when the top 2 guys decided to walk away after interviews he was then contacted again to offer him the job. From a big picture you may be thankful to even have a coach, as more guys have walked away from the spot than wanted to apply.

Interesting comment. I seem to remember you referencing Loney’s coaching experience and resume after getting the Shelby job. Based upon your own criteria here, I guess you had an ax to grind as well.

The difference is that Dude doesn't know Loney. He clearly knows Gossom pretty well so he's going to defend him and act like somebody has an ax to grind for posting his 5-104 record.

[dnis30]

Mar 1, 2020 9:25:43 GMT -5 gt1975 said:

Mar 1, 2020 5:52:39 GMT -5 galion said:

Isn't his son a senior next season?  Granted he's dating a Galion girl(as are several LucaS bball players) but why transfer for his senior year?  I have a feeling that it's more likely that Gossom will step down to watch his kid play.  Somewhere Valentine must be laughing his behind off right now.

I don't know much about Lucas but I think they're graduating most of their Varsity contributors and their Jv team is bad (lost to Galion). So he wouldn't be missing a special season like they're having this year and most importantly it would give him the chance to play for his dad. I think he wants to transfer to Galion but his mom wants him to stay in Lucas.... I don't see Gossom stepping down unless he's having problems with players/parents/administrators. Like I just stated and stated when he was hired, Galion was probably the last chance he had at coaching Varsity. He's been trying to get another Varsity position since leaving Crestline so he may not get another Varsity job if he resigns.

I live in Lucas, and I would be absolutely shocked if Gossom left Lucas for Galion. Riley's step-dad is the Lucas JV coach, and he will have his two younger brothers playing HS basketball for Lucas next year as well. Along with Gossom, Lucas will return 2 other starters and one bench player for next season. They have a couple kids who could contribute off the JV squad too. They will still be very solid moving forward.

[dude]

Mar 2, 2020 12:22:41 GMT -5 gt1975 said:

Mar 1, 2020 12:37:53 GMT -5 utsherman said:

Interesting comment. I seem to remember you referencing Loney’s coaching experience and resume after getting the Shelby job. Based upon your own criteria here, I guess you had an ax to grind as well.

The difference is that Dude doesn't know Loney. He clearly knows Gossom pretty well so he's going to defend him and act like somebody has an ax to grind for posting his 5-104 record.

This would be incorrect as I know both. One is older than the other and has been around the area a little longer but I first met Coach Loney when he was playing at Danville.

[gt1975]

Mar 2, 2020 13:42:23 GMT -5 dnis30 said:

Mar 1, 2020 9:25:43 GMT -5 gt1975 said:

I don't know much about Lucas but I think they're graduating most of their Varsity contributors and their Jv team is bad (lost to Galion). So he wouldn't be missing a special season like they're having this year and most importantly it would give him the chance to play for his dad. I think he wants to transfer to Galion but his mom wants him to stay in Lucas.... I don't see Gossom stepping down unless he's having problems with players/parents/administrators. Like I just stated and stated when he was hired, Galion was probably the last chance he had at coaching Varsity. He's been trying to get another Varsity position since leaving Crestline so he may not get another Varsity job if he resigns.

I live in Lucas, and I would be absolutely shocked if Gossom left Lucas for Galion. Riley's step-dad is the Lucas JV coach, and he will have his two younger brothers playing HS basketball for Lucas next year as well. Along with Gossom, Lucas will return 2 other starters and one bench player for next season. They have a couple kids who could contribute off the JV squad too. They will still be very solid moving forward.

I knew his step-dad was a coach but I didn't know about his brothers or what next year's roster was going to be like. Thanks for the info. I agree that it's more likely that he returns to Lucas but I still think there's a small chance he comes to Galion.

[dude]

Mar 2, 2020 15:51:07 GMT -5 gt1975 said:

Mar 2, 2020 13:42:23 GMT -5 dnis30 said:

I live in Lucas, and I would be absolutely shocked if Gossom left Lucas for Galion. Riley's step-dad is the Lucas JV coach, and he will have his two younger brothers playing HS basketball for Lucas next year as well. Along with Gossom, Lucas will return 2 other starters and one bench player for next season. They have a couple kids who could contribute off the JV squad too. They will still be very solid moving forward.

I knew his step-dad was a coach but I didn't know about his brothers or what next year's roster was going to be like. Thanks for the info. I agree that it's more likely that he returns to Lucas but I still think there's a small chance he comes to Galion.

What would make you think there was this chance? What does Galion offer that Lucas does not?

[Deleted]

Mar 2, 2020 15:15:40 GMT -5 dude said:

Mar 2, 2020 12:22:41 GMT -5 gt1975 said:

The difference is that Dude doesn't know Loney. He clearly knows Gossom pretty well so he's going to defend him and act like somebody has an ax to grind for posting his 5-104 record.

This would be incorrect as I know both. One is older than the other and has been around the area a little longer but I first met Coach Loney when he was playing at Danville.

Loney is new to the area hard to believe... first and foremost you shouldn’t base your opinion on a new coach based off of previous coaching record.

[dude]

Mar 3, 2020 9:54:05 GMT -5 @devil28 said:

Mar 2, 2020 15:15:40 GMT -5 dude said:

This would be incorrect as I know both. One is older than the other and has been around the area a little longer but I first met Coach Loney when he was playing at Danville.

Loney is new to the area hard to believe... first and foremost you shouldn’t base your opinion on a new coach based off of previous coaching record.

I can agree with that and I did not. I was surprised a school with a successful history would select someone without a previous longer coaching record. My surprise had nothing to do with wins and losses, it was based only on experience. Coach Loney said the same thing in an interview.

[gt1975]

Mar 2, 2020 20:34:02 GMT -5 dude said:

Mar 2, 2020 15:51:07 GMT -5 gt1975 said:

I knew his step-dad was a coach but I didn't know about his brothers or what next year's roster was going to be like. Thanks for the info. I agree that it's more likely that he returns to Lucas but I still think there's a small chance he comes to Galion.

What would make you think there was this chance? What does Galion offer that Lucas does not?

Anytime a kid has a parent coaching at a different school there's a chance he might go there. Also he's told kids from Galion he wants to.

[dude]

Mar 3, 2020 10:56:52 GMT -5 gt1975 said:

Mar 2, 2020 20:34:02 GMT -5 dude said:

What would make you think there was this chance? What does Galion offer that Lucas does not?

Anytime a kid has a parent coaching at a different school there's a chance he might go there. Also he's told kids from Galion he wants to.

Talk to the boys coach at Upper Sandusky if you want to put odds on the chance it happens. Most kids would tell others they would enjoy playing for their Dad. Since his entire career has been at Lucas, I hope he stays.