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Post by radiodavel on Oct 23, 2019 16:09:32 GMT -5
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Post by kritz on Oct 23, 2019 16:27:52 GMT -5
They have a history of playing oven doors... However I feel sorry for the kids but the scheduling is out of their hands
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2019 9:19:41 GMT -5
They have a history of playing oven doors... However I feel sorry for the kids but the scheduling is out of their hands It has more to do with the schools in their region than Gibsonburg’s schedule, which their non-conference isn’t half bad actually (Ottawa Hills, Woodmore, Mohawk...tossed Antwerp in there to replace Saint Mary)
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Post by areafan1 on Oct 24, 2019 9:39:44 GMT -5
They have a history of playing oven doors... However I feel sorry for the kids but the scheduling is out of their hands I take it you mean bad teams? I think thats why they got of the TAAC (possibly the worst league in the state), the the SBC River is better but not as good as they expected. St. Mary, Danbury and St. Joe are much worst then normal and throw in Woodmore.
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Post by 1percenter on Oct 24, 2019 12:10:27 GMT -5
Maybe they should bump themselves up to the Bay for football only
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Post by falcon87 on Oct 24, 2019 16:48:38 GMT -5
3 of 4 regions they make it in D-6 and even 3 of 4 in D-5 as well. Wrong year to be pushed to a different region plus replacing St Mary with winless Antwerp at the last minute put them in this position.
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Post by fossywriter8 on Oct 24, 2019 21:30:28 GMT -5
Calvert only playing nine games will also play a role.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Oct 25, 2019 7:46:47 GMT -5
^ and Margaretta as well
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Post by kritz on Oct 26, 2019 13:14:25 GMT -5
Looks like they are pretty much done with any chance of getting in.
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Post by Ramsfan09 on Oct 26, 2019 15:53:15 GMT -5
Doesn't matter any of those top teams in the region would blow them out
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Post by kritz on Oct 26, 2019 16:19:54 GMT -5
Agreed
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Post by sportsvideo on Oct 28, 2019 20:42:43 GMT -5
could you imagine if they did finish in the #8 spot and have to go play Liberty Center? OUCH !! they'd slip to 10-1 and get run ruled.
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Post by sportsvideo on Oct 28, 2019 20:44:19 GMT -5
Maybe they should bump themselves up to the Bay for football only they they would be 2-4 in the bay 6-4 overall... and still miss
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Post by areafan1 on Oct 30, 2019 10:56:51 GMT -5
Doesn't matter any of those top teams in the region would blow them out This does matter, remember this about/for the kids/players not what you think. Its for the players, parents, coaches and communities. I think the whole schedule isn't their fault. I figure their schedule out it all goes back the SMCC dropping football. 3 teams in the River had bye week and never found anyone to play, 2 other team lost their pickup game. Only Hopewell and Gibsonburg won. So all 5 league teams lost out wins in the River, which would have been 17.5 points. So at the end Gibsonburg would have 1.75 added on and probably made the playoff. I saw them play two games at St. Joe and Margaretta and they have a very good offense with 3 very good back and solid line. I'll beat their seniors would love to play one more game win or loss, because its about the players not us.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 11:14:26 GMT -5
Gibsonburg would be ranked 8th in region 2 and 4(D1). This clearly illustrates that it’s more the schools in their region than their schedule
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Post by dude on Oct 30, 2019 11:26:43 GMT -5
Gibsonburg would be ranked 8th in region 2 and 4(D1). This clearly illustrates that it’s more the schools in their region than their schedule Regions 2 and 4 have nothing to do with Gibsonburg and if they were in either of those regions they probably would not be playing D6 & D7 teams. Being 9-0 and currently ranked 10th in their own region, clearly illustrates that it's totally about their own schedule when every school ranked above them in their own region has at least 1 loss and one has 3 losses.
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Post by falcon87 on Oct 30, 2019 16:13:01 GMT -5
Their schedule, as weak as the River division has become, is still strong enough to make the other 3 regions. This is one loaded region and if you can’t see this you don’t follow small division football. Each team can only have one opponent a week and with schools skating on the 11 man / 8 man decision line the math gets trickier.
Easy answer - get a tougher schedule. When D6 schools schedule they must consider the depth of their team and their opponents to hedge against getting too beat up. Injury in week 10 at Willard cost the Bears dearly in the playoffs last year. Starting QB / best DB lost late in that game made a disaster in week11.
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Post by areafan1 on Oct 30, 2019 20:03:06 GMT -5
Gibsonburg would be ranked 8th in region 2 and 4(D1). This clearly illustrates that it’s more the schools in their region than their schedule Regions 2 and 4 have nothing to do with Gibsonburg and if they were in either of those regions they probably would not be playing D6 & D7 teams. Being 9-0 and currently ranked 10th in their own region, clearly illustrates that it's totally about their own schedule when every school ranked above them in their own region has at least 1 loss and one has 3 losses. Obviously you didn't read post above. Its not their schedule its St. Marys for dropping out in mid August!!!
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Post by dude on Oct 30, 2019 20:42:52 GMT -5
Regions 2 and 4 have nothing to do with Gibsonburg and if they were in either of those regions they probably would not be playing D6 & D7 teams. Being 9-0 and currently ranked 10th in their own region, clearly illustrates that it's totally about their own schedule when every school ranked above them in their own region has at least 1 loss and one has 3 losses. Obviously you didn't read post above. Its not their schedule its St. Marys for dropping out in mid August!!! It's clearly the schedule when you go 9-0 and can't build up enough points to be in the playoffs.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 30, 2019 20:52:35 GMT -5
Regions 2 and 4 have nothing to do with Gibsonburg and if they were in either of those regions they probably would not be playing D6 & D7 teams. Being 9-0 and currently ranked 10th in their own region, clearly illustrates that it's totally about their own schedule when every school ranked above them in their own region has at least 1 loss and one has 3 losses. Obviously you didn't read post above. Its not their schedule its St. Marys for dropping out in mid August!!! Obviously you have no idea how the Harbin Points formula works, nor how a team's divisor is affected by an open date!!!!
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Post by sportsvideo on Oct 31, 2019 12:00:35 GMT -5
So experts? why didn't someone point out to gibsonburg that before the season they would go 10-0 and miss the playoffs? I was looking for the post but couldnt find it... It is great to wait till after the season and determine that,, but how bout you do that two years in advance... Find an opponent who has the same window open that you do, that isn't half way across the globe, that you feel you have a chance of beating that will also win games. It isn't that easy.. And No they don't want to play against the Bay teams that are having winning seasons this year...
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Post by John on Oct 31, 2019 15:33:21 GMT -5
Gibsonburg is ranked 10th this week in division 6.
Well deserved !
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 31, 2019 22:57:45 GMT -5
So experts? why didn't someone point out to gibsonburg that before the season they would go 10-0 and miss the playoffs? I was looking for the post but couldnt find it... It is great to wait till after the season and determine that,, but how bout you do that two years in advance... Find an opponent who has the same window open that you do, that isn't half way across the globe, that you feel you have a chance of beating that will also win games. It isn't that easy.. And No they don't want to play against the Bay teams that are having winning seasons this year... No experts are needed. Making the playoffs is NOT about one "season". Teams can not do anything about how weak their league or division is other than getting out. HOWEVER, every year they have complete control over who their non-league opponents are. THAT is a failure of the head coach and AD.
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Post by tchldad on Nov 1, 2019 4:40:42 GMT -5
Just wondering why they got moved to 23? If they would’ve stayed in region 22, they would be sitting in 5th. Also, they can’t really control how other teams will be. Wasn’t Mohawk 10-0 last year, and Calvert is normally better than .500. Just really bad luck all together. Also, SMCC did not help anyone by dropping out last minute.
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Post by dude on Nov 1, 2019 7:38:34 GMT -5
So experts? why didn't someone point out to gibsonburg that before the season they would go 10-0 and miss the playoffs? I was looking for the post but couldnt find it... It is great to wait till after the season and determine that,, but how bout you do that two years in advance... Find an opponent who has the same window open that you do, that isn't half way across the globe, that you feel you have a chance of beating that will also win games. It isn't that easy.. And No they don't want to play against the Bay teams that are having winning seasons this year... Everyone has to wait until the end of the season to see their strength of schedule. Have you every watch high school football? My comments are not made with thoughts they can change their schedule weekly to improve it. I'm simply saying they are in the ranked position they are in because of their schedule and the superior strength of other teams schedules in their region. But they have no control over those other teams.
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Post by edchambers on Nov 1, 2019 10:21:45 GMT -5
Gibsonburg parents should've been more proactive. When they saw the playoff standings a few weeks ago, they should have banded together and hire an attorney from over by Lorain. File suit against the OHSAA seeking injunctive relief for moving them from Region 22 to Region 23. By not participating in the playoffs, players will lose out on scholarship opportunities and be traumatized by being on a 10-0 team that misses out on the playoffs.
Might have worked with the right judge if they were in Ottawa County.
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Post by Hummingbird on Nov 1, 2019 10:41:03 GMT -5
Gibsonburg parents should've been more proactive. When they saw the playoff standings a few weeks ago, they should have banded together and hire an attorney from over by Lorain. File suit against the OHSAA seeking injunctive relief for moving them from Region 22 to Region 23. By not participating in the playoffs, players will lose out on scholarship opportunities and be traumatized by being on a 10-0 team that misses out on the playoffs. Might have worked with the right judge if they were in Ottawa County. Would have to be a Gibsonburg Judge. Best post I've read in a LONG time.
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Post by sharonpeters on Nov 1, 2019 22:36:49 GMT -5
Just looking at Joe eitel and he has 10-0 Northwood at #9 missing the playoffs too.
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