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Post by DrTorch on Nov 1, 2019 17:40:05 GMT -5
How can an athlete make any money from his image, likeness or uniform if he doesn't have a business manager? AGAIN this is akin to a small business. Anyone run a business netting 100K/year?? How will an athlete on scholarship, going to classes, studying, taking tests, staying academically eligible, work outs with Coach Mick, film study, practices, and playing games. All done Mondays through Sundays, 52 weeks/year. This image/likeness business will add at a minimum of 20 hours/week to an already very busy and stressful schedule, if done without help. IMO, the ONLY way this will work and keep KIDS from f-ing up big time, by getting involved with blood sucking agents or business managers is for universities to give athletes a cut of the profits they currently make from their athletes images and likenesses. They do it FAR FAR better than any 18-20 year old business neophytes could do it. Who is to be trusted more? they don't make money off their likenesses anymore, don't you know who Ed O'Bannon is old man and why you can't get NCAA Football? good lord reading you and sportsjock agree on a topic is like watching two 18-month olds try to kill each other with boiled hot dogs You are a closet Socialist you pinko twat. I would trust the individual more than the Godless institution. Marx much? |
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Post by sportsjock on Nov 1, 2019 21:22:03 GMT -5
Contrary to what the immediate assumption seems to be, the NCAA still holds the upper hand on rules and guidelines.
If anyone is so naive to think a student will maintain eligibility after receiving cash payments for endorsements, imagery or whatever, they are in for a rude awakening. The NCAA won't stop the personal compensation, but they certainly have the final say on whether he/she will ever wear an athletic uniform and compete athletically for an NCAA sanctioned school.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 1, 2019 22:34:17 GMT -5
How can an athlete make any money from his image, likeness or uniform if he doesn't have a business manager? AGAIN this is akin to a small business. Anyone run a business netting 100K/year?? How will an athlete on scholarship, going to classes, studying, taking tests, staying academically eligible, work outs with Coach Mick, film study, practices, and playing games. All done Mondays through Sundays, 52 weeks/year. This image/likeness business will add at a minimum of 20 hours/week to an already very busy and stressful schedule, if done without help. IMO, the ONLY way this will work and keep KIDS from f-ing up big time, by getting involved with blood sucking agents or business managers is for universities to give athletes a cut of the profits they currently make from their athletes images and likenesses. They do it FAR FAR better than any 18-20 year old business neophytes could do it. Who is to be trusted more? they don't make money off their likenesses anymore, don't you know who Ed O'Bannon is old man and why you can't get NCAA Football? good lord reading you and sportsjock agree on a topic is like watching two 18-month olds try to kill each other with boiled hot dogs You are a closet Socialist you pinko twat. I would trust the individual more than the Godless institution. Marx much? You are a clueless ignoramus, that's incapable of reading what's right in front of your hate filled nose. I've made my fortune being a red, white and blue capitalist. Playing by the rules, yet getting as close to the line that should not be crossed. That's why, since the rules of college athletics are about to change, to allow athletes to make money from their IMAGES AND LIKENESSES, I'm all in favor of of them doing so. Yet protecting immature 18 year old kids from being taken advantage of. Open your eyes fool, I've seen the creeps and crooks in the business world, that HAVE taken their own mother's last penny. Be a realist instead of an ideologue hater. |
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Post by cbus on Nov 2, 2019 6:43:29 GMT -5
Contrary to what the immediate assumption seems to be, the NCAA still holds the upper hand on rules and guidelines. If anyone is so naive to think a student will maintain eligibility after receiving cash payments for endorsements, imagery or whatever, they are in for a rude awakening. The NCAA won't stop the personal compensation, but they certainly have the final say on whether he/she will ever wear an athletic uniform and compete athletically for an NCAA sanctioned school. You don't know this. |
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Post by sportsjock on Nov 2, 2019 8:24:30 GMT -5
Contrary to what the immediate assumption seems to be, the NCAA still holds the upper hand on rules and guidelines. If anyone is so naive to think a student will maintain eligibility after receiving cash payments for endorsements, imagery or whatever, they are in for a rude awakening. The NCAA won't stop the personal compensation, but they certainly have the final say on whether he/she will ever wear an athletic uniform and compete athletically for an NCAA sanctioned school. You don't know this. I have done research and have given this situation considerable amount of thought. As I alluded in my post, too many are quick to dispel and not recognize the power and authority of the NCAA. On the other hand, you don't know that this is not the case, nor do you know that this won't be the case. I think we will be seeing the defined parameters that will be imposed by the NCAA in the coming days or weeks. There will be rules and guidelines in place, specific to preserving present day amateur status and satisfy affected athletes as well. Eligibility requirements will be at the core of their revisions. Those that somehow think an athlete that accepts direct, cash payment for their name, goods, services or imagery and remain eligible, may be in for a disappointment. I think it will come down to the athlete involved, having a choice of options, accept payment now and lose eligibility , agreeing to a deferred payment that would maintain their eligibility, or decline payment altogether. I might be wrong on this, but I doubt it. |
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Post by DrTorch on Nov 2, 2019 9:43:20 GMT -5
they don't make money off their likenesses anymore, don't you know who Ed O'Bannon is old man and why you can't get NCAA Football? good lord reading you and sportsjock agree on a topic is like watching two 18-month olds try to kill each other with boiled hot dogs You are a closet Socialist you pinko twat. I would trust the individual more than the Godless institution. Marx much? You are a clueless ignoramus, that's incapable of reading what's right in front of your hate filled nose. I've made my fortune being a red, white and blue capitalist. Playing by the rules, yet getting as close to the line that should not be crossed. That's why, since the rules of college athletics are about to change, to allow athletes to make money from their IMAGES AND LIKENESSES, I'm all in favor of of them doing so. Yet protecting immature 18 year old kids from being taken advantage of. Open your eyes fool, I've seen the creeps and crooks in the business world, that HAVE taken their own mother's last penny. Be a realist instead of an ideologue hater. whatever Comrade |
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Post by DrTorch on Nov 2, 2019 9:44:12 GMT -5
I have done research and have given this situation considerable amount of thought. As I alluded in my post, too many are quick to dispel and not recognize the power and authority of the NCAA. On the other hand, you don't know that this is not the case, nor do you know that this won't be the case. I think we will be seeing the defined parameters that will be imposed by the NCAA in the coming days or weeks. There will be rules and guidelines in place, specific to preserving present day amateur status and satisfy affected athletes as well. Eligibility requirements will be at the core of their revisions. Those that somehow think an athlete that accepts direct, cash payment for their name, goods, services or imagery and remain eligible, may be in for a disappointment. I might be wrong on this, but I doubt it. the NCAA isn't leading crap, they are cowering in the shadows pay no attention to the little man behind the curtain |
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Post by sportsjock on Nov 2, 2019 9:57:32 GMT -5
I have done research and have given this situation considerable amount of thought. As I alluded in my post, too many are quick to dispel and not recognize the power and authority of the NCAA. On the other hand, you don't know that this is not the case, nor do you know that this won't be the case. I think we will be seeing the defined parameters that will be imposed by the NCAA in the coming days or weeks. There will be rules and guidelines in place, specific to preserving present day amateur status and satisfy affected athletes as well. Eligibility requirements will be at the core of their revisions. Those that somehow think an athlete that accepts direct, cash payment for their name, goods, services or imagery and remain eligible, may be in for a disappointment. I think it will come down to the athlete involved, having a choice of options, accept payment now and lose eligibility , agreeing to a deferred payment that would maintain their eligibility, or decline payment altogether. I might be wrong on this, but I doubt it. For those inclined to discount the NCAA's abilities to regulate and govern collegiate athletics and resort to 'cowering in a corner', think again. The NCAA has been presented many challenges in it's 109 years of existence, has full support of member schools and proven itself over their vast time period. |
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Post by DrTorch on Nov 2, 2019 10:45:25 GMT -5
the IOC makes NCAA jokes
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Post by sportsjock on Nov 2, 2019 10:49:55 GMT -5
The IOC is nothing to brag about either....lol |
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Post by cbus on Nov 2, 2019 11:43:00 GMT -5
I have done research and have given this situation considerable amount of thought. As I alluded in my post, too many are quick to dispel and not recognize the power and authority of the NCAA. On the other hand, you don't know that this is not the case, nor do you know that this won't be the case. I think we will be seeing the defined parameters that will be imposed by the NCAA in the coming days or weeks. There will be rules and guidelines in place, specific to preserving present day amateur status and satisfy affected athletes as well. Eligibility requirements will be at the core of their revisions. Those that somehow think an athlete that accepts direct, cash payment for their name, goods, services or imagery and remain eligible, may be in for a disappointment. I think it will come down to the athlete involved, having a choice of options, accept payment now and lose eligibility , agreeing to a deferred payment that would maintain their eligibility, or decline payment altogether. I might be wrong on this, but I doubt it. If the NCAA oversteps and puts too many restrictions on these payments then CA will write a regulation that is less conservative so the NCAA will cave and..... follow the CA rule. Or a player will sue to overthrow the NCAA rule as being illegal...and the NCAA will cave. We now have precedence. IMO, you should not expect anything different. |
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Post by DrTorch on Nov 2, 2019 11:43:51 GMT -5
the NCAA can't pass laws, they have nothing
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Post by cbus on Nov 2, 2019 12:12:53 GMT -5
the NCAA can't pass laws, they have nothing They have regulations-that's not nothing. |
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Post by DrTorch on Nov 2, 2019 12:43:15 GMT -5
they have a monopoly, that's what they have
if all the colleges left the NCAA then everyone would see the emperor as he truly is, without clothes
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Post by sportsjock on Nov 2, 2019 12:52:29 GMT -5
California can't run the NCAA's business either.
I'm not concerned with the NCAA 'overstepping', but I have serious concerns of the big government advocates (and you know what side of the aisle from which they preside) thinking they must run and control every aspect of our lives. Infringing on the governance of college sports is not beyond their capacity.
As far as this new imposition is concerned, there is no 'rule', simply a law that requires compensation for the deserving party, for which I have zero problem with. Where it will get sticky, is the imposed rules that the NCAA will invoke on it's implementation. I think it will be simply be, if you accept money, you will be ineligible. Which will quickly involve the legal system. Could get ugly, but quite necessary IMO.
For those of you who have blind faith in big government, God be with you.
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