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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 11:37:39 GMT -5
Does the loss still hurt? Yes. Is it time to move on? Yes. Otherwise we start to sound like Michigan fans
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 14:15:09 GMT -5
I haven't gotten over Ohio State getting screwed, By the SEC replay official. Moving forward, Hopefully, Some changes of officiating come for the next bowl season.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 4, 2020 16:40:11 GMT -5
Does the loss still hurt? Yes. Is it time to move on? Yes. Otherwise we start to sound like Michigan fans After watching the game for the second time it was easy to "move on". Game official blunders, unusual player and Ryan day mistakes, a healthy QB vs one playing on one good leg made this a close last minute win for Clemson. All things being equal Ohio State wins by 3 TDs. If I've learned anything in life, the best team does not always win, life is not always fair.
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Post by maplecityjake on Jan 6, 2020 15:35:34 GMT -5
Does the loss still hurt? Yes. Is it time to move on? Yes. Otherwise we start to sound like Michigan fans After watching the game for the second time it was easy to "move on". Game official blunders, unusual player and Ryan day mistakes, a healthy QB vs one playing on one good leg made this a close last minute win for Clemson. All things being equal Ohio State wins by 3 TDs. If I've learned anything in life, the best team does not always win, life is not always fair. Wasn't Clemson's top 2 receivers out a good chunk of the game?
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Post by sportsjock on Jan 6, 2020 19:47:09 GMT -5
After watching the game for the second time it was easy to "move on". Game official blunders, unusual player and Ryan day mistakes, a healthy QB vs one playing on one good leg made this a close last minute win for Clemson. All things being equal Ohio State wins by 3 TDs. If I've learned anything in life, the best team does not always win, life is not always fair. Wasn't Clemson's top 2 receivers out a good chunk of the game? Wasn't Ohio State's defensive slot man and run enforcer, prematurely ejected half way through the 2nd qtr, on a highly controversial 'targeting' call? With all due respect for Josh Proctor, with Wade in the game, Lawrence becomes much less a factor in the closing moments of this slug fest. Wonder how effective Lawrence would have been, playing on one leg, like Fields? No question, Dobbins was hurting and playing through pain, most of the game. I agree with WF, this so easily could have been a dominating win for the Buckeyes on the scoreboard, to support their actual dominance in every statistical category.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 6, 2020 20:42:37 GMT -5
After watching the game for the second time it was easy to "move on". Game official blunders, unusual player and Ryan day mistakes, a healthy QB vs one playing on one good leg made this a close last minute win for Clemson. All things being equal Ohio State wins by 3 TDs. If I've learned anything in life, the best team does not always win, life is not always fair. Wasn't Clemson's top 2 receivers out a good chunk of the game? Thanks for bringing that up. All I heard for weeks from the talking heads on ESPN was that the Ohio State DBs were going to be eaten alive by the Clemson WRs. All that was needed by the Ohio State DB's was one HARD HIT and those All-World Clemson receivers wanted no part of playing football against them. Other than one reception, the first pass play after Wade was erroneously kicked out of the game, the Clemson WRs were inconsequential. The only significant passing yardage was to the running back coming out of the backfield. You suppose any of the so called experts get the message after this game?? That Clemson will ALWAYS be overrated due to playing in BY FAR the worst Power 5 Conference.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2020 21:44:59 GMT -5
Wasn't Clemson's top 2 receivers out a good chunk of the game? Thanks for bringing that up. All I heard for weeks from the talking heads on ESPN was that the Ohio State DBs were going to be eaten alive by the Clemson WRs. All that was needed by the Ohio State DB's was one HARD HIT and those All-World Clemson receivers wanted no part of playing football against them. Other than one reception, the first pass play after Wade was erroneously kicked out of the game, the Clemson WRs were inconsequential. The only significant passing yardage was to the running back coming out of the backfield. You suppose any of the so called experts get the message after this game?? That Clemson will ALWAYS be overrated due to playing in BY FAR the worst Power 5 Conference. How’s a team overrated if they have won 2 out of the past 3 national titles and playing for the 3 out of 4?
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 6, 2020 23:38:14 GMT -5
yeah man Clemson like 8-0 vs OSU, ALA, LSU, and OKL in Bowl Games under Yabba Dabba Dabo or something unreal like that...they are looking at a 2nd straight Playoff Win, and a 2nd straight undefeated season, and like bighoss said, 3 out of 4
even Bama doesn't do that man, you gotta give it up to Clemson even tho our loss(es) to them butthurt
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 7, 2020 0:38:35 GMT -5
A team has to be "rated" highly to get in the Four Team Playoff. To get "rated" highly enough a team must win all or maybe lose only one game. Tell me, which Power 5 conference is by far the easiest every year to get through without a loss and do it by piling up the points?
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 7, 2020 1:01:27 GMT -5
Who cares? Clemson beats everyone they play.
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Post by sportsjock on Jan 7, 2020 7:42:49 GMT -5
Who cares? Clemson beats everyone they play. And.......in their most recent 'win', they needed help for that to happen and they received it.
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 7, 2020 9:01:41 GMT -5
yeah but to get upset over their schedule makes no sense to me...they have more wins against the cream than anyone
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 7, 2020 15:09:39 GMT -5
Clemson only plays the "creme" when playing in the Four Team Playoff. Who did Clemson beat to get to the Playoff? For Ohio State to get the to the Playoff they had to beat U of M, Penn State and Wisconsin twice. Those 4 games were more difficult than anyone on Clemson's schedule.
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Post by misterbreeze on Jan 7, 2020 15:40:16 GMT -5
If Clemson routs LSU (shudder the thought), OSU's missed opportunity for another NC will really sting. This was one of OSU's best teams. They damn near pulled out that win despite self-inflicted pain and a couple of calls. It could have been game over by halftime. Hope they come back hungry and determined this fall.
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 7, 2020 16:13:25 GMT -5
Clemson only plays the "creme" when playing in the Four Team Playoff. Who did Clemson beat to get to the Playoff? For Ohio State to get the to the Playoff they had to beat U of M, Penn State and Wisconsin twice. Those 4 games were more difficult than anyone on Clemson's schedule. great, hang a banner Harbaugh
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 7, 2020 19:13:43 GMT -5
What?? For being the 5th best coach in the Big Ten?
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Post by baldref on Jan 8, 2020 15:08:10 GMT -5
It has taken me this long to air my thoughts on the OSU loss. Quite simply, the Bucks allowed themselves to get beat by not scoring tds, dropping passes etc. They allowed the sec officials to dictate the game and take away opportunities. That being said, let's be honest. eSECpn runs the playoffs and owns the SEC, ACC and Big 12 tv networks. Only the PAC 12, Big 10 and Notre Dame tv rights are not owned outright by eSECpn. So it is always in the best interest of eSECpn to have teams from their conferences make the playoffs. OSU was rated number 1 heading into the conference championship games by the committee. Suddenly, after one bad half and ignoring a great comeback, the playoff committee dropped the best team in the nation (still is according to Sports Illustrated) to number 2. That way, eSECpn was assured that their team, LSU, would be in the final. Then, for some reason, SEC officials were assigned the OSU Clemson game. WhY? As someone else posted, no officials from final four conferences should be doing the semis or championship games. The Stage was set to make things as difficult as possible for OSU, a non-eSECpn affiliated school, to make the championship game.The officials called IT VERY tight and to the letter of the law against OSU and unfortunately OSU committed just enough blunders to turn what could have easily been a rout into a game that a bad call here and there could change the outcome. In OSUs case, the Bucks must win always convincingably to be given any credit by eSECpn. Its called jealousy. Im not usually a conspiracy advocate, but in this case, things just seem to add up. So go to next season, blow everyone out and win it all. BTW, PAC 12 officials are doing the championship game.
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Post by buckeyekid on Jan 8, 2020 20:30:48 GMT -5
Casting everything else aside, and looking at the root of the problem with that game. OSU had Clemson where they wanted them,,,about 7-8 times. 1-By not scoring a TD when we had 1st and Goal at the 4 and settling for a FG on the opening drive. 2-JK getting tripped up as he is running for what would have been a 17-0 lead in the late 1st quarter,,he gets tripped up by a diving slowish white safety. Then he proceeds to drop a screen pass that almost assuredly was a TD on 3rd down. Hello field goal for the 2nd time now. 3-JK drops a slightly overthrown pass in the End Zone that should have made it 20-0 mid 2nd Quarter. Hello field goal once again.16-0,,instead of 20 or up to 28-0. 4-On Third down late 2nd quater,, Wade gets called for a targeting,,,why,,,because the QB drops his head at the last split second and then lays on the ground. Dabo crys,,here comes the review. Targeting and ejection. A double whammy. 5-Still leading mid 3rd quarter OSU holds Clemson on 3rd down deep in Clemson territory. Ready to get the ball back near mid field, we hit the punter and get called for roughing and it's first down Clemson. Soon after they score and take the lead. 6- OSU DB Okudah strips the ball from the receiver, Fuller picks up the fumble as per the ref,,and returns for a TD and it's OSU back in the lead. Wait a minute, the review official goes against protocol and reverses a clear non un disputable play. Take the TD off the board. 7- OSU is up and has pinned Clemson back inside their 5 yard line with 3 minutes to play, this after a Clemson player has the punt hit him in the back while surrounded by Buckeye players,,and the ball stops right in front of the Clemson player and he falls on it, essentially saving the game. Clemson proceeds to move the ball 95 yards in 4 plays and 1:30 seconds against our defense. 8- OSU drives down the field, down by 6 and sets up with 1st and ten and 2 TO's left on Clemson's 24 yard line with about 45 seconds left. 3 of the five receivers on the play were open. Chris Olave had beaten his man and was ready to cut to the right at the goal line and catch a great pass from Fields. The only problem,,he inexplicably broke off his pattern once he beat the defender and cut left and stumbled. The beaten defend broke to the ball and made an easy interception and sealed the game for Clemson.
8 plays that in my mind all had to go Clemsons' way for OSU to lose the game---and they sure did. i don't blame the refs completely, and I don't blame OSU completely, because it took a strong combo of both reffing mistakes, and player mistakes to lose that game.
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 9, 2020 0:26:59 GMT -5
well to the people who are saying we just watched the best OSU team we ever had not win the National Title i say aw come on snowflake the same thing happened to me in 2005, you'll get over it
still stoked for the future of the program, couldn't be more excited for year 2 of Fields, and maybe if we can show a little QB depth he will get some more rushing attempts, i think the read-option with he and Teague could be special because who they are as runners really complement each other
not to mention year 2 of Garrett Wilson
CJ Stroud looks pretty special to me also, good chance he gets a 5th star and i think he might be the one who ends up chasing some of the other QB recruits into the portal...
Good times to be a Buckeye. Especially when you came of age in the Cooper years haha.
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Post by sportsjock on Jan 9, 2020 10:08:40 GMT -5
It is taking time to shake the disappointment of the Clemson loss and most won't be convinced the best team in college football won't be represented in the National Championship game. Like the Dr. said, there is reason for great optimism, looking forward. The months ahead will be completing the missing pieces to the puzzle. Coaching adjustments and certainly, the transfer portal. We are all looking at the strong possibility of fortifying the DB's and perhaps the DL.
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Post by buckeyekid on Jan 9, 2020 10:47:37 GMT -5
Another aspect of the Buckeyes going into the game that clearly played a part in the loss was the health of Justin Fields. He was in a no way the same threat to run the ball, that he was, say 4 games earlier. That, is just the way it is when you have a dual threat QB.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 9, 2020 12:58:51 GMT -5
It is taking time to shake the disappointment of the Clemson loss and most won't be convinced the best team in college football won't be represented in the National Championship game. Like the Dr. said, there is reason for great optimism, looking forward. The months ahead will be completing the missing pieces to the puzzle. Coaching adjustments and certainly, the transfer portal. We are all looking at the strong possibility of fortifying the DB's and perhaps the DL. Ohio State coaches were surprised a couple of players didn't leave early for the NFL. With the number of signed players for the 2020 class Ohio State is already 3 players over the limit. Do not count on signing any more players for the 2020 class in February, OR from the transfer portal. UNLESS some players are strongly encouraged to transfer.
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Post by maplecityjake on Jan 11, 2020 7:54:51 GMT -5
It has taken me this long to air my thoughts on the OSU loss. Quite simply, the Bucks allowed themselves to get beat by not scoring tds, dropping passes etc. They allowed the sec officials to dictate the game and take away opportunities. That being said, let's be honest. eSECpn runs the playoffs and owns the SEC, ACC and Big 12 tv networks. Only the PAC 12, Big 10 and Notre Dame tv rights are not owned outright by eSECpn. So it is always in the best interest of eSECpn to have teams from their conferences make the playoffs. OSU was rated number 1 heading into the conference championship games by the committee. Suddenly, after one bad half and ignoring a great comeback, the playoff committee dropped the best team in the nation (still is according to Sports Illustrated) to number 2. That way, eSECpn was assured that their team, LSU, would be in the final. Then, for some reason, SEC officials were assigned the OSU Clemson game. WhY? As someone else posted, no officials from final four conferences should be doing the semis or championship games. The Stage was set to make things as difficult as possible for OSU, a non-eSECpn affiliated school, to make the championship game.The officials called IT VERY tight and to the letter of the law against OSU and unfortunately OSU committed just enough blunders to turn what could have easily been a rout into a game that a bad call here and there could change the outcome. In OSUs case, the Bucks must win always convincingably to be given any credit by eSECpn. Its called jealousy. Im not usually a conspiracy advocate, but in this case, things just seem to add up. So go to next season, blow everyone out and win it all. BTW, PAC 12 officials are doing the championship game. You're surprised OSU dropped after struggling in 1st Half against Wisky? All the while LSU boat raced another potential Playoff team in Georgia? Actually, the better question was why LSU fell from 1st since their win against Bama? Geaux Tigers didn't harm themselves from losing top status.
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 11, 2020 8:59:53 GMT -5
the better question is why is a UM fan posting in a College Football Playoff thread?
seriously?
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Post by maplecityjake on Jan 11, 2020 11:17:10 GMT -5
the better question is why is a UM fan posting in a College Football Playoff thread? seriously? To your point, I didn't really have to say anything. If I've said it once, I've said it a million times. The end results speak for themselves.
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Post by DrTorch on Jan 11, 2020 11:21:08 GMT -5
that's great but i would think you would want be be at least a fan of a Division 1 team before you jumped into a college football playoff thread
maybe there are some Big Sky chat rooms you can troll 5-loss teams in
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Post by buckeyekid on Jan 11, 2020 11:38:12 GMT -5
In convo back to the game itself,,apparently Baron Browning really played poorly the film review showed and was out of position a number of times. This may explain why he came back. The clock is ticking on that 5 star recruit. I hope the light comes on and stays on this next season for him.
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Post by maplecityjake on Jan 11, 2020 11:44:13 GMT -5
that's great but i would think you would want be be at least a fan of a Division 1 team before you jumped into a college football playoff thread maybe there are some Big Sky chat rooms you can troll 5-loss teams in Hopefully, Baldref will offer a reply to my inquiry/observation, and one void of being annoyed and going beta.
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