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Post by portwalk on Feb 29, 2020 8:34:14 GMT -5
Just watched the end of the game on OH report why did the senior kid attack the basket? Shoot a circus shot? Did Senior not have a TO. Amazing then the Upper kid looks around for a ref to step in after his shot knowing it was late once again just a good thing that it was to get to the round of 128 and a team with a losing record lost. Doesn’t change the fact it occurred though...
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Post by fbfan on Feb 29, 2020 8:38:35 GMT -5
don't listen to buzzer watch clock...he is within two - tenths of a second... I agree the buzzer was way off however the best I can see he is beginning upward however the ball was in his hands when clock hit as well. Not that big of a deal when the field is being cut to 128... How are officials trained to handle the situation. Do they try to split their vision and watch the ball and the clock, or watch the ball and listen for the buzzer? If it's the latter, it was a terrible call, if the former, not so much.
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Post by portwalk on Feb 29, 2020 8:51:32 GMT -5
Upper vs Ontario
Shelby vs Norwalk
Thoughts???
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Post by buckeyekid on Feb 29, 2020 8:56:43 GMT -5
You listen for buzzer not watching the clock. That being said,,you run the clock when you have the ball. Why? Because a 3 ball can tie it. You have to be aware when you are in situations like that. Senior failed and deserved to get beat as they handed an opportunity to Upper. I'm really glad for the Upper kids.
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Post by dude on Feb 29, 2020 9:12:13 GMT -5
I agree the buzzer was way off however the best I can see he is beginning upward however the ball was in his hands when clock hit as well. Not that big of a deal when the field is being cut to 128... How are officials trained to handle the situation. Do they try to split their vision and watch the ball and the clock, or watch the ball and listen for the buzzer? If it's the latter, it was a terrible call, if the former, not so much. Many good officials will check the clock and try to see clock and ball. The buzzer can go off at any time.
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Post by 419bossman on Feb 29, 2020 9:55:18 GMT -5
Upper vs Ontario Shelby vs Norwalk Thoughts??? I think both games should be good ones. Upper and Ontario should be a run and gun game and Shelby and Norwalk will be a dogfight. Who ever wins the district will more then likely face Lima Shawnee at BGSU.
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Post by sportsvideo on Feb 29, 2020 10:04:45 GMT -5
don't listen to buzzer watch clock...he is within two - tenths of a second... I agree the buzzer was way off however the best I can see he is beginning upward however the ball was in his hands when clock hit as well. Not that big of a deal when the field is being cut to 128... final four, they will use video replay in that situation.. this is why you try to never put yourself in this position .. winning at the time or losing.. because now its out of your control...
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Post by truecrimson on Feb 29, 2020 11:42:32 GMT -5
Just watched the end of the game on OH report why did the senior kid attack the basket? Shoot a circus shot? Did Senior not have a TO. Amazing then the Upper kid looks around for a ref to step in after his shot knowing it was late once again just a good thing that it was to get to the round of 128 and a team with a losing record lost. Doesn’t change the fact it occurred though... Terrible call. MS clearly robbed of this win. i’ve never saw an official look at the clock and the ball during a frantic moment like this, they are watching ball and listening for the buzzer and clearly missed this one. MS robbed.
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Post by dude on Feb 29, 2020 11:57:57 GMT -5
Just watched the end of the game on OH report why did the senior kid attack the basket? Shoot a circus shot? Did Senior not have a TO. Amazing then the Upper kid looks around for a ref to step in after his shot knowing it was late once again just a good thing that it was to get to the round of 128 and a team with a losing record lost. Doesn’t change the fact it occurred though... Terrible call. MS clearly robbed of this win. i’ve never saw an official look at the clock and the ball during a frantic moment like this, they are watching ball and listening for the buzzer and clearly missed this one. MS robbed. They check the clock and count down internal as a gauge. The buzzer was early. Being able to see the clock and the shot, for an official, at the same is not possible. For us it is possible and we can see and hear that the buzzer went off with time on the clock and the shot was taken with no time on the clock. But, IMHO, if the Tygers want to blame anyone they should point their fingers at a poor decision to not run the clock out up 1 with the ball.
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Post by royalballdad on Feb 29, 2020 11:59:38 GMT -5
Just watched the end of the game on OH report why did the senior kid attack the basket? Shoot a circus shot? Did Senior not have a TO. Amazing then the Upper kid looks around for a ref to step in after his shot knowing it was late once again just a good thing that it was to get to the round of 128 and a team with a losing record lost. Doesn’t change the fact it occurred though... Terrible call. MS clearly robbed of this win. i’ve never saw an official look at the clock and the ball during a frantic moment like this, they are watching ball and listening for the buzzer and clearly missed this one. MS robbed. How about the points for upper taken off the scoreboard after a foul shot was made... how often is a foul called, then the player goes to foul line shoots and makes the first of a 1 & 1, then a time out called by Upper and after coming back on the floor to shoot the 2nd foul shot the refs decide to take the point off the score board and give Upper the ball on the baseline. Talk about robbed. Watching this game - we can say robbed multiple times for both teams. Bottom-line... Tigers player made a poor decision by trying to score with 12 seconds left instead of dribble away from basket and running clock till fouled. Don’t put yourself in a position at the end of the game to allow the refs to make a decision that could cost you the game!
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Post by portwalk on Feb 29, 2020 12:01:09 GMT -5
Ontario vs Upper should be very interesting as Ontario should have enough to win However the weight of 0 for D2 may creep in at some point. Upper on the other hand will have a chance to get used to their new troops. I will take the Warriors in a tight one could come down to the buzzer... in that case the Rams really have a chance 😵
As for Shelby vs Norwalk should be a good one however Shelby is the type team Norwalk typically plays well against. They have a dominant player which Gray likes to take away. They like the long ball which Gray likes to take away. Should come down to a possession or two which Gray likes... Obringer has really played well the second half of the season. I’ll take Norwalk in a close one
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2020 12:16:47 GMT -5
Upper vs Ontario Shelby vs Norwalk Thoughts??? Doesn’t matter. The winners are only 1 of 64
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Post by buckeyekid on Feb 29, 2020 12:36:59 GMT -5
If it’s the Shelby I saw vs Willard in half # 1—I’ll take Shelby. If it’s the Shelby I saw vs Willard in half# 2—I’ll take Norwalk
Ontario only because of attrition.
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Post by mrsteel on Feb 29, 2020 12:50:16 GMT -5
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Post by usramfan on Feb 29, 2020 13:09:14 GMT -5
Terrible call. MS clearly robbed of this win. i’ve never saw an official look at the clock and the ball during a frantic moment like this, they are watching ball and listening for the buzzer and clearly missed this one. MS robbed. How about the points for upper taken off the scoreboard after a foul shot was made... how often is a foul called, then the player goes to foul line shoots and makes the first of a 1 & 1, then a time out called by Upper and after coming back on the floor to shoot the 2nd foul shot the refs decide to take the point off the score board and give Upper the ball on the baseline. Talk about robbed. Watching this game - we can say robbed multiple times for both teams. Bottom-line... Tigers player made a poor decision by trying to score with 12 seconds left instead of dribble away from basket and running clock till fouled. Don’t put yourself in a position at the end of the game to allow the refs to make a decision that could cost you the game! Even though it worked against us, we weren't robbed. The situation was handled correctly, though it shouldn't have gotten to that point.
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Post by crimson5 on Feb 29, 2020 13:12:59 GMT -5
Upper vs Ontario Shelby vs Norwalk Thoughts??? Doesn’t matter. The winners are only 1 of 64 Huh? Matters alot to those 4 teams and their fan bases. Pretty stupid post.
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Post by mrsteel on Feb 29, 2020 13:38:30 GMT -5
Doesn’t matter. The winners are only 1 of 64 Huh? Matters alot to those 4 teams and their fan bases. Pretty stupid post. It should also be some pretty entertaining games to say the least.
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Post by usramfan on Feb 29, 2020 14:17:01 GMT -5
I have since been in communication with two officials, one of whom spoke with the official who made the call.🙂 It was really fascinating to hear how officials process things in their minds, eyes, and ears in the few seconds they have to make decisions.
The responsibilities are shared and prioritized depending on where the play happens on the floor. If they're primarily responsible for the play, then they're taught to stay on it and listen for the horn. Probably the same with the official on the baseline. The official furthest back up the floor should have helped with the clock and and horn since he was least responsible for the play itself and therefore could try to see both.
Officials have to use the tools that are available to them. Having those tools - the clock and horn - appearing to be in conflict with each other makes a tight situation that much more complicated. In that case, there wasn't anything present to definitely say the shot wasn't in time. You have to stay with the call in that case.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2020 14:21:13 GMT -5
Doesn’t matter. The winners are only 1 of 64 Huh? Matters alot to those 4 teams and their fan bases. Pretty stupid post. sarcasm isn’t your thing
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Post by portwalk on Feb 29, 2020 14:25:58 GMT -5
Huh? Matters alot to those 4 teams and their fan bases. Pretty stupid post. sarcasm isn’t your thing I got it even though an N10 team may not see 64... So an Upper win would be a big deal for the conference...
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Post by fbfan on Feb 29, 2020 14:49:53 GMT -5
I have since been in communication with two officials, one of whom spoke with the official who made the call.🙂 It was really fascinating to hear how officials process things in their minds, eyes, and ears in the few seconds they have to make decisions. The responsibilities are shared and prioritized depending on where the play happens on the floor. If they're primarily responsible for the play, then they're taught to stay on it and listen for the horn. Probably the same with the official on the baseline. The official furthest back up the floor should have helped with the clock and and horn since he was least responsible for the play itself and therefore could try to see both. Officials have to use the tools that are available to them. Having those tools - the clock and horn - appearing to be in conflict with each other makes a tight situation that much more complicated. In that case, there wasn't anything present to definitely say the shot wasn't in time. You have to stay with the call in that case. Copied from the OHSAA website, the instructions for the official Timer for the basketball game. Note the sections on EQUIPMENT and NEAR THE END OF PLAYING TIME RULES COVERAGE: Rule 2-4-2: The referee shall designate the official timepiece and its operator. Rule 2-12: Duties and responsibilities of the timer are indicated. An efficient timer will carefully study these sections and become thoroughly familiar with all their responsibilities. The timer shall sound a warning signal 15 seconds before the expiration of an intermission, a time-out (60- or 30-second) and the 15-second interval to replace a disqualified or injured player, or a player directed to leave the game. The timer shall also signal when the time has expired for an intermission, a charged time-out or a replacement interval. EQUIPMENT: Electric clock timer and one stopwatch, or a table-clock timer and one or two stopwatches. A gong, loud siren or electric air horn to signal the end of playing time. When present, a red/LED light is permitted to end a quarter or extra period; otherwise, the audible signal ends the quarter or extra period. BEFORE THE GAME: 1. The official timer should ascertain the game starting time and suggest that the referee and coaches synchronize their watches. 2. Review the official signals for starting the clock, time-out, a foul or violation. 3. Notify the scorer 10 minutes prior to the starting time. TIMING REGULATIONS: 1. Playing time shall be: a. For teams of high school age —four quarters of eight minutes each with intermissions of one minute after the first and third quarters and 10 minutes between halves. Halftime may be extended to a maximum of 15 minutes upon proper notification. b. For teams younger than in (a) —four quarters of six minutes each with intermissions same as for (a). 2. Overtime Play: a. If the score is tied at the end of the second half, play shall continue without change of baskets for one or more extra periods, with a one-minute intermission before each. b. The length of each extra period shall be four minutes (or half the time of a regulation quarter for non-varsity contests). c. As many such extra periods as are needed to break the tie shall be played. Game ends, if, at end of any extra period, the score is not tied. d. Extra periods are an extension of the fourth quarter. 3. A time-out charged to a team is of either 60-seconds or 30-second duration unless both teams are ready to resume play sooner. 4. No time-out is charged to a team when: a. The floor official grants a player’s request because of displaced eyeglasses or lens. b. A correctable error as in 2-10, or a timing, scoring or alternating possession mistake has been prevented or rectified. 5. The sounding of the scorer’s signal or game horn does not cause the game timepiece to be stopped. START THE OFFICIAL TIMEPIECE WHEN: 1. A tossed ball is legally tapped when play is started by a jump. 2. The ball touches a player on the court during a throw-in (if clock has been stopped). 3. An official signals “start the clock.” If he or she neglects to do so, the official timepiece should be started unless an official specifically signals that it should not be started. 4. The ball touches or is touched by a player on the court provided the ball is to remain live if the free throw is missed. In these cases, the official will give the start-the-clock signal, but if he or she neglects to do so, the official timepiece should be started when it is apparent the ball touches a player and is to remain live. STOP THE OFFICIAL TIMEPIECE WHEN: 1. Any period ends. 2. An official gives a time-out signal. The official will order time-out when: a. A foul is called by holding hand with fingers closed at arm’s length above head. b. A jump/held ball is declared by giving the jump-ball signal (holding thumbs up at shoulder height away from body and motioning upward with both arms extended). c. A violation occurs by giving the time-out signal (holding hand with fingers extended at arm’s length above head) after which the proper violation signal is given. d. There is to be a charged time-out, or an official’s time-out for a technical foul, or other stoppage indicated by a floor official who holds a hand at arm’s length above the head with fingers extended. NEAR THE END OF PLAYING TIME: 1. If a watch is being used as the official timepiece, place it so that the timer may see it and the ball. The watch must be stopped the instant the signal ending the game is sounded. 2. When a timing device other than a watch is the official timepiece, the timer must assist in determining the position of the ball when time expires. 3. Some timers, in order to avoid misunderstanding concerning the position of the ball when time expires, have one person watch the official timepiece and count aloud 10 - 9 - 8 - 7, etc., while another person watches the ball and notes its position at the exact moment time expires. 4. If a quarter or extra period ends and: a. The timer has been unable to make an official hear the signal, the timer must immediately notify the official. b. The timing signal fails or is not heard by an official, the timer must be prepared to advise the referee as to whether the ball was in flight when time expired, or whether a foul occurred before or after the period had ended. c. The timing signal is not heard by the officials, testimony of the timer may determine whether a score shall count or a foul shall be charged, unless the referee has information which would alter the situation.
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Post by fanofthegame on Feb 29, 2020 15:19:55 GMT -5
Has anyone ever seen a clock operator chime in on whether a shot counted? Plus during the regular season that position is usually someone from the home team.
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Post by usramfan on Feb 29, 2020 15:26:04 GMT -5
I have since been in communication with two officials, one of whom spoke with the official who made the call.🙂 It was really fascinating to hear how officials process things in their minds, eyes, and ears in the few seconds they have to make decisions. The responsibilities are shared and prioritized depending on where the play happens on the floor. If they're primarily responsible for the play, then they're taught to stay on it and listen for the horn. Probably the same with the official on the baseline. The official furthest back up the floor should have helped with the clock and and horn since he was least responsible for the play itself and therefore could try to see both. Officials have to use the tools that are available to them. Having those tools - the clock and horn - appearing to be in conflict with each other makes a tight situation that much more complicated. In that case, there wasn't anything present to definitely say the shot wasn't in time. You have to stay with the call in that case. Copied from the OHSAA website, the instructions for the official Timer for the basketball game. Note the sections on EQUIPMENT and NEAR THE END OF PLAYING TIME RULES COVERAGE: Rule 2-4-2: The referee shall designate the official timepiece and its operator. Rule 2-12: Duties and responsibilities of the timer are indicated. An efficient timer will carefully study these sections and become thoroughly familiar with all their responsibilities. The timer shall sound a warning signal 15 seconds before the expiration of an intermission, a time-out (60- or 30-second) and the 15-second interval to replace a disqualified or injured player, or a player directed to leave the game. The timer shall also signal when the time has expired for an intermission, a charged time-out or a replacement interval. EQUIPMENT: Electric clock timer and one stopwatch, or a table-clock timer and one or two stopwatches. A gong, loud siren or electric air horn to signal the end of playing time. When present, a red/LED light is permitted to end a quarter or extra period; otherwise, the audible signal ends the quarter or extra period. BEFORE THE GAME: 1. The official timer should ascertain the game starting time and suggest that the referee and coaches synchronize their watches. 2. Review the official signals for starting the clock, time-out, a foul or violation. 3. Notify the scorer 10 minutes prior to the starting time. TIMING REGULATIONS: 1. Playing time shall be: a. For teams of high school age —four quarters of eight minutes each with intermissions of one minute after the first and third quarters and 10 minutes between halves. Halftime may be extended to a maximum of 15 minutes upon proper notification. b. For teams younger than in (a) —four quarters of six minutes each with intermissions same as for (a). 2. Overtime Play: a. If the score is tied at the end of the second half, play shall continue without change of baskets for one or more extra periods, with a one-minute intermission before each. b. The length of each extra period shall be four minutes (or half the time of a regulation quarter for non-varsity contests). c. As many such extra periods as are needed to break the tie shall be played. Game ends, if, at end of any extra period, the score is not tied. d. Extra periods are an extension of the fourth quarter. 3. A time-out charged to a team is of either 60-seconds or 30-second duration unless both teams are ready to resume play sooner. 4. No time-out is charged to a team when: a. The floor official grants a player’s request because of displaced eyeglasses or lens. b. A correctable error as in 2-10, or a timing, scoring or alternating possession mistake has been prevented or rectified. 5. The sounding of the scorer’s signal or game horn does not cause the game timepiece to be stopped. START THE OFFICIAL TIMEPIECE WHEN: 1. A tossed ball is legally tapped when play is started by a jump. 2. The ball touches a player on the court during a throw-in (if clock has been stopped). 3. An official signals “start the clock.” If he or she neglects to do so, the official timepiece should be started unless an official specifically signals that it should not be started. 4. The ball touches or is touched by a player on the court provided the ball is to remain live if the free throw is missed. In these cases, the official will give the start-the-clock signal, but if he or she neglects to do so, the official timepiece should be started when it is apparent the ball touches a player and is to remain live. STOP THE OFFICIAL TIMEPIECE WHEN: 1. Any period ends. 2. An official gives a time-out signal. The official will order time-out when: a. A foul is called by holding hand with fingers closed at arm’s length above head. b. A jump/held ball is declared by giving the jump-ball signal (holding thumbs up at shoulder height away from body and motioning upward with both arms extended). c. A violation occurs by giving the time-out signal (holding hand with fingers extended at arm’s length above head) after which the proper violation signal is given. d. There is to be a charged time-out, or an official’s time-out for a technical foul, or other stoppage indicated by a floor official who holds a hand at arm’s length above the head with fingers extended. NEAR THE END OF PLAYING TIME: 1. If a watch is being used as the official timepiece, place it so that the timer may see it and the ball. The watch must be stopped the instant the signal ending the game is sounded. 2. When a timing device other than a watch is the official timepiece, the timer must assist in determining the position of the ball when time expires. 3. Some timers, in order to avoid misunderstanding concerning the position of the ball when time expires, have one person watch the official timepiece and count aloud 10 - 9 - 8 - 7, etc., while another person watches the ball and notes its position at the exact moment time expires. 4. If a quarter or extra period ends and: a. The timer has been unable to make an official hear the signal, the timer must immediately notify the official. b. The timing signal fails or is not heard by an official, the timer must be prepared to advise the referee as to whether the ball was in flight when time expired, or whether a foul occurred before or after the period had ended. c. The timing signal is not heard by the officials, testimony of the timer may determine whether a score shall count or a foul shall be charged, unless the referee has information which would alter the situation.Is the game over with time still on the clock?
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Post by crimson5 on Feb 29, 2020 19:36:26 GMT -5
Huh? Matters alot to those 4 teams and their fan bases. Pretty stupid post. sarcasm isn’t your thing I apologize, didnt sense the sarcasm.
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Post by streak05 on Feb 29, 2020 20:22:21 GMT -5
Copied from the OHSAA website, the instructions for the official Timer for the basketball game. Note the sections on EQUIPMENT and NEAR THE END OF PLAYING TIME RULES COVERAGE: Rule 2-4-2: The referee shall designate the official timepiece and its operator. Rule 2-12: Duties and responsibilities of the timer are indicated. An efficient timer will carefully study these sections and become thoroughly familiar with all their responsibilities. The timer shall sound a warning signal 15 seconds before the expiration of an intermission, a time-out (60- or 30-second) and the 15-second interval to replace a disqualified or injured player, or a player directed to leave the game. The timer shall also signal when the time has expired for an intermission, a charged time-out or a replacement interval. EQUIPMENT: Electric clock timer and one stopwatch, or a table-clock timer and one or two stopwatches. A gong, loud siren or electric air horn to signal the end of playing time. When present, a red/LED light is permitted to end a quarter or extra period; otherwise, the audible signal ends the quarter or extra period. BEFORE THE GAME: 1. The official timer should ascertain the game starting time and suggest that the referee and coaches synchronize their watches. 2. Review the official signals for starting the clock, time-out, a foul or violation. 3. Notify the scorer 10 minutes prior to the starting time. TIMING REGULATIONS: 1. Playing time shall be: a. For teams of high school age —four quarters of eight minutes each with intermissions of one minute after the first and third quarters and 10 minutes between halves. Halftime may be extended to a maximum of 15 minutes upon proper notification. b. For teams younger than in (a) —four quarters of six minutes each with intermissions same as for (a). 2. Overtime Play: a. If the score is tied at the end of the second half, play shall continue without change of baskets for one or more extra periods, with a one-minute intermission before each. b. The length of each extra period shall be four minutes (or half the time of a regulation quarter for non-varsity contests). c. As many such extra periods as are needed to break the tie shall be played. Game ends, if, at end of any extra period, the score is not tied. d. Extra periods are an extension of the fourth quarter. 3. A time-out charged to a team is of either 60-seconds or 30-second duration unless both teams are ready to resume play sooner. 4. No time-out is charged to a team when: a. The floor official grants a player’s request because of displaced eyeglasses or lens. b. A correctable error as in 2-10, or a timing, scoring or alternating possession mistake has been prevented or rectified. 5. The sounding of the scorer’s signal or game horn does not cause the game timepiece to be stopped. START THE OFFICIAL TIMEPIECE WHEN: 1. A tossed ball is legally tapped when play is started by a jump. 2. The ball touches a player on the court during a throw-in (if clock has been stopped). 3. An official signals “start the clock.” If he or she neglects to do so, the official timepiece should be started unless an official specifically signals that it should not be started. 4. The ball touches or is touched by a player on the court provided the ball is to remain live if the free throw is missed. In these cases, the official will give the start-the-clock signal, but if he or she neglects to do so, the official timepiece should be started when it is apparent the ball touches a player and is to remain live. STOP THE OFFICIAL TIMEPIECE WHEN: 1. Any period ends. 2. An official gives a time-out signal. The official will order time-out when: a. A foul is called by holding hand with fingers closed at arm’s length above head. b. A jump/held ball is declared by giving the jump-ball signal (holding thumbs up at shoulder height away from body and motioning upward with both arms extended). c. A violation occurs by giving the time-out signal (holding hand with fingers extended at arm’s length above head) after which the proper violation signal is given. d. There is to be a charged time-out, or an official’s time-out for a technical foul, or other stoppage indicated by a floor official who holds a hand at arm’s length above the head with fingers extended. NEAR THE END OF PLAYING TIME: 1. If a watch is being used as the official timepiece, place it so that the timer may see it and the ball. The watch must be stopped the instant the signal ending the game is sounded. 2. When a timing device other than a watch is the official timepiece, the timer must assist in determining the position of the ball when time expires. 3. Some timers, in order to avoid misunderstanding concerning the position of the ball when time expires, have one person watch the official timepiece and count aloud 10 - 9 - 8 - 7, etc., while another person watches the ball and notes its position at the exact moment time expires. 4. If a quarter or extra period ends and: a. The timer has been unable to make an official hear the signal, the timer must immediately notify the official. b. The timing signal fails or is not heard by an official, the timer must be prepared to advise the referee as to whether the ball was in flight when time expired, or whether a foul occurred before or after the period had ended. c. The timing signal is not heard by the officials, testimony of the timer may determine whether a score shall count or a foul shall be charged, unless the referee has information which would alter the situation.Is the game over with time still on the clock? There wasn’t time on the clock. Ball was still in his hand when the clock hit 0.0. Freeze frame the video.
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Post by richrod on Feb 29, 2020 20:44:06 GMT -5
Is the game over with time still on the clock? There wasn’t time on the clock. Ball was still in his hand when the clock hit 0.0. Freeze frame the video. I agree but still on the floor live, it woulda been a bang bang play tough to not give it to them. if there was replay different story. but there isn't so Upper moves on to play another day. Mansfield finished their season strong as well. kudos to them
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Post by fanofthegame on Feb 29, 2020 22:10:08 GMT -5
Is the game over with time still on the clock? There wasn’t time on the clock. Ball was still in his hand when the clock hit 0.0. Freeze frame the video. I don’t think the officials had freeze frame available. I’m as critical of bad officials as anyone. You can’t blame them for this call.
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Post by portwalk on Feb 29, 2020 22:41:57 GMT -5
There wasn’t time on the clock. Ball was still in his hand when the clock hit 0.0. Freeze frame the video. I don’t think the officials had freeze frame available. I’m as critical of bad officials as anyone. You can’t blame them for this call. The clock was on 0 with the ball in his hand. However in real time he was barely beginning to lay the ball up when the buzzer clearly went off and for that no slow motion or freeze frame was needed. So based on that shouldn’t it be waved off or at a minimum discussed
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 29, 2020 22:51:23 GMT -5
They did beat a 7 seed with a losing record let’s not get carried away... Mansfield senior is a good basketball team with a good Schedule. Everyone went into this game thinking they were gonna lose and they came in losing a lot of confidence with injuries and other kids being off the team. It’s not getting carried away, it’s the fact that this is a great win for upper because it was supposed to be a close game even with all their players, then being down 3 players, that’s a great win against a good team Mansfield Senior's coach and players made several bad decisions and bad plays. Which is typical. Often their athleticism makes up for them, not this time.
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Post by fanofthegame on Feb 29, 2020 23:02:04 GMT -5
I don’t think the officials had freeze frame available. I’m as critical of bad officials as anyone. You can’t blame them for this call. The clock was on 0 with the ball in his hand. However in real time he was barely beginning to lay the ball up when the buzzer clearly went off and for that no slow motion or freeze frame was needed. So based on that shouldn’t it be waved off or at a minimum discussed Little Bucyrus gym, rowdy crowd. Do you think the buzzer was audible? When have you ever seen an officiating crew conference after a final buzzer? They’re in the locker with police escort.
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