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Post by whippetfan on Mar 5, 2020 14:29:06 GMT -5
I can’t say that I have ever seen someone play for the last shot at the end of the game when they are down. If you don’t make that shot there is no time to get a steal or foul to try to get the ball back for another chance. And judging by our inability to make anything in the second half, the outcome wouldn’t have been any different. Just would like to rewind to before those two TOs to see what would have happened if given the chance.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 5, 2020 15:04:41 GMT -5
To me the strategy was in deference to the coaching experience of Steve Gray, that would be faced down the stretch if he let his team play on. One shot at a win VS getting behind by 3+ and not having a chance at a winning shot.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2020 17:33:15 GMT -5
To me the strategy was in deference to the coaching experience of Steve Gray, that would be faced down the stretch if he let his team play on. One shot at a win VS getting behind by 3+ and not having a chance at a winning shot. This guy gets it. If you try and score instantly and you don’t succeed and according to whippetfan with Shelby’s inability to do that in the second half you don’t score. Steve grey is only gonna make you foul or take a wide open lay up. With a team who shot 22-24 at FT line why not hold for last shot and play for a chance to win on a last shot instead a chance to tie on last shot
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Post by dude on Mar 5, 2020 22:10:41 GMT -5
To me the strategy was in deference to the coaching experience of Steve Gray, that would be faced down the stretch if he let his team play on. One shot at a win VS getting behind by 3+ and not having a chance at a winning shot. This guy gets it. If you try and score instantly and you don’t succeed and according to whippetfan with Shelby’s inability to do that in the second half you don’t score. Steve grey is only gonna make you foul or take a wide open lay up. With a team who shot 22-24 at FT line why not hold for last shot and play for a chance to win on a last shot instead a chance to tie on last shot OK, so I am starting to see your logic. So remind me again what happened after holding the ball to run out the clock and they took the final shot of the game to win the game?
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Post by fanofthegame on Mar 6, 2020 6:26:46 GMT -5
Agreed.
If you try to score immediately and miss you at least have a CHANCE at another attempt whether you get a steal or have to foul and hope they miss the FT’s.
If you miss a last second shot you have 0 chance at another attempt.
And if Shelby was having trouble scoring statistically two chances are better than one. You can’t convince me holding for one last shot while down is a good idea.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2020 7:12:56 GMT -5
Here's another head scratcher, Evergreen scored with 3 seconds left, Up 44-43. Cardinal Stritch had 1 timeout left, Didn't use it, Clock continued to run, They inbound the ball, And settled for a half court desperation heave at the buzzer. Game over, Evergreen moves on. Why wouldn't Stritch use that timeout to set something up ? Watched the rerun on BCSN this morning.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 6, 2020 17:15:40 GMT -5
Agreed. If you try to score immediately and miss you at least have a CHANCE at another attempt whether you get a steal or have to foul and hope they miss the FT’s. If you miss a last second shot you have 0 chance at another attempt. And if Shelby was having trouble scoring statistically two chances are better than one. You can’t convince me holding for one last shot while down is a good idea. In the MNJ, the Shelby coach said his plan could have worked if not for an undisciplined play by his PG(who he named).
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Post by fanofthegame on Mar 6, 2020 18:09:36 GMT -5
Agreed. If you try to score immediately and miss you at least have a CHANCE at another attempt whether you get a steal or have to foul and hope they miss the FT’s. If you miss a last second shot you have 0 chance at another attempt. And if Shelby was having trouble scoring statistically two chances are better than one. You can’t convince me holding for one last shot while down is a good idea. In the MNJ, the Shelby coach said his plan could have worked if not for an undisciplined play by his PG(who he named). I would liken that play to going for two after a TD down one with no time on the clock. You can make an argument for it, but...
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 6, 2020 19:19:12 GMT -5
Exactly, a football play called by a coach who thinks his team is at a decided disadvantage. One of the best football coaches of the past couple of decades Mack Brown, now at North Carolina, did just that against Clemson this year. His strategy failed, but he thought it was his best shot at winning the game.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2020 14:17:11 GMT -5
Exactly, a football play called by a coach who thinks his team is at a decided disadvantage. One of the best football coaches of the past couple of decades Mack Brown, now at North Carolina, did just that against Clemson this year. His strategy failed, but he thought it was his best shot at winning the game. I’m assuming that was Shelby’s coaches thinking. Had this decision played out he looks like a hero. Or it don’t he looks like a zero. Chance he was willing to take with trusting his team.
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