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Post by Willard Fillmore on Apr 7, 2020 16:06:22 GMT -5
I find it more unbelievable that there weren't enough voices in the community to influence the Administration to stay put. With that being said, EVERY one from BV who posted on here at the time was in favor of the move.
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Post by dude on Apr 7, 2020 19:38:17 GMT -5
Rumors are going around that not many are happy with the move. General talks, I have not been told any specifics. I can't believe anyone within BV administration thought this was a good idea. There's no geographic, cultural or athletic fit...and it's not even close. And my guess is their gates took an unbelievable hit. Those MSL team don't travel at all. Any update on who may have interest in filling the KMAC?
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Post by pirate80 on Apr 8, 2020 8:02:30 GMT -5
According to Cardington athletic booster notes, letters of interest have been sent out but to whom wasn't disclosed.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Apr 8, 2020 12:15:26 GMT -5
Would former MOAC members Elgin and Ridgedale be interested now that Highland is gone?
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Post by pirate80 on Apr 8, 2020 18:07:55 GMT -5
I'd be interested in either of them. Both of those drives to Danville aren't fun though. But I'd be down with either of them.
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Post by Green Falcon on Apr 8, 2020 22:37:26 GMT -5
If football is a priority then Elgin and Ridgedale should not even be considered. More than likely neither school will have 11-man within the next few seasons
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Apr 9, 2020 12:49:54 GMT -5
That's going to be an issue for many small school leagues in Ohio in the future.
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Post by runawaytrain on Apr 10, 2020 11:37:36 GMT -5
That's going to be an issue for many small school leagues in Ohio in the future. true...but the KMAC probably shouldn't go with someone who has a recent history of football issues. I'd think Loudonville, Lucas, Utica and Northridge would be at the top of the list. The situation for Utica and Northridge got a bit better in the LCL with the addition of Zanesville so that may tone down either's interest.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Apr 10, 2020 12:10:13 GMT -5
My point was, the KMAC isn't the only small school conference that will be dealing with the issue of schools not fielding 11 man teams. Not that they shouldn't take it into consideration.
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Post by dude on Apr 10, 2020 12:35:05 GMT -5
That's going to be an issue for many small school leagues in Ohio in the future. true...but the KMAC probably shouldn't go with someone who has a recent history of football issues. I'd think Loudonville, Lucas, Utica and Northridge would be at the top of the list. The situation for Utica and Northridge got a bit better in the LCL with the addition of Zanesville so that may tone down either's interest. Lucas, Loudonville and Utica would be an obvious top 3. Depending on if one of those 3 make the switch could have ripples to other leagues.
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Post by nattydaddy on Apr 28, 2020 18:17:16 GMT -5
Why this order. Do not forget that the entire league is in the Central District and that is a factor. I'm not saying that your guess is wrong but I think it does matter. ^ ^ ^ ^ This. Utica is preferred because they are in the Central District. However, it shouldn't be too difficult for Lucas or Loudonville to be put in the Central District if they request the OHSAA to do so. Two schools petitioned the OHSAA to transition to the Central District last school year. Both requests were rejected by the OHSAA. Make of that, what you will.
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Post by danville96 on May 18, 2020 17:24:25 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2020 17:57:16 GMT -5
Interesting that it is only for football
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Post by danville96 on May 18, 2020 19:09:35 GMT -5
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Post by dude on May 18, 2020 20:37:25 GMT -5
Why are they deciding not to go back to a 8 team league for all sports?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 18, 2020 23:30:45 GMT -5
Football is the only sport that is difficult to navigate with 7 teams.
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Post by nattydaddy on May 19, 2020 0:07:32 GMT -5
The KMAC schools probably thought there was nothing wrong with ‘7’ for the other sports. Which, they may be right TBH. Although ideal, adding an 8th school for all sports isn’t a necessity.
Will they stay this way going forward? Hard to tell. But by not committing to one school right now as a full-fledged 8th, their options are open. There’s a league in the Central District (not covered on this forum) that just keeps throwing crap additions to the league, like, every year and it’s working not great.
Honestly don’t think many schools formally applied or had any interest in the KMAC. Loudonville... Lucas... ??
KMAC is an excellent concept. It’s a tight league, very little enrollment disparity aside from Danville at the bottom, short travel and huge attendance. Only school that would’ve made any sense to apply and take for all sports probably didn’t even apply.
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Post by pirate80 on May 19, 2020 5:49:36 GMT -5
The KMAC schools probably thought there was nothing wrong with ‘7’ for the other sports. Which, they may be right TBH. Although ideal, adding an 8th school for all sports isn’t a necessity. Will they stay this way going forward? Hard to tell. But by not committing to one school right now as a full-fledged 8th, their options are open. There’s a league in the Central District (not covered on this forum) that just keeps throwing crap additions to the league, like, every year and it’s working not great. Honestly don’t think many schools formally applied or had any interest in the KMAC. Loudonville... Lucas... ?? KMAC is an excellent concept. It’s a tight league, very little enrollment disparity aside from Danville at the bottom, short travel and huge attendance. Only school that would’ve made any sense to apply and take for all sports probably didn’t even apply. Which school that makes sense would you be referring to? Just wondering?
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Post by dude on May 19, 2020 7:36:29 GMT -5
We could assume that maybe the lack of jv and freshman teams with many of the KMAC schools had something to do with it.
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Post by nattydaddy on May 19, 2020 9:00:55 GMT -5
The KMAC schools probably thought there was nothing wrong with ‘7’ for the other sports. Which, they may be right TBH. Although ideal, adding an 8th school for all sports isn’t a necessity. Will they stay this way going forward? Hard to tell. But by not committing to one school right now as a full-fledged 8th, their options are open. There’s a league in the Central District (not covered on this forum) that just keeps throwing crap additions to the league, like, every year and it’s working not great. Honestly don’t think many schools formally applied or had any interest in the KMAC. Loudonville... Lucas... ?? KMAC is an excellent concept. It’s a tight league, very little enrollment disparity aside from Danville at the bottom, short travel and huge attendance. Only school that would’ve made any sense to apply and take for all sports probably didn’t even apply. Which school that makes sense would you be referring to? Just wondering? Utica, who has gone 4-17 against KMAC schools since 2013 (East Knox, Centerburg and Fredericktown.)
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Post by pirate80 on May 19, 2020 13:51:26 GMT -5
I was kind of hoping for Utica or Lucas, but they're all pretty much the same drive from Cardington so 🤷🏻♂️
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Post by dude on May 20, 2020 8:39:13 GMT -5
I was kind of hoping for Utica or Lucas, but they're all pretty much the same drive from Cardington so 🤷🏻♂️ Lucas is desperate for a league. Loudonville may have been the choice sine they were already in a football only agreement and that is what the KMAC wanted for now.
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Post by galion on May 20, 2020 10:02:00 GMT -5
Given Lucas' recent successes in multiple sports, particularly football, I can see why they preferred Loudonville.
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Post by dude on May 20, 2020 10:10:26 GMT -5
Given Lucas' recent successes in multiple sports, particularly football, I can see why they preferred Loudonville. Very true, but Lucas was 8-2 in regular season and one of the losses was to the second place team in the KMAC. It could be argued that the state runner-up could have finished 3rd in the league for football this season.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 20, 2020 10:52:26 GMT -5
Given Lucas' recent successes in multiple sports, particularly football, I can see why they preferred Loudonville. Given the quality of Freshman and JV team, little or no difference in the future.
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Post by galion on May 20, 2020 11:17:04 GMT -5
It is foolish to use success in the lower levels to predict future varsity success. Good programs focus player development not wins and losses.
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Post by galion on May 20, 2020 11:23:52 GMT -5
Given Lucas' recent successes in multiple sports, particularly football, I can see why they preferred Loudonville. Very true, but Lucas was 8-2 in regular season and one of the losses was to the second place team in the KMAC. It could be argued that the state runner-up could have finished 3rd in the league for football this season. I would speculate that had Lucas been a member of the KMAC last season with a goal of winning it that Northmor would have been one of the games that they circled on the schedule and the result would have been different
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Post by dude on May 20, 2020 13:59:33 GMT -5
Very true, but Lucas was 8-2 in regular season and one of the losses was to the second place team in the KMAC. It could be argued that the state runner-up could have finished 3rd in the league for football this season. I would speculate that had Lucas been a member of the KMAC last season with a goal of winning it that Northmor would have been one of the games that they circled on the schedule and the result would have been different As compared to not being in the league and just being okay with losing that game?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 20, 2020 14:04:37 GMT -5
It is foolish to use success in the lower levels to predict future varsity success. Good programs focus player development not wins and losses. Ignorant statement. You want us to believe a 1-9 or 2-18 JV team portends well for the future?? It sure as hell is a sound indicator for Galion basketball failures and football success. As it is for Ontario basketball success and poor showings in football.
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Post by galion on May 20, 2020 17:24:07 GMT -5
I would speculate that had Lucas been a member of the KMAC last season with a goal of winning it that Northmor would have been one of the games that they circled on the schedule and the result would have been different As compared to not being in the league and just being okay with losing that game? I don't believe that they were OK "losing". However, the intensity level of playing a game for a conference title and playing an ooc opponent without much of a rivalry is different.
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