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Post by dude on Jan 24, 2020 23:20:18 GMT -5
Here's the thing that kills Willard. The pace of their half court offense.this team is slow and mathotucal on a half court set. We don't cut hard, we're half speed on screens and just literally jogging around. there's nothing fast and hard. That's gotta get fixed bc when tourney time comes your not going to get the fast breaks and run outs. your half court sets better be crisp and the ball has to be moving like a hot potato. The ball sticks in our hands.teams are going to slow it way down on us so we have to get better at that.its fixable just need to work on it. No wonder they are slow if they are doing MATH on the court?
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Post by xlegend on Jan 24, 2020 23:22:39 GMT -5
Here's the thing that kills Willard. The pace of their half court offense.this team is slow and mathotucal on a half court set. We don't cut hard, we're half speed on screens and just literally jogging around. there's nothing fast and hard. That's gotta get fixed bc when tourney time comes your not going to get the fast breaks and run outs. your half court sets better be crisp and the ball has to be moving like a hot potato. The ball sticks in our hands.teams are going to slow it way down on us so we have to get better at that.its fixable just need to work on it. No wonder they are slow if they are doing MATH on the court? ? I'm guessing you insinuating scoreboard watching?
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Post by dude on Jan 24, 2020 23:28:46 GMT -5
No wonder they are slow if they are doing MATH on the court? ? I'm guessing you insinuating scoreboard watching? I'm guessing you meant methodical?
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Post by xlegend on Jan 24, 2020 23:30:36 GMT -5
? I'm guessing you insinuating scoreboard watching? I'm guessing you meant methodical? methodical is what I meant. Maybe one to many pops. Geesh
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Post by crimson5 on Jan 24, 2020 23:45:07 GMT -5
I'm guessing you meant methodical? methodical is what I meant. Maybe one to many pops. Geesh Dude is just a jackwagon, I'm guessing he was bullied in school and this is his way of making up for the lost lunch money.
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Post by crimson5 on Jan 24, 2020 23:47:33 GMT -5
? I'm guessing you insinuating scoreboard watching? I'm guessing you meant methodical? Everybody knew what he meant, you're the only weasel that thought it was necessary to draw attention to it. That's why nobody likes you.
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Post by xlegend on Jan 24, 2020 23:48:41 GMT -5
methodical is what I meant. Maybe one to many pops. Geesh Dude is just a jackwagon, I'm guessing he was bullied in school and this is his way of making up for the lost lunch money. he seems to be always stirring the pot.
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Post by dude on Jan 24, 2020 23:59:06 GMT -5
I'm guessing you meant methodical? Everybody knew what he meant, you're the only weasel that thought it was necessary to draw attention to it. That's why nobody likes you. It was a JK moment and he got it. Maybe you are the weasel, because I am loved by all who know me.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 25, 2020 0:43:59 GMT -5
No one REALLY knows him.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 25, 2020 0:58:42 GMT -5
Willard is actually a good FT shooting team except for one player. in this game, one was good the rest were bad or didn't get there.
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Post by jmorgret07 on Jan 25, 2020 10:21:25 GMT -5
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Post by crimson5 on Jan 25, 2020 10:28:53 GMT -5
Willard is actually a good FT shooting team except for one player. in this game, one was good the rest were bad or didn't get there. The recipe for beating Willard.......first, slow down the pace, take the air out of the ball. Second, get physical with our scorers, put multiple bodies on them to prevent them from getting easy looks, finding the open guy seems to be a problem, and when they do we struggle to knock down shots. If we cant run the floor, uptempo game, we're an average team. Our half court offense is not good. As xlegend said, we dont run off screens like we're suppose to, the ball sticks in hands, crisp/quick passes timed properly aren't found. The good teams remaining on our schedule (Shelby, OH, Huron, Margaretta, Northwestern) will play this style of game. If we cant find a way to execute in half court sets, I can see us losing at least 3 of those 5....maybe all 5.
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Post by buckeyekid on Jan 25, 2020 10:42:15 GMT -5
The glass 1/2 full view. Our remaining schedule is suddenly looking way more difficult--However, the remaining teams on our schedule are not potential tourney foes. That is a big plus, because if for no other reason, the schedule should make us better and fully ready for D3 tourney action.
We gotta get better as a team,playing good competition helps.
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Post by richrod on Jan 25, 2020 12:56:39 GMT -5
Here's the thing that kills Willard. The pace of their half court offense.this team is slow and mathotucal on a half court set. We don't cut hard, we're half speed on screens and just literally jogging around. there's nothing fast and hard. That's gotta get fixed bc when tourney time comes your not going to get the fast breaks and run outs. your half court sets better be crisp and the ball has to be moving like a hot potato. The ball sticks in our hands.teams are going to slow it way down on us so we have to get better at that.its fixable just need to work on it. No wonder they are slow if they are doing MATH on the court? haha
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Post by xlegend on Jan 25, 2020 13:29:35 GMT -5
The glass 1/2 full view. Our remaining schedule is suddenly looking way more difficult--However, the remaining teams on our schedule are not potential tourney foes. That is a big plus, because if for no other reason, the schedule should make us better and fully ready for D3 tourney action. We gotta get better as a team,playing good competition helps. the one thing that was good last night was our defense. Oak harbor has some big physical dudes and for the most part done a good job of rebounding.we won't see anything like that until regionals...if we make it that far.i believe and have stated a couple loses is not a bad thing as long as you LEARN from it.need to make free throws when the game is on the line.i would of bet the farm if someone said before the game that we hold oak harbor to 49 points but the lose the game.im anxious to see how we respond Tuesday against another good team in shelby,then next Friday against oak harbor.go flashes
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Post by richrod on Jan 25, 2020 14:24:09 GMT -5
The glass 1/2 full view. Our remaining schedule is suddenly looking way more difficult--However, the remaining teams on our schedule are not potential tourney foes. That is a big plus, because if for no other reason, the schedule should make us better and fully ready for D3 tourney action. We gotta get better as a team,playing good competition helps. the one thing that was good last night was our defense. Oak harbor has some big physical dudes and for the most part done a good job of rebounding.we won't see anything like that until regionals...if we make it that far.i believe and have stated a couple loses is not a bad thing as long as you LEARN from it.need to make free throws when the game is on the line.i would of bet the farm if someone said before the game that we hold oak harbor to 49 points but the lose the game.im anxious to see how we respond Tuesday against another good team in shelby,then next Friday against oak harbor.go flashes when I watched them against St. Paul though, they only played 6 guys. It is the only time I have seen Willard, do they normally only go 1 deep on the bench?
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Post by xlegend on Jan 25, 2020 14:40:14 GMT -5
the one thing that was good last night was our defense. Oak harbor has some big physical dudes and for the most part done a good job of rebounding.we won't see anything like that until regionals...if we make it that far.i believe and have stated a couple loses is not a bad thing as long as you LEARN from it.need to make free throws when the game is on the line.i would of bet the farm if someone said before the game that we hold oak harbor to 49 points but the lose the game.im anxious to see how we respond Tuesday against another good team in shelby,then next Friday against oak harbor.go flashes when I watched them against St. Paul though, they only played 6 guys. It is the only time I have seen Willard, do they normally only go 1 deep on the bench? yep.hurts us especially when a team wants to slow it down. Prevents us from pressing to try and speed the game up it's another Achilles heel.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 25, 2020 15:07:43 GMT -5
in this game, one was good the rest were bad or didn't get there. The recipe for beating Willard.......first, slow down the pace, take the air out of the ball. Second, get physical with our scorers, put multiple bodies on them to prevent them from getting easy looks, finding the open guy seems to be a problem, and when they do we struggle to knock down shots. If we cant run the floor, uptempo game, we're an average team. Our half court offense is not good. As xlegend said, we dont run off screens like we're suppose to, the ball sticks in hands, crisp/quick passes timed properly aren't found. The good teams remaining on our schedule (Shelby, OH, Huron, Margaretta, Northwestern) will play this style of game. If we cant find a way to execute in half court sets, I can see us losing at least 3 of those 5....maybe all 5. Same players except for your post and PG. I'm sure the post had little to do with the half court offense problem. I knew you'd miss your PG from last year. He facilitated the offense, but could not set all the screens and make players run off then properly. Could the problems be, players playing different positions than last year? Just wondering what you see. These are the kind of things I really like dissecting and delving into with the high school game, when kids are learning and coaches are teaching.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 25, 2020 15:16:23 GMT -5
The glass 1/2 full view. Our remaining schedule is suddenly looking way more difficult--However, the remaining teams on our schedule are not potential tourney foes. That is a big plus, because if for no other reason, the schedule should make us better and fully ready for D3 tourney action. We gotta get better as a team,playing good competition helps. the one thing that was good last night was our defense. Oak harbor has some big physical dudes and for the most part done a good job of rebounding.we won't see anything like that until regionals...if we make it that far.i believe and have stated a couple loses is not a bad thing as long as you LEARN from it.need to make free throws when the game is on the line.i would of bet the farm if someone said before the game that we hold oak harbor to 49 points but the lose the game.im anxious to see how we respond Tuesday against another good team in shelby,then next Friday against oak harbor.go flashes Shelby is the complete opposite of OH, not that physical except for Pugh, their 6-6 200 guard/forward. They've very quick, like to drive and dish or finish at the rim. Often amazed at how they can make very difficult looking layups look easy. On the other hand, not a real good 3-point shooing team. They have a hectic full court press, but don't use it all the time.
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Post by xlegend on Jan 25, 2020 16:45:12 GMT -5
The recipe for beating Willard.......first, slow down the pace, take the air out of the ball. Second, get physical with our scorers, put multiple bodies on them to prevent them from getting easy looks, finding the open guy seems to be a problem, and when they do we struggle to knock down shots. If we cant run the floor, uptempo game, we're an average team. Our half court offense is not good. As xlegend said, we dont run off screens like we're suppose to, the ball sticks in hands, crisp/quick passes timed properly aren't found. The good teams remaining on our schedule (Shelby, OH, Huron, Margaretta, Northwestern) will play this style of game. If we cant find a way to execute in half court sets, I can see us losing at least 3 of those 5....maybe all 5. Same players except for your post and PG. I'm sure the post had little to do with the half court offense problem. I knew you'd miss your PG from last year. He facilitated the offense, but could not set all the screens and make players run off then properly. Could the problems be, players playing different positions than last year? Just wondering what you see. These are the kind of things I really like dissecting and delving into with the high school game, when kids are learning and coaches are teaching. hey will ...we have the same point guard as last year. Lost our 2 guard in polacheck and lost tripplet our center . baldridge played the four and now he plays the 2 bc he has pretty good ball skills . Micha plays center now but played that position last year.paxton plays the three but subbed in last year at the 1-3 positions.he plays the 3 90 percent of the time this year.pingston plays the 4 this year but played the 3 last year.so not much change at all. We're still a damn good team just have to work on playing together more. I'm hoping Joe sees what I see and fixes our problem especially half court o...p.s. I'm not going to beat you up by not knowing who our point guard was last year.gi flashes
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 25, 2020 21:51:57 GMT -5
Then why did the half court offense run better last year? At least I don't remember any angst about it last year, like this year. I know Baldridge has good ball skills, but a 6-8 player going from the 4, replacing a 6-0 player at the 2, in a half court offense is a significant change. If same players and Polacheck wasn't key to running the offense last year, what's the issue? Same coach, same offense, generally same players....
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Post by xlegend on Jan 25, 2020 22:05:03 GMT -5
Then why did the half court offense run better last year? At least I don't remember any angst about it last year, like this year. I know Baldridge has good ball skills, but a 6-8 player going from the 4, replacing a 6-0 player at the 2, in a half court offense is a significant change. If same players and Polacheck wasn't key to running the offense last year, what's the issue? Same coach, same offense, generally same players.... you hit the nail on the head. 6'8 should be on the block. You still can run pick and roll and pick and pop.you would also have 6'8 around the basket for offensive rebounds instead of 20 feet from the basket also would be an outlet for when we're trying to milk the clock. I'm not understanding the philosophy.tb has good ball skills but teams are going to try and take him out of the game and him 20 feet from the basket its easy to do. If he's on the block it opens our offense up.and our guards will have open looks. Everytone is suffacatibg us on the perimeter.put him on the block and many of Willard's problems go away.then we could be as dangerous of a team as any other in the area.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 25, 2020 22:30:01 GMT -5
Is TB NOT on the block, because he doesn't want to be on the block? Someone thinks playing the 2 will help him get a DI scholarship?
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Post by xlegend on Jan 25, 2020 22:50:38 GMT -5
Is TB NOT on the block, because he doesn't want to be on the block? Someone thinks playing the 2 will help him get a DI scholarship? I don't think it's him and maybe coach Joe is trying to get him a ride somewhere but it's best for the team right now. Imo.
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Post by truecrimson on Jan 26, 2020 11:35:07 GMT -5
Then why did the half court offense run better last year? At least I don't remember any angst about it last year, like this year. I know Baldridge has good ball skills, but a 6-8 player going from the 4, replacing a 6-0 player at the 2, in a half court offense is a significant change. If same players and Polacheck wasn't key to running the offense last year, what's the issue? Same coach, same offense, generally same players.... you hit the nail on the head. 6'8 should be on the block. You still can run pick and roll and pick and pop.you would also have 6'8 around the basket for offensive rebounds instead of 20 feet from the basket also would be an outlet for when we're trying to milk the clock. I'm not understanding the philosophy.tb has good ball skills but teams are going to try and take him out of the game and him 20 feet from the basket its easy to do. If he's on the block it opens our offense up.and our guards will have open looks. Everytone is suffacatibg us on the perimeter.put him on the block and many of Willard's problems go away.then we could be as dangerous of a team as any other in the area. TB when on the floor and has 4-5” on kids, plant him on the block all night long and let him score 25-30 on the block and force teams to double him. Problem Willard has is their outside threat. With TB on the block you need to move the Pinkston kid to the other block. move the paxton kid to point and set up parrot for shot after shot where he is deadly coming off screens. problem you now have is you need another outside shooter at the 3 spot. you can’t have 3 post players on the floor at once. OH exposed the weakness and cut off that right side so the pinkston kid could not drive in.
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