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Post by 419bossman on Jan 27, 2020 11:07:13 GMT -5
This week schedule
1/28
Galion at Seneca East
Buckeye Valley at Marion Harding
Norwalk at Ontario
Marion Pleasant at KIPP
Fredericktown at River Valley
Shelby at Willard
1/31
Marion Pleasant at Clear Fork
Ontario at Galion
River Valley at Marion Harding
Ashland at Shelby
2/1
Marion Harding at Mansfield St. Peter's
Marion Pleasant at Bishop Ready 12pm start
Lucas at Galion
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Post by gt1975 on Jan 28, 2020 13:52:48 GMT -5
The Galion-Lucas game will be interesting. For those who don't know, Galion's Coach's son plays for Lucas and is probably their best player. The rumor is that he wants to transfer to Galion next year but we'll see if that happens.
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Post by wallpass on Jan 28, 2020 13:57:50 GMT -5
Never seen a Friday night road game and a Saturday noon start road game before. Gonna be some tired boys but that's the advantage of being young. It would kill me.
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Post by utsherman on Jan 28, 2020 20:05:29 GMT -5
Shelby 51
Willard 33
Half
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Post by utsherman on Jan 28, 2020 21:00:55 GMT -5
Willard 78
Shelby 73
Final
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Post by mrsteel on Jan 28, 2020 21:14:08 GMT -5
Norwalk-65
Ontario-45 final
Norwalk didn’t miss in the second half.
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Post by crimson5 on Jan 28, 2020 21:40:29 GMT -5
Norwalk-65 Ontario-45 final Norwalk didn’t miss in the second half. That score surprises me. |
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Post by gt1975 on Jan 28, 2020 22:14:18 GMT -5
Seneca East 74
Galion 64
Final
Kind of surprised by this one. Thought this was going to be a win.
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Post by maplecityjake on Jan 28, 2020 22:21:19 GMT -5
Norwalk-65 Ontario-45 final Norwalk didn’t miss in the second half. That score surprises me. You aren't the only one. We haven't won many non-league games and O-rena tough to win, especially on a Tues Night. I think 57 game winning streak would agree with me. |
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Post by 419bossman on Jan 28, 2020 22:39:34 GMT -5
Galion might not win a game the rest of the season
Ontario, Lucas, Marion Pleasant, Shelby, Crestline and Mansfield St. Peter's still to play.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 28, 2020 22:43:08 GMT -5
Norwalk-65 Ontario-45 final Norwalk didn’t miss in the second half. They didn't miss many in the first half. 3 minutes into this game I knew Norwalk was going to win. Norwalk was draining 3-pointers like they were layups and Ontario wasn't hitting theirs. Making baskets, as is missing, is contagious. Shaver didn't have a point in the first half. Norwalk is a MUCH more physical team than skinny Ontario. Their 200#+ inside players had their way with Ontario's 150-160# inside players. Also helping Norwalk to a big advantage on the boards. Norwalk's man defense was also much more physical than Ontario's. The way high school games are called these days, it's a big advantage to have a good football team. Ontario won JV game, Norwalk the Frosh game |
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Post by ohioraised on Jan 29, 2020 9:33:34 GMT -5
It's not that same as being there but on tv Ontario looked like a tired team. Norwalk was getting open shots for most of the night. The point difference from the 3 point line was 3 shots. This doesn't make up a 20 point win but it happens with both teams taking almost the same number of shots. Norwalk just had more inside the line. Glad the officials were not a factor in this game.
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Post by wallpass on Jan 29, 2020 9:43:48 GMT -5
Pleasant 42
KIPP 40
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Post by gt1975 on Jan 29, 2020 9:57:46 GMT -5
Galion might not win a game the rest of the season Ontario, Lucas, Marion Pleasant, Shelby, Crestline and Mansfield St. Peter's still to play. Should have a chance against Crestline and St. Peter's. Did you go to the game yesterday? How bad was it? |
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Post by 419bossman on Jan 29, 2020 10:16:17 GMT -5
Didn't go but I heard Seneca East outplayed Galion the entire night.
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Post by dude on Jan 29, 2020 13:22:56 GMT -5
Seneca East may not have a good record but they do have some athletes with nice size. That combo and give a scorer problems. From what I have seen at Galion the last few seasons was the previous coach let the team become singular in it's offense. The new coach is trying to use that singular scoring threat but incorporate others for a future benefit. In other words, build a program instead of a career stat sheet. No offense intended. Just an observation.
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Post by gt1975 on Jan 29, 2020 14:59:18 GMT -5
Seneca East may not have a good record but they do have some athletes with nice size. That combo and give a scorer problems. From what I have seen at Galion the last few seasons was the previous coach let the team become singular in it's offense. The new coach is trying to use that singular scoring threat but incorporate others for a future benefit. In other words, build a program instead of a career stat sheet. No offense intended. Just an observation. I understand records can be deceiving but Seneca East lost to Bucyrus just last week. I agree with what you're saying about the offense but our defense is just as bad if not worse. |
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Post by dude on Jan 29, 2020 15:06:45 GMT -5
Seneca East may not have a good record but they do have some athletes with nice size. That combo and give a scorer problems. From what I have seen at Galion the last few seasons was the previous coach let the team become singular in it's offense. The new coach is trying to use that singular scoring threat but incorporate others for a future benefit. In other words, build a program instead of a career stat sheet. No offense intended. Just an observation. I understand records can be deceiving but Seneca East lost to Bucyrus just last week. I agree with what you're saying about the offense but our defense is just as bad if not worse. Sometimes teams play with out key players due to injuries, sickness and unavoidable issues. When the focus is to get a single player a career offensive stat, there is little time for defense. |
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Post by gt1975 on Jan 29, 2020 16:28:59 GMT -5
I understand records can be deceiving but Seneca East lost to Bucyrus just last week. I agree with what you're saying about the offense but our defense is just as bad if not worse. Sometimes teams play with out key players due to injuries, sickness and unavoidable issues. When the focus is to get a single player a career offensive stat, there is little time for defense. Whose focus are you saying is on getting that stat? Alsip? The coach? Or the whole team? |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 29, 2020 20:55:21 GMT -5
It's not that same as being there but on tv Ontario looked like a tired team. Norwalk was getting open shots for most of the night. The point difference from the 3 point line was 3 shots. This doesn't make up a 20 point win but it happens with both teams taking almost the same number of shots. Norwalk just had more inside the line. Glad the officials were not a factor in this game. The other 10 points in the 20 point loss came in the 4th quarter. When Ontario made 25% of their shots and Norwalk made 67%. Officials never are a factor in a blow out. |
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Jan 29, 2020 21:49:32 GMT -5
I'm just letting everybody know that I will be going for a 2-game win streak in the 50/50 raffle this Friday at the Shelby vs. Ashland contest. You all better pray that I don't win because I will be even more unbearable than usual if I win this.
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Post by dude on Jan 29, 2020 22:11:57 GMT -5
Sometimes teams play with out key players due to injuries, sickness and unavoidable issues. When the focus is to get a single player a career offensive stat, there is little time for defense. Whose focus are you saying is on getting that stat? Alsip? The coach? Or the whole team? Pick one or all three I don't care. The at time coach said in an interview that he was coaching the future all time leading scorer for Galion history. So he could be a safe pick. |
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Post by ohioraised on Jan 30, 2020 8:36:19 GMT -5
It's not that same as being there but on tv Ontario looked like a tired team. Norwalk was getting open shots for most of the night. The point difference from the 3 point line was 3 shots. This doesn't make up a 20 point win but it happens with both teams taking almost the same number of shots. Norwalk just had more inside the line. Glad the officials were not a factor in this game. The other 10 points in the 20 point loss came in the 4th quarter. When Ontario made 25% of their shots and Norwalk made 67%. Officials never are a factor in a blow out. The use of percentages can be misleading depending on the number of shots. Going 4 for 8 is 50% but if you go 6 for 16 you can win shooting 37%. Take better shots. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 30, 2020 12:55:58 GMT -5
BOTH teams took 12 shots in the 4th quarter. Norwalk made 8, Ontario made 3...do the math. "Facts are stubborn things"
Making 33% of 3-pointers scores the same points as making 50% of 2 pointers.
Ontario beat Clear Fork handily twice this year by taking the same kind of shots they took against Norwalk.
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Jan 30, 2020 18:48:12 GMT -5
I think it is likely a common occurrence for teams in this area to be flabbergasted when another makes an uncharacteristically high amount of three pointers in a game. It can definitely throw off the tempo. I remember my junior year in high school, Shelby won the NOL in a three-way tie, going 10-4 in league play. Shelby went 4-0 against the other co-leaders, Tiffin and Bellevue, but lost twice to Galion who went 5-9 in league play. In each of those two games against Galion, the Tigers had a pair of Nicholls cousins who combined for 6 or 7 three pointers. Those types of performances bite a lot harder than others from my experience.
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Post by dude on Jan 30, 2020 23:13:33 GMT -5
I think it is likely a common occurrence for teams in this area to be flabbergasted when another makes an uncharacteristically high amount of three pointers in a game. It can definitely throw off the tempo. I remember my junior year in high school, Shelby won the NOL in a three-way tie, going 10-4 in league play. Shelby went 4-0 against the other co-leaders, Tiffin and Bellevue, but lost twice to Galion who went 5-9 in league play. In each of those two games against Galion, the Tigers had a pair of Nicholls cousins who combined for 6 or 7 three pointers. Those types of performances bite a lot harder than others from my experience. In this game that you speak of, Norwalk at Ontario, the Truckers took wide open shots and the Warriors were being contested from 23 feet. This was the reason for the shooting difference. |
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Post by ohioraised on Jan 31, 2020 8:12:36 GMT -5
BOTH teams took 12 shots in the 4th quarter. Norwalk made 8, Ontario made 3...do the math. "Facts are stubborn things" Making 33% of 3-pointers scores the same points as making 50% of 2 pointers. Ontario beat Clear Fork handily twice this year by taking the same kind of shots they took against Norwalk. Giving the shot totals says much much more. If I score 100 and you score 99 did we tie? It is a different shot when there is a hand in your face. Clear Fork does not play defense. |
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Post by gt1975 on Jan 31, 2020 14:53:33 GMT -5
The Galion-Lucas game has been rescheduled for 2/12
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 31, 2020 15:21:28 GMT -5
BOTH teams took 12 shots in the 4th quarter. Norwalk made 8, Ontario made 3...do the math. "Facts are stubborn things" Making 33% of 3-pointers scores the same points as making 50% of 2 pointers. Ontario beat Clear Fork handily twice this year by taking the same kind of shots they took against Norwalk. Giving the shot totals says much much more. If I score 100 and you score 99 did we tie? It is a different shot when there is a hand in your face. Clear Fork does not play defense. My bad for assuming the obvious. You know what was meant....I think. I could have said 33.34%, but I didn't want to tax your mathematical senses. You haven't watched enough Ontario basketball. Their 3-point shooters have had considerable success this year with "a hand in your face". Even if there's no one within 3 feet of a 3-point shooter, how many make 7 out of 7 in a game? Like Norwalk's PG, who doesn't average double figures, did in this game. Abnormal shooting occurrences by both teams. With that being said, a dependence on 3-pointers can be problematic at any level. |
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Post by dude on Jan 31, 2020 22:20:06 GMT -5
BOTH teams took 12 shots in the 4th quarter. Norwalk made 8, Ontario made 3...do the math. "Facts are stubborn things" Making 33% of 3-pointers scores the same points as making 50% of 2 pointers. Ontario beat Clear Fork handily twice this year by taking the same kind of shots they took against Norwalk. Giving the shot totals says much much more. If I score 100 and you score 99 did we tie? It is a different shot when there is a hand in your face. Clear Fork does not play defense. Knowing the shot totals does help. Shooting 50% going 10/20 and shooting 36% going 14/39 can make a big difference even if a team shot well. |
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