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Post by 94hoops on Feb 10, 2020 14:33:51 GMT -5
94hoops no beyond silly everything I stated was facts.. You a hater along with@Willardfillmore whi doesn't know anything about basketball but get on a forum and offer opinions like your knowledgeable about basketball or know what's going on with basketball half of you never played basketball let alone went beyond high school basketball and compare Tahj too Ben haraway is silly.. Nobody is hating on Ben for being a productive member of society you act like Tahj can't go to college and get his degree and be an productive member of society I have a degree currently a productive member of society what is your point I'm not about too go back n forth with people who have no clue about basketball you all or entitled too your opinions and that's okay all the state about Tahj doing this or that it's his life not yours.. The kid is not going d2 he stated he is not even entertaining d2 so that's final move on and stop hating on his decision it his career.. All you state non basketball related facts break down the game nobody on this forum broke down Tahj game as the reason why he can't play high major until I get some real critiques about his game miss me with y'all silly comments and feelings about what he he should do.. He is not a d2 recruit that's what the kid stated so let him be !!!!! Stop hating RWILL4, - Where do I even begin. First I have no clue about your knowledge of basketball but I do know I have a sound knowledge of basketball. Are their people on here who know more about hoops than me. Im sure a bunch of people do. But I can tell you I take my basketball very seriously and learned alot from spending a bunch of time in the gym, on road trips and on the bench with a D1 basketball team and a former NCAA Champion coach. Does that mean I know alot. Absolutely not, does that mean my opinions are credible - it should. Your giivng yourself to much credit by saying your going back and forth with peole who have no clue about basketball. I never said Tahj wont go to college anfd get a degree and be a productive member of society. I would say the exact opposite and I think he will be greatly succesful when he graduates from college. Whether its in basketball or other things remains to be seen. If you believe he is a Power 5 recruit then thats your assessment. Mone assessment is he's a high D2 recruit or a low D1 Mac or Horizon player if he chooses. We may both be wrong but Im sure my critique of his game is as educated as yours and obviously based on the D1 offers my assessment seems to go along with most D2 and D1 college coaches assesments based on his offers. I hope all of the local athletes are able to fulfill their dreams and play at the D1 level. We will have to wait and see with Tahj but quit telling people they know nothing about basketball when you know nothing about the people your responding too.
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Post by rywill4 on Feb 10, 2020 21:00:48 GMT -5
94hoops First off I never questioned your basketball intellect your initial post was regarding basketball about Tahj I gave you a compliment and stated you were giving a real perspective based on basketball alot of people were commenting on Tahj never stated there basketball break down on his game too why he couldn't play d1 or high major basketball.. There opinions were starting too get personal and disrespectful and not based off basketball.. You said something disrespectful towards me and was dismissive towards my break down comparing players and my reasons too why Tahj can't play d1 or go high major.. Forget all this recruitment and rankings because none of that is valid and creditable.. I explained why Tahj recruitment was stagnant and he had no d1 offers currently that doesn't mean he is not a d1 player.. The only negative people keep stating about Tahj is his size at 6-0.. I stated the game of basketball is a small man game Houston rockets currently play a 6-5 under team the game is based on good guard play not necessarily size.. there are plenty of 6-0 guards in the NBA let alone playing high major basketball.. All I ask is if your breaking down Tahj game what is preventing him from playing high major ball.. I see guards currently in the big 10 same size is Tahj who can't consistently knock down an 18ft jump shot.. Tahj pulls up well off the dribble can handle the ball well get too spots on floor clean and can operate out of pick and roll.. I'm asking everybody commenting forget he doesn't have offers bc he should but if your evaluating his game what does he not do that prevents him from playing high major ball.. and stop saying size bc just stated that's not the case bc there are plenty of 6-0 guards around the country ??
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Post by clb6110 on Feb 10, 2020 21:43:04 GMT -5
There are 350 DI college bball programs. Now I don't know for sure but I'd guess every program has a minimum of 8-10 people involved with all things bball related. From scouting all the way to head coach. That's roughly 3000 people employed in the DI college bball world. It's not what any of the kooks on this forum have to do with his talent evaluation that keeps him from a DI offer it's the approx. 3000 in the college world that matter.
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Post by dude on Feb 10, 2020 23:15:21 GMT -5
My perspective has always been he doesn't have any D1 offers. But rywill4 cannot tell me why. He has stated a number of times how this kid has outplayed great D1 recruits and that there are a large number of 6'0 D1 college players. So why then? You seem to have an argument for anyone that suggests a reason for this but You can't explain it yourself. Could it be that this kid at 5'11-6'0 is not as quick, as strong, as good of a defender, ball handler or passer as those other 6'0 D1 college kids you mentioned?
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Post by portwalk on Feb 10, 2020 23:40:24 GMT -5
And the beat goes on but you talk about 6’ point guards however how many of those are more of a 2 than a 1 at that size???
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Post by rywill4 on Feb 10, 2020 23:55:27 GMT -5
I will address why Tahj does not have d1 offers a final time.. First off after Tahj sophmore season he injured his knee which required surgery which put him behind the recruitment wise but also rankings wise in the state.. Going into your junior season this is when college coaches begin too recruit and offer kids in his class.. Tahj was not supposed too play his junior season until February he rehabbed hard got cleared a week before season never fully got his legs back until March.. So he did not have the junior season he expected.. Tahj did not have alot of college coaches coming too his games he cleveland state came and showed interest but wanted too follow his progress in spring and summer.. The spring after his junior year Tahj did not play with major say team who travels and plays In front of major d1 coaches.. That hurt his recruitment alot.. How can you get recruited by d1 coaches if they never see you play that's a major issue.. The landscape of basketball currently if you are not playing on nike circuit Adidas or under armour circuit those high major schools don't see you.. this is not 90 2000s say format where there are open tournaments and top college programs show up too tournaments and see kids play.. No everything is exclusive where top colleges are going too certain tournaments seeing players in one venue.. His high school coach from my reports never had a beavy of d1 coaches coming in on recruiting Tahj.. and yes he outplayed in state point guards at local tournaments but there were no college coaches in attendance so nobody witnessed these performances.. they were not national tournaments on an eybl circuit or gauntlet session.. So this misnomer Tahj is not good enough is not valid you can't say he is or he is not a d1 guard or a high major guard if he has never been evaluated by d1 schools and coaches facts.. This may go over alot of you guys heads because you may not understand the recruiting landscape and aau circuit.. It's harder than ever before too go too a high major school or d1 if you are not on the nike eybl or Adidas gauntlet or under armour circuit a kid may be a great player ala Tahj but does not have the exposure or opprtunity because his didn't play for one of those elite say teams.. That's why you have people vouching he has performed well against elite competition and you hear household coaches like sonny Johnson Chet Mason Quincy Simpson Mike Duncan Jerry Watson who state the kid is elite an forsure d1 player he just behind on his exposure and recruitment because he didn't play on a Circuit.. Aau basketball is more important than high school regular season ball regarding national rankings exposure and going major d1.. Just because a kid does not have the offers does not mean he is not good enough there could be other factors too why the kid does not have offers.. Prep hoops and Ohio high school recruiting service who rank and evaluate players around the state told me they rank players based on there d1 offers not on there game or performance but on there offers so Tahj is ranked sure he is ranked not because his game is not legit or elite because he currently does not hold d1 offers so he is not a top 10 guy in his class now does that make sense too you???.. the point I'm getting at is evlaute Tahj on his game you and others keep saying why doesn't he have offers then if he is high major how can you have d1 offers if no d1 schools are recruiting you or evaluating you ?.. Too my knowledge he has some mid major d1 recruiting him and following his season.. but you can't say he can't go to Michigan or Ohio State or Wisconsin or a Butler cinciannti DePaul Xavier if they have not seen him play and evaluated him.. He is currently starting too get footage out too coaches from all these various programs so we will see.. From what I'm hearing if high major don't have scholarships this year he will do prep school and enroll in one of those programs in fall of 2021
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Post by rywill4 on Feb 10, 2020 23:56:49 GMT -5
Watch "Tahj Staveskie 6ft Point Guard Class Of 2020" on YouTube
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Post by rywill4 on Feb 10, 2020 23:57:39 GMT -5
My hoop heads break the footage down
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Post by rywill4 on Feb 11, 2020 0:01:12 GMT -5
Watch "Tahj Staveskie 2020 6ft Point Guard" on YouTube
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Post by rywill4 on Feb 11, 2020 0:05:05 GMT -5
Watch "Xavier Simpson, Senior Season Highlights - Ohio's 2016 Mr. Basketball" on YouTube
He is a Michigan help of career I don't see a major difference between him and Tahj highlights and Tahj can't go d1 stop it
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Post by rywill4 on Feb 11, 2020 0:31:56 GMT -5
Watch "Wayne High School's Top Young Talent" on YouTube
Starting point guard at Wisconsin currently having a good career But Tahj can't play D1
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Post by xlegend on Feb 11, 2020 2:57:32 GMT -5
Watch "Tahj Staveskie 2020 6ft Point Guard" on YouTube first of all I want to say is I respect and love tahj game but what I'm about to say your not going to like .your video is misleading as hell.the kids that are guarding him are undersized and not very athletic.i watched tahj play at the Nike slam in cbus. He had an ok tournament but tnba played all Ohio red for chamouonship and tnba put the clamps on him.tahj didn't score a bucket.not one.and if you don't believe me ask Dylan.tnba had some guards that could defend but they are going d2. Your all hung up on him going d1 but at the end of the day does it REALLY matter? I'm a huge fan of tahj and hope the best for him but you act like it's d1 or bust.you shouldn't do that to a kid.its ok to go d2,d3. It's not the end of the world it's only the beginning.good luck the rest of the year.go flashes
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Post by rywill4 on Feb 11, 2020 6:34:38 GMT -5
Nothing misleading about footage facts game is game if you know how too evaluate kids.. was at same tournament and Tahj played with all Ohio Red it was his first time playing with them and tnnba did not put the clamps on him.. All Ohio Red won tournament and Tahj got named one out the top performers of event go do your research facts.. You are trying too go off one game his body of work speak for itself.. I'm just giving You the footage now you hating saying it's misleading. His camp saying high major or prep nothing with d2 or d3 facts.. You can have your assumptions but your not deciding for him.. break down the film nothing misleading.. You stating one game out the whole tournament not including HR help lead them too chip and was a top performer at event.. And who are the guards from tnnba who put the clamps.. From me watching event tnnba had one quality guard chase Toppin and Tahj has and way overall better game than him
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Post by rywill4 on Feb 11, 2020 6:39:10 GMT -5
And some of those same tnnba guards I have seen tahj get the best of.. Sandusky scrimmage st ignatius from reports that I heard Tahj was best player at scrimmage.. I have seen tahj get the best of tevin Jackson.. ask Dylon about that??
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Post by xlegend on Feb 11, 2020 7:25:08 GMT -5
Nothing misleading about footage facts game is game if you know how too evaluate kids.. was at same tournament and Tahj played with all Ohio Red it was his first time playing with them and tnnba did not put the clamps on him.. All Ohio Red won tournament and Tahj got named one out the top performers of event go do your research facts.. You are trying too go off one game his body of work speak for itself.. I'm just giving You the footage now you hating saying it's misleading. His camp saying high major or prep nothing with d2 or d3 facts.. You can have your assumptions but your not deciding for him.. break down the film nothing misleading.. You stating one game out the whole tournament not including HR help lead them too chip and was a top performer at event.. And who are the guards from tnnba who put the clamps.. From me watching event tnnba had one quality guard chase Toppin and Tahj has and way overall better game than him they beat tnba on a bs call at the end but Cooper had a shot at the end to win it but missed.i was there my man. Tahj didn't score.. fact. And yes tevin was guarding him and shut him down...fact.dont make excuses.im sure tahj doesn't make any so don't make them for him And now your saying tnba had one quality guard. OMG your losing it.if you want to talk point guards I'll take tevin everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.that kid play lock down d and loves to pass the ball.best passer I've seen in a long time.both those guys are going d2 but according to you if a kid goes d2 he isn't any good. That's shameful to say the least. I'm guessing your the one giving bad advise to tajh.im guessing it's a pretty good guess.and look here Linda anyone can put a high light reel together and make a player look good.i can put together a video with a couple of kids from willard and you would be saying the same thing.highlights are just that.i feel bad for tajh if your his mentor or whatever you are.Your taking away what an incredible year he his having.go flashes
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Post by xlegend on Feb 11, 2020 7:37:12 GMT -5
And some of those same tnnba guards I have seen tahj get the best of.. Sandusky scrimmage st ignatius from reports that I heard Tahj was best player at scrimmage.. I have seen tahj get the best of tevin Jackson.. ask Dylon about that?? btw how do I go about getting a camp of people with reporters? does double question mark mean your asking it twice??
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Post by dude on Feb 11, 2020 7:57:25 GMT -5
College sports rosters are filled with players who had high school injuries. I hope he gets better advice and gets an offer from a place he can play. Going D1 just to say you did and sitting the bench is not something this kid’s support group would accept.
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Post by sport24278 on Feb 11, 2020 8:09:18 GMT -5
this thread is getting beyond stupid. how many did he have in the 2nd half vs norwalk, with the league title on the line?
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Post by marchmadness on Feb 11, 2020 8:21:07 GMT -5
I agree. This thread is getting stupid.
I think confidence is important in athletics, but arrogance backfires. The arrogance of Tajh on the court and with his quotes in the paper along with the arrogance on RyWill on here are a turnoff.
To compare Tajh to Xavier Simpson is a JOKE. Xavier was lightning quick in high school. Tajh is probably as good of a shooter, but no where near the speed or handles of Xavier. I can't believe I even wasted my time typing that. I think almost everyone already knows that.
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Post by xlegend on Feb 11, 2020 8:38:57 GMT -5
I agree. This thread is getting stupid. I think confidence is important in athletics, but arrogance backfires. The arrogance of Tajh on the court and with his quotes in the paper along with the arrogance on RyWill on here are a turnoff. To compare Tajh to Xavier Simpson is a JOKE. Xavier was lightning quick in high school. Tajh is probably as good of a shooter, but no where near the speed or handles of Xavier. I can't believe I even wasted my time typing that. I think almost everyone already knows that. agree. Let's move on. Go truckers. Oops lol hi
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Post by portwalk on Feb 11, 2020 11:28:16 GMT -5
College sports rosters are filled with players who had high school injuries. I hope he gets better advice and gets an offer from a place he can play. Going D1 just to say you did and sitting the bench is not something this kid’s support group would accept. Coaches are getting film? I had a child that competed at a D1 level and I believe I sent out letters and tapes at the end of her Sophomore season. I sometimes think this whole conversation is hoax but wh would take the time???
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Post by rywill4 on Feb 11, 2020 11:43:55 GMT -5
First off everyone entitled too there opinion facts.. But none if your opinions are valid just trumped hate.. You talk tevin Jacobs locked Tahj up And us better when i saw first hand Tahj outplay tevin on multiple occasions.. Not too take away from any kid or down play tevin but you brought him into equation watch there footage and break there games down. AND YES Xavier Simpson is an accurate comparison stop with this his is way faster than Tahj. In high school I have seen Xavier Simpson live in high school he was no where faster than Tahj.. And who is being arrogant nobody on here gassing Tahj I'm stating the kid is a high major guard you all are commenting stating he is not.. what article have you read that Tahj is boasting or bragging show me the article.. Because a kid has a goal and puts it out to public and you all feel he should do something else and take that is arrogant stop where was all this for Jimmy Langhusrt and Nick dials and jon diebler never heard people state they were arrogant or downplay there game.. No it's a black kid from Sandusky who who has goals and wants too play d1 and feels he is high major and now he is arrogant.. Maybe he should just settle or be like Ben or Brandon haraway too black kids that went d2 miss me... All you guys are funny bc you took this post somewhere else look at the title why is Sandusky not in AP top 10.. You guys start commenting Tahj is not d1 I spoke facts too back it up.. Even posted film of Tahj and other similar players who is playing high major d1 ball at big time schools.. Tahj has deeper range than both the guards I mentioned in high school same explosivness and finishing ability and similar size.. They are both dimitirc trice and Simpson playing at big ten schools but you all say Tahj can't even go d1.. Man stop it I'm done bc none of you know basketball y'all just hating.. and hate too see a kid from Sandusky playing well and have opportunities too play high level ball facts.. True colors come too the light and people expose there true colors bc I never heard these sentiments with Nick dials Jimmy langhurst jon diebler.. I never heard they were not d1 players or competition was a factor or size or quickness was an issue. When Norwalk made there runs in 2013 2014 never heard there teams were not good bc they didn't play anyone. Now Sandusky is having a good season Tahj is looking like a d1 player all the criticism start coming out... All you who comment without breaking down basketball show your true colors and you biases facts!!!!
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Post by rywill4 on Feb 11, 2020 11:47:18 GMT -5
I'm glad I got on this forum too expose alot of you area coaches and so called basketball followers bc some of you hide behind this board but coach area schools or have influence in schools and are hating on kids downplaying kids on personal feelings when the dust settles we will see where Tahj ends up.. Until then stop commenting on the kid facts
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Post by rywill4 on Feb 11, 2020 12:08:27 GMT -5
And those santoro girls d1 what make them so great they small and not exceptionally fast food shooters. I don't hear anyone saying they can't play d1 when the Cahill girl was at clyde tearing it up never heard she is not playing anyone she is not athletic enough nothing but praise and she went d1.. I see where the bias lies only black kids from Sandusky can not go d1 but Norwalk Willard upper Sandusky kids are just upper echelon none of what you knock Tahj for apply. Speak on that
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Post by dump on Feb 11, 2020 12:22:26 GMT -5
Rywill, I hate to see it but you’re making Tahj look bad on here. The kid is having a hell of a year. Going to be First team All -State. Let his season play out and let the chips fall where they may.. I have seen a lot of good ball players around here in the past ten years and can only think of one who went D1. And that’s Jeff Thomas. Jeff also played on a Nike sponsored AAU team and his team won the state title. Unless you’re playing at a neighboring D1 school like Lorain, who have sent numerous kids to D1 schools in the past ten years,, you have to play on a great AAU team to get exposure.. I can think of a lot of kids who in my mind could have went D1 who didn’t get the chance. Ben Haraway, Nic Williams, Jayrese Williams, Paul Hinckley, Greg Baker... all of these kids had the skill to go D1 but for whatever reason never made it. It’s the nature of the beast growing up between Cleveland and Toledo and not playing D1 ball., I wish the kid the best. If he really wants to go D1, go the Paul Hinckley/ Terry Rozier route and go Prep for a year and then try again. I wish the kid the best, he is a really talented player. But let the kid play his season out.
Go Tigers
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 11, 2020 12:30:10 GMT -5
And those santoro girls d1 what make them so great they small and not exceptionally fast food shooters. I don't hear anyone saying they can't play d1 when the Cahill girl was at clyde tearing it up never heard she is not playing anyone she is not athletic enough nothing but praise and she went d1.. I see where the bias lies only black kids from Sandusky can not go d1 but Norwalk Willard upper Sandusky kids are just upper echelon none of what you knock Tahj for apply. Speak on that I was waiting for this shoe to fall. When things aren't going well in a discussion or debate. Losers resort to... racism must be the reason. BTW, no one has said Tahj isn't capable of playing at a DI school somewhere. The problem is, it's the end of his Senior year and none of the 350 DI schools have even floated an offer. Speak to that.(not on)
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Post by crimson5 on Feb 11, 2020 12:32:36 GMT -5
And those santoro girls d1 what make them so great they small and not exceptionally fast food shooters. I don't hear anyone saying they can't play d1 when the Cahill girl was at clyde tearing it up never heard she is not playing anyone she is not athletic enough nothing but praise and she went d1.. I see where the bias lies only black kids from Sandusky can not go d1 but Norwalk Willard upper Sandusky kids are just upper echelon none of what you knock Tahj for apply. Speak on that I was waiting for this shoe to fall. When things aren't going well in a discussion or debate. Losers resort to... racism must be the reason. BTW, no has said Tahj isn't capable of playing at a DI school somewhere. The problem is, it's the end of his Senior year and none of the 350 DI schools have even floated an offer. Speak to that. They are all racist too.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 11, 2020 12:33:29 GMT -5
I agree. This thread is getting stupid. I think confidence is important in athletics, but arrogance backfires. The arrogance of Tajh on the court and with his quotes in the paper along with the arrogance on RyWill on here are a turnoff. To compare Tajh to Xavier Simpson is a JOKE. Xavier was lightning quick in high school. Tajh is probably as good of a shooter, but no where near the speed or handles of Xavier. I can't believe I even wasted my time typing that. I think almost everyone already knows that. It sure as heck has stolen the thunder from the "Willard basketball" thread. WAY down in posts from last year. Me thinks there's some sort of a conspiracy afoot.
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Post by Nashville Buckeye on Feb 11, 2020 12:54:39 GMT -5
Watch "Tahj Staveskie 6ft Point Guard Class Of 2020" on YouTube Based on this short video. I'll go out on limb and state that I watched both Haraways, and hes not better than them and they played high D2 at Ashland. Just my thoughts. Hes a nice player, but not D1
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Post by Nashville Buckeye on Feb 11, 2020 12:59:44 GMT -5
And those santoro girls d1 what make them so great they small and not exceptionally fast food shooters. I don't hear anyone saying they can't play d1 when the Cahill girl was at clyde tearing it up never heard she is not playing anyone she is not athletic enough nothing but praise and she went d1.. I see where the bias lies only black kids from Sandusky can not go d1 but Norwalk Willard upper Sandusky kids are just upper echelon none of what you knock Tahj for apply. Speak on that Stop it! It has nothing to do with race/racism. It doesn't always have to go there because you begin to lose the debate.
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