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Post by buckeyekid on Mar 4, 2020 11:56:30 GMT -5
Might as well start a new one. We return some decent/ not all State Level talent(at present) 4 guys who played a lot 1 guy who played a little 1 injured kid who maybe could have helped 2-3 JV level kids who should help.
We have a core of experience. Where we go is up to the kids and coaches.
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Post by truecrimson on Mar 4, 2020 13:04:19 GMT -5
Might as well start a new one. We return some decent/ not all State Level talent(at present) 4 guys who played a lot 1 guy who played a little 1 injured kid who maybe could have helped 2-3 JV level kids who should help. We have a core of experience. Where we go is up to the kids and coaches. .500
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 4, 2020 13:56:02 GMT -5
No stars, maybe that will be a good thing. A deeper bench, maybe that will be a good thing.
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Post by crimson5 on Mar 4, 2020 15:13:26 GMT -5
The biggest challenge will be replacing the 40 points per game that graduates. The upside, we return 3 juniors with significant Varsity experience (2 starters), 1 junior injured this year that would have seen good Varsity minutes and 1 sophmore (starter) with Varsity experience, a handful of juniors (3) that started on the JV team, plus a couple other Sophmores that have the potential to see significant Varsity minutes next year. Of those I just mentioned, 1 Junior was 2nd team All- Conference/2nd team All-District and 1 Sophmore that was HM All-Conference/HM All-District. So, the point is...the cupboard is not bare. Looking at the SBC Bay next year...Margaretta will certainly be the favorite followed by Willard and Huron. OH, PC, and Edison will be mediocre at best. If we play the same schedule as this year, the non-conference opponents will look like this...both Norwalk teams will be very good (Truckers could be outstanding), Bellevue will be better but still average, Perkins will be average at best, Carey will be down, Wynford will be down, Buckeye Central will be better but still average' Upper will be down, Tiffin will be a load, Bucyrus will be the same, Shelby will be very solid, and know nothing about Northwestern. I think a conference record of 8-2 is realistic and a non-conference record of 8-4 is doable.....if we play the same schedule. We are certainly gonna need improved production from the returning lettermen. I think the biggest question marks individually will be if the returning Junior who is a 2 time all conference player can develop a 15 foot jumper. If he does he can be a POY type player. Can the Sophmore take a big leap with the ball in his hands a majority of the time. How will the injured Junior contribute next year. It's a long long time away, but how much work is done in the off-season will matter alot (like most teams). Worst case I see is 14-8 regular season, best case 18-4. .500 is out of the question as truecrimson believes.
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Post by portwalk on Mar 4, 2020 16:16:35 GMT -5
Good to see the optimism especially after going 19-3 to think 18-4 is a possibility. While I agree that some experienced players come back there is guards which is good but NO post players which is not good as a lot of good looks came from the two seniors also floor spacing. The league will not be as good however OH, Huron and Margaretta will be ok. As for non-conference Shelby, Norwalk, NSP, Northwestern, Upper will all be challenging.
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Post by buckeyekid on Mar 5, 2020 8:32:21 GMT -5
Hope these guys run track and or get into the weight room. Just playing AAU isn't enough. Need to get quicker and stronger. Myles please play football.
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Post by crimson5 on Mar 5, 2020 8:46:44 GMT -5
Good to see the optimism especially after going 19-3 to think 18-4 is a possibility. While I agree that some experienced players come back there is guards which is good but NO post players which is not good as a lot of good looks came from the two seniors also floor spacing. The league will not be as good however OH, Huron and Margaretta will be ok. As for non-conference Shelby, Norwalk, NSP, Northwestern, Upper will all be challenging. Actually, the Flashes were 20-2 regular season, not 19-3. Yea, lack of height may be an issue but I like M. Dawson's game alot. He's a really good defender on the inside but prone to foul trouble. Wish we had another big an inch or 2 taller. Oak Harbor will be down substantially and so will Upper Sandusky. Not really concerned about either team.
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Post by crimson5 on Mar 5, 2020 8:51:22 GMT -5
Hope these guys run track and or get into the weight room. Just playing AAU isn't enough. Need to get quicker and stronger. Myles please play football. Hitting the weight room has to be a priority, I agree. Could care less who runs track and/or plays football. I'm not a believer that if you play a 2nd or 3rd sport it makes you better at your primary sport.
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Post by truecrimson on Mar 5, 2020 8:55:45 GMT -5
The biggest challenge will be replacing the 40 points per game that graduates. The upside, we return 3 juniors with significant Varsity experience (2 starters), 1 junior injured this year that would have seen good Varsity minutes and 1 sophmore (starter) with Varsity experience, a handful of juniors (3) that started on the JV team, plus a couple other Sophmores that have the potential to see significant Varsity minutes next year. Of those I just mentioned, 1 Junior was 2nd team All- Conference/2nd team All-District and 1 Sophmore that was HM All-Conference/HM All-District. So, the point is...the cupboard is not bare. Looking at the SBC Bay next year...Margaretta will certainly be the favorite followed by Willard and Huron. OH, PC, and Edison will be mediocre at best. If we play the same schedule as this year, the non-conference opponents will look like this...both Norwalk teams will be very good (Truckers could be outstanding), Bellevue will be better but still average, Perkins will be average at best, Carey will be down, Wynford will be down, Buckeye Central will be better but still average' Upper will be down, Tiffin will be a load, Bucyrus will be the same, Shelby will be very solid, and know nothing about Northwestern. I think a conference record of 8-2 is realistic and a non-conference record of 8-4 is doable.....if we play the same schedule. We are certainly gonna need improved production from the returning lettermen. I think the biggest question marks individually will be if the returning Junior who is a 2 time all conference player can develop a 15 foot jumper. If he does he can be a POY type player. Can the Sophmore take a big leap with the ball in his hands a majority of the time. How will the injured Junior contribute next year. It's a long long time away, but how much work is done in the off-season will matter alot (like most teams). Worst case I see is 14-8 regular season, best case 18-4. .500 is out of the question as truecrimson believes. I hope you are correct at 18-4 but this comes down to leadership and a floor general. I did not say the cupboard was bare. I like the Paxton kid's maturity this year, he is getting better but going from follower to leader isn't an easy task. I'm hoping for the best here. Optimism is 14-8 but 3 of those games may come down to outside shooting and leadership on the floor so 11-11 may be more realistic. If they hit 18-4 next year after losing 40 points per game, big time overachieving.
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Post by crimson5 on Mar 5, 2020 9:04:34 GMT -5
The biggest challenge will be replacing the 40 points per game that graduates. The upside, we return 3 juniors with significant Varsity experience (2 starters), 1 junior injured this year that would have seen good Varsity minutes and 1 sophmore (starter) with Varsity experience, a handful of juniors (3) that started on the JV team, plus a couple other Sophmores that have the potential to see significant Varsity minutes next year. Of those I just mentioned, 1 Junior was 2nd team All- Conference/2nd team All-District and 1 Sophmore that was HM All-Conference/HM All-District. So, the point is...the cupboard is not bare. Looking at the SBC Bay next year...Margaretta will certainly be the favorite followed by Willard and Huron. OH, PC, and Edison will be mediocre at best. If we play the same schedule as this year, the non-conference opponents will look like this...both Norwalk teams will be very good (Truckers could be outstanding), Bellevue will be better but still average, Perkins will be average at best, Carey will be down, Wynford will be down, Buckeye Central will be better but still average' Upper will be down, Tiffin will be a load, Bucyrus will be the same, Shelby will be very solid, and know nothing about Northwestern. I think a conference record of 8-2 is realistic and a non-conference record of 8-4 is doable.....if we play the same schedule. We are certainly gonna need improved production from the returning lettermen. I think the biggest question marks individually will be if the returning Junior who is a 2 time all conference player can develop a 15 foot jumper. If he does he can be a POY type player. Can the Sophmore take a big leap with the ball in his hands a majority of the time. How will the injured Junior contribute next year. It's a long long time away, but how much work is done in the off-season will matter alot (like most teams). Worst case I see is 14-8 regular season, best case 18-4. .500 is out of the question as truecrimson believes. I hope you are correct at 18-4 but this comes down to leadership and a floor general. I did not say the cupboard was bare. I like the Paxton kid's maturity this year, he is getting better but going from follower to leader isn't an easy task. I'm hoping for the best here. Optimism is 14-8 but 3 of those games may come down to outside shooting and leadership on the floor so 11-11 may be more realistic. If they hit 18-4 next year after losing 40 points per game, big time overachieving. I think 18-4 is a stretch. I agree with your comments about going from follower to floor general. I also think the improvement, or lack of, at this position will be the biggest determining factor in the Flashes success next year. So, I guess we agree. 🙂
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Post by bat21 on Mar 5, 2020 9:06:06 GMT -5
Might as well start a new one. We return some decent/ not all State Level talent(at present) 4 guys who played a lot 1 guy who played a little 1 injured kid who maybe could have helped 2-3 JV level kids who should help. We have a core of experience. Where we go is up to the kids and coaches. .500 That would be an amazing baseball season ...
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Post by sport24278 on Mar 5, 2020 9:25:43 GMT -5
you guys continue to amaze. losing your two best players and think you will win 18 next year? will you never learn about making predictions?
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Post by truecrimson on Mar 5, 2020 9:27:32 GMT -5
That would be an amazing baseball season ... a good batting average and pitcher win/loss average too.
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Post by crimson5 on Mar 5, 2020 9:29:38 GMT -5
you guys continue to amaze. losing your two best players and think you will win 18 next year? will you never learn about making predictions? You guys continue to amaze me....with your lack of reading comprehension. There was no prediction of 18 wins next year.
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Post by xlegend on Mar 5, 2020 11:14:45 GMT -5
you guys continue to amaze. losing your two best players and think you will win 18 next year? will you never learn about making predictions? You guys continue to amaze me....with your lack of reading comprehension. There was no prediction of 18 wins next year. 40 points a game isn't the only thing we're losing.20 rebounds, shot blocker,and leadership.thats a ton to lose I mean a ton.i love all these kids and the kids coming back are nice player's.whos going to step up next year? who's going to be the leader? there's a lot of .
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Post by xlegend on Mar 5, 2020 11:40:17 GMT -5
The biggest challenge will be replacing the 40 points per game that graduates. The upside, we return 3 juniors with significant Varsity experience (2 starters), 1 junior injured this year that would have seen good Varsity minutes and 1 sophmore (starter) with Varsity experience, a handful of juniors (3) that started on the JV team, plus a couple other Sophmores that have the potential to see significant Varsity minutes next year. Of those I just mentioned, 1 Junior was 2nd team All- Conference/2nd team All-District and 1 Sophmore that was HM All-Conference/HM All-District. So, the point is...the cupboard is not bare. Looking at the SBC Bay next year...Margaretta will certainly be the favorite followed by Willard and Huron. OH, PC, and Edison will be mediocre at best. If we play the same schedule as this year, the non-conference opponents will look like this...both Norwalk teams will be very good (Truckers could be outstanding), Bellevue will be better but still average, Perkins will be average at best, Carey will be down, Wynford will be down, Buckeye Central will be better but still average' Upper will be down, Tiffin will be a load, Bucyrus will be the same, Shelby will be very solid, and know nothing about Northwestern. I think a conference record of 8-2 is realistic and a non-conference record of 8-4 is doable.....if we play the same schedule. We are certainly gonna need improved production from the returning lettermen. I think the biggest question marks individually will be if the returning Junior who is a 2 time all conference player can develop a 15 foot jumper. If he does he can be a POY type player. Can the Sophmore take a big leap with the ball in his hands a majority of the time. How will the injured Junior contribute next year. It's a long long time away, but how much work is done in the off-season will matter alot (like most teams). Worst case I see is 14-8 regular season, best case 18-4. .500 is out of the question as truecrimson believes. I hope you are correct at 18-4 but this comes down to leadership and a floor general. I did not say the cupboard was bare. I like the Paxton kid's maturity this year, he is getting better but going from follower to leader isn't an easy task. I'm hoping for the best here. Optimism is 14-8 but 3 of those games may come down to outside shooting and leadership on the floor so 11-11 may be more realistic. If they hit 18-4 next year after losing 40 points per game, big time overachieving. having skeeter and Cooper on the floor made life easy for the other players on the floor. Now that their gone all the attention us going to be on Myles and trey. Can they handle all that pressure? I hope so but only time will tell.if Myles can't hit the jumper there going to pack it in and have a guy glued to trey.trey needs to develope a strong left hand. He sees the floor and a very good passer and can shoot.he will take a lot of shots next year as he should.dawson has shown he can shoot the three. I like him a lot.adelmen is great role player and we should have Weiss round out the starting five.weiss kid plays hard.i didn't understand why he didn't play much varsity this year especially if we're trying to press.
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Post by portwalk on Mar 5, 2020 18:49:21 GMT -5
you guys continue to amaze. losing your two best players and think you will win 18 next year? will you never learn about making predictions? You guys continue to amaze me....with your lack of reading comprehension. There was no prediction of 18 wins next year. I believe it was and in fact you made it
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Post by crimson5 on Mar 5, 2020 18:57:02 GMT -5
You guys continue to amaze me....with your lack of reading comprehension. There was no prediction of 18 wins next year. I believe it was and in fact you made it Obviously, you have no idea what a prediction is. The post reads, "worst case 14-8, best case 18-4, that is not a prediction of 18 wins. I guess you can say I predicted somewhere between 14 and 18 wins and you would be loosely correct.
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Post by portwalk on Mar 5, 2020 19:10:31 GMT -5
I believe it was and in fact you made it Obviously, you have no idea what a prediction is. The post reads, "worst case 14-8, best case 18-4, that is not a prediction of 18 wins. I guess you can say I predicted somewhere between 14 and 18 wins and you would be loosely correct. I’m really not trying to debate this however when you say Worst case 14-8 and Best case 18-4. Your predicting between14 & 18 wins so yeah your predicting 18-4 as a possibility.
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Post by crimson5 on Mar 5, 2020 19:13:15 GMT -5
Obviously, you have no idea what a prediction is. The post reads, "worst case 14-8, best case 18-4, that is not a prediction of 18 wins. I guess you can say I predicted somewhere between 14 and 18 wins and you would be loosely correct. I’m really not trying to debate this however when you say Worst case 14-8 and Best case 18-4. Your predicting between14 & 18 wins so yeah your predicting 18-4 as a possibility. This is tiring, you win, I predict Willard will win all 22 games next year. That better?
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Post by portwalk on Mar 5, 2020 19:14:43 GMT -5
I’m really not trying to debate this however when you say Worst case 14-8 and Best case 18-4. Your predicting between14 & 18 wins so yeah your predicting 18-4 as a possibility. This is tiring, you win, I predict Willard will win all 22 games next year. That better? [br Nope you didn’t say or predict that but whatever
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Post by kingmartinez on Mar 5, 2020 19:25:41 GMT -5
Didn't someone say in the preseason that Pinkston was a DI player?
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Post by ronburgandy on Mar 5, 2020 19:27:23 GMT -5
Didn't someone say in the preseason that Pinkston was a DI player? truecrimson did... yeah we’re all scratching our heads on that one too.
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Post by portwalk on Mar 5, 2020 21:12:02 GMT -5
I believe the exact statement was if he develops his jump shot he can be a D1 player...
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Post by truecrimson on Mar 5, 2020 21:24:15 GMT -5
Didn't someone say in the preseason that Pinkston was a DI player? truecrimson did... yeah we’re all scratching our heads on that one too. My exact statement was if he develops a jump shot he is a D1 prospect. So crawl back under that rock you DB and don’t pick bits and pieces of a comment out that fits your argument. DH.
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Post by ronburgandy on Mar 5, 2020 21:33:33 GMT -5
truecrimson did... yeah we’re all scratching our heads on that one too. My exact statement was if he develops a jump shot he is a D1 prospect. So crawl back under that rock you DB and don’t pick bits and pieces of a comment out that fits your argument. DH. Such harsh words. Even then he’s not a D1 prospect unfortunately.
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Post by portwalk on Mar 5, 2020 21:49:36 GMT -5
Hostility in house???
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Post by ronburgandy on Mar 5, 2020 21:51:28 GMT -5
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Post by portwalk on Mar 6, 2020 7:05:11 GMT -5
A couple of Flashes fans slinging mud...
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Post by truecrimson on Mar 6, 2020 7:59:03 GMT -5
A couple of Flashes fans slinging mud... Not slinging anything. The fact that someone can take a part of a comment and mold it into a statement to start an argument, sure I'll respond to that fake news.
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