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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 14, 2020 11:45:36 GMT -5
Discussion and Opinion is what makes America great. I disagree that you need a bunch of 6'4 guys to run it and be effective. You need the right players to run it and be effective is what I think. In Paxton Pinkston Dawson and Adelman---I think these 4 for sure fit that role. All in the 6'2---6'3 range Paxton is the only one that has the potential in this group that can consistently make the outside shout. That is what CP and TB brought to the table. To my point. Unless a couple of other players improve to making at least 35% of their 3-pointers. Then the best thing to do in the half court would be to be patient in running an offense that will get layups or close to the basket shots. As opposed to most of the 6-2 players looking for 3-point shots.
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Post by Jahleh on Mar 16, 2020 4:20:36 GMT -5
Paxton is the only one that has the potential in this group that can consistently make the outside shout. That is what CP and TB brought to the table. To my point. Unless a couple of other players improve to making at least 35% of their 3-pointers. Then the best thing to do in the half court would be to be patient in running an offense that will get layups or close to the basket shots. As opposed to most of the 6-2 players looking for 3-point shots. You don’t get anywhere shooting all those jumpers... get to the rack Fillmore.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 16, 2020 12:04:20 GMT -5
Lay ups and close to the basket isn't getting to the rack JollY?
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Post by dude on Mar 16, 2020 14:21:28 GMT -5
In Paxton Pinkston Dawson and Adelman---I think these 4 for sure fit that role. All in the 6'2---6'3 range Paxton is the only one that has the potential in this group that can consistently make the outside shout. That is what CP and TB brought to the table. Looks like these are your options. 3 pt FG% Paxton 31% Pinkston 20% Dawson 29% Cok 42%
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Post by truecrimson on Mar 16, 2020 18:13:30 GMT -5
Paxton is the only one that has the potential in this group that can consistently make the outside shout. That is what CP and TB brought to the table. Looks like these are your options. 3 pt FG% Paxton 31% Pinkston 20% Dawson 29% Cok 42% I would think you would want your 3 point shooters in the 33%+ range. There are a couple kids on jv that may be close to that %.
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Post by dude on Mar 16, 2020 18:24:52 GMT -5
Looks like these are your options. 3 pt FG% Paxton 31% Pinkston 20% Dawson 29% Cok 42% I would think you would want your 3 point shooters in the 33%+ range. There are a couple kids on jv that may be close to that %. From now until Nov, the guys above maybe can get to 33%.
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Post by crimson5 on Mar 16, 2020 22:41:51 GMT -5
I would think you would want your 3 point shooters in the 33%+ range. There are a couple kids on jv that may be close to that %. From now until Nov, the guys above maybe can get to 33%. As you astutely pointed out in a previous post, the number of shots a kid takes can greatly impact their %, both negatively and positively. Pure shooters typically, not always, need a few shots to find rythm and feel, and then can knock down 3 or 4 in a row, possibly 6 or 7 out of ten. Conversely, just because a kid hit 4 out of 10 3's on the season doesn't mean he's a great 3 point shooter. He could be, but I would want a much larger sampling before making that statement. The good thing is, all these kids should get more shots next year to prove themselves.
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Post by buckeyekid on Mar 17, 2020 6:35:49 GMT -5
I would think at least two others would be in this category as well. Meisner who was injured. Weiss who was a JV guy as a freshman. These are two that I would think would be in the top 8 certainly,,but C5 may be better to comment on than I. There's a couple other JV guys who also may factor in as well.
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Post by truecrimson on Mar 17, 2020 6:46:08 GMT -5
I would think at least two others would be in this category as well. Meisner who was injured. Weiss who was a JV guy as a freshman. These are two that I would think would be in the top 8 certainly,,but C5 may be better to comment on than I. There's a couple other JV guys who also may factor in as well. I don't know what % the jv players shot because they don't post that in the paper, would be nice to know. Who can get that information? It would at least allow us to see what they shot as jv players and give us a good idea who may be shooting what. As I said, the only kid that I saw in that starting rotation that had a decent jump shot was the paxton kid so they'll need some help next year. I know, November is a long way off. The Meisner kid was decent as a jv player year before last but an injury like he had takes some time to come back from.
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Post by dude on Mar 17, 2020 7:04:20 GMT -5
From now until Nov, the guys above maybe can get to 33%. As you astutely pointed out in a previous post, the number of shots a kid takes can greatly impact their %, both negatively and positively. Pure shooters typically, not always, need a few shots to find rythm and feel, and then can knock down 3 or 4 in a row, possibly 6 or 7 out of ten. Conversely, just because a kid hit 4 out of 10 3's on the season doesn't mean he's a great 3 point shooter. He could be, but I would want a much larger sampling before making that statement. The good thing is, all these kids should get more shots next year to prove themselves. Those are the numbers provided. If I knew a kid was 4 for 10 on the season I wouldn't include him on this list. Need to shoot 1+/game to be considered as a 3 point shooter in my arena.
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Post by crimson5 on Apr 2, 2020 16:03:12 GMT -5
Looking at next year's schedule, what I can see so far, looks like Willard has picked up Toledo Cardinal Stritch at home for 2020/21. Not sure who we dropped, thinking it's Buckeye Central.
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Post by bat21 on Apr 4, 2020 9:27:17 GMT -5
I'm not sure we dropped anyone. I think we were dropped. We did pick up Strich
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Post by dude on Apr 4, 2020 9:43:32 GMT -5
I'm not sure we dropped anyone. I think we were dropped. We did pick up Strich
30 and 40 point wins can do that.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Apr 4, 2020 11:47:39 GMT -5
Looking at next year's schedule, what I can see so far, looks like Willard has picked up Toledo Cardinal Stritch at home for 2020/21. Not sure who we dropped, thinking it's Buckeye Central. Had to go that far to find a game? I can think of several worthy opponents closer than Stritch.
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Post by truecrimson on Apr 6, 2020 7:44:28 GMT -5
I'm not sure we dropped anyone. I think we were dropped. We did pick up Strich
30 and 40 point wins can do that. Won't see many of those in the coming year unless it is against the likes of a BC (which dropped us) or Bucyrus. TCS playing here should be fun, if nothing more at least a competitive game. Good to see Willard pick up a game with substance, BC wasn't worth the $6.
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Post by dude on Apr 6, 2020 8:07:48 GMT -5
30 and 40 point wins can do that. Won't see many of those in the coming year unless it is against the likes of a BC (which dropped us) or Bucyrus. TCS playing here should be fun, if nothing more at least a competitive game. Good to see Willard pick up a game with substance, BC wasn't worth the $6. The thing to remember is only 2 years ago Willard was dropping some long time opponents after having a season similar to BC. I have always felt it is a good thing to have your schedule provide challenging opponents. Scheduling teams that consistently and comfortably provide you a win will never progress your program.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Apr 6, 2020 11:55:57 GMT -5
30 and 40 point wins can do that. Won't see many of those in the coming year unless it is against the likes of a BC (which dropped us) or Bucyrus. TCS playing here should be fun, if nothing more at least a competitive game. Good to see Willard pick up a game with substance, BC wasn't worth the $6. It was just 4 years ago when BC was thought to be a "game of substance". When for the first time in history they were added to Willard's schedule.
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Post by portwalk on Apr 6, 2020 18:45:18 GMT -5
Looking at next year's schedule, what I can see so far, looks like Willard has picked up Toledo Cardinal Stritch at home for 2020/21. Not sure who we dropped, thinking it's Buckeye Central. Had to go that far to find a game? I can think of several worthy opponents closer than Stritch. I agree if ready put Ontario back on the schedule only 20 some miles down the road and a top notch D2/D3 opponent
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Post by buckeyekid on Apr 6, 2020 21:24:45 GMT -5
did Ontario have an opening?
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Post by portwalk on Apr 7, 2020 17:01:05 GMT -5
did Ontario have an opening? Not sure I would think they could find a sister of the poor to drop but I’ll let WF chime in...
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Post by dude on Apr 7, 2020 19:43:05 GMT -5
did Ontario have an opening? Not sure I would think they could find a sister of the poor to drop but I’ll let WF chime in... Glad someone else said it. They did play Orrville at the College of Wooster classic that would be an opening.
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Post by edchambers on Apr 10, 2020 11:58:47 GMT -5
Not sure I would think they could find a sister of the poor to drop but I’ll let WF chime in... Glad someone else said it. They did play Orrville at the College of Wooster classic that would be an opening. Ontario has picked up Huron on their schedule.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Apr 10, 2020 12:36:04 GMT -5
Willard/Ontario would have closer for both schools than Stritch and Huron. Also, there's a history for Willard/Ontario. Not that Stritch and Huron won't be good games for both. Who did Huron lose from their schedule that opened a spot to add Ontario? Dude thinks every game on Ontario's schedule are "sisters of the poor"..... EXCEPT Lexington, of course. Kid, tell Joe to keep in contact with Ontario AD Fisher. I doubt Lucas will be on the schedule after their home game next year, they're not going to be nearly as good as this year. Kenton/Ontario last year only happened due to no one closer had an open date or wanted them on their schedule.
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Post by dude on Apr 11, 2020 12:33:42 GMT -5
Glad someone else said it. They did play Orrville at the College of Wooster classic that would be an opening. Ontario has picked up Huron on their schedule. That should be a solid game.
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Post by buckeyekid on Apr 12, 2020 15:35:07 GMT -5
I'm keeping my expectations tempered a little because we are losing 2 of the best players we've had in the last 10 years. Not saying our returnees cannot improve year over year,,but we have a lot of points/ rebounds to make up someplace. More spread out no doubt,,but I'm not sure who the go to guy is? I'll count on C5 to keep the WHS fans informed of how the summer goes.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Apr 12, 2020 16:04:50 GMT -5
did Ontario have an opening? Ontario would have known for a year they had an opening coming. College of Wooster games are a one year deal for teams outside the the Wooster area.
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Post by crimson5 on Apr 12, 2020 18:21:14 GMT -5
I'm keeping my expectations tempered a little because we are losing 2 of the best players we've had in the last 10 years. Not saying our returnees cannot improve year over year,,but we have a lot of points/ rebounds to make up someplace. More spread out no doubt,,but I'm not sure who the go to guy is? I'll count on C5 to keep the WHS fans informed of how the summer goes. Like you, my expectations are a bit tempered as well. I do believe 13/14 wins is very realistic just based on the schedule. I think we know what most of the senior class will bring next year, as we've seen them play for 3 years now. They will be very solid and know their roles very well. The unknown is the junior class next year. They have the biggest opportunity for surprise...or let down. I'm anxious to see the improvement in Cok as well. He has a nice upside if he puts it the time and stays healthy. You know I'll be watching everything as soon as things open back up. I'll keep you informed.
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Post by xlegend on Apr 12, 2020 20:45:41 GMT -5
From now until Nov, the guys above maybe can get to 33%. As you astutely pointed out in a previous post, the number of shots a kid takes can greatly impact their %, both negatively and positively. Pure shooters typically, not always, need a few shots to find rythm and feel, and then can knock down 3 or 4 in a row, possibly 6 or 7 out of ten. Conversely, just because a kid hit 4 out of 10 3's on the season doesn't mean he's a great 3 point shooter. He could be, but I would want a much larger sampling before making that statement. The good thing is, all these kids should get more shots next year to prove themselves. if you guys are Banking on those other kids to bail us out then it's going to be a long season.we are only losing two all Ohio players.obove 500 is possible. But from what I've seen it won't be much over that. Let's see how good of a coach Joe is without his all Ohio player's.the guy shouldn't even be a coach with all the poop he covers up if you people only knew what I know.thats another reason we lost to cc. Jmo.
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Post by crimson5 on Apr 12, 2020 21:52:38 GMT -5
As you astutely pointed out in a previous post, the number of shots a kid takes can greatly impact their %, both negatively and positively. Pure shooters typically, not always, need a few shots to find rythm and feel, and then can knock down 3 or 4 in a row, possibly 6 or 7 out of ten. Conversely, just because a kid hit 4 out of 10 3's on the season doesn't mean he's a great 3 point shooter. He could be, but I would want a much larger sampling before making that statement. The good thing is, all these kids should get more shots next year to prove themselves. if you guys are Banking on those other kids to bail us out then it's going to be a long season.we are only losing two all Ohio players.obove 500 is possible. But from what I've seen it won't be much over that. Let's see how good of a coach Joe is without his all Ohio player's.the guy shouldn't even be a coach with all the poop he covers up if you people only knew what I know.thats another reason we lost to cc. Jmo. I am much more concerned about the loss of Baldridge. IMO he was the MVP on that team. His shot blocking was overlooked and how it changed our opponents game on the inside. Not taking anything away from Parrot, but Baldridge was the horse.....on both ends of the court.
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Post by jmorgret07 on Apr 13, 2020 7:48:00 GMT -5
I see on Twitter that Willard is looking for a home game next year and away the following year.
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