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Post by dude on Mar 19, 2021 16:17:41 GMT -5
Please tell me Washington is going pro.
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Post by sportsjock on Mar 19, 2021 16:17:45 GMT -5
DW Jr. is an 85% FT shooter and throws up back to back clunkers
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Post by sportsjock on Mar 19, 2021 16:20:30 GMT -5
Played right into Oral Roberts hand.
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Post by sportsjock on Mar 19, 2021 16:24:54 GMT -5
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Post by buckeyekid on Mar 19, 2021 16:25:25 GMT -5
And for anyone wondering if Washington was going pro Hell No! What a ******* choke job!
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Post by baldref on Mar 19, 2021 16:28:41 GMT -5
No excuse for this embarrassment. Hard to remember a worse effort in a national setting. Terrible coaching, terrible defense and terrible offense, especially when the inside game could have at least done something. Once again, osu basketball is national joke. Thank god we were not a one seed but this is one for record books. Baylor waltzes to final four.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2021 17:07:04 GMT -5
So which is Holtmann’s fault?: A) 9/18 from the line B) 15 turnovers C) both
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Post by ronburgandy on Mar 19, 2021 17:22:58 GMT -5
A few weeks ago I predicted win first game, lose second. Wow I wasn’t far off. What a choke job.
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Post by sportsjock on Mar 19, 2021 17:35:56 GMT -5
So which is Holtmann’s fault?: A) 9/18 from the line B) 15 turnovers C) both I know what you're saying. Terrible day at the line, terrible day from 3 point range and no excuse for 15 turnovers against a team not noted for defensive prowess. Despite all that, they had no set play for what should have been the game winner, at the end of regulation. They simply looked lost and clueless. For that, I blame the coach.
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Post by ronburgandy on Mar 19, 2021 17:43:20 GMT -5
Yeah I’m putting some of this on the coaching. The players obviously missed shots, committed turnovers, etc. but what was the game plan? What plays did we have down the stretch? Everything just seemed off all game long.
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Post by ronburgandy on Mar 19, 2021 17:49:08 GMT -5
This team is just too much jekyl and Hyde. Up and down all season. Hopefully with essentially the whole team back next year, this up and down won’t be so bad and they’ll be a legit top 10 team, not a pretend top 10 team.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 19, 2021 17:53:06 GMT -5
THE biggest joke is that Oral Roberts is a 15 seed. They have 2 players better than anyone on the Ohio State roster, as well as 75% of the teams in the field.
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Post by ronburgandy on Mar 19, 2021 17:54:49 GMT -5
THE biggest joke is that Oral Roberts is a 15 seed. They have 2 players better than anyone on the Ohio State roster, as well as 75% of the teams in the field. Lol let’s pump the breaks here. Two players better than anyone on Ohio State? No. They just played better, wanted it more, and had a better gameplan.
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Post by baldref on Mar 19, 2021 18:07:24 GMT -5
Yeah I’m putting some of this on the coaching. The players obviously missed shots, committed turnovers, etc. but what was the game plan? What plays did we have down the stretch? Everything just seemed off all game long. [ Yep. It was like, we are better, let's play playground ball and can win because we are ohio state.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 19, 2021 18:08:05 GMT -5
You wouldn't trade Abmas For Walker?? And Obanor out played Liddell in this game and his season stats are better. He averages 18.2 and 9.5 and makes 50.3% of his Field Goals, 47% on 3-pointers and 88.1% of foul shots all better than Liddell.
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Post by ronburgandy on Mar 19, 2021 18:26:18 GMT -5
You wouldn't trade Abmas For Walker?? And Obanor out played Liddell in this game and his season stats are better. He averages 18.2 and 9.5 and makes 50.3% of his Field Goals, 47% on 3-pointers and 88.1% of foul shots all better than Liddell. This is a hot take. Obanor’s stats would not be that good in the Big Ten and everyone knows it. Liddell put up basically the same numbers in the toughest conference. I sure as hell would take Liddell over any of their players for a whole season.
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Post by baldref on Mar 19, 2021 18:29:05 GMT -5
In some respects, willard is right. Oral Robert's was nation's best 3 point shooting team, best free throw team and had nations leading scorer in Abams. BUT, they also played to 4th place in the summit league. If they play in B1G, my guess is they are about mid range and do not have those gaudy stats. OSU just played right into their hands with no real game plan or defense IMO
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Post by ronburgandy on Mar 19, 2021 20:51:20 GMT -5
Big Ten a little overrated maybe? Michigan st, Purdue, and Ohio State all lose already.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 19, 2021 22:50:30 GMT -5
You wouldn't trade Abmas For Walker?? And Obanor out played Liddell in this game and his season stats are better. He averages 18.2 and 9.5 and makes 50.3% of his Field Goals, 47% on 3-pointers and 88.1% of foul shots all better than Liddell. This is a hot take. Obanor’s stats would not be that good in the Big Ten and everyone knows it. Liddell put up basically the same numbers in the toughest conference. I sure as hell would take Liddell over any of their players for a whole season. You wouldn't take Abmas over Walker??? Two stats that Liddell would not be any better than Obanor playing in his league. Liddell's 3-point % is 33.8 and Free Throw % is 75.2. If Liddell makes one more than his 50% FT in this game Ohio State wins. Obanor made 100% of his free throws in this game. Obranor is more skilled, Liddell is 20 pounds heavier.
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Post by ronburgandy on Mar 19, 2021 22:54:49 GMT -5
This is a hot take. Obanor’s stats would not be that good in the Big Ten and everyone knows it. Liddell put up basically the same numbers in the toughest conference. I sure as hell would take Liddell over any of their players for a whole season. You wouldn't take Abmas over Walker??? Two stats that that Liddell would not be any better than Obanor playing in his league. Liddell 3-point % is 33.8 and Free Throw % is 75.2 If Liddell makes one more than his 50% Ft in this game Ohio State wins. Obanor made 100% of his free throws in this game. Still a hot take. You keep saying “this game” and that’s exactly the point. For one game they outplayed Ohio State. For a whole season, yeah I’m still taking Liddell and Walker. You’re getting way too caught up in how a team, that I’m willing to bet you just watched for the first time all year like the rest of us, played in one game.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 19, 2021 22:59:09 GMT -5
NO....It is fact that Obanor is a much better 3-point shooter and a much better Free Throw Shooter. Liddell is not going to shoot a higher % regardless of what league they both play in.
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Post by ronburgandy on Mar 19, 2021 23:03:43 GMT -5
Still a hot take. His 3 point shots in the Big Ten wouldnt be the same, teams would defend it better. Every aspect of his game won’t translate 1 to 1 if he were in the big ten all season. And just because he has a better 3 point percentage and free throw percentage you’re taking him over Liddell? Silly.
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Post by baldref on Mar 20, 2021 9:22:01 GMT -5
the Buckeyes are 31-29 in regular-season Big Ten play the last three seasons, and in three NCAA Tournament appearances, Holtmann’s Buckeyes have never won two games and are 2-3 overall. This program deserves better. What is wrong with this picture?
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Post by buckeyekid on Mar 20, 2021 9:27:47 GMT -5
I’m disappointed but in retrospect Not having Kyle Young yesterday cost us the game. In a nutshell that was a huge missing piece. 10/10 We got next to nothing from Seth Towns, other than his BS kneel.
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Post by dude on Mar 20, 2021 9:38:59 GMT -5
I found stats to show, under Holtmann the buckeyes are 46-32 in Big Ten reg season and made the NCAA tournament every year offered. The last 2 being Covid affected.
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Post by baldref on Mar 20, 2021 10:01:33 GMT -5
the Buckeyes are 31-29 in regular-season Big Ten play the last three seasons, and in three NCAA Tournament appearances, Holtmann’s Buckeyes have never won two games and are 2-3 overall. This program deserves better. What is wrong with this picture? key phrase is last 3 seasons. Are you happy with the direction of the program? Recruiting? As a lifelong Buckeye, I am not. I do not like the downward trend. This program should be better overall than what we've witnessed the last three seasons, that's what I am saying. OSU should be better than a mediocre basketball program.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 20, 2021 10:11:09 GMT -5
Still a hot take. His 3 point shots in the Big Ten wouldnt be the same, teams would defend it better. Every aspect of his game won’t translate 1 to 1 if he were in the big ten all season. And just because he has a better 3 point percentage and free throw percentage you’re taking him over Liddell? Silly. That IS a "hot take". You have no idea how the Big Ten would defend Obranor. Every 3-pointer Liddell took in the Big Ten he was wide open, A FACT and he made 33%. Why would Obranor shoot 3-pointers when he was closely defended?? Obranor made 47%. I made no claim on the number of 3-pointers made, just the efficiency. The FACT is when both of them shot 3-pointers Obranor made a MUCH higher % than Liddell. Why is it more difficult to make Free Throws in the Big Ten?? Obranor made 88%, Liddell made 75%. Obranor is more skilled.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 20, 2021 10:18:20 GMT -5
the Buckeyes are 31-29 in regular-season Big Ten play the last three seasons, and in three NCAA Tournament appearances, Holtmann’s Buckeyes have never won two games and are 2-3 overall. This program deserves better. What is wrong with this picture? key phrase is last 3 seasons. Are you happy with the direction of the program? Recruiting? As a lifelong Buckeye, I am not. I do not like the downward trend. This program should be better overall than what we've witnessed the last three seasons, that's what I am saying. OSU should be better than a mediocre basketball program. This loss is more than demoralizing, it is a dagger in the heart for recruiting. Why would one of the better big men in the country want to come to a school that lost to a 15 seed as a 2 seed? We all know that big men recruiting is THE key to finishing higher than 5th in the Big Ten. Also, no one on the committee will further embarrass themselves by putting Ohio State as high as the 2 line in the near future.
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Post by ronburgandy on Mar 20, 2021 10:22:05 GMT -5
Still a hot take. His 3 point shots in the Big Ten wouldnt be the same, teams would defend it better. Every aspect of his game won’t translate 1 to 1 if he were in the big ten all season. And just because he has a better 3 point percentage and free throw percentage you’re taking him over Liddell? Silly. That IS a "hot take". You have no idea how the Big Ten would defend Obranor. Every 3-pointer Liddell took in the Big Ten he was wide open, A FACT and he made 33%. Why would Obranor shoot 3-pointers when he was closely defended?? Obranor made 47%. I made no claim on the number of 3-pointers made, just the efficiency. The FACT is when both of them shot 3-pointers Obranor made a MUCH higher % than Liddell. Why is it more difficult to make Free Throws in the Big Ten?? Obranor made 88%, Liddell made 75%. Obranor is more skilled. This is still a hot take by you, claiming they had two players better than anyone on Ohio State’s roster. That’s a hot take based on you watching one game. I did not say anything about free throws being harder in the big ten if you read my post again, I only spoke about 3 pointers. There’s a reason that guy is at OR and Liddell is at Ohio State.
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Post by clb6110 on Mar 20, 2021 10:28:41 GMT -5
I'll be watching the NBA draft to see who wins this argument. Haha
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