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Post by dude on May 8, 2020 23:07:27 GMT -5
The interesting thing to me will be can some sports play while others don’t or is it a all play or none play. Seems like golf, cross country and Tennis could play with social distancing, while bigger team sports might be harder. Time will tell, right now I need to see a bigger shift in how the state is dealing with kids. They need to let kids back to school full time, that’s step one and I’m not sure we are 50% there yet. Would you really be able to tell a cross country runner they cannot pass another runner because they would get to close. If you have ever watch a CC finish line, runners can literally be falling all over each other to gain a single place. Would you have to eliminate tennis doubles and only play singles matches? The plan when they were still discussing spring sports was if one was canceled they all were.
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Post by sportfan on May 9, 2020 9:11:22 GMT -5
Sounds like golf is the only sport that can be played safely.
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Post by ScottT on May 10, 2020 11:54:03 GMT -5
I've heard rumors that fall and spring sports will flip flop. Only water cooler talk so to speak. I personally haven't read anything. My biggest question is, how can you cut 300M in school funding and justify sports? No truth to that rumor.
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Post by usramfan on May 10, 2020 13:25:04 GMT -5
I've heard rumors that fall and spring sports will flip flop. Only water cooler talk so to speak. I personally haven't read anything. My biggest question is, how can you cut 300M in school funding and justify sports? No truth to that rumor. Though the OHSAA has stressed to its staff to think outside the box when it comes to finding solutions, this idea most definitely did not come from them. It is being thrown out there by a handful of ADs in NE Ohio.
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Post by jafo on May 10, 2020 14:31:20 GMT -5
Apparently, there is no truth to that rumor.
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Post by truecrimson on May 11, 2020 8:58:34 GMT -5
DeWine's cuts for some local schools/districts.
Bellevue $380,000 Buckeye Central $150,000 Colonel Crawford $150,000 Edison $280,000 Hopewell $150,000 Huron $340,000 Mansfield $560,000 Monroeville $110,000 Norwalk $450,000 Perkins $450,000 Plymouth $115,000 Sandusky $570,000 Seneca East $180,000 Shelby $290,000 South Central $125,000 Western Reserve $180,000 Willard $280,000 Vermilion $440,000
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 11, 2020 11:39:37 GMT -5
A better way to judge is % of funding lost. I can't speak for all listed, but for instance. The $560,000 Mansfield lost equated to approx. 1.5% of total funding. Ontario lost 7.5% of their funding. Per an article in the MNJ.
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Post by Green Falcon on May 11, 2020 12:28:34 GMT -5
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 11, 2020 15:21:50 GMT -5
That would be % of state money that was cut per district, not the % of the total funding of a district.
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Post by dude on May 12, 2020 8:35:21 GMT -5
Many schools have had less than 2% of their FY20 funding cut, but when you only look at the % of the money a school receives from the state it can be a much larger variance since not all schools are funded evenly by the state. Meaning, some schools get much more money from the state than others do.
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Post by truecrimson on May 12, 2020 10:15:33 GMT -5
Many schools have had less than 2% of their FY20 funding cut, but when you only look at the % of the money a school receives from the state it can be a much larger variance since not all schools are funded evenly by the state. Meaning, some schools get much more money from the state than others do. A school has to look at redundant operations. Trimming 2% can be done with very little pain if done the right way.
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Post by dude on May 12, 2020 11:56:13 GMT -5
Many schools have had less than 2% of their FY20 funding cut, but when you only look at the % of the money a school receives from the state it can be a much larger variance since not all schools are funded evenly by the state. Meaning, some schools get much more money from the state than others do. A school has to look at redundant operations. Trimming 2% can be done with very little pain if done the right way. When you consider this is a one year reduction, I think you could be correct. Plus considering that most schools will have a reserve of more than 2% this may not change many things a school offers to it's students.
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Post by truecrimson on May 12, 2020 12:02:30 GMT -5
A school has to look at redundant operations. Trimming 2% can be done with very little pain if done the right way. When you consider this is a one year reduction, I think you could be correct. Plus considering that most schools will have a reserve of more than 2% this may not change many things a school offers to it's students. Agree! Short term issue.
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Post by fbfan on May 12, 2020 12:18:24 GMT -5
How much money was saved by no school this spring? I know that staff was still paid in most cases. But no buses running for school or sports. Lights not needed turned off. Thermostats turned down a few degrees. No officials or umps to be paid. There are probably more savings that could have been done by a wise administration. Might not make up for 1-2% reduction, but there should be some money there.
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Post by dude on May 12, 2020 12:25:57 GMT -5
How much money was saved by no school this spring? I know that staff was still paid in most cases. But no buses running for school or sports. Lights not needed turned off. Thermostats turned down a few degrees. No officials or umps to be paid. There are probably more savings that could have been done by a wise administration. Might not make up for 1-2% reduction, but there should be some money there. Good point.
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Post by falcon87 on May 12, 2020 22:26:11 GMT -5
The cuts we are seeing will get the state through the end of this budget and the pain will be small. The pain begins in the next budget because you have to consider all the money that is being lost for the past 2 months with no guarantee the economy gets back to full strength anytime soon. Many school districts rely on a local income tax and need property owners to make the payment on property taxes. Not to be a Debbie Downer but the economy is going to negatively affect schools for a sustained period of time.
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Post by dude on May 13, 2020 10:38:06 GMT -5
The cuts we are seeing will get the state through the end of this budget and the pain will be small. The pain begins in the next budget because you have to consider all the money that is being lost for the past 2 months with no guarantee the economy gets back to full strength anytime soon. Many school districts rely on a local income tax and need property owners to make the payment on property taxes. Not to be a Debbie Downer but the economy is going to negatively affect schools for a sustained period of time. Sure some schools will be hit harder than others but over all the quality of education across the state should not be lost by closing bars and barbers shops for 2 months.
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Post by galion on May 18, 2020 19:24:59 GMT -5
There will be no football in the fall. Firstly, and most importantly, Our dear leader Amy Acton and by extension her mouthpiece DeWine will never allow it. I'd be shocked if they even allow kids in classrooms come August. Secondly, with a strict no contact policy until likely August, there can be no offseason programs to get the kids in physically prepared. Keep in mind this also applies to "student lead" workouts, although I'm sure that TC will ignore this one too. They won't even be allowed to open the school facilities for private workoputs and still haven't even opened private gyms yet for the kids with the means to afford them. No chance that the OHSAA allows a contact sport like football to happen under those conditions. IF they allow traditional school to start in the fall PERHAPS they allow non contact sports to happen but it is highly unlikely that you will see football or soccer.
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Post by clb6110 on May 18, 2020 20:30:17 GMT -5
Correct.. Nor should there be if we aren't a much improved place health wise.
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Post by dude on May 18, 2020 20:36:24 GMT -5
There will be no football in the fall. Firstly, and most importantly, Our dear leader Amy Acton and by extension her mouthpiece DeWine will never allow it. I'd be shocked if they even allow kids in classrooms come August. Secondly, with a strict no contact policy until likely August, there can be no offseason programs to get the kids in physically prepared. Keep in mind this also applies to "student lead" workouts, although I'm sure that TC will ignore this one too. They won't even be allowed to open the school facilities for private workoputs and still haven't even opened private gyms yet for the kids with the means to afford them. No chance that the OHSAA allows a contact sport like football to happen under those conditions. IF they allow traditional school to start in the fall PERHAPS they allow non contact sports to happen but it is highly unlikely that you will see football or soccer. In the amount of time it takes you for a single paragraph you start with " There will be no football in the fall" and then you end with " it is highly unlikely that you will see football". You are not even convinced of your own words. As of today, non-contact sports will begin play over two months before fall contact sports can begin. As we have already seen, a lot can change in two months.
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Post by areafan1 on May 18, 2020 22:10:49 GMT -5
I think outdoor school facilities may be open in a couple weeks and with gyms opening maybe schools gyms could open for lift weights also, June 1st. Cup half full.
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Post by Hummingbird on May 18, 2020 22:14:10 GMT -5
There will be no football in the fall. Firstly, and most importantly, Our dear leader Amy Acton and by extension her mouthpiece DeWine will never allow it. I'd be shocked if they even allow kids in classrooms come August. Secondly, with a strict no contact policy until likely August, there can be no offseason programs to get the kids in physically prepared. Keep in mind this also applies to "student lead" workouts, although I'm sure that TC will ignore this one too. They won't even be allowed to open the school facilities for private workoputs and still haven't even opened private gyms yet for the kids with the means to afford them. No chance that the OHSAA allows a contact sport like football to happen under those conditions. IF they allow traditional school to start in the fall PERHAPS they allow non contact sports to happen but it is highly unlikely that you will see football or soccer. TC- Tiffin Columbian?
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Post by galion on May 19, 2020 0:05:56 GMT -5
There will be no football in the fall. Firstly, and most importantly, Our dear leader Amy Acton and by extension her mouthpiece DeWine will never allow it. I'd be shocked if they even allow kids in classrooms come August. Secondly, with a strict no contact policy until likely August, there can be no offseason programs to get the kids in physically prepared. Keep in mind this also applies to "student lead" workouts, although I'm sure that TC will ignore this one too. They won't even be allowed to open the school facilities for private workoputs and still haven't even opened private gyms yet for the kids with the means to afford them. No chance that the OHSAA allows a contact sport like football to happen under those conditions. IF they allow traditional school to start in the fall PERHAPS they allow non contact sports to happen but it is highly unlikely that you will see football or soccer. In the amount of time it takes you for a single paragraph you start with " There will be no football in the fall" and then you end with " it is highly unlikely that you will see football". You are not even convinced of your own words. As of today, non-contact sports will begin play over two months before fall contact sports can begin. As we have already seen, a lot can change in two months. The only thing that has changed in 2 months is enough registered voters have finally seen the light and put enough pressure on our elected officials to begin to undo what should never have been done in the first place.
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Post by galion on May 19, 2020 0:06:52 GMT -5
There will be no football in the fall. Firstly, and most importantly, Our dear leader Amy Acton and by extension her mouthpiece DeWine will never allow it. I'd be shocked if they even allow kids in classrooms come August. Secondly, with a strict no contact policy until likely August, there can be no offseason programs to get the kids in physically prepared. Keep in mind this also applies to "student lead" workouts, although I'm sure that TC will ignore this one too. They won't even be allowed to open the school facilities for private workoputs and still haven't even opened private gyms yet for the kids with the means to afford them. No chance that the OHSAA allows a contact sport like football to happen under those conditions. IF they allow traditional school to start in the fall PERHAPS they allow non contact sports to happen but it is highly unlikely that you will see football or soccer. TC- Tiffin Columbian? Is there another TC that got caught red handed?
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Post by galion on May 19, 2020 0:15:56 GMT -5
Correct.. Nor should there be if we aren't a much improved place health wise. What? Give me a break. Are you really going to claim that it's too dangerous to open our schools back up? I'm tired of you hypocrites. It's too dangerous to educate the kids or god forbid let them step foot on a baseball diamond or run a race because it might spread covid. However, if you throw a work shirt or an apron on them it's perfectly fine to throw them on the front line of this thing and have them work in the essential businesses. By all means let them bag groceries and carry them out for any random person who walks into the store.
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Post by dude on May 19, 2020 7:18:03 GMT -5
In the amount of time it takes you for a single paragraph you start with " There will be no football in the fall" and then you end with " it is highly unlikely that you will see football". You are not even convinced of your own words. As of today, non-contact sports will begin play over two months before fall contact sports can begin. As we have already seen, a lot can change in two months. The only thing that has changed in 2 months is enough registered voters have finally seen the light and put enough pressure on our elected officials to begin to undo what should never have been done in the first place. Plus all the data that has been collected from confirmed cases and testing.
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Post by fbfan on May 19, 2020 10:10:50 GMT -5
There will be no football in the fall. Firstly, and most importantly, Our dear leader Amy Acton and by extension her mouthpiece DeWine will never allow it. I'd be shocked if they even allow kids in classrooms come August. Secondly, with a strict no contact policy until likely August, there can be no offseason programs to get the kids in physically prepared. Keep in mind this also applies to "student lead" workouts, although I'm sure that TC will ignore this one too. They won't even be allowed to open the school facilities for private workoputs and still haven't even opened private gyms yet for the kids with the means to afford them. No chance that the OHSAA allows a contact sport like football to happen under those conditions. IF they allow traditional school to start in the fall PERHAPS they allow non contact sports to happen but it is highly unlikely that you will see football or soccer. I happen to agree on this one with you. UNLESS the China Virus virtually disappears in the summer months and the social distancing recommendations are rescinded. In most high school locker rooms and buses it is physically impossible to maintain 6 feet between 30-60 players. How about a huddle on the field or a nose man and a center face to face? Sweaty arm to arm contact? A lot of other situations could be listed.
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Post by dude on May 19, 2020 10:54:35 GMT -5
Announced yesterday.
Lt. Gov. Jon Husted announces that they will begin coordinating with Jerry Snodgrass and OHSAA to develop protocols and guidelines for school-sanctioned sports and training to resume.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 19, 2020 10:58:29 GMT -5
It will be just as dangerous walking the halls in schools as playing football. Schools will have to hire dozens of "watchers" and "separators" stopping students from talking within 6 feet, holding hands, rubbing against each other and exchanging spit. No different than sweaty arm pits.
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Post by fbfan on May 19, 2020 11:01:46 GMT -5
Announced yesterday. Lt. Gov. Jon Husted announces that they will begin coordinating with Jerry Snodgrass and OHSAA to develop protocols and guidelines for school-sanctioned sports and training to resume. Do you think the penalty for grabbing a face mask will be increased?
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