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Post by Willard Fillmore on Apr 18, 2021 23:03:45 GMT -5
I heard last night the Head Coach from Cambridge High School applied. I'm guessing no Mark Rinehart interest? Or the other alumni who is coaching down near Columbus? If no alumni interested who understand the tradition, I'd think an experienced coach with success would be the best option, but with so many openings this year across the state that may be difficult to come by. Regardless, I'd prefer it to be someone who is in it for the long haul and not just a stop on their coaching ladder. Stability is so important but seems to be on the way out. That would be a good guess about Mark. The Ontario alum coaching in the Columbus area works for the State's Treasury Department. Not being a teacher and having a government job in Columbus eliminates his possibility.
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Post by dude on Apr 19, 2021 10:33:21 GMT -5
I heard last night the Head Coach from Cambridge High School applied. I'm guessing no Mark Rinehart interest? Or the other alumni who is coaching down near Columbus? If no alumni interested who understand the tradition, I'd think an experienced coach with success would be the best option, but with so many openings this year across the state that may be difficult to come by. Regardless, I'd prefer it to be someone who is in it for the long haul and not just a stop on their coaching ladder. Stability is so important but seems to be on the way out. Rinehart either did not apply or did not get an interview. Finding another person that may stick around for 30+ years is not likely. In today's coaching a 10 year stay is a very long time.
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Post by moacpops on Apr 19, 2021 12:23:32 GMT -5
I'm guessing no Mark Rinehart interest? Or the other alumni who is coaching down near Columbus? If no alumni interested who understand the tradition, I'd think an experienced coach with success would be the best option, but with so many openings this year across the state that may be difficult to come by. Regardless, I'd prefer it to be someone who is in it for the long haul and not just a stop on their coaching ladder. Stability is so important but seems to be on the way out. Rinehart either did not apply or did not get an interview. Finding another person that may stick around for 30+ years is not likely. In today's coaching a 10 year stay is a very long time. Any names on who is interviewing?
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Post by dude on Apr 19, 2021 12:54:01 GMT -5
Rinehart either did not apply or did not get an interview. Finding another person that may stick around for 30+ years is not likely. In today's coaching a 10 year stay is a very long time. Any names on who is interviewing? Rumor is that the Cambridge head coach ( Andy Slaughter 40-51 in four seasons) and Tim Mergel ( 79-128 in nine seasons) at Madison are two of them. Another rumor was that they only had 3-4 coaches that were getting interviews. Not sure of any of them but those two names were mentioned and the others were not.
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Post by bkjunkie on Apr 19, 2021 13:08:13 GMT -5
Andy Slaughter had two other stops: Two years at Crooksville (19-28) Two years at Sidney (26-22) Then four season at Cambridge (40-51) Total (87-101)
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Post by bkjunkie on Apr 19, 2021 13:11:20 GMT -5
...and 1 year at Chillicothe Southern (9-18)
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Post by bkjunkie on Apr 19, 2021 13:22:56 GMT -5
Andy is also related to Danny Slaughter who is a high school teacher at Ontario. The fact he resigned a week after the posting makes it seem like a done deal.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Apr 19, 2021 20:14:04 GMT -5
I'm guessing no Mark Rinehart interest? Or the other alumni who is coaching down near Columbus? If no alumni interested who understand the tradition, I'd think an experienced coach with success would be the best option, but with so many openings this year across the state that may be difficult to come by. Regardless, I'd prefer it to be someone who is in it for the long haul and not just a stop on their coaching ladder. Stability is so important but seems to be on the way out. Rinehart either did not apply or did not get an interview. Finding another person that may stick around for 30+ years is not likely. In today's coaching a 10 year stay is a very long time. If Mark applied he would have gotten a perfunctory interview and no one else would have been interviewed.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Apr 19, 2021 20:18:53 GMT -5
...and 1 year at Chillicothe Southern (9-18) I remember that year, the press wrote a lot about it. After going 4-18, his team made a 5 game tournament run, losing in the Regional Championship game.
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Post by wallacefan on Apr 19, 2021 20:51:39 GMT -5
Andy is also related to Danny Slaughter who is a high school teacher at Ontario. The fact he resigned a week after the posting makes it seem like a done deal. Well, Willy, are you OK with this hire? Is he friends with Fish or something? Record doesn't wow me, but I don't know much about those schools. Been around a lot, that's for sure...
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Apr 19, 2021 20:55:30 GMT -5
Andy Slaughter had two other stops: Two years at Crooksville (19-28) Two years at Sidney (26-22) Then four season at Cambridge (40-51) Total (87-101) He has taken over struggling programs and left them better than he found them, but he does appear not to stick around long enough to invest the time to take them to the next level. This year at Cambridge his team started the season 3-8 being quarantined 3 times. They finished the season 10-10 upsetting #2 seed Steubenville, before losing in the District Title game. Cambridge used to have 300 students in a class in their high school, they're down to 125. Not an open enrollment destination.
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Post by bkjunkie on Apr 20, 2021 8:03:26 GMT -5
Out of all four stops, Croocksville, Sidney, Chillicothe Southern and Cambridge, only one school has improved its level of performance. Sidney HS went (89-37) after his departure. The rest of the schools had minimal change in success before and after his short tenure.
He was quoted "Cambridge is a dream job" due to his relationship with HOF Coach Ford. I wonder if Ontario is his new "dream job"?
The reality is, if the administration (Fisher, Miller, Smith) respected and supported Joe B as much as the basketball fraternity does, he would still be coaching. Encouraging him to reach the milestone of 600 wins and continuing to impact the lives of young people. Richland County lost a good one, but maybe now Ontario will become a football school!
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Post by dude on Apr 20, 2021 12:25:00 GMT -5
The reality is, if the administration (Fisher, Miller, Smith) respected and supported Joe B as much as the basketball fraternity does, he would still be coaching. Encouraging him to reach the milestone of 600 wins and continuing to impact the lives of young people. Richland County lost a good one, but maybe now Ontario will become a football school! I believe this to be an untrue statement. In talking with others and Joe B himself, his "end game" has been in sight for years. If anything it was extended because of relationships and possibly even a league change.
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Post by edchambers on Apr 20, 2021 12:37:55 GMT -5
Andy Slaughter had two other stops: Two years at Crooksville (19-28) Two years at Sidney (26-22) Then four season at Cambridge (40-51) Total (87-101) He has taken over struggling programs and left them better than he found them, but he does appear not to stick around long enough to invest the time to take them to the next level. This year at Cambridge his team started the season 3-8 being quarantined 3 times. They finished the season 10-10 upsetting #2 seed Steubenville, before losing in the District Title game. Cambridge used to have 300 students in a class in their high school, they're down to 125. Not an open enrollment destination. Assume he would've stayed longer at Sidney if given the opportunity. John Willoughby ended up replacing him.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Apr 20, 2021 15:49:09 GMT -5
Andy is also related to Danny Slaughter who is a high school teacher at Ontario. The fact he resigned a week after the posting makes it seem like a done deal. Well, Willy, are you OK with this hire? Is he friends with Fish or something? Record doesn't wow me, but I don't know much about those schools. Been around a lot, that's for sure... No announcement as yet, but I'll be OK with whoever it is. I've been OK with every decision ever made. As far as I know, of those that applied none has a record that would "wow".
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Apr 20, 2021 16:06:58 GMT -5
The reality is, if the administration (Fisher, Miller, Smith) respected and supported Joe B as much as the basketball fraternity does, he would still be coaching. Encouraging him to reach the milestone of 600 wins and continuing to impact the lives of young people. Richland County lost a good one, but maybe now Ontario will become a football school! The actual reality is, if Joe wanted to coach until he was 80, Fisher, Miller and Smith would be ecstatic. Joe has always said that 600 wins was never on his bucket list. He told me 4 years ago when this class were Freshman, he would retire when they were Seniors.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Apr 20, 2021 16:09:03 GMT -5
The reality is, if the administration (Fisher, Miller, Smith) respected and supported Joe B as much as the basketball fraternity does, he would still be coaching. Encouraging him to reach the milestone of 600 wins and continuing to impact the lives of young people. Richland County lost a good one, but maybe now Ontario will become a football school! I believe this to be an untrue statement. In talking with others and Joe B himself, his "end game" has been in sight for years. If anything it was extended because of relationships and possibly even a league change. The number of years Joe coached had nothing to do with a league change or not a league change.
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Post by dude on Apr 20, 2021 22:06:10 GMT -5
Rumors floating are that it is a 3 man race with one man lagging far behind. There is a current college assistant coach in the mix, but he is very young. Slaughter has a good chance. Mergel is getting only courtesy attention I am being told.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Apr 20, 2021 22:47:18 GMT -5
He has taken over struggling programs and left them better than he found them, but he does appear not to stick around long enough to invest the time to take them to the next level. This year at Cambridge his team started the season 3-8 being quarantined 3 times. They finished the season 10-10 upsetting #2 seed Steubenville, before losing in the District Title game. Cambridge used to have 300 students in a class in their high school, they're down to 125. Not an open enrollment destination. Assume he would've stayed longer at Sidney if given the opportunity. John Willoughby ended up replacing him. He left Sidney to take the Cambridge job. Returning to the area he grew up in. He was 17-8 at Sidney that year, their first winning season in six years. Willoughby had a 30 year coaching record of 342-334 at DIV Houston in the Sidney area.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Apr 20, 2021 23:28:55 GMT -5
Rumors floating are that it is a 3 man race with one man lagging far behind. There is a current college assistant coach in the mix, but he is very young. Slaughter has a good chance. Mergel is getting only courtesy attention I am being told. Joe was 26 when he came to Ontario, with no head coaching experience.
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Post by ohioraised on Apr 21, 2021 6:19:46 GMT -5
He had 3-4 years of high school coach experience and was well known by the Ontario Super for all of those years.
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Post by fanofthegame on Apr 21, 2021 6:51:21 GMT -5
Correct me if I’m wrong, but not a single coach mentioned in this thread has a career winning record. Am I wrong? Nobody with a winning record applied?
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Post by dude on Apr 21, 2021 7:53:12 GMT -5
Correct me if I’m wrong, but not a single coach mentioned in this thread has a career winning record. Am I wrong? Nobody with a winning record applied? Does anyone truly know every single applicant? Of the names being rumored, you are correct. They either have losing records or they have no records behind them. I was also told the Slaughter coach has a son that would be a varsity player if hired. That could be an advantage since they have very little coming back.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Apr 21, 2021 8:59:17 GMT -5
He had 3-4 years of high school coach experience and was well known by the Ontario Super for all of those years. 3 years as a JV coach at a DIV school, thus no head coaching experience and minimal coaching experience. He was known by Rob Sheldon who when asked by Morris recommend Joe as the head coach.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Apr 21, 2021 9:00:31 GMT -5
Correct me if I’m wrong, but not a single coach mentioned in this thread has a career winning record. Am I wrong? Nobody with a winning record applied? Does anyone truly know every single applicant? Of the names being rumored, you are correct. They either have losing records or they have no records behind them. I was also told the Slaughter coach has a son that would be a varsity player if hired. That could be an advantage since they have very little coming back. He also has a younger son and daughter
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Post by ohioraised on Apr 21, 2021 9:23:24 GMT -5
He had 3-4 years of high school coach experience and was well known by the Ontario Super for all of those years. 3 years as a JV coach at a DIV school, thus no head coaching experience and minimal coaching experience. He was known by Rob Sheldon who when asked by Morris recommend Joe as the head coach. To be complete it was 3 jv years at a single A school and one varsity assistant yr at a AA school. They did not have divisions back then. Morris knew him already as they both came from the same district before Ontario. Morris was the one who got him to Ontario as an assistant.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Apr 21, 2021 10:30:14 GMT -5
Fort Loramie is currently a DIV school. Joe CAME to Ontario after 3 years as their JV coach. Joe will tell he got the head coaching position due to Sheldon's recommendation when Morris called him asking who in the area would make a good head coach. Sheldon told Morris he had a good guy for the job there at Ontario.
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Post by ohioraised on Apr 21, 2021 10:52:57 GMT -5
Morris would tell you he invited Joe to Ontario after he was upset he did not get the Fort Loramie head coach job.
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Post by edchambers on Apr 21, 2021 12:38:17 GMT -5
Assume he would've stayed longer at Sidney if given the opportunity. John Willoughby ended up replacing him. He left Sidney to take the Cambridge job. Returning to the area he grew up in. He was 17-8 at Sidney that year, their first winning season in six years. Willoughby had a 30 year coaching record of 342-334 at DIV Houston in the Sidney area. Went to Chillicothe Southeastern (where he won a district championship after a 5-17 regular season) for a season after stepping down at Sidney and then got the Cambridge job. Willoughby stepped down at Houston and when Slaughter stepped down to spend more time with his family, Willoughby got the job. At least on the surface, it appeared that he got a raw deal.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Apr 21, 2021 14:24:25 GMT -5
Morris would tell you he invited Joe to Ontario after he was upset he did not get the Fort Loramie head coach job. Joe would tell you, the Fort Loramie job opened after he had accepted the Ontario job.
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