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Post by jmorgret07 on Jul 6, 2020 20:05:26 GMT -5
Bob Goldring takes over as the interim executive director.
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Post by kingmartinez on Jul 6, 2020 20:43:54 GMT -5
Any legs to the rumor that Jerry couldn't get behind the fall spring sports flip that's being discussed thus that was the tipping point?
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Post by edchambers on Jul 6, 2020 20:45:26 GMT -5
Wasn't Jerry's decision to leave. I guess we'll know more in the next few days.
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Post by usramfan on Jul 6, 2020 23:37:13 GMT -5
Any legs to the rumor that Jerry couldn't get behind the fall spring sports flip that's being discussed thus that was the tipping point? He's on record as saying the flip isn't possible, but I'm not sure how much it had to do with his departure.
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Post by Green Falcon on Jul 7, 2020 6:12:26 GMT -5
I think it was more of his push that football WILL have fans in the stands which it's too early to say that. Also that not every football teams across the state can possibly play this season. I'm sure it is all connected to their financial status as well.
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Post by kingmartinez on Jul 7, 2020 6:52:26 GMT -5
Any legs to the rumor that Jerry couldn't get behind the fall spring sports flip that's being discussed thus that was the tipping point? He's on record as saying the flip isn't possible, but I'm not sure how much it had to do with his departure. I'd be curious why he says its not possible. "Not possible" in a time like this seems closed minded to me when there has been so many innovative adaptations during COVID. Other state high school organizations have kept this option on the table. I think the idea it's starting to pick up a lot of steam.
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Post by dude on Jul 7, 2020 7:12:23 GMT -5
He's on record as saying the flip isn't possible, but I'm not sure how much it had to do with his departure. I'd be curious why he says its not possible. "Not possible" in a time like this seems closed minded to me when there has been so many innovative adaptations during COVID. Other state high school organizations have kept this option on the table. I think the idea it's starting to pick up a lot of steam. Do many kids graduate early and enroll? Do many teams play out of state? What about multi sport kids? Would this be a single season or a permanent move? This would not be an easy flip. There are more tough obstacles to navigate than favorable reason for doing it.
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Post by Green Falcon on Jul 7, 2020 7:29:33 GMT -5
I'd be curious why he says its not possible. "Not possible" in a time like this seems closed minded to me when there has been so many innovative adaptations during COVID. Other state high school organizations have kept this option on the table. I think the idea it's starting to pick up a lot of steam. Do many kids graduate early and enroll? Do many teams play out of state? What about multi sport kids? Would this be a single season or a permanent move? This would not be an easy flip. There are more tough obstacles to navigate than favorable reason for doing it. I agree. Imagine being a baseball/softball/Track and Field/Tennis athlete and your season gets canceled last spring then again this fall. Think of how low the numbers for basketball and wrestling will be because athletes would rather train for football. The side effects of flipping seasons would be detrimental to participation across the board. The time to flip seasons has past, the ball has already started rolling.
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Post by usramfan on Jul 7, 2020 7:54:43 GMT -5
Do many kids graduate early and enroll? Do many teams play out of state? What about multi sport kids? Would this be a single season or a permanent move? This would not be an easy flip. There are more tough obstacles to navigate than favorable reason for doing it. I agree. Imagine being a baseball/softball/Track and Field/Tennis athlete and your season gets canceled last spring then again this fall. Think of how low the numbers for basketball and wrestling will be because athletes would rather train for football. The side effects of flipping seasons would be detrimental to participation across the board. The time to flip seasons has past, the ball has already started rolling. This is why it's not possible. If you made the flip, you'd be doing so because the implication would be that things aren't safe enough yet to play fall sports. Then you would be dumping spring sports into the same time period you have just said wasn't safe. Then those kids lose out on a season again. Jerry also mentioned the schedule. There are teams on the eastern side of the state that regularly play teams from PA and WV. If we move FB to the spring and those states don't, then what happens?
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Post by kingmartinez on Jul 7, 2020 10:19:56 GMT -5
It's certainly possible and from what I'm hearing this morning, it has some legs as a viable option. Hold on tight for the roller coaster!
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Post by maplecityjake on Jul 7, 2020 11:44:45 GMT -5
I agree. Imagine being a baseball/softball/Track and Field/Tennis athlete and your season gets canceled last spring then again this fall. Think of how low the numbers for basketball and wrestling will be because athletes would rather train for football. The side effects of flipping seasons would be detrimental to participation across the board. The time to flip seasons has past, the ball has already started rolling. This is why it's not possible. If you made the flip, you'd be doing so because the implication would be that things aren't safe enough yet to play fall sports. Then you would be dumping spring sports into the same time period you have just said wasn't safe. Then those kids lose out on a season again. Jerry also mentioned the schedule. There is Steubenville on the eastern side of the state that regularly play teams from PA and WV at Death Valley. If we move FB to the spring and those states don't, then what happens? fixed
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jul 7, 2020 13:09:47 GMT -5
Just play...kids that aren't athletes are swapping spit and other bodily fluids, but athletes can't play a sport??
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Post by areafan1 on Jul 7, 2020 13:19:08 GMT -5
Probally 40% or more of baseball and softball players are playing right now and track would be even easier to play. So I don't think switching spring to fall is the problem. The problem is fall to spring. If you have 10 games and 5 weeks of playoff, and you have the state finals on June 10,11,12 as that was the state baseball finals. You count 15 weeks back it would be you playing game 1 on March 5th. 3 week at least practice would start on February 12th. That's the problem. So could you start the winter season the first of November for games/matches and state finals before February? I don't think so.
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Post by dude on Jul 7, 2020 13:43:03 GMT -5
OHSAA Board President was interviewed today and commented that they have not had one discussion at a meeting about switching fall and springs seasons.
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Post by unc4life on Jul 7, 2020 13:46:12 GMT -5
Well you can forget football in Ohio. Gov. Just announced that in order for contact sports to be played all players coaches and staff must be tested before every game. Zero chance that can happen.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jul 7, 2020 15:20:15 GMT -5
Why not. A new test will be coming out soon where 10 people are tested and the swabs are sent to a lab and tested as a group. If the group tests positive then each individual test in that group is then tested individually. A lot cheaper and quicker
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Post by kingmartinez on Jul 7, 2020 15:25:42 GMT -5
Well you can forget football in Ohio. Gov. Just announced that in order for contact sports to be played all players coaches and staff must be tested before every game. Zero chance that can happen. He said that would be a part of the will trial period for contact sports until July 15th then they will evaluate the data. There was no mentioned that this was required moving forward to play contact sports.
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Post by edchambers on Jul 7, 2020 16:33:27 GMT -5
Interesting article by Steve Blackledge on dispatch.com about the firing/resignation.
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Post by usramfan on Jul 7, 2020 16:35:28 GMT -5
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Post by dude on Jul 7, 2020 18:53:39 GMT -5
Well you can forget football in Ohio. Gov. Just announced that in order for contact sports to be played all players coaches and staff must be tested before every game. Zero chance that can happen. I'm sure you know the order you are speaking of is only in affect until July 15.
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Post by dude on Jul 7, 2020 19:00:42 GMT -5
Well you can forget football in Ohio. Gov. Just announced that in order for contact sports to be played all players coaches and staff must be tested before every game. Zero chance that can happen. He said that would be a part of the will trial period for contact sports until July 15th then they will evaluate the data. There was no mentioned that this was required moving forward to play contact sports. Is there any coincidence that it is being rumored that a basketball family that runs a large sports camp facility filed a lawsuit to be allowed to hold their basketball camps and this new order for testing before play lasts just long enough to disrupt those camps.
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Post by kingmartinez on Jul 7, 2020 19:12:15 GMT -5
He said that would be a part of the will trial period for contact sports until July 15th then they will evaluate the data. There was no mentioned that this was required moving forward to play contact sports. Is there any coincidence that it is being rumored that a basketball family that runs a large sports camp facility filed a lawsuit to be allowed to hold their basketball camps and this new order for testing before play lasts just long enough to disrupt those camps. Non-scholastic sports are always about one main thing - the Benjamin's.
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Post by dude on Jul 7, 2020 19:32:48 GMT -5
Is there any coincidence that it is being rumored that a basketball family that runs a large sports camp facility filed a lawsuit to be allowed to hold their basketball camps and this new order for testing before play lasts just long enough to disrupt those camps. Non-scholastic sports are always about one main thing - the Benjamin's. Maybe they could apply for a small business protection loan.
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Post by unc4life on Jul 7, 2020 20:53:10 GMT -5
Well you can forget football in Ohio. Gov. Just announced that in order for contact sports to be played all players coaches and staff must be tested before every game. Zero chance that can happen. I'm sure you know the order you are speaking of is only in affect until July 15. And I’m sure you know that DeWine likes to put dates out there to play people along and then renew the order for months on end. If you think that will end July 15th your not paying attention.
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Post by dude on Jul 7, 2020 20:59:24 GMT -5
I'm sure you know the order you are speaking of is only in affect until July 15. And I’m sure you know that DeWine likes to put dates out there to play people along and then renew the order for months on end. If you think that will end July 15th your not paying attention. I do not know if I have not seen any orders renewed for months on end. I have seen some modified and adjusted and then extended. I do believe that order will end on July 15. There may be another in it's place by then but that order will expire.
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Post by richrod on Jul 7, 2020 21:15:33 GMT -5
well this outta play out interestingly.
there will be an 11th hour decision and it most likely won't be good.
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Post by Green Falcon on Jul 8, 2020 6:30:15 GMT -5
well this outta play out interestingly. there will be an 11th hour decision and it most likely won't be good. Same thoughts here. In the article they said they were doing a national search. We don't want a national search. A national candidate won't put Ohio first nor will they be in it for the long haul. They'll shake things up and leave a mess.
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Post by dude on Jul 8, 2020 7:05:56 GMT -5
well this outta play out interestingly. there will be an 11th hour decision and it most likely won't be good. Same thoughts here. In the article they said they were doing a national search. We don't want a national search. A national candidate won't put Ohio first nor will they be in it for the long haul. They'll shake things up and leave a mess. Well it has become very obvious it really does not matter what the candidate would want since we were just shown that if it's not what the board wants they'll be fired.
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Post by sweathog on Jul 8, 2020 11:47:13 GMT -5
Go Back to School Play sports like normal. Tell DeWine stick it where the sun don't shine!!!
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Post by maplecityjake on Jul 8, 2020 13:53:52 GMT -5
Go Back to School Play sports like normal. Tell DeWine stick it where the sun don't shine!!! Columbus is awaiting on Line 3.
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