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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Sept 27, 2020 18:22:35 GMT -5
Here it is, the highly anticipated matchup.
Willard won it 26-14 last year.
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Post by sbc95 on Sept 27, 2020 20:46:59 GMT -5
Willard lost to CLYDE EDISON HURON PORT CLINTON OAK HARBOR
They will win this one Willard 21 Vermillion 6
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Post by maplecityjake on Sept 27, 2020 21:18:54 GMT -5
Willard lost to CLYDE EDISON HURON PORT CLINTON OAK HARBOR They will win this one Willard 21 Vermillion 6 Why am I confused with this?
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Post by tonyperkis on Sept 28, 2020 10:26:27 GMT -5
sailors will win. willard ball is orange and round now. their fans are trying to adopt kids so they can get into the basketball arena
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Post by crimson5 on Sept 28, 2020 16:32:03 GMT -5
sailors will win. willard ball is orange and round now. their fans are trying to adopt kids so they can get into the basketball arena You got someone in mind Tony? My daughter left for college, I have an empty bedroom.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Sept 30, 2020 9:22:32 GMT -5
calpreps.com: Vermilion 28 Willard 26 Houseworth's: Vermilion by 6
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Post by crimson5 on Oct 2, 2020 2:19:53 GMT -5
Radio?
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Oct 2, 2020 6:48:22 GMT -5
^ looks like that's a no
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Post by smitty1974 on Oct 2, 2020 9:13:42 GMT -5
and more than likely no newspaper coverage as well.
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Post by jmorgret07 on Oct 2, 2020 9:16:09 GMT -5
I know your hearts, but a 0-5 vs. 0-5 is going to be at the bottom of the list in priority. Dan Woodlock from the Willard T-J will be there, but when there's league titles on the line and 5-0 vs. 4-1 games, they're going to be higher. I understand the thought, but that's just the way it is.
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Post by richrod on Oct 2, 2020 9:53:55 GMT -5
I've been waiting for this one.
I think it has the making of a good close ball game.
My gut says Willard by a score. And I'm sticking with it.
Battle to stay outta the basement round 2
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Post by ScarletFever on Oct 2, 2020 19:22:01 GMT -5
Willard is getting boat raced by winless over the last two seasons Vermilion.
The running clock is out 44 to 6
Rock bottom.
A damn drugstore parody account on this site nailed every prediction about this program over the past five years better than any of the rest of us have. Including me.
Parents and players busting your as$ and going through these tough seasons, thank you for everything I wish things were better.
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Post by sportsjunky on Oct 2, 2020 19:31:57 GMT -5
If this is true.....I’m sorry but the coaching staff needs fired
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Post by ScarletFever on Oct 2, 2020 20:03:00 GMT -5
50-18 3q I’m hearing
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Post by ScarletFever on Oct 2, 2020 20:20:42 GMT -5
50-24 F flashes add a late TD vs Vermilions JVs
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Post by ScarletFever on Oct 2, 2020 20:22:04 GMT -5
If this is true.....I’m sorry but the coaching staff needs fired And hire who? Nobody wants to coach here. Point of no return was a few years ago.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 2, 2020 21:07:06 GMT -5
Willard MUST get into the River Division for football to have a shot at turning this around.
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Post by bat21 on Oct 2, 2020 21:27:09 GMT -5
I’m starting to believe Drugmart at this point ...
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Post by sportsjunky on Oct 2, 2020 21:48:51 GMT -5
If this is true.....I’m sorry but the coaching staff needs fired And hire who? Nobody wants to coach here. Point of no return was a few years ago. When the current head coach was hired, was he the only one that applied? He might be a nice guy, but from what I have seen and have heard he is way over is head... that’s just my opinion.,., could totally wrong What ever the coaching staff is doing...nothing is working Obviously the Administration doesn’t know anything as well
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Post by jmorgret07 on Oct 2, 2020 21:54:41 GMT -5
Willard MUST get into the River Division for football to have a shot at turning this around. This is accurate, but I'm not even sure this would have helped this year. H-L and Calvert put a running clock on Willard. Gibsonburg and Lakota beat Willard. I think Margaretta beats Willard, but Willard would have gotten a win against SJCC.
In general, yes. This year, it probably doesn't help.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 2, 2020 22:00:32 GMT -5
Willard MUST get into the River Division for football to have a shot at turning this around. This is accurate, but I'm not even sure this would have helped this year. H-L and Calvert put a running clock on Willard. Gibsonburg and Lakota beat Willard. I think Margaretta beats Willard, but Willard would have gotten a win against SJCC.
In general, yes. This year, it probably doesn't help.
Obviously in the future. Winning a game or two in a season with a few closer loses can do wonders when trying to build something.
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Post by ScarletFever on Oct 2, 2020 22:02:19 GMT -5
And hire who? Nobody wants to coach here. Point of no return was a few years ago. When the current head coach was hired, was he the only one that applied? He might be a nice guy, but from what I have seen and have heard he is way over is head... that’s just my opinion.,., could totally wrong What ever the coaching staff is doing...nothing is working Obviously the Administration doesn’t know anything as well Previous coaching choice was the wrong one, then that coach bolted in spring and gave Willard very little time to put together a search. Candidates dropped out, and we ended up scrambling to where we are now. Trains off the tracks.
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Post by DrugMart on Oct 3, 2020 6:17:55 GMT -5
Willard faithful do you finally agree to never field a football team again? We the top brass of Willard have diligently and cunningly dismantled the football program, buried it and left it in an unmarked grave. You all keep digging it up each year though, do you finally submit? We the top brass of Willard noticed a demographics shift to more and more Hispanics (30% of the student population now) and knew Soccer was the answer. We took notice of this but knew the Willard Faithful loved their football. We knew the only option was to sabotage the program. Hawkins made the playoffs in 99, 01 & 02 and we had to figure out a way to fire him, the fans would not let us fire him for no reason so we snitched on him to the OHSAA. That opened the door for us to suspend him for a game as a penalty for being a bad boy. Then we used his suspension as a reason to fire him as the coach. I hope you all noticed we kept him on as a teacher, that was a super cunning strategy. 1) that let all new hires know each day what we do to winning football coaches. 2) With Hawkins still walking the halls at WHS it made all subsequent coaching hires have to look over their shoulder and wonder if Hawkins was leaking info to opposing teams. Diabolical. Who leaked the game plan? I don't know...
For you Todd Fox fanboys, yes Todd Fox kept applying for the job, but he's not the top brass of Willard so he didn't know he had no shot, we don't want good football coaches. So long Toddy boy. We the top brass of Willard really thought paying some scientists at the Wuhan lab to create and release a virus would finally end this football debacle. But no, you guys kept sticking it out there to get slaughtered. Fair warning in 2021 - an alien invasion is still on the table. You don't want to go there. Just stop with the football because we still have time to call off the invasion. We need to leave the football players no choice but to join the Soccer program. We the top brass of Willard see all the possibilities of a fully backed Soccer program. No school our size in Ohio has disbanded the football program and gone solely with the Soccer program, we'd be innovators like Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and Jeff Bezos. When you are the innovator you are the dominator. We would rack up 10+ State Titles IN A ROW before any other school could sabotage their football program and copy us. But we'd already be getting all the recruits move ins to play Soccer so we'd still have a leg up.
Soccer is the best Soccer is where it's at Soccer makes dreams come true Soccer makes people happy Soccer is a World Sport Soccer can stop an alien invasion
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Post by fanofthegame on Oct 3, 2020 6:59:06 GMT -5
It can be turned around.
Shelby school board at the time brought up some drummed up charges against a good coach (Solis) and non-renewed him.
The situation set them up so that nobody wanted the job. As a result we got an inexperienced coach who was in over his head. He ruined Shelby football for a few years.
Admittedly there was a perfect storm. We were able to hire a coaching improvement at the same time we had a D1 QB and some pretty decent supporting cast. Now look. The playoffs have been a pretty regular thing.
Shout out to the kids. They put in the same time as players who are winning games. They are nursing the same injuries and still getting up and going to school, practicing, watching film. Hats off to them. It’s not their fault they’re putting in the effort, but it’s not getting pointed in the right direction. I saw it because my boys played during the Shelby dark ages. I watched them come home frustrated on Friday nights. I’m just thankful mine got a chance to be successful at the college level to wash the bad taste out of their mouths.
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Post by sportsjunky on Oct 3, 2020 7:42:49 GMT -5
Willard faithful do you finally agree to never field a football team again? We the top brass of Willard have diligently and cunningly dismantled the football program, buried it and left it in an unmarked grave. You all keep digging it up each year though, do you finally submit? We the top brass of Willard noticed a demographics shift to more and more Hispanics (30% of the student population now) and knew Soccer was the answer. We took notice of this but knew the Willard Faithful loved their football. We knew the only option was to sabotage the program. Hawkins made the playoffs in 99, 01 & 02 and we had to figure out a way to fire him, the fans would not let us fire him for no reason so we snitched on him to the OHSAA. That opened the door for us to suspend him for a game as a penalty for being a bad boy. Then we used his suspension as a reason to fire him as the coach. I hope you all noticed we kept him on as a teacher, that was a super cunning strategy. 1) that let all new hires know each day what we do to winning football coaches. 2) With Hawkins still walking the halls at WHS it made all subsequent coaching hires have to look over their shoulder and wonder if Hawkins was leaking info to opposing teams. Diabolical. Who leaked the game plan? I don't know...
For you Todd Fox fanboys, yes Todd Fox kept applying for the job, but he's not the top brass of Willard so he didn't know he had no shot, we don't want good football coaches. So long Toddy boy. We the top brass of Willard really thought paying some scientists at the Wuhan lab to create and release a virus would finally end this football debacle. But no, you guys kept sticking it out there to get slaughtered. Fair warning in 2021 - an alien invasion is still on the table. You don't want to go there. Just stop with the football because we still have time to call off the invasion. We need to leave the football players no choice but to join the Soccer program. We the top brass of Willard see all the possibilities of a fully backed Soccer program. No school our size in Ohio has disbanded the football program and gone solely with the Soccer program, we'd be innovators like Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and Jeff Bezos. When you are the innovator you are the dominator. We would rack up 10+ State Titles IN A ROW before any other school could sabotage their football program and copy us. But we'd already be getting all the recruits move ins to play Soccer so we'd still have a leg up.
Soccer is the best Soccer is where it's at Soccer makes dreams come true Soccer makes people happy Soccer is a World Sport Soccer can stop an alien invasion
Who are these” top brass” people? I personally would like to know. It is possible to have a good solid program in any sport and all sports. I’m glad the Soccer program is doing well. Drugmart who are you and why do you always put down the football program....you are a loser
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Post by dude on Oct 3, 2020 7:50:28 GMT -5
fog, Some may tell you that the opportunity to coach a potential D1 QB and a decent supporting cast attracted a good coach. This is not the case everywhere, even Willard. Successfully coaching football is not a one man job. From what I have seen across the board football comes down to the kids. Oh I agree a coach can can go 1-9 and the next season a new coach can go 5-5. I'm not saying coaching doesn't matter but kids are the main reason in football. Other sports can change with a single player but football needs a crew to have success. Changing head coaches for some schools does not change the result. I don't know how many coaches Willard had has in the last 21 seasons.
2020 - 0-6 2019 - 1-9 2018 - 5-5 2017 - 3-7 2016 - 1-9 2015 - 1-9 2014 - 0-10 2013 - 1-9 2012 - 4-6 2011 - 2-8 2010 - 5-5 2009 - 3-7 2008 - 2-8 2007 - 2-8 2006 - 3-7 2005 - 6-4 2004 - 3-7 2003 - 6-4 2002 - 9-1 2001 - 7-3 2000 - 4-6
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Post by fanofthegame on Oct 3, 2020 8:03:45 GMT -5
I respectfully disagree. Kids need inspired. Kids need motivated. Kids need led. Your suggestion is that the kids in Willard are either genetically not made for football or there is something in the water that makes them inferior football players. They have the same kids every other similarly sized school district has. They just need someone who can convince as many as possible to go out, prepare them in the weight room, and teach them how to play the game.
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Post by smitty1974 on Oct 3, 2020 8:07:17 GMT -5
drugmart,if you want to talk about soccer than go the the room under fall sports whi sch includes soccer,if you hate willard football or football in general then stop being off topic and leave the football room and dont let the door hit you in the rear when you leave.we dont talk football in the fall sports room soccer.
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Post by crimson5 on Oct 3, 2020 8:09:50 GMT -5
fog, Some may tell you that the opportunity to coach a potential D1 QB and a decent supporting cast attracted a good coach. This is not the case everywhere, even Willard. Successfully coaching football is not a one man job. From what I have seen across the board football comes down to the kids. Oh I agree a coach can can go 1-9 and the next season a new coach can go 5-5. I'm not saying coaching doesn't matter but kids are the main reason in football. Other sports can change with a single player but football needs a crew to have success. Changing head coaches for some schools does not change the result. I don't know how many coaches Willard had has in the last 21 seasons. 2020 - 0-6 2019 - 1-9 2018 - 5-5 2017 - 3-7 2016 - 1-9 2015 - 1-9 2014 - 0-10 2013 - 1-9 2012 - 4-6 2011 - 2-8 2010 - 5-5 2009 - 3-7 2008 - 2-8 2007 - 2-8 2006 - 3-7 2005 - 6-4 2004 - 3-7 2003 - 6-4 2002 - 9-1 2001 - 7-3 2000 - 4-6 Any good coach will tell you..."athletes win games, not coaches". I agree with that on the college and professional levels. But on the high school level, the coaches are a much bigger influence on the outcome of the game / program. Mainly because high school athletes are much more impressionable than older athletes. Meaning, younger athletes look for guidance, positive reinforcement, teaching fundamentals, explanations, etc. They also need boundaries set, discipline, roll models, etc....where older athletes tend to already have alot of these things ingrained in them. Plain and simple, these kids do not respect most of these coaches. My wife made a funny analogy on the way home last night from Vermilion. The more I think about it, the more it rings true. She said, "no football coach should be walking the sidelines wearing a pair of skinny jeans". I know, its really a superficial statement.....but is it really?
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Post by tchldad on Oct 3, 2020 8:20:12 GMT -5
fog, Some may tell you that the opportunity to coach a potential D1 QB and a decent supporting cast attracted a good coach. This is not the case everywhere, even Willard. Successfully coaching football is not a one man job. From what I have seen across the board football comes down to the kids. Oh I agree a coach can can go 1-9 and the next season a new coach can go 5-5. I'm not saying coaching doesn't matter but kids are the main reason in football. Other sports can change with a single player but football needs a crew to have success. Changing head coaches for some schools does not change the result. I don't know how many coaches Willard had has in the last 21 seasons. 2020 - 0-6 2019 - 1-9 2018 - 5-5 2017 - 3-7 2016 - 1-9 2015 - 1-9 2014 - 0-10 2013 - 1-9 2012 - 4-6 2011 - 2-8 2010 - 5-5 2009 - 3-7 2008 - 2-8 2007 - 2-8 2006 - 3-7 2005 - 6-4 2004 - 3-7 2003 - 6-4 2002 - 9-1 2001 - 7-3 2000 - 4-6 Any good coach will tell you..."athletes win games, not coaches". I agree with that on the college and professional levels. But on the high school level, the coaches are a much bigger influence on the outcome of the game / program. Mainly because high school athletes are much more impressionable than older athletes. Meaning, younger athletes look for guidance, positive reinforcement, teaching fundamentals, explanations, etc. They also need boundaries set, discipline, roll models, etc....where older athletes tend to already have alot of these things ingrained in them. Plain and simple, these kids do not respect most of these coaches. My wife made a funny analogy on the way home last night from Vermilion. The more I think about it, the more it rings true. She said, "no football coach should be walking the sidelines wearing a pair of skinny jeans". I know, its really a superficial statement.....but is it really? now that is funny. I totally agree with her. Skinny jeans and toughness? Not a good pair. Good luck to Willard and righting this ship.
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