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Post by galion on Sept 21, 2016 3:59:33 GMT -5
We've actually had a very nice run of athletes girls wise for the last several years. We've also had some talented boys come through the pipeline as well. Coach Roston has really done some special things with the track program since he's taken it over, particularly with our relay teams.
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Post by galion on Sept 21, 2016 4:14:42 GMT -5
Trying to equate of the skill and physical development levels of our reserves to an actual football program like JA is akin to comparing the rosters of OSU and Capital. Go ahead, line your son and his buddies up against JA's starters and see if we even have enough players left next week to field a team against Fairbanks. That being said I have no problem pulling our starters when another team pulls theirs, but I don't believe that was what our original conversation was about. Back in '85 we had a jv team that by itself could have probably placed 3rd or 4th in our conference. That is what you're dealing with here. Sheesh, it was just a light-hearted jab , however, let's be realistic here. JA is a program that pulls players who reside in it's district area just like we do. We are still just talking about 16-18 year old rural kids here. Comparing OSU and Capital are entirely another story because of recruiting advantages, money, facilities, etc. Those advantages exist in high school as well(no I'm not accusing JA of recruiting). It's no secret that Galion has shrunk/is shinking population wise. We lost the industry that employed many of those families from back in the '80's. Consequently, many of the players on that team moved away from Galion to find jobs. There are a number of them who have produced all-state/all-conference offspring. Unfortunately, none of them played here. When a town shrinks it's not about the population you lose necessarily as much as it's about which families you lose. It's hard to start or maintain a tradition of excellence with kids whose parents never experienced it. Many of them just don't understand the sacrifices involved. Last I heard around 70% of our students qualified for the free and reduced lunch program. I don't think that JA can say that. Like it or not there is a financial component to our situation as well. That's why our band is so small. Musical instruments are expensive.
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Post by moacfootballfan on Sept 21, 2016 9:10:45 GMT -5
I absolutely agree with some of what you say and I could elaborate if I got deeper into some of the other aspects of your comment, but at the risk of being offensive in the PC world we live in, I'll refrain. But just to allude to it. JA is a larger rural district. Galion is a city district with a smaller rural reach around it. There are just some differences in the type of kids/families who are raised in each. Galion seems to be becoming a haven for transient renters/heroin users and the families want to leave because Galion has little to offer except some window dressing projects championed by the city administration. In the rural district and even in a small town like plain city, there is not as much of that element. If anyone recruits, it Galion Just kidding.
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Post by deathfromabove on Sept 21, 2016 9:26:50 GMT -5
I believe the last team from the area to win a state football title was in 2009 with Norwalk St. Paul's winning it. They had a group of seniors that made sure that everyone on the team was on the same page all the way through the season.
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Post by GHS 1999 on Sept 21, 2016 11:41:52 GMT -5
I absolutely agree with some of what you say and I could elaborate if I got deeper into some of the other aspects of your comment, but at the risk of being offensive in the PC world we live in, I'll refrain. But just to allude to it. JA is a larger rural district. Galion is a city district with a smaller rural reach around it. There are just some differences in the type of kids/families who are raised in each. Galion seems to be becoming a haven for transient renters/heroin users and the families want to leave because Galion has little to offer except some window dressing projects championed by the city administration. In the rural district and even in a small town like plain city, there is not as much of that element. If anyone recruits, it Galion Just kidding. It should also be noted that geography plays a role in the differences between Jonathan Alder and Galion. JA is right outside of the 270 belt and my guess is lots of people who live in the district commute to Columbus for their jobs. Galion does not have nearly the employment opportunities within a similar distance. So a lot of the great athletic families from a generation or two ago have moved. JA would stand a much better chance of that not happening as much.
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Post by galion on Sept 21, 2016 17:43:35 GMT -5
I believe the last team from the area to win a state football title was in 2009 with Norwalk St. Paul's winning it. They had a group of seniors that made sure that everyone on the team was on the same page all the way through the season. Yes this is true. A D6/7 school who gets to recruit from a D1 population base. The mystery is why they don't win it every year.
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Post by moacfootballfan on Sept 21, 2016 21:18:46 GMT -5
I absolutely agree with some of what you say and I could elaborate if I got deeper into some of the other aspects of your comment, but at the risk of being offensive in the PC world we live in, I'll refrain. But just to allude to it. JA is a larger rural district. Galion is a city district with a smaller rural reach around it. There are just some differences in the type of kids/families who are raised in each. Galion seems to be becoming a haven for transient renters/heroin users and the families want to leave because Galion has little to offer except some window dressing projects championed by the city administration. In the rural district and even in a small town like plain city, there is not as much of that element. If anyone recruits, it Galion Just kidding. It should also be noted that geography plays a role in the differences between Jonathan Alder and Galion. JA is right outside of the 270 belt and my guess is lots of people who live in the district commute to Columbus for their jobs. Galion does not have nearly the employment opportunities within a similar distance. So a lot of the great athletic families from a generation or two ago have moved. JA would stand a much better chance of that not happening as much. That being said, people in Galion have the same opportunities to work in greater Columbus. It's just easier to sit on the couch and complain that there are no jobs. Heck, I live in Galion and my office is in central Columbus. But I understand and will concede that those same people might (rightfully so) choose to move closer once they get a job down there.
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Post by galiontiger on Sept 22, 2016 1:31:58 GMT -5
I'd move to Columbus if I had the chance too. In fact, I've kicked the idea around now for the last few months. But mine would be for lesser honorable reasons, way more hotter women in Columbus than Galion. LOL Even an ugly guy like me might be able to find some blind woman down there. There's more of them down there, I got better odds. LOL Honestly there's just more opportunities for a single guy to find things to do for fun. The only reason I'm just taking my a** back to Wooster next July is: 1...I own a decent home over there right outside of the city on the northend. Plus next year, my job hours will become fixed...04300 to 1:30 PM every day..off on Fridays (for football or basketball for my youngest son coming up) Saturdays (0300 to 1200 - GOD! I hate working Saturdays.)
So I can understand the attractiveness of a Columbus, believe me if I thought I could make the move next July I'd probably take it. I still might see whats available with what's jobs are available down there. Thank goodness! I got a job where I can transfer, but I doubt I could find those hours. I like them too. I don't mind getting up early.
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Post by GHS 1999 on Sept 22, 2016 7:39:22 GMT -5
It should also be noted that geography plays a role in the differences between Jonathan Alder and Galion. JA is right outside of the 270 belt and my guess is lots of people who live in the district commute to Columbus for their jobs. Galion does not have nearly the employment opportunities within a similar distance. So a lot of the great athletic families from a generation or two ago have moved. JA would stand a much better chance of that not happening as much. That being said, people in Galion have the same opportunities to work in greater Columbus. Â It's just easier to sit on the couch and complain that there are no jobs. Â Heck, I live in Galion and my office is in central Columbus. Â But I understand and will concede that those same people might (rightfully so) choose to move closer once they get a job down there. There are a lot of people in town who do the same thing you do. I consider myself extremely fortunate that I am specialized in my occupation so I get to work here in town. My point was simply that a lot of the great athletes from generations past have left the area for better jobs and raised their kids elsewhere. Jonathan Alder being much more geographically closer to Columbus stands a much better chance of keeping their athletically gifted families. I on the other hand absolutely love living here because it is home and would never leave.
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Post by moacfootballfan on Sept 22, 2016 10:14:17 GMT -5
I'd move to Columbus if I had the chance too. In fact, I've kicked the idea around now for the last few months. But mine would be for lesser honorable reasons, way more hotter women in Columbus than Galion. LOL Even an ugly guy like me might be able to find some blind woman down there. There's more of them down there, I got better odds. LOL Honestly there's just more opportunities for a single guy to find things to do for fun. The only reason I'm just taking my a** back to Wooster next July is: 1...I own a decent home over there right outside of the city on the northend. Plus next year, my job hours will become fixed...04300 to 1:30 PM every day..off on Fridays (for football or basketball for my youngest son coming up) Saturdays (0300 to 1200 - GOD! I hate working Saturdays.) So I can understand the attractiveness of a Columbus, believe me if I thought I could make the move next July I'd probably take it. I still might see whats available with what's jobs are available down there. Thank goodness! I got a job where I can transfer, but I doubt I could find those hours. I like them too. I don't mind getting up early. I wouldn't I am definitely not a city dweller. I would never want to live in an area that populous with property taxes like that. I don't particularly enjoy living in Galion sometimes as well (Income Tax time, Utility bill time). I just need my space and my privacy. Puts me at peace. But, my children have grown up in Galion. When my son graduates, I will move outside of town in the country, maybe catch some football games from time to time. But will enjoy not running kids from practice and going to multiple games every weekend during football season. I can't imagine the running around you are doing when you talk about your work schedule, your son's camps, and of course his football games/practices. There is clearly no doubt that you have made some sacrifices for your son
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Post by deathfromabove on Sept 22, 2016 12:38:35 GMT -5
Galion, just to let you know that my oldest son was a senior on that championship team and I used to coach them in the lower levels and I can tell you that everyone on that team went through St. Paul's schools from pre-3 on up. So that remark about recruiting has no basics to be true. Also along with Norwalk St. Paul's there is Sandusky St. Mary's, Fremont St. Joe's, Tiffin Calvert and Elyria Catholic. Except in Elyria and Lorain there are NO D-1 schools in the area.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 22, 2016 13:29:14 GMT -5
I know there're a lot of people who live in the 30/309 corridor from Marion to Wooster and south that commute to Columbus to work, preferring to live in a smaller town. I don't know which would be worse. Fighting the traffic everyday all day in short trips or just fighting it coming and going on one hour trips 5 days a week. IMO, one is more likely to be killed or seriously injured commuting than living and working there.
BTW, some population experts are predicting that by 2050 Columbus will have a population of 3 Million.
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Post by galiontiger on Sept 22, 2016 16:34:06 GMT -5
I'd move to Columbus if I had the chance too. In fact, I've kicked the idea around now for the last few months. But mine would be for lesser honorable reasons, way more hotter women in Columbus than Galion. LOL Even an ugly guy like me might be able to find some blind woman down there. There's more of them down there, I got better odds. LOL Honestly there's just more opportunities for a single guy to find things to do for fun. The only reason I'm just taking my a** back to Wooster next July is: 1...I own a decent home over there right outside of the city on the northend. Plus next year, my job hours will become fixed...04300 to 1:30 PM every day..off on Fridays (for football or basketball for my youngest son coming up) Saturdays (0300 to 1200 - GOD! I hate working Saturdays.) So I can understand the attractiveness of a Columbus, believe me if I thought I could make the move next July I'd probably take it. I still might see whats available with what's jobs are available down there. Thank goodness! I got a job where I can transfer, but I doubt I could find those hours. I like them too. I don't mind getting up early. I wouldn't I am definitely not a city dweller. I would never want to live in an area that populous with property taxes like that. I don't particularly enjoy living in Galion sometimes as well (Income Tax time, Utility bill time). I just need my space and my privacy. Puts me at peace. But, my children have grown up in Galion. When my son graduates, I will move outside of town in the country, maybe catch some football games from time to time. But will enjoy not running kids from practice and going to multiple games every weekend during football season. I can't imagine the running around you are doing when you talk about your work schedule, your son's camps, and of course his football games/practices. There is clearly no doubt that you have made some sacrifices for your son I made HUGE sacrifices to come here and still am. I'm just hoping it was all worth it. If he fails to get any kind of a scholarship, I will be disappointed but life goes on. ...I've gotten used to my job hours (they suck with the drive though now) Last night I went to bed about 9:30 and got up at 0130 to be at work at 0330, then I worked 10 hours today. Tomorrow I got to get up at 0200 to be there at 0400. The away football and basketball games..kick my a** it's hard going on 3-4 hours a sleep some nights. You know Galion grows on you. It's not a bad place to live. I'm soooo surprised about the drug level in this place though. You get the paper, and they always fill the news. Such a nice little city, I would never know about it if I didn't read it in the paper every week. But I like Galion, it has a lot of potential. They have a few small shops up. I like it here, but the 45 minute drives are getting old. I will have stayed here for 2 years and 1 month come next July. I'm ready to head back. I just own a 3 bedroom Bi-level house in Wooster..small fenced in backyard with locust poles surrounding..some farmer owns about a 100 acre field not even 10 feet past my fence, so I'm with you I like the country life too. Plus I'll be like 8 minutes...not 45 minutes from work. I look at Galion...Shelby (the town I grew up in) and wish they all could become like Wooster. That's one nice town - Wooster (not the greatest place for a single guy like myself though - LOL). It doesn't get it's proper recognition that I believe. You can go from one side of Wooster to the next in probably like 4 miles (it sure seems). It's like one big circle with every point only about 4 miles away. In that small area, it has a fair grounds, a college, an indoor ice rink, Dunkin Donuts, Starbucks, all the basic shops, an OSU Agriculture College too, Acres of Fun (kid games..go carts etc), movie theatre, Grocery store that conveyor belts your grocery bags full of grocery out to your car to be put in your car for you by someone, a downtown that constantly opens new restaurants...I bet there is like 10 restaurants downtown in about a 1/8 of mile radius. They close the square downtown for Octoberfest (or Woofest), got a Jazzfest, and other festivals downtown..you can drink at them too..they have a farmer's market down on the square every Saturday in the summer. They just came out with these 2 bedroom lofts above the downtown businesses..running a person about 225,000 to buy one of them. Out of my league. LOL I'm sure I'm forgetting some things. Wooster is a great place to raise a family. The bad thing about Wooster though to me it is out in the middle of nowhere in a sense. But actually you aren't too far (if you don't mind driving), Akron and Canton about 40 minutes away.
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Post by baseballdad on Sept 22, 2016 21:01:19 GMT -5
JA can name their score in this one.
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Post by moacfootballfan on Sept 22, 2016 21:08:36 GMT -5
Yeah, Wooster is kind of a neat mid-size city.. I hate to knock on Galion too much, but you mentioned Wooster's Octoberfest and that reminded me that next week, Galion's finest will be paraded out for ours. I try to keep away from there as much as possible.
And yes, JA can name their score. At least, we don't have to drive for this one. Glad we finally finished that 3 game road trip.
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Post by GHS 1999 on Sept 22, 2016 22:10:50 GMT -5
At least we have the updates at the stadium to look forward to. Finally a new home pressbox and play clocks!
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Post by japioneers on Sept 23, 2016 7:18:00 GMT -5
JA can name their score in this one. I'm sticking with what I said earlier... "Over the past two seasons, we have averaged 34 points per game and our opponents have averaged 14. That's what I am going with this week. Alder 34 Galion 14." JA does not run up the score if the game is obviously "over and in the books".. JA will play the backups and reserves when the score differential is 30+ and a running clock. Last week against PHS was the first time JA starters played the entire game. If you look at the football season Stats leader board on the MOAC website, you won't see many JA players (I think 2, Blacka for interceptions and Dye for rushing yards). Up to this point in the season, the starters have not played many qtrs. as compared to most schools. You would think PUGH and KOENIG would be leading the league in some category. They probably would be if they played the whole game. I do expect Galion to bring their A-Game. Playing in front of their home crowd is a huge advantage. Good luck to both teams. I hope nobody gets injured and the kids enjoy the experience. For the vast majority of high school players, High School will be the last opportunity to play this wonderful game. It goes by way too quickly. HAVE FUN!
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Post by baseballdad on Sept 23, 2016 7:59:06 GMT -5
I didn't mean to imply that JA would run it up. Just that they will have no issue at all with this game IMO. I would be surprised if this isn't a running clock the entire second half. Hopefully Galion surprises us tho.
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Post by moacfootballfan on Sept 23, 2016 8:07:22 GMT -5
You're probably right. I hope Galion can be competitive in this one. I've heard that our 2nd string QB will be the starter at the position but that our receiver that was injured last week won't be available.
Too bad for the injured kids. Senior season for some of them.
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Post by baseballdad on Sept 23, 2016 11:12:46 GMT -5
I never want to see a team banged up like Galion is. Even way way back when I was playing, I always wanted to go against the best the other team had to offer. There is no joy for me in seeing a team that is clearly outmatched be crushed by anybody. And I'm with you on the seniors. I feel for them because for 99% of them, their playing careers end when the clock hits 0 in week 10.
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Post by galiontiger on Sept 23, 2016 11:52:45 GMT -5
They will be back full strength (well I mean playing) soon. I can promise you that.
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Post by gt1975 on Sept 23, 2016 12:04:12 GMT -5
^^ I'm assuming that means your son will be playing soon which is great. Also, I am assuming he will be able to play during basketball season then. Which is big because he may be the best player on the team. We'll talk more about that when the season gets closer though. But this is definitely good news for him.
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Post by wheelpower on Sept 23, 2016 22:37:04 GMT -5
Watch the game and it was a blow out Alder must of put their JV in. I don't understand the Galion players when they did something good they showboat they was losing by a bunch
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Post by moacfootballfan on Sept 23, 2016 22:48:17 GMT -5
I didn't see any showboating at all. But it's okay if kids get a bit happy when they have some success. I think Jonathan Alder began substituting mid 3rd quarter. Galion did so at beginning of 4th quarter. Probably trying to save their quarters up. Jonathan Alder looked very good in the 28-0 first quarter. From then on, Galion outscored JA 16-15. Clearly JA is a very good team, strong running, good blocking, and a wide open passing game. From a Galion fan, this was as much fight as I've seen in this team for a while (post 1st quarter ).
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Post by galiontiger on Sept 24, 2016 2:07:57 GMT -5
Watch the game and it was a blow out Alder must of put their JV in. I don't understand the Galion players when they did something good they showboat they was losing by a bunch No, I didn't see any showboating at all. I saw kids finally making plays and getting excited about it. Actually Galion was a already substituting a couple of kids in the 3rd quarter. JA brought their own starters back out for the 3rd quarter for one series to score, and I'm guessing to up the score past the 30 point threshold for the running clock. I mean they even went for a 2 point extra point then. Still I thought it was good clean game. No problems here.
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Post by jro on Sept 25, 2016 11:48:57 GMT -5
GT, How is Galion's conditioning program? I don't follow it that well. I feel it was a down year in that department, like the off-season lifting. I didn't see the dedication this year. I think it really hurt not having head coach for so long. I could be wrong. I heard a humor that the 2-days were very easy though compared to another smaller school in the area. So a lot of questions I can't really comment on it. What I can say is losing the leadership of all those seniors (who graduated last year) hurt us. That team was a lot tighter due that high number of kids growing up together. And the loss of our coach and the gap between not having a coach sure didn't help us. The practices and two-a-days will be viewed by someone other than me. I won't comment of that. yesss their 8th grade line is huge my son plays for Grant 7th grade n I stayed for most of 8th grade game n wow yea they look good game was close 15-8 so look for some great games in high school between these schools n Grant is Hardings middle school btw
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Post by jro on Sept 25, 2016 17:57:52 GMT -5
1972, first year of the playoffs. Pleasant went undefeated and won the class A title. They then went to the hardwood the next week and proceeded to go undefeated in basketball and win state, who's going to give them a close game besides Alder?
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Post by stanley on Sept 25, 2016 21:03:13 GMT -5
^^^ got a mancrush on USA?
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