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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Nov 17, 2020 13:18:00 GMT -5
Noon on FOX
Ohio State leads the all time series 76-12-5 and has won 25 in a row. Indiana has been having a hell of year and has been breaking steaks like that.
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Post by baldref on Nov 17, 2020 13:36:54 GMT -5
Seems to me that in the last several years the Hoosiers have come into the game highly rated and then get their socks knocked off by the Bucks. BElieve the recent history will continue, although this version of Indiana appears to be a little better matchup offensively at least vs the OSU defense
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Post by Birdman on Nov 18, 2020 2:05:36 GMT -5
Key to the game........ OSU secondary plays lights out and the D-line gets great pressure. If that doesn’t happen we’re in for a ride but will still win.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2020 7:17:31 GMT -5
Seems to me that in the last several years the Hoosiers have come into the game highly rated and then get their socks knocked off by the Bucks. BElieve the recent history will continue, although this version of Indiana appears to be a little better matchup offensively at least vs the OSU defense When has Indiana ever been highly rated?
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Post by baldref on Nov 18, 2020 10:46:19 GMT -5
Allow me to clarify my earlier post. It appears that for the last five or so years, Indiana is well thought of by some who think that maybe this is the year the Hoosiers finally beat the Buckeyes in football. I misspoke when I said highly rated, meant highly thought of by some. To elaborate, in 2015 the Hoosiers were 4-0; in 2016 3-1; in 2018 4-1; in 2019 2-0 and in 2020, 4-0 all before playing OSU. Each year they got hammered by the Bucks and their seasons went downhill after that. This year they are again playing well and coming in rated, and I think they will again lose to OSU. Hope that clarifies what I was attempting to point out.
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Post by maplecityjake on Nov 18, 2020 10:54:29 GMT -5
Seems to me that in the last several years the Hoosiers have come into the game highly rated and then get their socks knocked off by the Bucks. BElieve the recent history will continue, although this version of Indiana appears to be a little better matchup offensively at least vs the OSU defense When has Indiana ever been highly rated? The General is holding for you on Line 2.
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Post by maplecityjake on Nov 18, 2020 10:55:16 GMT -5
I didn't vote. Indiana will wuss out and claim Covid-19.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2020 19:09:40 GMT -5
I too will be surprised if this game gets played, No Family or Fans allowed to attend this game. Heard it on 1100am WTAM this afternoon.
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Post by smitty1974 on Nov 18, 2020 20:24:46 GMT -5
mark may this will be in effect up to the ohio state- michigan game then its wait and see.
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Post by ronburgandy on Nov 21, 2020 15:06:19 GMT -5
Good thing our offense is legit because our defense isn’t... more specifically the pass defense. Yikes.
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Post by Birdman on Nov 21, 2020 15:11:36 GMT -5
Good thing our offense is legit because our defense isn’t... more specifically the pass defense. Yikes. You can say that again over 400 yards passing and the game isn’t over yet. Embarrassing.
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Post by ronburgandy on Nov 21, 2020 15:18:33 GMT -5
477 yards now. Shaun Wade once again burnt badly. Yeah he had the pick 6 earlier but he has been burnt a lot this year.. badly.
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Post by ronburgandy on Nov 21, 2020 15:51:52 GMT -5
Marcus Hooker has also been really bad all season. Which makes me wonder how bad are the other safeties?
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Post by sportsjock on Nov 22, 2020 9:17:38 GMT -5
Marcus Hooker has also been really bad all season. Which makes me wonder how bad are the other safeties? Actually, Josh Proctor has been the lone bright spot in the secondary. It is my understanding, he has been grading out, quite well at his safety position. I agree, Marcus Hooker has been caught out of position quite often and we've been burned on big plays as a result. Mark it up to inexperience. As much as we hate it, they will learn by their mistakes and get better.
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Post by ronburgandy on Nov 22, 2020 10:17:07 GMT -5
Marcus Hooker has also been really bad all season. Which makes me wonder how bad are the other safeties? Actually, Josh Proctor has been the lone bright spot in the secondary. It is my understanding, he has been grading out, quite well at his safety position. I agree, Marcus Hooker has been caught out of position quite often and we've been burned on big plays as a result. Mark it up to inexperience. As much as we hate it, they will learn by their mistakes and get better. It may be inexperience but when it keeps happening over and over, wouldn’t it be a thought to give another person a chance?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2020 10:33:29 GMT -5
People forget that 2 DB’s were dismissed in the spring and Brendan White is playing at Rutgers. Also this only game 4. They are still trying to play single high (Hooker). I think they are more of a cover 2 team when the chips are on the table
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Post by ronburgandy on Nov 22, 2020 11:22:09 GMT -5
I haven’t forgot that at all (Riep and Went). Just seems that someone else could at least get a shot, not saying they have to play every snap. Something obviously isn’t working right.
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Post by ScarletFever on Nov 22, 2020 11:47:01 GMT -5
This isn’t even a top 20 OSU team I’ve seen in my lifetime, and maybe a bottom 10 defense.
it’s just the competition is so poor these days we still have a shot at a title.
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Post by baldref on Nov 22, 2020 11:58:15 GMT -5
The OSU haters are already out in force Ross Dellenger of Sports Illustrated already posted that OSU may not merit a playoff position over a two-losss SEC team or a one-loss Notre Dame or some other pretender He accurately points out the Bucks flaws but also fails to mention that Indiana was a top ten team and the Bucks had seemingly blown the game open at the start of the second half before taking the foot off the pedal. BTW, DEllenger's credentials are a graduate of MIssissippi State, covering LSU for a NEw Orleans paper; Missouri for a Columbia, Mo. newspaper' Georgia and Jackson State for a Jackson Mississippi paper -- all before graduating to the SI rag. But fellas no bias here, really, he knows everything about OSU and the B1G.
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Post by ronburgandy on Nov 22, 2020 12:21:48 GMT -5
I might be critical of the secondary but that’s just insanity. Ohio State is obviously one of the top teams in the country. Let them hate.
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Post by baldref on Nov 22, 2020 12:36:03 GMT -5
Ron wasnt criticizing you in any shape, manner or form. Heck. I'm just as concerned about this young secondary but they will grow up. As for the offense, the only thing that concerns me is t by at least we too often take our foot off the pedal. Go for the jugular and then shake hands after the game as my old coach always said.
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Post by ronburgandy on Nov 22, 2020 12:51:31 GMT -5
I know you weren’t, I was just replying to that story you posted. If Ohio State had won yesterday 35-7 or something close to that then the narrative would be that Indiana was way overrated. They’re in no win situation when it comes to national media.
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Post by sportsjock on Nov 22, 2020 14:28:46 GMT -5
I lay most of the blame for this late game resurgence from a developing blowout, on our coaching staff, more than the players. Our 2nd half strategy made us enablers, instead of finalizing the blowout. Continuous handoffs to RB's instead of mixing it up and utilizing our incredible talents at QB and wide receiver, is exactly what Tom Allen was praying for. Our late game offense was predictable and one dimensional. Give a team like Indiana ample opportunities, with 3 and out after 3 and out, is not going to bode well and it didn't.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2020 14:39:03 GMT -5
I lay most of the blame for this late game resurgence from a developing blowout, on our coaching staff, more than the players. Our 2nd half strategy made us enablers, instead of finalizing the blowout. Continuous handoffs to RB's instead of mixing it up and utilizing our incredible talents at QB and wide receiver, is exactly what Tom Allen was praying for. Our late game offense was predictable and one dimensional. Give a team like Indiana ample opportunities, with 3 and out after 3 and out, is not going to bode well and it didn't. No idea what game you were watching but they had one 3 and out in the second half
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Post by sportsjock on Nov 22, 2020 15:06:23 GMT -5
I lay most of the blame for this late game resurgence from a developing blowout, on our coaching staff, more than the players. Our 2nd half strategy made us enablers, instead of finalizing the blowout. Continuous handoffs to RB's instead of mixing it up and utilizing our incredible talents at QB and wide receiver, is exactly what Tom Allen was praying for. Our late game offense was predictable and one dimensional. Give a team like Indiana ample opportunities, with 3 and out after 3 and out, is not going to bode well and it didn't. No idea what game you were watching but they had one 3 and out in the second half I won't argue your facts and probably the case, but we punted a lot and went scoreless after the early 3rd qtr. scores. Our offense went into a one dimensional funk. On the other side of the coin, what's to complain about 607 yards of offense!
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 22, 2020 19:56:28 GMT -5
I lay most of the blame for this late game resurgence from a developing blowout, on our coaching staff, more than the players. Our 2nd half strategy made us enablers, instead of finalizing the blowout. Continuous handoffs to RB's instead of mixing it up and utilizing our incredible talents at QB and wide receiver, is exactly what Tom Allen was praying for. Our late game offense was predictable and one dimensional. Give a team like Indiana ample opportunities, with 3 and out after 3 and out, is not going to bode well and it didn't. I don't think Day trusted his "incredible talent at QB and wide receiver" to not to turn the ball over or make catches. You heard him, THE most important thing on Saturday was to win. He accomplished that....barely.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 22, 2020 19:59:16 GMT -5
Marcus Hooker has also been really bad all season. Which makes me wonder how bad are the other safeties? What is THE single biggest difference this year? New Defensive Coordinator.
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Post by sportsjock on Nov 22, 2020 20:40:23 GMT -5
I lay most of the blame for this late game resurgence from a developing blowout, on our coaching staff, more than the players. Our 2nd half strategy made us enablers, instead of finalizing the blowout. Continuous handoffs to RB's instead of mixing it up and utilizing our incredible talents at QB and wide receiver, is exactly what Tom Allen was praying for. Our late game offense was predictable and one dimensional. Give a team like Indiana ample opportunities, with 3 and out after 3 and out, is not going to bode well and it didn't. I don't think Day trusted his "incredible talent at QB and wide receiver" to not to turn the ball over or make catches. You heard him, THE most important thing on Saturday was to win. He accomplished that....barely. Suddenly, we can't trust our Heisman caliber QB and perhaps the top reciever in the country? The overly cautious, conservative playcalling, late 3rd quarter/4th quarter, almost cost us the game. I agree, the most important thing was to win the game, but our methods almost gave the win to Indiana and certainly proved to be a negative in the eyes of the playoff selection committee. Fact is, we failed to score a single point the last quarter and a half of this game, while being dazzled by a 28 point scoring blitz from Penix and his receivers. Playing not to lose is usually taken advantage of by the opposing team and was the case on Saturday.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2020 21:44:05 GMT -5
Marcus Hooker has also been really bad all season. Which makes me wonder how bad are the other safeties? What is THE single biggest difference this year? New Defensive Coordinator. no, the single biggest difference is losing 5 guys that are playing on Sunday’s
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 23, 2020 0:31:06 GMT -5
Losing great players happens every year in top programs. Not so with coordinators.
Everyone knew Indiana would be throwing on almost every play after going down 35-7 in the 2nd half. AND they were terrible at running in the first half, when the game was closer. With that being said, cn you explain why there were 3 LBs on the field in the 2nd half for most plays? Why not a lot of D-line stunts to put more pressure on their QB, instead of staying in their lanes to stop the run? Heck MAKE them want to run the ball. Looked like Indiana used much more ingenuity to pressure Fields. Why is Shaun Wade a much different player this year. It all points to coaching, the biggest "change" this year.
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