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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2021 14:07:32 GMT -5
Perwalk has a serious issue with the N-10. Talked all last year how Upper’s schedule didn’t prepare them for D2 and then Upper went out down 2 starters and won the district including beating his Truckers.
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Post by juju on Feb 25, 2021 14:42:18 GMT -5
Perwalk has a serious issue with the N-10. Talked all last year how Upper’s schedule didn’t prepare them for D2 and then Upper went out down 2 starters and won the district including beating his Truckers. Ya I know I remember. Not sure what’s so bad with the N-10 or why he has such an issue with the conference. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 25, 2021 15:10:58 GMT -5
^^^ seriously, and SE got beat on a buzzer beater 3 from the volleyball line. Not like they got ran off their home floor. How many teams does one conference have to have in it for them not to be “what you thought they were” Karma for that to happen to Wynford.  |
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Post by perwalk on Feb 26, 2021 7:02:28 GMT -5
Perwalk has a serious issue with the N-10. Talked all last year how Upper’s schedule didn’t prepare them for D2 and then Upper went out down 2 starters and won the district including beating his Truckers. We all know they were down a couple starters last season however they also were 24-1 and the #1 seed. Don’t forget that same 24-1 team lost to a below .500 Mansfield team (I can find video if needed) and shouldn’t even been in that game with Norwalk. Nevertheless I gave them props for beating an 8 loss Norwalk team also. So as for this year they have even records, even seeds the lake is incredibly down so I guess we’ll see how prepared Upper is? JuJu what do you see tonight??? |
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Post by juju on Feb 26, 2021 7:13:12 GMT -5
Perwalk has a serious issue with the N-10. Talked all last year how Upper’s schedule didn’t prepare them for D2 and then Upper went out down 2 starters and won the district including beating his Truckers. We all know they were down a couple starters last season however they also were 24-1 and the #1 seed. Don’t forget that same 24-1 team lost to a below .500 Mansfield team (I can find video if needed) and shouldn’t even been in that game with Norwalk. Nevertheless I gave them props for beating an 8 loss Norwalk team also. So as for this year they have even records, even seeds the lake is incredibly down so I guess we’ll see how prepared Upper is? JuJu what do you see tonight??? they were down a kid that averaged 20 points, and they did not lose against Mansfield they actually won at the buzzer. Sounds like a lot of saltiness or excuses, and I think it is gonna be a good game. Norwalk had a great team and so does upper Sandusky. They got the bigs to guard chapin and the defenders to guard gelhausen. It should be a good game, and I wouldn’t be surprised by either team winning. I just think it’s funny how since they are ranked 1 seed below Norwalk you automatically think they are supposed to lose. |
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Post by juju on Feb 26, 2021 8:43:21 GMT -5
But upper also has weaknesses in their offense that Steve Grey will be able to expose, Chapin and Gelhousen are also very good players so if they play better offense than the defense then Norwalk will win.
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Post by dude on Feb 26, 2021 8:52:24 GMT -5
Perwalk has a serious issue with the N-10. Talked all last year how Upper’s schedule didn’t prepare them for D2 and then Upper went out down 2 starters and won the district including beating his Truckers. We all know they were down a couple starters last season however they also were 24-1 and the #1 seed. Don’t forget that same 24-1 team lost to a below .500 Mansfield team (I can find video if needed) and shouldn’t even been in that game with Norwalk. Nevertheless I gave them props for beating an 8 loss Norwalk team also. So as for this year they have even records, even seeds the lake is incredibly down so I guess we’ll see how prepared Upper is? JuJu what do you see tonight??? Records tell a true story between 2 teams only if the same schedule is played, other than that they are fuel for talk on chat boards. Upper did not go 24-1 without 2 starters and Norwalk did not have 8 losses playing the Upper Sandusky schedule. At the time of the tip, Norwalk was the favorite for most people in that gym. |
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Post by dude on Feb 26, 2021 8:59:34 GMT -5
We all know they were down a couple starters last season however they also were 24-1 and the #1 seed. Don’t forget that same 24-1 team lost to a below .500 Mansfield team (I can find video if needed) and shouldn’t even been in that game with Norwalk. Nevertheless I gave them props for beating an 8 loss Norwalk team also. So as for this year they have even records, even seeds the lake is incredibly down so I guess we’ll see how prepared Upper is? JuJu what do you see tonight??? they were down a kid that averaged 20 points, and they did not lose against Mansfield they actually won at the buzzer. They averaged 77pts a game in regular season so scoring 60 without him was on par. The game was lost by Mansfield making a bad decision with seconds on the clock. |
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Post by jvchesster on Feb 26, 2021 9:04:30 GMT -5
they were down a kid that averaged 20 points, and they did not lose against Mansfield they actually won at the buzzer. They averaged 77pts a game in regular season so scoring 60 without him was on par. The game was lost by Mansfield making a bad decision with seconds on the clock. Wasn’t there a shot at the buzzer that shouldn’t have counted? |
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Post by jmorgret07 on Feb 26, 2021 9:22:27 GMT -5
They averaged 77pts a game in regular season so scoring 60 without him was on par. The game was lost by Mansfield making a bad decision with seconds on the clock. Wasn’t there a shot at the buzzer that shouldn’t have counted? Did Upper Sandusky beat Mansfield last year? |
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Post by dude on Feb 26, 2021 9:29:40 GMT -5
They averaged 77pts a game in regular season so scoring 60 without him was on par. The game was lost by Mansfield making a bad decision with seconds on the clock. Wasn’t there a shot at the buzzer that shouldn’t have counted? Yes but there was also a Mansfield player that had the ball and the lead who could have dribbled out the clock. |
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Post by jvchesster on Feb 26, 2021 9:44:17 GMT -5
Wasn’t there a shot at the buzzer that shouldn’t have counted? Yes but there was also a Mansfield player that had the ball and the lead who could have dribbled out the clock. If I remember correctly, sr had a one point lead and missed a layup. Upper raced down and released a shot after the buzzer sounded. It went in and the refs ended up calling it good. |
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Post by dude on Feb 26, 2021 11:05:24 GMT -5
Yes but there was also a Mansfield player that had the ball and the lead who could have dribbled out the clock. If I remember correctly, sr had a one point lead and missed a layup. Upper raced down and released a shot after the buzzer sounded. It went in and the refs ended up calling it good. I would say you remember correctly. I would add that the layup did NOT need to be taken and the clock could/SHOULD have expired with Mansfield dribbling the ball. At least force US to foul to stop the clock. |
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Post by jvchesster on Feb 26, 2021 11:10:22 GMT -5
If I remember correctly, sr had a one point lead and missed a layup. Upper raced down and released a shot after the buzzer sounded. It went in and the refs ended up calling it good. I would say you remember correctly. I would add that the layup did NOT need to be taken and the clock could/SHOULD have expired with Mansfield dribbling the ball. At least force US to foul to stop the clock. I agree. Big mistake by senior. Big mistake by the officials too. Hard to find good officials anymore. |
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Post by dude on Feb 26, 2021 11:36:21 GMT -5
I would say you remember correctly. I would add that the layup did NOT need to be taken and the clock could/SHOULD have expired with Mansfield dribbling the ball. At least force US to foul to stop the clock. I agree. Big mistake by senior. Big mistake by the officials too. Hard to find good officials anymore. Officials are easy targets and can surely influence a game but if in most cases the kids and coaches decide games. In my opinion the Mansfield kid cost this team this game we are talking about. |
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Post by jvchesster on Feb 26, 2021 12:03:02 GMT -5
I agree. Big mistake by senior. Big mistake by the officials too. Hard to find good officials anymore. Officials are easy targets and can surely influence a game but if in most cases the kids and coaches decide games. In my opinion the Mansfield kid cost this team this game we are talking about. Kids and athletes in general will make mistakes. The refs are there to keep it fair. To me, when officials make mistakes that basically change the outcome of the game, I find it inexcusable. Especially when adult refs are officiating kids. They should be better. They should get better too. I’m not seeing that. |
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Post by dude on Feb 26, 2021 12:20:59 GMT -5
Officials are easy targets and can surely influence a game but if in most cases the kids and coaches decide games. In my opinion the Mansfield kid cost this team this game we are talking about. Kids and athletes in general will make mistakes. The refs are there to keep it fair. To me, when officials make mistakes that basically change the outcome of the game, I find it inexcusable. Especially when adult refs are officiating kids. They should be better. They should get better too. I’m not seeing that. I can somewhat agree, but as I said, what I feel changed the outcome of the game was when the team with the lead had a player decide he was going to do something he didn't need to do with 5 seconds left on the clock. He put the officials in that position. I agree the ref made a bad call but the kid had total control of the situation. |
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Post by perwalk on Feb 26, 2021 12:44:31 GMT -5
Guys the Mansfield player had nothing to do with the fact Upper player clearly not releasing the ball as the clock hit 0 and the horn sounded. No matter how it got to that point it is really kind of sad that in a tournament there is NO official review. Seems correctable and even to the naked eye in fast motion was obvious oh well
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Post by jvchesster on Feb 26, 2021 13:06:11 GMT -5
Guys the Mansfield player had nothing to do with the fact Upper player clearly not releasing the ball as the clock hit 0 and the horn sounded. No matter how it got to that point it is really kind of sad that in a tournament there is NO official review. Seems correctable and even to the naked eye in fast motion was obvious oh well I agree. I also can never blame a kid for a loss. It’s never a kids fault. |
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Post by dude on Feb 26, 2021 15:24:09 GMT -5
Guys the Mansfield player had nothing to do with the fact Upper player clearly not releasing the ball as the clock hit 0 and the horn sounded. No matter how it got to that point it is really kind of sad that in a tournament there is NO official review. Seems correctable and even to the naked eye in fast motion was obvious oh well The Mansfield player had nothing to do with the poor call by the official but he had a lot to do with the ball being in the hands of the Upper player when the horn sounded. |
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Post by dude on Feb 26, 2021 15:25:12 GMT -5
Guys the Mansfield player had nothing to do with the fact Upper player clearly not releasing the ball as the clock hit 0 and the horn sounded. No matter how it got to that point it is really kind of sad that in a tournament there is NO official review. Seems correctable and even to the naked eye in fast motion was obvious oh well I agree. I also can never blame a kid for a loss. It’s never a kids fault. The decision was wrong. We all have to live with our choices, kid or adult. |
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Post by jvchesster on Feb 26, 2021 15:42:20 GMT -5
I agree. I also can never blame a kid for a loss. It’s never a kids fault. The decision was wrong. We all have to live with our choices, kid or adult. But you’re only focusing on the one mistake at the end. Several other factors were involved throughout the game. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 26, 2021 15:52:54 GMT -5
Officials are easy targets and can surely influence a game but if in most cases the kids and coaches decide games. In my opinion the Mansfield kid cost this team this game we are talking about. Kids and athletes in general will make mistakes. The refs are there to keep it fair. To me, when officials make mistakes that basically change the outcome of the game, I find it inexcusable. Especially when adult refs are officiating kids. They should be better. They should get better too. I’m not seeing that. Officials are there to adjudicate based on a rule book. There has NEVER been an official that did not make a mistake. Nor are there officials who are unfair. Officials don't purposely make mistakes. If players had not previously made 5 mistakes prior to the official making his mistake the mistake would be moot. Refs do not officiate kids, they officiate an athletic contest. YOU my friend would be a prime candidate for an official, why aren't you?? THE ABSOLUTE worst fans are those who whine about officiating. It makes them look bad. |
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Post by jvchesster on Feb 26, 2021 15:56:21 GMT -5
Kids and athletes in general will make mistakes. The refs are there to keep it fair. To me, when officials make mistakes that basically change the outcome of the game, I find it inexcusable. Especially when adult refs are officiating kids. They should be better. They should get better too. I’m not seeing that. Officials are there to adjudicate based on a rule book. There has NEVER been an official that did not make a mistake. Officials don't purposely make mistakes. If players had not previously made 5 mistakes prior to the official making his mistake the mistake would be moot. Refs do not officiate kids, they officiate an athletic contest. YOU my friend would be a prime candidate for an official, why aren't you?? THE ABSOLUTE worst fans are those who whine about officiating. It makes them look bad. I plan on being a official once my kids are out of ball. I feel I should bc of all the mistakes I see watching. And I have seen instances where officials are out to get coaches fans and teams. Thanks for your opinion tho. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 26, 2021 16:13:06 GMT -5
You will make just as many mistakes if not more. It is your opinion that officials are out to get coaches, fans and teams. An ugly opinion. In the nearly 1500 games I've watched in person, I've never seen an example of it. You need to get around more, not just watch your kids games, it's made you jaded.
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Post by jvchesster on Feb 26, 2021 16:18:23 GMT -5
You will make just as many mistakes if not more. It is your opinion that officials are out to get coaches, fans and teams. An ugly opinion. In the nearly 1500 games I've watched in person, I've never seen an example of it. You need to get around more, not just watch your kids games, it's made you jaded. Lol. You must be blast to drink with. A lot of accusations there. Mostly none of it true. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 26, 2021 16:20:59 GMT -5
Fine wine or expensive Scotch, thank you.  |
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Post by jvchesster on Feb 26, 2021 16:29:15 GMT -5
Fine wine or expensive Scotch, thank you. Ok boomer |
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Post by dude on Feb 26, 2021 17:20:31 GMT -5
The decision was wrong. We all have to live with our choices, kid or adult. But you’re only focusing on the one mistake at the end. Several other factors were involved throughout the game. There are always multiple factors that go into winning or losing a game. I'm stating a fact that Mansfield had the game won and they made a bad decision and now some of their fans blame the ref for his poor call. |
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Post by jvchesster on Feb 26, 2021 17:30:17 GMT -5
But you’re only focusing on the one mistake at the end. Several other factors were involved throughout the game. There are always multiple factors that go into winning or losing a game. I'm stating a fact that Mansfield had the game won and they made a bad decision and now some of their fans blame the ref for his poor call. I hear ya. Also a fact tho is that they had the game won at the sound of the last buzzer. |
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