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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Dec 6, 2020 8:46:41 GMT -5
Noon on FOX.
Michigan leads the all time series 58-52-6.
Ohio State leads the series within the lifetime of anyone younger than 114.
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Post by ronburgandy on Dec 6, 2020 14:37:01 GMT -5
Ohio State opens as a 30 point favorite. It’s unreal how far Michigan has fallen.
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Post by ebgames on Dec 6, 2020 21:56:33 GMT -5
Ohio State opens as a 30 point favorite. It’s unreal how far Michigan has fallen. I still don’t get it. Is Harbaugh just not a good coach? They’ve had a top10 recruiting class 3 out of the last 4 years, and they always seem to be near the top. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 7, 2020 0:09:03 GMT -5
It has to be the culture. What I just don't get. How they continue to sign high 4 star recruits to get top recruiting classes.
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Post by sportsjock on Dec 7, 2020 7:32:11 GMT -5
Ohio State opens as a 30 point favorite. It’s unreal how far Michigan has fallen. I still don’t get it. Is Harbaugh just not a good coach? They’ve had a top10 recruiting class 3 out of the last 4 years, and they always seem to be near the top. What we need to understand is, coaching has a multitude of facets that come to play, in the final product. Harbaugh possesses a mixed bag of coaching attributes, but obviously, some are not good. Some may be strong in the recruiting aspect, but weak in other areas. It doesn't stop at the one individual in mention. The staff that he has selected and delegates responsibilities to, play a huge part in the assessment. It has been said so many times; 'You are only as good as the people you surround yourself with'. |
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Post by buckeyekid on Dec 7, 2020 8:23:59 GMT -5
IMO it's the assistant coaches that make or break you.
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Post by Buckeye2b on Dec 7, 2020 10:28:31 GMT -5
I still have concerns that Xichigan will bail on "the game." However, since OSU fans have already called out the Xichigan AD, I think he is struggling as well to save face since he was telling the public that Xichigan would never walk away from the game just to **** in tOSU's Wheaties. That remains to be seen unfortunately. Methinks there is a lot of abuse that needs heaped upon my Xichigan faithful up here and dammit, I'm just the guy to do it. After the abuse I endured in the '90s, I'm glad to pay it back!! GO BUCKS!!!
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 7, 2020 12:14:52 GMT -5
I just read this and it's a microcosm of Jim Harbaugh, his recruiting strategies and what they wrought. Remember that crazy story about Harbaugh's sleep over at a recruit's house, in effort to get him to flip from Penn State to U of M? Turns out this recruit was a field goal kicker, this year's field goal kicker, who has only made 3 of his 9 attempts this year. THE worst in all of the Football Sub-division. ROFL
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Post by DrTorch on Dec 7, 2020 12:36:26 GMT -5
It has to be the culture. What I just don't get. How they continue to sign high 4 star recruits to get top recruiting classes. it's the QBs...why is Bama and Clemson and OSU and OKL always at the top? QB recruiting blows my mind Harbaugh still has not got a legit QB although methinks he has one on the way |
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Post by ronburgandy on Dec 7, 2020 13:43:53 GMT -5
It has to be the culture. What I just don't get. How they continue to sign high 4 star recruits to get top recruiting classes. it's the QBs...why is Bama and Clemson and OSU and OKL always at the top? QB recruiting blows my mind Harbaugh still has not got a legit QB although methinks he has one on the way We thought he had his qb with McCaffrey a few years ago. Although this next qb coming in does seem a little better, if that’s the one you’re referring to. And this next one is McCarthy.. harbaugh sure likes those Mc-names |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 7, 2020 13:45:04 GMT -5
It has to be the culture. What I just don't get. How they continue to sign high 4 star recruits to get top recruiting classes. it's the QBs...why is Bama and Clemson and OSU and OKL always at the top? QB recruiting blows my mind Harbaugh still has not got a legit QB although methinks he has one on the way Can he develop a QB at U of M? |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 7, 2020 13:53:47 GMT -5
A couple of thoughts.
Remember how more than once it's been suggested that it's not fair that the East Division has Ohio State, U of M, Penn State and to a lesser degree Indiana and MSU in the same Division and it wasn't fair that the West Divisions was so much weaker and that's how it's always going to be? Thus teams should be be moved. Well that's been proven wrong.
Secondly, If U of M and Penn State don't get their act together, recruits from the mid-west will start to consider teams in the West Division as better options.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Dec 7, 2020 15:13:55 GMT -5
harbaugh sure likes those Mc-names ...and may they all follow in the footsteps of the great Sam McGuffie. I remember all the pre season hype for that guy, and then this one play ended up being his entire career vs. Ohio State: He didn't return to Michigan after that season, and actually went on to become an Olympian on the US Bobsleigh team in 2018. |
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Post by ebgames on Dec 7, 2020 18:37:15 GMT -5
A couple of thoughts. Remember how more than once it's been suggested that it's not fair that the East Division has Ohio State, U of M, Penn State and to a lesser degree Indiana and MSU in the same Division and it wasn't fair that the West Divisions was so much weaker and that's how it's always going to be? Thus teams should be be moved. Well that's been proven wrong. Secondly, If U of M and Penn State don't get their act together, recruits from the mid-west will start to consider teams in the West Division as better options. I don’t think I’d agree with this. Every year since the split, the East has been far superior. Even this year, OSU and Indiana are better than anyone in the West. With recruiting the way it is, OSU, PSU and UM will always be ahead of the west long term. Of course there’s always exceptions & off years. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2020 19:25:10 GMT -5
The West champion has never beaten the East champ for the title
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Post by DrTorch on Dec 7, 2020 23:37:46 GMT -5
it's the QBs...why is Bama and Clemson and OSU and OKL always at the top? QB recruiting blows my mind Harbaugh still has not got a legit QB although methinks he has one on the way Can he develop a QB at U of M? no clue, but it sure doesn't seem like he can i thought that would be his strength when he took over UM like everyone else but that is their great failing, that and the coordinators (like buckeyekid mentioned) |
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Post by dude on Dec 8, 2020 7:59:56 GMT -5
Harbaugh has no record of a being a developer. His longest tenure is at UM. 3 to 4 years and he moves on. Every job he has had he peaks in the 3rd or 4th year and then moves on.
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Post by sportsjock on Dec 8, 2020 8:37:03 GMT -5
Harbaugh has his players going through the motions of a practice regimen, all be it, with his 3rd string QB, may be a scripted deception, before they drop the hammer on Friday. I don't trust them bastards....
Just when we think things can't get any more bizarre up north, Hairball is about to receive a contract extension? Hope they give him a big bonus! Think the administration knows the after effects of firing a coach, is losing all your recruits and this program can ill afford to take that hit.
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Post by DrTorch on Dec 8, 2020 10:03:04 GMT -5
Harbaugh has no record of a being a developer. His longest tenure is at UM. 3 to 4 years and he moves on. Every job he has had he peaks in the 3rd or 4th year and then moves on. um...Andrew Luck? Colin Kaepernick? c'mon man, he's had some success in his coaching career let's not pretend he is Rich Kotite |
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Post by DrTorch on Dec 8, 2020 10:04:36 GMT -5
Harbaugh has his players going through the motions of a practice regimen, all be it, with his 3rd string QB, may be a scripted deception, before they drop the hammer on Friday. I don't trust them bastards.... Just when we think things can't get any more bizarre up north, Hairball is about to receive a contract extension? Hope they give him a big bonus! Think the administration knows the after effects of firing a coach, is losing all your recruits and this program can ill afford to take that hit. also, there is no where to go if you fire Harbaugh |
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Post by baldref on Dec 8, 2020 10:05:03 GMT -5
Agree that the mini practice up north is a sham designed to take the heat off before dropping the hammer Friday. What a farce. Hairballs contract extension offer is for less money but loaded with cash incentives. Puts him square in the middle. Predict he will accept and then jump to NFL for more $$$, unless he already has something in the fire to fall back on
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Post by kritz on Dec 8, 2020 10:38:51 GMT -5
I'm more concerned about the member here that picked Michigan to win 😲
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Post by dude on Dec 8, 2020 13:13:32 GMT -5
Harbaugh has no record of a being a developer. His longest tenure is at UM. 3 to 4 years and he moves on. Every job he has had he peaks in the 3rd or 4th year and then moves on. um...Andrew Luck? Colin Kaepernick? c'mon man, he's had some success in his coaching career let's not pretend he is Rich Kotite I never said he didn't coach some talent. |
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Post by baldref on Dec 8, 2020 13:38:40 GMT -5
scUM cancelled
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Post by ronburgandy on Dec 8, 2020 13:41:58 GMT -5
Unreal... this year sucks major balls.
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Post by baldref on Dec 8, 2020 13:44:59 GMT -5
Now we shall see what B1G does. Will they vote OSU in championship game? Who will vote against itz? Bets anyone?
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Post by Whittaker on Dec 8, 2020 13:48:24 GMT -5
We need another game to cancel by Wednesday night so we get another opponent.
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Post by Buckeye2b on Dec 8, 2020 13:55:07 GMT -5
The game.... they cancelled THE GAME! The biggest ******* rivalry in all of sports and they cancelled it. I have been abusing Michiganders this week because I'm still buying some of my '90s back from my abusers here, and they cancelled the ******* game.... pussies... (OK, not really...this COVID Poop is nasty, but I always like the opportunity to call Xichigan fans pussies.... LOL!!!) GO BUCKS!!!
Cincinnati doesn't have a game this weekend. They just cancelled their game with Tulsa, but not sure why. It could also be COVID related, however how much fun would that be... 
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Post by baldref on Dec 8, 2020 14:00:43 GMT -5
eSECpn pushing for an Indiana - OSU rematch o determine east champion. so, god forbid, indiana wins....they split series what does that prove?? eSECpn says Purdue is going to cancel so Indiana is available. Hidden agenda for eSECpn to get 2nd SEC team in???
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Post by Buckeye2b on Dec 8, 2020 14:02:50 GMT -5
eSECpn pushing for an Indiana - OSU rematch o determine east champion. so, god forbid, indiana wins....they split series what does that prove?? eSECpn says Purdue is going to cancel so Indiana is available. Hidden agenda for eSECpn to get 2nd SEC team in??? I believe it would be a suicide move by Indiana. Their first string QB is done for the season IIRC.. |
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