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Post by Rambo McClain on Dec 23, 2020 8:42:07 GMT -5
Sugar Bowl Jan 1, 2021 8:45 pm Ohio St vs Clemson Clemson is 4-0 vs Ohio State South Carolina is 2-0 vs Ohio State Ohio State is 0-6 vs the State of South Carolina ^^^^ Doesn't make any sense. Ohio State is due Clemson is a 7.5 pt favorite
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Post by sportsjock on Dec 23, 2020 9:41:19 GMT -5
I think Ohio State will focus on ball control. With the objective of minimizing the time the ball gets in Trevor Lawrence's hands. Pound them between the tackles, setting up the play-action pass. Quick slants to TE's and slot man. Most importantly, avoid the slow developing, deep patterns, till they are preoccupied with stuffing the run and short stuff. Possession game all the way. It's going to be a game of field position, so maintain ball control and no turnovers.
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Post by DrTorch on Dec 23, 2020 10:35:21 GMT -5
wtf South Carolina
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Post by fbfan on Dec 23, 2020 12:29:28 GMT -5
I think Ohio State will focus on ball control. With the objective of minimizing the time the ball gets in Trevor Lawrence's hands. Pound them between the tackles, setting up the play-action pass. Quick slants to TE's and slot man. Most importantly, avoid the slow developing, deep patterns, till they are preoccupied with stuffing the run and short stuff. Possession game all the way. It's going to be a game of field position, so maintain ball control and no turnovers. You could have saved some words and just said "Tressel Ball"
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Post by sportsjock on Dec 23, 2020 12:49:35 GMT -5
I think Ohio State will focus on ball control. With the objective of minimizing the time the ball gets in Trevor Lawrence's hands. Pound them between the tackles, setting up the play-action pass. Quick slants to TE's and slot man. Most importantly, avoid the slow developing, deep patterns, till they are preoccupied with stuffing the run and short stuff. Possession game all the way. It's going to be a game of field position, so maintain ball control and no turnovers. You could have saved some words and just said "Tressel Ball" LoL......I guess you're right in most respects. Playing 'close to the vest' (did I say vest?), limiting mistakes, good old fashioned, hardnosed football, will open up ample, high percentage, passing opportunities. In this game, Tressel ball might be the winning formula.
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Post by ronburgandy on Dec 23, 2020 13:36:03 GMT -5
I actually think the opposite, they gotta just open it up. Clemson’s offense is too good, they’re going to score 30+ So no matter how much ball control we play, if we start punting several times we’re in trouble.
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Post by sportsjock on Dec 23, 2020 14:38:24 GMT -5
I actually think the opposite, they gotta just open it up. Clemson’s offense is too good, they’re going to score 30+ So no matter how much ball control we play, if we start punting several times we’re in trouble. If we come out throwing, without establishing the run game, it wouldn't fare well for our offense. If we can prove we can run effectively, it opens up everything else.
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Post by ronburgandy on Dec 23, 2020 14:40:55 GMT -5
I didn’t mean not run at all, obviously we have to with the way Sermon is running. I mean we can’t just go into full on Tressel ball. Clemson is going to score so we can’t be punting and going too conservative.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 23, 2020 17:56:07 GMT -5
I think Ohio State will focus on ball control. With the objective of minimizing the time the ball gets in Trevor Lawrence's hands. Pound them between the tackles, setting up the play-action pass. Quick slants to TE's and slot man. Most importantly, avoid the slow developing, deep patterns, till they are preoccupied with stuffing the run and short stuff. Possession game all the way. It's going to be a game of field position, so maintain ball control and no turnovers. That's just crazy. You actually believe Ohio State can run the ball on almost every play and score a TD not only every time after Clemson scores a TD, but more often?
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Post by sportsjock on Dec 23, 2020 21:04:28 GMT -5
I didn’t mean not run at all, obviously we have to with the way Sermon is running. I mean we can’t just go into full on Tressel ball. Clemson is going to score so we can’t be punting and going too conservative. I agree.......
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Post by sportsjock on Dec 23, 2020 21:22:12 GMT -5
I think Ohio State will focus on ball control. With the objective of minimizing the time the ball gets in Trevor Lawrence's hands. Pound them between the tackles, setting up the play-action pass. Quick slants to TE's and slot man. Most importantly, avoid the slow developing, deep patterns, till they are preoccupied with stuffing the run and short stuff. Possession game all the way. It's going to be a game of field position, so maintain ball control and no turnovers. That's just crazy. You actually believe Ohio State can run the ball on almost every play and score a TD not only every time after Clemson scores a TD, but more often? Nobody has any delusion of running endless traps and counters. Establishing a running game can be accomplished with a mixed ball movement. What I was eluding to, is getting them to respect our run game, early on, opens up everything else we wish to do with our passing game.
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Post by buckeyekid on Dec 26, 2020 6:12:08 GMT -5
Via another website that has guys with team connections--the coaching staff feels they have an advantage on the LOS on both sides. The gameplan is to try and take advantage of this as much as possible. I think we can run the ball on Clemson too by running right at them with power. Our OL is full of bruisers who like to run block and I think we can be successful by doing so. The difference being, if we get in the red zone we have to score TD's and not kick fg's like last year. I hope Coach Day took a lesson from last year. For instance, on first and goal from the 7, run the ball a couple times right at them with Sermon who is on fire right now and has fresh legs. If they begin to stack the middle with LB's, bootleg out Fields and let him RPO and be the athlete he is.
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Post by DrTorch on Dec 26, 2020 20:07:56 GMT -5
only thing i worry is that we look sloppy from lack of gameplay, no real way to over come that...we just haven't played a lot of ball
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Post by DrTorch on Dec 26, 2020 20:08:59 GMT -5
Via another website that has guys with team connections--the coaching staff feels they have an advantage on the LOS on both sides. The gameplan is to try and take advantage of this as much as possible. I think we can run the ball on Clemson too by running right at them with power. Our OL is full of bruisers who like to run block and I think we can be successful by doing so. The difference being, if we get in the red zone we have to score TD's and not kick fg's like last year. I hope Coach Day took a lesson from last year. For instance, on first and goal from the 7, run the ball a couple times right at them with Sermon who is on fire right now and has fresh legs. If they begin to stack the middle with LB's, bootleg out Fields and let him RPO and be the athlete he is. if JK just catches those balls we win running away, it took so much for us to lose that game last year it was sickening
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Post by sportsjock on Dec 26, 2020 22:21:53 GMT -5
I can honestly say, I don't hate Harbaugh or any other coach, EXCEPT this arrogant jerk....Abba Dabo Doo. Thought Bret Bielema took the cake for most arrogant SOB, but this Swinney guy is Bielema on steroids. I was hoping, never to see Beliema in our conference again.
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Post by Birdman on Dec 26, 2020 22:38:51 GMT -5
Is it just me or does anyone else feel that Clemson not knowing our full potential and the buck not hitting it yet can be a huge advantage for the buckeyes..
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Post by buckeyekid on Dec 27, 2020 9:57:00 GMT -5
Torch, I've rewatched parts of that game about 15 times. I cannot believe how many big 50/50 plays went against us.At least 8 at last count. 2 Dobbins drops which one was gonna be a TD and the other a probable one. 1-Penalty on Punt block attempt 1- Wade targeting call. 1- Wade ejection. 1-Fumble recovery and subsequent TD by Jordan Fuller reversal. 1- Clemson return guy having a punt bounce off him at the 3 yard line and still manage to fall on it. 1-Olave running the correct route to the end zone and subsequent INT ending the game. One goes our way and we probably win.
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Post by sportsjock on Dec 27, 2020 11:19:56 GMT -5
Torch, I've rewatched parts of that game about 15 times. I cannot believe how many big 50/50 plays went against us.At least 8 at last count. 2 Dobbins drops which one was gonna be a TD and the other a probable one. 1-Penalty on Punt block attempt 1- Wade targeting call. 1- Wade ejection. 1-Fumble recovery and subsequent TD by Jordan Fuller reversal. 1- Clemson return guy having a punt bounce off him at the 3 yard line and still manage to fall on it. 1-Olave running the correct route to the end zone and subsequent INT ending the game. One goes our way and we probably win. I understood the JF pass was correctly thrown to where Olave was supposed to be, he simply cut the wrong way. Please correct me, if I am wrong. That game was ours, for the taking, but the stars totally aligned for Clemson in the waning moments.
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Post by DrTorch on Dec 27, 2020 11:25:53 GMT -5
Torch, I've rewatched parts of that game about 15 times. I cannot believe how many big 50/50 plays went against us.At least 8 at last count. 2 Dobbins drops which one was gonna be a TD and the other a probable one. 1-Penalty on Punt block attempt 1- Wade targeting call. 1- Wade ejection. 1-Fumble recovery and subsequent TD by Jordan Fuller reversal. 1- Clemson return guy having a punt bounce off him at the 3 yard line and still manage to fall on it. 1-Olave running the correct route to the end zone and subsequent INT ending the game. One goes our way and we probably win. it's a brutal watch no argument here, the crazy thing about that Olave play is the pass itself was accurate and on time if he runs the correct route still very concerned about the upcoming game, WE HAVE NO GAME EXPERIENCE THIS YEAR and it showed vs NWestern, lack of game time lack of practice time lack of a cohesive roster, knives get dull man it's a fact of life and we're trying to sharpen that thing on our pant leg Clemson just lit up what is at least a decent team in ND. They have been playing and practicing, we haven't. Rest is good but rust is real.
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Post by buckeyekid on Dec 27, 2020 11:39:03 GMT -5
If we were at full strength, we would have lit up NW too. We weren't and it showed even more than we imagined. For me,,the biggest thing I worry about is will our DB's tackle and cover the way they should . Which is why we really really need to control the LOS. This happened against NW, but we didn't exploit it the way we could and should have. I have a feeling Day has some special plays for CLEM, not yet seen this season. Watch for them.
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Post by Birdman on Dec 27, 2020 12:50:42 GMT -5
I think Day, with the mind set of win out and win the big ten we’re in, has kept things for the most part vanilla.
These guys haven’t hit their full potential yet and I have to believe they all have the athleticism and talent to match up with the tigers.
The emergence of Sermon is right on time and I think Fields has a point to prove. The buckeyes have a tall task, but I believe they’re more than up to the challenge.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 27, 2020 15:49:16 GMT -5
Torch, I've rewatched parts of that game about 15 times. I cannot believe how many big 50/50 plays went against us.At least 8 at last count. 2 Dobbins drops which one was gonna be a TD and the other a probable one. 1-Penalty on Punt block attempt 1- Wade targeting call. 1- Wade ejection. 1-Fumble recovery and subsequent TD by Jordan Fuller reversal. 1- Clemson return guy having a punt bounce off him at the 3 yard line and still manage to fall on it. 1-Olave running the correct route to the end zone and subsequent INT ending the game. One goes our way and we probably win. Add to that Fields playing on one leg, as well as Dobbins in the 2nd half.
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Post by buckeyekid on Dec 28, 2020 12:55:41 GMT -5
Gameplan is ball control. Contain Sabinne and Lawrence. Own the LOS. Motivation through the Dabo disrespect. Lot of 1's vs 1's in practice.
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Post by WoosterBuckeye on Dec 28, 2020 14:09:53 GMT -5
Rust is definitely real. Dabo keeps referring to OSU's short season as an advantage. It is not an advantage.
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Post by cbus on Dec 28, 2020 22:28:52 GMT -5
I am surprised the line is only 7.5. I thought it would be closer to 14. Fields needs to play way better than he did against Indy and NW.
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Post by baldref on Dec 30, 2020 16:01:34 GMT -5
Interesting article in Yahoo Sports by Pete Thamel on Clemson's sign stealing ability which has been widely acknowledged in the ACC and elsewhere. Double trouble for OSU with the assistant coach who jumped from OSU to Clemson in the off season.
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Post by 3micabri on Dec 30, 2020 16:31:13 GMT -5
Who would that be??
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Post by baldref on Dec 30, 2020 21:42:21 GMT -5
[br Chandler whitner I think was a graduate assistant coach who left osu after last season and is now offensive assistant at clemson.
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Post by maplecityjake on Dec 31, 2020 7:17:19 GMT -5
The best Defense against COVID-19 isn't a vaccination, washing your hands, nor wearing a mask, but Brent Venables.
Sincerely,
Kirk H
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Post by baldref on Dec 31, 2020 9:35:02 GMT -5
The best Defense against COVID-19 isn't a vaccination, washing your hands, nor wearing a mask, but Brent Venables. Sincerely, Kirk H LOL.... only a few will get it but very good!
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