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Post by dude on Feb 8, 2021 10:34:10 GMT -5
When your record is 23-3 you should have much higher expectations than getting beat by 32. Maybe to the unknowlegable such as yourself. Any one else knew OG was a bad matchup for CC. Afterall, as iv’e said, OG was best d3 team in the state last year. No shame what so ever in getting run out of the gym. OG can be a bad matchup for anyone but it can be specially bad when you are not or do not prepare. I think CC last year was a good team but unfortunately they were not prepared during the season. And the same may be true this year. I am knowledgeable enough to see a nonleague schedule. If a team is 23-3 the expectation would not be a 32pt loss. OG is always good in part because of the WBL and their nonleague schedule makes them better.
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Post by buckeyekid on Feb 8, 2021 10:48:20 GMT -5
Dude is correct. Which was my point 2 weeks ago when I first started the semi discussion in talking about CC's schedule with purefan. I think they have a good team too,,but man that is a weak sauce non conference schedule for sure. They should be playing teams like Ontario, Willard, Shelby etc. In purefan's defense---OG was very very good last year--State Champ good,,and I think Dude is also correct CC's schedule doesn't prep them for that kind of a team. When Willard was in their hayday,,we were AA and we never or hardly ever played single A comp during the season. Lot of AAA and it helped us I think.
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Post by sport24278 on Feb 8, 2021 10:49:00 GMT -5
OG was the real deal last season, you cant argue that. willard (19-3) lost the previous season by 21 to a team that was 17-9 (coldwater). not prepared?
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Post by buckeyekid on Feb 8, 2021 10:55:15 GMT -5
I think we were prepared,,we just shot terrible and they were unconscious. Coldwater was just better than us. Probably 10pts most nights
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Post by dude on Feb 8, 2021 11:02:25 GMT -5
OG was the real deal last season, you cant argue that. willard (19-3) lost the previous season by 21 to a team that was 17-9 (coldwater). not prepared? You can also look at game stats and say a team under performed while another can play an outstanding game. When a team can make 12 shots behind the line and normally make 5-6 they are having a good game. Match that with a team that normally makes 6-7 and they make 2, it can be a bad night for them.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 8, 2021 11:34:37 GMT -5
Yet no one can EVER suggest to favor playing CC over another team. HOW DARE ANYONE!! Willie not sure where this sarcasm and attempt at a dig is coming from. Never did i slam anyone for suggesting anything of the sort. Been trying to have good disscussion and you stick your head into this like you do everywhere else. Also YOU brought up holes, not me. I simply 1st asked if someone was still “ sore” i. e. “Butt hurt”. Unpureone, a prevarication, what part of the "butt" is sore? Not a cheek. A disscussion[sic] takes more than one, but is not limited to a specific number. Play on.
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Post by purefan on Feb 8, 2021 11:34:39 GMT -5
Dude is correct. Which was my point 2 weeks ago when I first started the semi discussion in talking about CC's schedule with purefan. I think they have a good team too,,but man that is a weak sauce non conference schedule for sure. They should be playing teams like Ontario, Willard, Shelby etc. In purefan's defense---OG was very very good last year--State Champ good,,and I think Dude is also correct CC's schedule doesn't prep them for that kind of a team. When Willard was in their hayday,,we were AA and we never or hardly ever played single A comp during the season. Lot of AAA and it helped us I think. This is your best post in this disscussion. Instead of taking digs. In CC’s defense no one expected the type of season they are having this year with all they lost last year. One could say they may be overachieving this year thus the scheduling up wasn’t in the thought process although in general i’d love to see CC play those teams on a reg. basis as they would be great games. I do see now that CC has picked up clearfork which many of the willard faithful seem to think is pretty good but i do not. With all the games getting crammed into these last 2 weeks kinda surprised they found another team to play.
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Post by purefan on Feb 8, 2021 11:37:12 GMT -5
OG was the real deal last season, you cant argue that. willard (19-3) lost the previous season by 21 to a team that was 17-9 (coldwater). not prepared? You can also look at game stats and say a team under performed while another can play an outstanding game. When a team can make 12 shots behind the line and normally make 5-6 they are having a good game. Match that with a team that normally makes 6-7 and they make 2, it can be a bad night for them. Same could apply to CC game last year although i won’t. OG was 30 points better than CC in 9 out of 10 games.
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Post by buckeyekid on Feb 8, 2021 11:37:32 GMT -5
Thanks, I get it.
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Post by purefan on Feb 8, 2021 11:37:56 GMT -5
Willie not sure where this sarcasm and attempt at a dig is coming from. Never did i slam anyone for suggesting anything of the sort. Been trying to have good disscussion and you stick your head into this like you do everywhere else. Also YOU brought up holes, not me. I simply 1st asked if someone was still “ sore” i. e. “Butt hurt”. Unpureone, a prevarication, what part of the "butt" is sore? Not a cheek. A disscussion[sic] takes more than one, but is not limited to a specific number. Play on. Touche!😉
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Post by dude on Feb 8, 2021 11:48:42 GMT -5
Dude is correct. Which was my point 2 weeks ago when I first started the semi discussion in talking about CC's schedule with purefan. I think they have a good team too,,but man that is a weak sauce non conference schedule for sure. They should be playing teams like Ontario, Willard, Shelby etc. In purefan's defense---OG was very very good last year--State Champ good,,and I think Dude is also correct CC's schedule doesn't prep them for that kind of a team. When Willard was in their hayday,,we were AA and we never or hardly ever played single A comp during the season. Lot of AAA and it helped us I think. This is your best post in this disscussion. Instead of taking digs. In CC’s defense no one expected the type of season they are having this year with all they lost last year. One could say they may be overachieving this year thus the scheduling up wasn’t in the thought process although in general i’d love to see CC play those teams on a reg. basis as they would be great games. I do see now that CC has picked up clearfork which many of the willard faithful seem to think is pretty good but i do not. With all the games getting crammed into these last 2 weeks kinda surprised they found another team to play. CC does not have to expect a good season to schedule better competition. The coach is the AD and he is not getting fired if they go 15-7 and are better prepared for teams like OG in tournament. With CC in any average season they have maybe at least 10-12 wins in their conference alone. Be honest, that's why the coach put this league together.
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Post by dude on Feb 8, 2021 11:56:27 GMT -5
You can also look at game stats and say a team under performed while another can play an outstanding game. When a team can make 12 shots behind the line and normally make 5-6 they are having a good game. Match that with a team that normally makes 6-7 and they make 2, it can be a bad night for them. Same could apply to CC game last year although i won’t. OG was 30 points better than CC in 9 out of 10 games. The same could not be said. OG played a below typical game for them and CC played a defense they were not ready for.
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Post by purefan on Feb 8, 2021 12:04:15 GMT -5
Same could apply to CC game last year although i won’t. OG was 30 points better than CC in 9 out of 10 games. The same could not be said. OG played a below typical game for them and CC played a defense they were not ready for. Oh dude, no one, and i mean NO ONE, could of prepared CC for OG. Not many teams in our area that have that many 6’4” ish to 6’5” ish kids that are athletic freaks that are very well coached. Had nothing to do with there defense. Had everything to do with there size and athleticism. Get back to the real world here.
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Post by dude on Feb 8, 2021 13:54:38 GMT -5
The same could not be said. OG played a below typical game for them and CC played a defense they were not ready for. Oh dude, no one, and i mean NO ONE, could of prepared CC for OG. Not many teams in our area that have that many 6’4” ish to 6’5” ish kids that are athletic freaks that are very well coached. Had nothing to do with there defense. Had everything to do with there size and athleticism. Get back to the real world here. I agree no one could have prepared CC to BEAT OG, but there are teams that CC could play that would have prepared them for that game. Lots of teams that played OG last season did not get beat by 32 and all of them did not win 23 games. I agree, let's get back to today. Since I'm the bad guy I will ask, has anyone ever seen a team go 22-0 and not win a District title? I'm not making a prediction. I'm asking a question.
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Post by purefan on Feb 8, 2021 14:50:50 GMT -5
Oh dude, no one, and i mean NO ONE, could of prepared CC for OG. Not many teams in our area that have that many 6’4” ish to 6’5” ish kids that are athletic freaks that are very well coached. Had nothing to do with there defense. Had everything to do with there size and athleticism. Get back to the real world here. I agree no one could have prepared CC to BEAT OG, but there are teams that CC could play that would have prepared them for that game. Lots of teams that played OG last season did not get beat by 32 and all of them did not win 23 games. I agree, let's get back to today. Since I'm the bad guy I will ask, has anyone ever seen a team go 22-0 and not win a District title? I'm not making a prediction. I'm asking a question. Yes. Upper sandusky at least twice if memory serves me correct. And there are many more. Go to davey 1 but i’m guessing you already knew the answer to your question.
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Post by dude on Feb 8, 2021 14:59:47 GMT -5
I agree no one could have prepared CC to BEAT OG, but there are teams that CC could play that would have prepared them for that game. Lots of teams that played OG last season did not get beat by 32 and all of them did not win 23 games. I agree, let's get back to today. Since I'm the bad guy I will ask, has anyone ever seen a team go 22-0 and not win a District title? I'm not making a prediction. I'm asking a question. Yes. Upper sandusky at least twice if memory serves me correct. And there are many more. Go to davey 1 but i’m guessing you already knew the answer to your question. I did know of Upper and that is why I asked. They would have been in a similar state as a fellow N10 school.
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Post by purefan on Feb 8, 2021 15:07:05 GMT -5
Yes. Upper sandusky at least twice if memory serves me correct. And there are many more. Go to davey 1 but i’m guessing you already knew the answer to your question. I did know of Upper and that is why I asked. They would have been in a similar state as a fellow N10 school. If you knew the answer then why ask the question hmmmm. I think we all know why.
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Post by dude on Feb 8, 2021 15:35:14 GMT -5
I did know of Upper and that is why I asked. They would have been in a similar state as a fellow N10 school. If you knew the answer then why ask the question hmmmm. I think we all know why. Because I wanted to know of any and all that have done it. Not just Upper. Do you know of others?
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Post by purefan on Feb 8, 2021 16:07:27 GMT -5
If you knew the answer then why ask the question hmmmm. I think we all know why. Because I wanted to know of any and all that have done it. Not just Upper. Do you know of others? 18-19 Archbold, genoa, and sylvania northview 14-15 Gibsonburg and sylvania southview 12-13 Norwalk 09-10 Liberty benton 08-09 New knoxville 07-08 Liberty benton 06-07 Toledo christian 05-06 Ottoville. These are just teams in nortwest district. I shouldn’t of done the work for you but i guess if your the bad guy i’ll play the nice guy
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 8, 2021 16:50:07 GMT -5
I did know of Upper and that is why I asked. They would have been in a similar state as a fellow N10 school. If you knew the answer then why ask the question hmmmm. I think we all know why. THAT and he's a lazy ars
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Post by buckeyekid on Feb 8, 2021 19:00:46 GMT -5
Undefeated 1991 version of WHS lost to Fostoria in the Sectional Final . As I recall they were much quicker than we were and they had guards that pressed us, and I think we didn’t handle it too well.
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Post by dude on Feb 8, 2021 22:27:18 GMT -5
Because I wanted to know of any and all that have done it. Not just Upper. Do you know of others? 18-19 Archbold, genoa, and sylvania northview 14-15 Gibsonburg and sylvania southview 12-13 Norwalk 09-10 Liberty benton 08-09 New knoxville 07-08 Liberty benton 06-07 Toledo christian 05-06 Ottoville. These are just teams in nortwest district. I shouldn’t of done the work for you but i guess if your the bad guy i’ll play the nice guy I appreciate the info and now I know. I will let you know that I'm pretty sure LB in 9/10 went 21-1.
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Post by jmorgret07 on Feb 9, 2021 8:05:43 GMT -5
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Post by purefan on Feb 12, 2021 13:46:42 GMT -5
Western Reserve might be playing the best of anyone in this district heading into tournaments. Just saw they smoked monroeville last nite.
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Post by crimson5 on Feb 12, 2021 20:46:56 GMT -5
Western Reserve might be playing the best of anyone in this district heading into tournaments. Just saw they smoked monroeville last nite. They are certainly the most dangerous, but inconsistent. CC most consistent.
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Post by buckeyekid on Feb 14, 2021 9:12:13 GMT -5
Western loses to Toledo Christian last night. TC is a good team in D4. They only have 4 losses. One btw to Cardinal Stritch whose last defeat came at the hands of Willard .
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Post by marchmadness on Feb 15, 2021 20:41:48 GMT -5
I'm not willing to put Willard on upset alert, but I will say that their sectional matchup may be tougher than people would expect. Seneca East is playing much better the second half of the year, based on scores and what not. I really don't know much about them thanks to covid but I would think Willard playing at home should be fine. Don't be surprised if it's not a blowout though. Good luck to the flashes. This should be a fun district.
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Post by buckeyekid on Feb 16, 2021 19:15:04 GMT -5
I looked up SE, I agree it won’t be slam dunk for Willard. But I think we win by double digits at home unless something crazy happens.
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Post by truecrimson on Feb 16, 2021 21:26:08 GMT -5
I looked up SE, I agree it won’t be slam dunk for Willard. But I think we win by double digits at home unless something crazy happens. Willard has too much speed, 15+.
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Post by purefan on Feb 17, 2021 9:07:20 GMT -5
I looked up SE, I agree it won’t be slam dunk for Willard. But I think we win by double digits at home unless something crazy happens. It will come down to if SE shoots the 3 ball well or not. When they are on they can compete with anyone like they did 1st game against CC only losing by 4. 2nd game couldn’t throw it in the ocean and lost by 21.
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