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Post by browns624 on Oct 29, 2021 11:59:54 GMT -5
Well it's official Baker will get the start Sunday. Prepare to hold your breath everytime he takes a hit
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 29, 2021 14:31:56 GMT -5
or throws the ball further than 20 yards down field
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Post by ronburgandy on Oct 31, 2021 14:59:48 GMT -5
A lot of expectations for this season are starting to fade away unfortunately.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Oct 31, 2021 15:07:20 GMT -5
I'm sure Jake will be here soon to explain why it was Baker's fault that Landry fumbled and had two big drops that killed the two attempts at a comeback drive.
But anyway, while the defense played well overall (holding a team to 15 should be enough), it was annoying as hell watching them miss so many tackles during PIT's back to back TD drives. Felt like half of their yardage was after contact on those two possessions. Especially doing it after the go ahead score the offense had just put up.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2021 15:17:22 GMT -5
This does get very tiring watching the Browns for 3 hours, And the result is still the same, another loss. We just can not have a game winning drive. The Browns still don't give us nothing to be excited about, We did go from being Bad to Mediocre, Nothing more than that.
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Post by maplecityjake on Oct 31, 2021 15:21:02 GMT -5
I must be getting too predictable, Ha! But, as you guessed it, when it was winning time, Baker didn't deliver.
Browns are in last place because Mayfield is the worst QB I the Division. That's weird given the state Big Ben is in, and Burrow's youth in the NFL. I love me some Lamar
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Post by baldref on Oct 31, 2021 15:24:01 GMT -5
Probably most overrated, overhyped team in football. If indians had the Haslam ownership spending the way they have on these clowns, we'd still be watching baseball today. Does an obviously impaired/injured Mayfield really give you best chance to win? The lost to a team with really no offense and no kicker. What a joke
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2021 15:29:55 GMT -5
Baker Mayfield is a Joke come crunch time. Not all of it, is his fault. But, When we need him, He doesn't get it done.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 31, 2021 19:58:00 GMT -5
I'm sure Jake will be here soon to explain why it was Baker's fault that Landry fumbled and had two big drops that killed the two attempts at a comeback drive. But anyway, while the defense played well overall (holding a team to 15 should be enough), it was annoying as hell watching them miss so many tackles during PIT's back to back TD drives. Felt like half of their yardage was after contact on those two possessions. Especially doing it after the go ahead score the offense had just put up. It was more annoying watching the most penalized team in the NFL. It's time for Stefanski to stop acting like their brother and more like their parole officer.
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Post by buckeyekid on Nov 1, 2021 6:17:06 GMT -5
The difference between winning and losing is soimetimes as easy as catches vs drops. In this one Pitt guy makes the tough catch in the back of the endzone for the TD on 4th and goal. The browns had not one but two drives that could have put us back ahead. Baker put us in position to win but our normally sure handed receiver Landry had a very costly fumble and then a couple drops.
I blame the loss more on injuries than anything else. No Ward No Hunt No Conklin Baker 80% Chubb 80%
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Post by browns624 on Nov 1, 2021 7:09:02 GMT -5
This season is OVER. Sad considering all the talent on this team, no way they should be 4-4. They can probably only afford two more losses this year to make the playoffs and with their schedule and the way they are playing that's not happening. Also, in a horrible spot moving forward what do you do? Baker isn't winning you a SB I believe paying him 35mil+ is foolish, OBJ is definitely gone he isn't worth a bag of chips right now, Defense is still shaky at times even after all that money spent. Do you blow the thing up? Look for QB in draft? or do you try and upgrade the roster? But how do you upgrade it? with all the talent already there?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2021 9:06:31 GMT -5
This season is OVER. Sad considering all the talent on this team, no way they should be 4-4. They can probably only afford two more losses this year to make the playoffs and with their schedule and the way they are playing that's not happening. Also, in a horrible spot moving forward what do you do? Baker isn't winning you a SB I believe paying him 35mil+ is foolish, OBJ is definitely gone he isn't worth a bag of chips right now, Defense is still shaky at times even after all that money spent. Do you blow the thing up? Look for QB in draft? or do you try and upgrade the roster? But how do you upgrade it? with all the talent already there? If/when they get rid of obj that’s $15 mil off the books. The cap is going up, $35 million actually is fairly affordable for a qb. There’s no qb in this coming draft worth anything. Aaron Rodgers isn’t coming here to finish his career. Really in a tough spot. No need to blow it up. What I would recommend is upgrading the receivers and a new scheme on defense. How about play some freaking man-to-man on 3rd down?
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Post by browns624 on Nov 1, 2021 9:33:02 GMT -5
This season is OVER. Sad considering all the talent on this team, no way they should be 4-4. They can probably only afford two more losses this year to make the playoffs and with their schedule and the way they are playing that's not happening. Also, in a horrible spot moving forward what do you do? Baker isn't winning you a SB I believe paying him 35mil+ is foolish, OBJ is definitely gone he isn't worth a bag of chips right now, Defense is still shaky at times even after all that money spent. Do you blow the thing up? Look for QB in draft? or do you try and upgrade the roster? But how do you upgrade it? with all the talent already there? If/when they get rid of obj that’s $15 mil off the books. The cap is going up, $35 million actually is fairly affordable for a qb. There’s no qb in this coming draft worth anything. Aaron Rodgers isn’t coming here to finish his career. Really in a tough spot. No need to blow it up. What I would recommend is upgrading the receivers and a new scheme on defense. How about play some freaking man-to-man on 3rd down? Lots of players I see that are expandable and gone. OBJ gone, Ward gone (Sorry I need you available), Hooper gone, Jarvis? I think he is expandable as well unless he takes a pay cut then I would keep him. If baker is going to eat up that CAP those are players I'm Willing to move off of. I would sign Teller and Clowney to extensions and find a way to keep Hunt after next year.
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Post by browns624 on Nov 1, 2021 9:45:39 GMT -5
And Browns fans won't admit Baker really isn't that great and just a middle-tier QB because most of us Browns fans just live in the standard of "it's better than what we had so it's good enough" Baker isn't winning a SB the proof is in the pudding.
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Post by buckeyekid on Nov 1, 2021 15:36:10 GMT -5
Browns 624 you have some valid points that I agree with. But giving up completely on Mayfield and Ward I don't agree with. If Landry doesn't drop two passes and doesn't fumble---we probably win and we're 5-3 and feeling good.
My point in my post,,Victory in the NFL is in inches and drops vs catches
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Post by jvchesster on Nov 1, 2021 20:18:22 GMT -5
So many browns fans blaming Mayfield. I think it’s ridiculous. 7 drops yesterday. How is that his fault. He’s a solid (above average) at worst qb and that’s enough to win games in the nfl. Last half of the season last year he was rated top 5. He needs help. Look at Buffalo. Their third option receiver is Cole Beasley. He is better than any receiver we have currently. Obj and Landry are done. The best receiver on the roster is peoples jones. It pains me to say that bc of where he went to college but it’s true. Pathetic receivers. Over paid too. Throw in Hooper with Landry and obj and you have a bunch of over paid guys that produce nothing. The offense scheme doesn’t do Baker any favors either. Built for the run. Another thing that is killing them is they don’t play complimentary football. Offense has a good week the defense is terrible and vise versa. Special teams seems to never play well. Huge let down so far but the season is not over and there is plenty of time to turn things around. Only two games behind first place team in the afc.
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Post by browns624 on Nov 2, 2021 12:28:33 GMT -5
Baker is on pace for 12TDs in a 17 games season and not only that the Browns don't have one player on pace for 600 receiving yards that's horrendous. More stats he is 13-7 as a Brown when he attempts under 30 passes and 14-19 when he attempts over 30 passes. He has to have the run game and everything going perfect for him to win because he is average and can't win the games for you like great QBs. This idea that baker doesn't deserve any criticism has to stop. If the hope is to one day have a SB and have SB standards Baker isn't it. If the standard is medocricity and Wild Card berths and not win the division ever Baker is your guy.
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Post by browns624 on Nov 2, 2021 13:43:57 GMT -5
Baker is on pace for 12TDs in a 17 games season and not only that the Browns don't have one player on pace for 600 receiving yards that's horrendous. More stats he is 13-7 as a Brown when he attempts under 30 passes and 14-19 when he attempts over 30 passes. He has to have the run game and everything going perfect for him to win because he is average and can't win the games for you like great QBs. This idea that baker doesn't deserve any criticism has to stop. If the hope is to one day have a SB and have SB standards Baker isn't it. If the standard is medocricity and Wild Card berths and not win the division ever Baker is your guy. And I'm not ready to give up on Baker yet but he is running thin on me I need to see more
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Post by browns624 on Nov 3, 2021 15:13:04 GMT -5
And once again the Browns are a dumpster fire just like that feels like Freddie Kitchens's season all over again. Why are they waiting so long? OBJ should have been cut from the team at 1:00 PM today.
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Post by baldref on Nov 5, 2021 11:10:47 GMT -5
OBJ being released by the clowns
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Post by sweathog on Nov 5, 2021 11:39:51 GMT -5
And once again the Browns are a dumpster fire just like that feels like Freddie Kitchens's season all over again. Why are they waiting so long? OBJ should have been cut from the team at 1:00 PM today. No he should not been released!!! Now the worthless sob can go play with someone else, if they want this a _ _ _ _ _ e !!! Should have keep him and made him clean up locker rooms, but that may not have worked because he may not be smart enough to mop a floor!!!
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Post by browns624 on Nov 5, 2021 12:29:08 GMT -5
OBJ being released by the clowns Right thing to do but whole thing was handled terribly, and then reports came out he asked for a trade in the offseason? Why in the world would the Browns keep him going into the season? First head scratcher of a move I've seen from Andrew Berry. Sunday is a MUST win on all levels if they lose things get real bad.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2021 15:07:22 GMT -5
Mayfield ought to be next. We need a professional quarterback, Not a Developmental league QB.
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Post by purefan on Nov 5, 2021 15:08:11 GMT -5
OBJ being released by the clowns Right thing to do but whole thing was handled terribly, and then reports came out he asked for a trade in the offseason? Why in the world would the Browns keep him going into the season? First head scratcher of a move I've seen from Andrew Berry. Sunday is a MUST win on all levels if they lose things get real bad. I think we see a different team on sunday a d for the rest of year. Obj was and has been a cancer on this team. When they got him i said it would never work. For anyone to say he is not a selfish player is not true. I think someone should make a video of all his drops and not selling out to make catches along with all his half butted route running. He wonders why he didn’t get the ball? Seriously? As far as Baker i’m not convinced he can get us to a sb but he is best qb we have had in i don’t even know how long. At least he embodies the people of cleveland and he wants nothing more than to get W’s. Does he have it in him to lead a championship team? Time will tell.
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Post by browns624 on Nov 5, 2021 15:15:05 GMT -5
Mayfield ought to be next. We need a professional quarterback, Not a Developmental league QB. I'm not sold on Baker at all but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and see how he plays without OBJ. This may be the most important game of Bakers Browns career, he has to prove he can get back to second half last year baker and rally these guys together. The rest of the season will tell all about Baker.
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Post by buckeyekid on Nov 6, 2021 5:21:50 GMT -5
When Hunt comes back, I think you'll see the offense begin to thrive once again.
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Post by browns624 on Nov 7, 2021 9:00:58 GMT -5
When Hunt comes back, I think you'll see the offense begin to thrive once again. Don’t have time for that. Better start thriving now it’s do or die a today.
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Post by clb6110 on Nov 7, 2021 12:31:01 GMT -5
Explain why the release of OBJ was handled terribly? You do realize he was under salary of $15.75 million and coming of a torn ACL.No one in the NFL was going to pick that up and why should the Browns eat the majority of his contract just to trade him for a 4th or 5th round pick. Do you think the Browns should have ate 8-10 mil which essentially was just buying a late round pick? Actually the way the did release him was applauded by most NFL talking heads. Very little chance he gets claimed and will get to chose his destination.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2021 13:03:51 GMT -5
I'd like to get Cody Thompson from Seattle, For Odell Beckham. Give something for us to cheer about, For the Browns.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2021 21:14:07 GMT -5
No OBJ and the Browns looked good. Shocking
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