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Post by usramfan on Apr 18, 2021 14:43:40 GMT -5
I had basketball in mind with this question, but it really could pertain to any sport.
1. Are there any MS or HS programs out there that still make cuts because there's too many kids that want to play the sport?
2. As a coach, have you ever, or would you ever, consider preemptively cutting a kid because you anticipate the kid and/or his or her parents would become difficult, disgruntled, or otherwise make your life difficult if the kid ultimately didn't get the amount of playing time they or their parents felt they deserved or were entitled to?
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Post by dude on Apr 18, 2021 21:54:21 GMT -5
I had basketball in mind with this question, but it really could pertain to any sport. 1. Are there any MS or HS programs out there that still make cuts because there's too many kids that want to play the sport? 2. As a coach, have you ever, or would you ever, consider preemptively cutting a kid because you anticipate the kid and/or his or her parents would become difficult, disgruntled, or otherwise make your life difficult if the kid ultimately didn't get the amount of playing time they or their parents felt they deserved or were entitled to? Are you under the impression that ALL schools keep everyone that tries out for a team? it could be safe to think any average or less than average player could have his parents be included in his evaluation. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Apr 18, 2021 22:45:21 GMT -5
1. Ontario keeps 15 kids on 7th and 8th grade teams after cuts are made. Balogh never had a to cut a 9th, JV or Varsity player. By 9th grade most kids cut themselves when they see they aren't talented enough to be starters or how hard they'd have to work to become a starter. Around here school districts aren't large enough to have to cut kids in any sport.
2. A coach is not worth his salt if he worries about what a parent might think about ANY decision he'd make about his team.
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Post by usramfan on Apr 19, 2021 9:05:28 GMT -5
I had basketball in mind with this question, but it really could pertain to any sport. 1. Are there any MS or HS programs out there that still make cuts because there's too many kids that want to play the sport? 2. As a coach, have you ever, or would you ever, consider preemptively cutting a kid because you anticipate the kid and/or his or her parents would become difficult, disgruntled, or otherwise make your life difficult if the kid ultimately didn't get the amount of playing time they or their parents felt they deserved or were entitled to? it could be safe to think any average or less than average player could have his parents be included in his evaluation. Not at all and I'm not sure what makes you think that I do. However, let's face it - many schools struggle with participation numbers and for a school to make cuts because of higher interest levels doesn't happen very often. |
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Post by mrsteel on Apr 19, 2021 9:14:31 GMT -5
A few schools have “B” teams at the jr high and Jv level for certain sports (baseball). A coach sometimes could keep an extra player. But it doesn’t do you any good keeping a bunch of kids on the bench that will never play. Knowing that, you have done a disservice to the player and their family.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Apr 19, 2021 9:23:41 GMT -5
In baseball there must be "kids on the bench that will never play"....that year. High school baseball traditionally requires a lot of "chatter" coming from the bench. That was my biggest contribution to the team until I was a Senior.  |
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Post by dude on Apr 19, 2021 9:29:08 GMT -5
Are you under the impression that ALL schools keep everyone that tries out for a team?it could be safe to think any average or less than average player could have his parents be included in his evaluation. Not at all and I'm not sure what makes you think that I do. However, let's face it - many schools struggle with participation numbers and for a school to make cuts because of higher interest levels doesn't happen very often. I was asking to understand where your question was coming from. Most school follow the maximum of 15 possible on a roster but many will cut to get down to 10-12 and in JH, I would think many schools in the NCOAST area would have at least that many try out. Some may not. I know there are local JH girls programs that are making cuts every year. |
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Post by usramfan on Apr 19, 2021 17:40:02 GMT -5
Not at all and I'm not sure what makes you think that I do. However, let's face it - many schools struggle with participation numbers and for a school to make cuts because of higher interest levels doesn't happen very often. I was asking to understand where your question was coming from. Most school follow the maximum of 15 possible on a roster but many will cut to get down to 10-12 and in JH, I would think many schools in the NCOAST area would have at least that many try out. Some may not. I know there are local JH girls programs that are making cuts every year. Fair enough. The premise behind my question is just wondering how many schools are ever in a situation where they have enough kids that want to play that they need to make cuts, especially when schools often struggle to get healthy numbers. That's all. We at Upper cap our middle school teams at 12 players each and usually end up needing to cut 1 or 2 players from each team each year. |
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Post by duckdude on Apr 19, 2021 21:45:56 GMT -5
In our district it's not cuts but a conversation that you probably will never play so you sure you want to go out. I think my son reaches that point this year unless a lot changes.
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Post by dude on Apr 20, 2021 12:35:01 GMT -5
I was asking to understand where your question was coming from. Most school follow the maximum of 15 possible on a roster but many will cut to get down to 10-12 and in JH, I would think many schools in the NCOAST area would have at least that many try out. Some may not. I know there are local JH girls programs that are making cuts every year. Fair enough. The premise behind my question is just wondering how many schools are ever in a situation where they have enough kids that want to play that they need to make cuts, especially when schools often struggle to get healthy numbers. That's all. We at Upper cap our middle school teams at 12 players each and usually end up needing to cut 1 or 2 players from each team each year. I think that is still the normal, making a few cuts in the lower levels. there are a few schools that keep everything that comes out but the majority that I hear of are still making some cuts. Some schools I know recently had B teams to deal with the numbers. |
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Post by unc4life on May 17, 2021 14:15:32 GMT -5
I think it basically comes down to the size of school, but I know a lot of programs that just don't have the numbers the used to.
I coached 7th grade a few years back at a big Columbus area school. We had 70 kids show up to try out. What do you do with 70 kids in a gym? We ended up making two rounds of cuts to narrow the field. Now the same school, the 8th grade class only had about 25-30 kids try out, and my guess is it got thinner the higher up you went.
There aren't many sports these days that have cuts. Most find a way to keep the kids that you can, but basketball has its limits, and will probably always have some cuts along the way.
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Post by dude on May 17, 2021 15:26:28 GMT -5
Many schools may always have the most kids trying out in 7th grade. Not many years ago I was told a local school had over 50 7th graders try out but less than 30 for 8th grade.
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