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Post by fbfan on May 30, 2021 9:32:18 GMT -5
That is where the NCC was in it's final years. Two 5 team divisions (large and small) with 3 mandatory crossovers. The small schools didn't like that. Buckeye Central made it to the State Championship game in their division, but still lost 2 of those 3 crossovers, one year. They tried to expand but couldn't find schools needed to do it equally. No schools willing to join the large school division could be found (Willard was one of them at the time). Sound familiar? Ultimately, the small schools found 3 other small schools to form the N10 with. I see the drama continuing, and same future for the SBC if they go to mandatory crossovers. its a league on life support... making a 10 league team and you'll see it explode and quickly.. the problem is its all about football..the other sports are surviving fine.. if we are going to "force " teams to move.. then blow up the river .. and move a couple bays into the lake to get two 8 team leagues.. Could a possible preemptive move by the River schools, a-la the NCC > N10, be in the cards?
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Post by falcon87 on May 30, 2021 9:51:56 GMT -5
The difference between football and all other sports is depth and physical play ends the season for the best players on teams that play only 15 guys all night and the best 3-5 never, NEVER, leave the field. A pounding in basketball, baseball, track, etc does not end in season-ending injuries like it does in football. As bad as Willard was in the River they still had more depth. Injuries occurred for opponents that had the most of the best 10 on the field but had very few in the next 30. I’m sure I’ll hear “toughen up” to which I respond with the reality than more than half the kids on a 30 man roster at small schools are freshman and sophomores. Different worlds from River to Bay/Lake
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Post by sportsvideo on May 30, 2021 10:20:07 GMT -5
The difference between football and all other sports is depth and physical play ends the season for the best players on teams that play only 15 guys all night and the best 3-5 never, NEVER, leave the field. A pounding in basketball, baseball, track, etc does not end in season-ending injuries like it does in football. As bad as Willard was in the River they still had more depth. Injuries occurred for opponents that had the most of the best 10 on the field but had very few in the next 30. I’m sure I’ll hear “toughen up” to which I respond with the reality than more than half the kids on a 30 man roster at small schools are freshman and sophomores. Different worlds from River to Bay/Lake that is correct.. and how many teams cancelled JV games last year? if they even had jv to begin with.
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Post by wallacefan on May 30, 2021 11:12:27 GMT -5
its a league on life support... making a 10 league team and you'll see it explode and quickly.. the problem is its all about football..the other sports are surviving fine.. if we are going to "force " teams to move.. then blow up the river .. and move a couple bays into the lake to get two 8 team leagues.. Could a possible preemptive move by the River schools, a-la the NCC > N10, be in the cards? The River has its own problem in terms of separation. With the “dump SMCC” idea since they can’t keep 11-man football, getting FSJ and Calvert to dump SMCC won’t be all that easy. FSJ loves them and feels they are tied to them historically. They won’t ditch SMCC, even if it is against their own best self interest. Calvert on the other hand, has no such commitment to the Panthers and has shown they would even separate from FSJ in the past. I can guarantee you that Bishop Thomas will be calling from Toledo and demanding the two schools not hang SMCC out to dry. Will be interesting to see what they do. No matter what the Bishop demands, both FSJ and Calvert have been given their own governing boards (like a public school board) to make decisions for their schools as they see fit. What happens in Fremont and Tiffin will determine If the River can break off.
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Post by jafo on May 30, 2021 12:56:42 GMT -5
Won't everyone wait until the N10 officially turns down Willard on June 13th before any decisions are made?
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Post by sbclives on May 30, 2021 15:39:36 GMT -5
Even if the N10 does turn down Willard they will still look to go elsewhere in the future. You think Willard wants to get their heads kicked in every week for football. Doubt it. Let’s say the River breaks off from the SBC and Willard goes with them. The other 4 schools in the Bay will have no choice but to be absorbed into the Lake. Those 4 schools will love that.
There’s also no way that Lakota or Margaretta will come up to the Bay either and be a punching bag for those schools. Also the gates would be terrible with Lakota. Vermilion, Huron and Edison are looking at about 2 hour round trips for games with Lakota.
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Post by shelbyrr11 on May 30, 2021 16:43:50 GMT -5
Goodness this is inspiring me to put out my pamphlets for my envisioned Richland County League - Part 2. Say what you will about Shelby leaving the SBC, but I'm positive the potential for uncertainties like this one played a role. It was hard enough to have the cultural washing away of the NOL, but it especially hurt to stop playing Bellevue, Norwalk, & Tiffin in return for longer drives against less compelling opponents for Shelby (eh, solely in football, I digress). If I'm in the SBC, I cut my losses. How exactly is the Lake division doing any better by being associated with the Bay and River at this point? Even with an imperfect 6 team total, it seems like a truly cohesive unit (and a reason why Shelby didn't want be in the Bay division). If the SBC tries to grow, the list of schools provided by 2112 are indicative of some of the short-sightedness of their planning from the beginning. The SBC knew exactly who was nearby when the re-formed. It wasn't like they had visions of going 60+ minutes for road trips. A conference with roots in allowing teams favors to avoid competition stood no chance of binding those same teams to less favorable settings. As Dude mentioned, the Columbus OCC functions much better, perhaps under the guise of trying to allocate the shifting growth patterns of the city as opposed to playing match-maker in the SBC. Heck, Pick Central plays Groveport-Madison and some other abominable program in their division all the time. You can't even strong-arm Bay teams to play Lake teams. ahh but Shelby wanted to be in the Bay division for football, in fact, they pushed for it. I believe it. Here's how I justify it. First and foremost: Shelby was parking their car until a better spot opened (OCC/MOAC/any other Richland area creation). Long-term, the program was going through a flash in the pan when the new SBC came to be. No reason to suspect it could maintain, especially after a recent 5-35 stretch (before Armstrong's sophomore year) & the way we struggled to beat Willard. Shelby joined the SBC coming off a 5-5 season, and I don't think anyone was aware that Shorty, Brooks, Hill, and Armstrong would snap off an 11-2 season in their last NOL year (at which point the divisional commitments should have been solidified, if I understand right). I would have never dreamed of going to 3 regional finals in 5 years prior to 2015-2016. However, I don't think anyone was neglecting the recent successes of other local leagues instilling a tiered divisional system. The NCC blew up. The NEO in the Cleveland suburbs had recently torpedo'd. The ECOL was in the midst of a failing divisional system. I do have gaps in my knowledge as far as where Shelby fell into the Bay conference. It was known that Shelby was aiming to be a hook-up, a one-night stand. It would have been more tenuous, in my opinion, had Shelby bumped Bellevue/Perkins/Clyde from the Lake despite pretty clear intentions of leaving. If it were Bellevue in the Bay division during 2017-2018, would the SBC be happier? Nobody in the Bay was/is fond of playing Bellevue. Additionally, I think opinions with the community were immediately solidified, which definitely made the move to the MOAC desired, despite the new critiques of league strength. Nobody in the stands liked playing the Bay teams. If it was going to be a possibility, continually, that we could be bumped down there based on enrollment (and we are a fringe Lake/Bay team on that basis) then I would bet Shelby was unpleased with that notion. We were just in a league for 70+ years. And you are going to shift our divisions continually since we are right on that dividing line? That's a tough sell for a long-term arrangement. We can handle the Bay for two years. But for long-term uncertainty? That's not good business for any industry.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2021 20:52:57 GMT -5
The principals I believe make these decisions not the AD's. So is the league set up to help struggling programs then? If so why not move struggling basketball programs around or baseball or softball? Look even with mandatory crossovers as King suggested it will still be Bay teams looking to avoid tiffin, Bellevue, and Clyde. Lake should hold firm at 6. I'd hardly say 5 teams is a league. other sports have more "wiggle room" basketball you can play 22 games football you are at 10.. and no you can't avoid the cross over, because it is mandatory and rotated.. yes you'll get your butt kicked if you're weak program a couple times a year.. there isn't going to be a perfect science to this.. i get that and so does everyone else...but a 10 team league has no wiggle room for football... Also I am pretty sure the principals get feed back from their AD and coaches before making a move.. honestly... I just want to hear Huron fans admit they don't wanna play all 6 Lake teams every year. The WBL is a 10 team league, and one of the best mid to small school leagues in Ohio. So why can't it work for the SBC? Its because there are some soft schools in terms of football. If Perkins goes to the Bay, and they dominate Huron, Edison, and Vermilion, they will want them out ASAP. It will be a vicious cycle.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2021 21:01:18 GMT -5
ahh but Shelby wanted to be in the Bay division for football, in fact, they pushed for it. I believe it. Here's how I justify it. First and foremost: Shelby was parking their car until a better spot opened (OCC/MOAC/any other Richland area creation). Long-term, the program was going through a flash in the pan when the new SBC came to be. No reason to suspect it could maintain, especially after a recent 5-35 stretch (before Armstrong's sophomore year) & the way we struggled to beat Willard. Shelby joined the SBC coming off a 5-5 season, and I don't think anyone was aware that Shorty, Brooks, Hill, and Armstrong would snap off an 11-2 season in their last NOL year (at which point the divisional commitments should have been solidified, if I understand right). I would have never dreamed of going to 3 regional finals in 5 years prior to 2015-2016. However, I don't think anyone was neglecting the recent successes of other local leagues instilling a tiered divisional system. The NCC blew up. The NEO in the Cleveland suburbs had recently torpedo'd. The ECOL was in the midst of a failing divisional system. I do have gaps in my knowledge as far as where Shelby fell into the Bay conference. It was known that Shelby was aiming to be a hook-up, a one-night stand. It would have been more tenuous, in my opinion, had Shelby bumped Bellevue/Perkins/Clyde from the Lake despite pretty clear intentions of leaving. If it were Bellevue in the Bay division during 2017-2018, would the SBC be happier? Nobody in the Bay was/is fond of playing Bellevue. Additionally, I think opinions with the community were immediately solidified, which definitely made the move to the MOAC desired, despite the new critiques of league strength. Nobody in the stands liked playing the Bay teams. If it was going to be a possibility, continually, that we could be bumped down there based on enrollment (and we are a fringe Lake/Bay team on that basis) then I would bet Shelby was unpleased with that notion. We were just in a league for 70+ years. And you are going to shift our divisions continually since we are right on that dividing line? That's a tough sell for a long-term arrangement. We can handle the Bay for two years. But for long-term uncertainty? That's not good business for any industry. you might be the only person who didn't think that that class would win a ton of games. everyone knew it. With a power 5 QB and a nice supporting cast, they were going to win plenty of games. I know that they did not think they could compete in the Lake, and wanted the Bay for football. Also, its the SBC's fault for letting them hold them hostage to demands if they knew they were going to look elsewhere ASAP. I also don't blame them for going to the MOAC. The SBC is on the verge of implosion. The discussion of a football only conference probably needs to take place. I don't know if anyone else has ever done that offhand, but it might be worth a discussion
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Post by richrod on May 30, 2021 21:12:12 GMT -5
The SBC sounds like a mess. Sounds like its a few years from implosion. There has to be some backroom discussions on new league formations somewhere
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Post by sportsvideo on May 30, 2021 21:27:52 GMT -5
other sports have more "wiggle room" basketball you can play 22 games football you are at 10.. and no you can't avoid the cross over, because it is mandatory and rotated.. yes you'll get your butt kicked if you're weak program a couple times a year.. there isn't going to be a perfect science to this.. i get that and so does everyone else...but a 10 team league has no wiggle room for football... Also I am pretty sure the principals get feed back from their AD and coaches before making a move.. honestly... I just want to hear Huron fans admit they don't wanna play all 6 Lake teams every year. The WBL is a 10 team league, and one of the best mid to small school leagues in Ohio. So why can't it work for the SBC? Its because there are some soft schools in terms of football. If Perkins goes to the Bay, and they dominate Huron, Edison, and Vermilion, they will want them out ASAP. It will be a vicious cycle. i'll play all 6 lake teams.. i dont want a 10 team league I'll take an 8
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Post by shelbyrr11 on May 30, 2021 21:33:28 GMT -5
I believe it. Here's how I justify it. First and foremost: Shelby was parking their car until a better spot opened (OCC/MOAC/any other Richland area creation). Long-term, the program was going through a flash in the pan when the new SBC came to be. No reason to suspect it could maintain, especially after a recent 5-35 stretch (before Armstrong's sophomore year) & the way we struggled to beat Willard. Shelby joined the SBC coming off a 5-5 season, and I don't think anyone was aware that Shorty, Brooks, Hill, and Armstrong would snap off an 11-2 season in their last NOL year (at which point the divisional commitments should have been solidified, if I understand right). I would have never dreamed of going to 3 regional finals in 5 years prior to 2015-2016. However, I don't think anyone was neglecting the recent successes of other local leagues instilling a tiered divisional system. The NCC blew up. The NEO in the Cleveland suburbs had recently torpedo'd. The ECOL was in the midst of a failing divisional system. I do have gaps in my knowledge as far as where Shelby fell into the Bay conference. It was known that Shelby was aiming to be a hook-up, a one-night stand. It would have been more tenuous, in my opinion, had Shelby bumped Bellevue/Perkins/Clyde from the Lake despite pretty clear intentions of leaving. If it were Bellevue in the Bay division during 2017-2018, would the SBC be happier? Nobody in the Bay was/is fond of playing Bellevue. Additionally, I think opinions with the community were immediately solidified, which definitely made the move to the MOAC desired, despite the new critiques of league strength. Nobody in the stands liked playing the Bay teams. If it was going to be a possibility, continually, that we could be bumped down there based on enrollment (and we are a fringe Lake/Bay team on that basis) then I would bet Shelby was unpleased with that notion. We were just in a league for 70+ years. And you are going to shift our divisions continually since we are right on that dividing line? That's a tough sell for a long-term arrangement. We can handle the Bay for two years. But for long-term uncertainty? That's not good business for any industry. you might be the only person who didn't think that that class would win a ton of games. everyone knew it. With a power 5 QB and a nice supporting cast, they were going to win plenty of games. I know that they did not think they could compete in the Lake, and wanted the Bay for football. If I am the only one who didn't think they would win games, then how did the administration similarly think they couldn't compete in the Lake? They must've aligned with my statements or chose to appease Bellevue/Perkins/Clyde during a short-term lease (or both). Did you think Shelby would be close to 11-2 and 13-1, losing close to Steubenville twice on their run to back-to-back finals appearances in the midst of their most recent dynasty run, after Brennan Armstrong went 2-8 as a freshman & 5-5 as a sophomore (and went 3-27 the previous three seasons)? That was when Shelby had to commit. Quite frankly, our area hadn't seen a two-year stretch like that by any team in a long time. Haven't since. Completely rational to think it would be over in two years and similarly be in a new conference (arguably true, depending on if Shelby falls off this year). Hell, we led the entire state in margin of victory, all divisions, in 2017. No one saw us being so good we were ranked #1 in scoring margin differential out of 700+ schools. If you did, I also want to see which ETFs and Mutual Funds you hold. Also, its the SBC's fault for letting them hold them hostage to demands if they knew they were going to look elsewhere ASAP. I also don't blame them for going to the MOAC. The SBC is on the verge of implosion. Total agreement here. I do sincerely believe the admins at Bellevue, Norwalk, and Tiffin felt an obligation to assist Shelby in bringing them to the SBC, if not just to give us a schedule for a few years. After 70+ years, I find this believable.The discussion of a football only conference probably needs to take place. I don't know if anyone else has ever done that offhand, but it might be worth a discussion. Also complete agreement here. It always seemed like a tangible solution for schools like Vermilion that were bad at football and reasonable in everything else. But that's hinting at the chaos that created the current SBC, trying to make everybody have their lunch and eat it.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2021 22:13:52 GMT -5
you might be the only person who didn't think that that class would win a ton of games. everyone knew it. With a power 5 QB and a nice supporting cast, they were going to win plenty of games. I know that they did not think they could compete in the Lake, and wanted the Bay for football. If I am the only one who didn't think they would win games, then how did the administration similarly think they couldn't compete in the Lake? They must've aligned with my statements or chose to appease Bellevue/Perkins/Clyde during a short-term lease (or both). Did you think Shelby would be close to 11-2 and 13-1, losing close to Steubenville twice on their run to back-to-back finals appearances in the midst of their most recent dynasty run, after Brennan Armstrong went 2-8 as a freshman & 5-5 as a sophomore (and went 3-27 the previous three seasons)? That was when Shelby had to commit. Quite frankly, our area hadn't seen a two-year stretch like that by any team in a long time. Haven't since. Completely rational to think it would be over in two years and similarly be in a new conference (arguably true, depending on if Shelby falls off this year). Hell, we led the entire state in margin of victory, all divisions, in 2017. No one saw us being so good we were ranked #1 in scoring margin differential out of 700+ schools. If you did, I also want to see which ETFs and Mutual Funds you hold. Also, its the SBC's fault for letting them hold them hostage to demands if they knew they were going to look elsewhere ASAP. I also don't blame them for going to the MOAC. The SBC is on the verge of implosion. Total agreement here. I do sincerely believe the admins at Bellevue, Norwalk, and Tiffin felt an obligation to assist Shelby in bringing them to the SBC, if not just to give us a schedule for a few years. After 70+ years, I find this believable.The discussion of a football only conference probably needs to take place. I don't know if anyone else has ever done that offhand, but it might be worth a discussion. Also complete agreement here. It always seemed like a tangible solution for schools like Vermilion that were bad at football and reasonable in everything else. But that's hinting at the chaos that created the current SBC, trying to make everybody have their lunch and eat it.Yes I did, and they wanted to win a league title, that was driving force. Get off your analytics man, anyone who knew football and watched them coming up knew they had the talent to win the NOL and Compete in the Lake. When you have a power 5 QB you have great chances in division 4. You can PM me if you want to know more I'm not gunna sit here and get you all giddy about mutual funds now too haha
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Post by 2112 on May 30, 2021 22:55:57 GMT -5
i'll play all 6 lake teams.. i dont want a 10 team league I'll take an 8 Agreed. I'm also a Huron alum and fan and wouldn't have any problem playing the 6 Lake teams. We did our fair share of damage to them long before the Lake-Bay-River alignment. Also... I'm not seeing the big problem of a 10-team division. The MAC has 10 football schools and 1 non-football school, their enrollment spans three divisions as well, and they seem quite stable. Each football school only plays 8 conference games each year. I'm not sure how they decide the off match-ups. If our schools are concerned about playing too many bigs or they want more variety in the schedules year-to-year, there's no reason they couldn't also do something creative. Maybe each school just moves through the list and starts over at the top every 9 years. Or maybe for this year, last year's #1 doesn't play last year's last year's #10, and last year's #2 doesn't play last year's #9, and so on. Or whatever. The point is, it's not like a 10-team league is new territory. And there's no-reason they couldn't have non-football members (like the MAC). This could be especially attractive for a Margaretta for travel reasons. And if nobody was concerned about playing too many bigs, they'd just have 1 OOC game to schedule... which ideally would be in the week 1.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2021 23:25:45 GMT -5
i'll play all 6 lake teams.. i dont want a 10 team league I'll take an 8 Agreed. I'm also a Huron alum and fan and wouldn't have any problem playing the 6 Lake teams. We did our fair share of damage to them long before the Lake-Bay-River alignment. Also... I'm not seeing the big problem of a 10-team division. The MAC has 10 football schools and 1 non-football school, their enrollment spans three divisions as well, and they seem quite stable. Each football school only plays 8 conference games each year. I'm not sure how they decide the off match-ups. If our schools are concerned about playing too many bigs or they want more variety in the schedules year-to-year, there's no reason they couldn't also do something creative. Maybe each school just moves through the list and starts over at the top every 9 years. Or maybe for this year, last year's #1 doesn't play last year's last year's #10, and last year's #2 doesn't play last year's #9, and so on. Or whatever. The point is, it's not like a 10-team league is new territory. And there's no-reason they couldn't have non-football members (like the MAC). This could be especially attractive for a Margaretta for travel reasons. And if nobody was concerned about playing too many bigs, they'd just have 1 OOC game to schedule... which ideally would be in the week 1. i like it, with some out of the box thinking too. The best part of all this, the league structure seems to work for all other sports. Football is the outlier.
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Post by sbclives on May 31, 2021 1:12:51 GMT -5
I’m a Huron alum and fan and I think the old school mentality was let’s play anyone. I don’t think that’s the current mentality of Huron football. The days of Tony Legando, Greg Cobb, Jim Fisher, Robert Dence and Cody Thompson are long gone. I honestly don’t think Huron or Vermilion or Edison would have much success against the Lake schools. At this point there’s almost no way to even form an 8 team league without leaving someone hanging.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2021 6:37:08 GMT -5
I'd like to know why Oak Harbor was unhappy about being in the SBC & Bay Leaugue. They were the furthest West school, Now they'll be the furthest East, in their new league. I wonder how well thought out this decision was, Or did they just act on a Whim. Good luck, And just remember, The grass is Never greener on the other side of the fence. The Rockets should be able to fill their football Non Conference schedule now rather easy with minimal travel, Unless there's hard feelings with the SBC, for some ridiculous reason.
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Post by litebrite on May 31, 2021 8:02:23 GMT -5
I'd like to know why Oak Harbor was unhappy about being in the SBC & Bay Leaugue. They were the furthest West school, Now they'll be the furthest East, in their new league. I wonder how well thought out this decision was, Or did they just act on a Whim. Good luck, And just remember, The grass is Never greener on the other side of the fence. The Rockets should be able to fill their football Non Conference schedule now rather easy with minimal travel, Unless there's hard feelings with the SBC, for some ridiculous reason. Going to Eastwood, Lake, and Genoa sure beats going to Willard, Edison, and Huron. Though now OH will have to travel to Maumee, Fostoria, and Otsego which are long but at least they have some closer opponents. From what I have gathered Oak Harbor was looking to get out and other schools weren't necessarily going to stand in their way.
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Post by sportsvideo on Jun 2, 2021 11:33:35 GMT -5
I'd like to know why Oak Harbor was unhappy about being in the SBC & Bay Leaugue. They were the furthest West school, Now they'll be the furthest East, in their new league. I wonder how well thought out this decision was, Or did they just act on a Whim. Good luck, And just remember, The grass is Never greener on the other side of the fence. The Rockets should be able to fill their football Non Conference schedule now rather easy with minimal travel, Unless there's hard feelings with the SBC, for some ridiculous reason. Going to Eastwood, Lake, and Genoa sure beats going to Willard, Edison, and Huron. Though now OH will have to travel to Maumee, Fostoria, and Otsego which are long but at least they have some closer opponents. From what I have gathered Oak Harbor was looking to get out and other schools weren't necessarily going to stand in their way. wonder what they will do about swimming? since now they don't have that league ..
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Post by kingmartinez on Jun 2, 2021 17:07:45 GMT -5
I'd like to know why Oak Harbor was unhappy about being in the SBC & Bay Leaugue. They were the furthest West school, Now they'll be the furthest East, in their new league. I wonder how well thought out this decision was, Or did they just act on a Whim. Good luck, And just remember, The grass is Never greener on the other side of the fence. The Rockets should be able to fill their football Non Conference schedule now rather easy with minimal travel, Unless there's hard feelings with the SBC, for some ridiculous reason. Proximity doesn't hurt and probably initiates the idea but the main reason is stability, or perception of stability. When Willard started making it known they want to be in the River or risk dropping to 8-man then pursuing the N10, Oak Harbor got really concerned about how things could end up. When there was a solid opportunity interested in them and that opportunity would put them in a 8-team league, it became more and more viable. They went through the process (surveys, community discussions, etc.) under the premise of "what if the Willard...what if the Bay...". That was pretty much the nail, IMO. I didn't think they'd do it and they tried to prolong things but the NBC said "make your mind up already" and that's what expedited things. Oak Harbor was one of the schools, along with Margaretta and Edison who always wanted their cake and to eat it too in the area shuffle. Willard has been that school on the NOL side. There isn't much sorrow for however things end up for those schools, from what I gather.
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Post by falcon87 on Jun 2, 2021 19:53:51 GMT -5
Since we live in these times of re-arranging the league/conference world I'll float two ideas for the NBC to make Oak Harbor's move more desirable. Replace Fostoria with Port Clinton and replace Otsego with Bowling Green. Based on the future of the Bay this may become the best option for PC. Geographically this tightens the league up with a lot of border rivalries. The NLL may be no longer be a good home for BG either.
For sports such as tennis, swimming and soccer Eastwood, Bowling Green, Maumee, and Rossford to the west with Oak Harbor, Port Clinton, Genoa and Lake to the east creates many common geography and competition bonds.
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Post by sbclives on Jun 20, 2021 22:47:44 GMT -5
Just read on another site from a more reliable poster that there is a school to the east rumored to be the next NLL school. The school that person hinted at was Tiffin Columbian. Just wondered if anyone else has heard this cause if there’s any truth to it then I think I see what’s going to happen with the SBC.
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Post by runawaytrain on Jun 21, 2021 6:28:14 GMT -5
Just read on another site from a more reliable poster that there is a school to the east rumored to be the next NLL school. The school that person hinted at was Tiffin Columbian. Just wondered if anyone else has heard this cause if there’s any truth to it then I think I see what’s going to happen with the SBC. I think the hint was more Sandusky
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2021 9:50:22 GMT -5
Just read on another site from a more reliable poster that there is a school to the east rumored to be the next NLL school. The school that person hinted at was Tiffin Columbian. Just wondered if anyone else has heard this cause if there’s any truth to it then I think I see what’s going to happen with the SBC. What's the other site?
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Post by edchambers on Jun 21, 2021 10:13:44 GMT -5
Just read on another site from a more reliable poster that there is a school to the east rumored to be the next NLL school. The school that person hinted at was Tiffin Columbian. Just wondered if anyone else has heard this cause if there’s any truth to it then I think I see what’s going to happen with the SBC. What's the other site? Yappi
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Post by sbclives on Jun 21, 2021 11:59:16 GMT -5
Let’s say this rumored school is Sandusky. That would leave 10 total teams left in the SBC.
Tiffin Columbian Norwalk Bellevue Clyde Perkins Vermilion Port Clinton Huron Edison Willard
In my opinion this divisions thing hasn’t worked and needs to end and soon. IMO no way would Willard or Edison want any part of that league. Maybe Edison would look to join up with the River at this point? Willard could go their own way.
How about this for the new SBC
TC Bellevue Clyde Norwalk Perkins Vermilion Port Clinton Huron
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Post by falcon87 on Jun 21, 2021 12:33:46 GMT -5
If big schools leave, little schools stay and then SBC goes back to its roots as a small school league.
Can’t believe suburban Toledo schools will enjoy travel to Tiffin or Sandusky, the NLL “was” a tight footprint for a reason. Even east side Oregon Clay was too far at one point
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Post by crimsonblooded on Jun 21, 2021 15:46:01 GMT -5
Let’s say this rumored school is Sandusky. That would leave 10 total teams left in the SBC. Tiffin Columbian Norwalk Bellevue Clyde Perkins Vermilion Port Clinton Huron Edison Willard In my opinion this divisions thing hasn’t worked and needs to end and soon. IMO no way would Willard or Edison want any part of that league. Maybe Edison would look to join up with the River at this point? Willard could go their own way. How about this for the new SBC TC Bellevue Clyde Norwalk Perkins Vermilion Port Clinton Huron Willard can go their own way? their own way has been trying to get in the River!
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Post by sbclives on Jun 21, 2021 16:06:25 GMT -5
The River or N-10 would be good landing spots for Willard. Travel in the River would be a little rough for Willard though.
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Post by crimsonblooded on Jun 21, 2021 17:17:46 GMT -5
The River or N-10 would be good landing spots for Willard. Travel in the River would be a little rough for Willard though. True, but it is pretty well known (unofficially) Willard isn’t getting in the N10
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