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Post by sweathog on Jun 28, 2021 13:04:50 GMT -5
North Carolina State out because of covid 19!!! Had to forfeit game!!
This is total garbage, yes some tested positive.
Were they sick, not to my understanding.
When is country going to wake up, just because you test positive, don't mean you will get sick
This whole deal is bull,
We listen to some IDIOT by the name of Fauci. How much money is he making off this?
Come on, wake up America
Also DeWine is trying to make it mandatory that student have to have 19 shot to play sports!!!
You can stick that where the sun do shine, Dewinnie!!
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Post by sportsjock on Jun 28, 2021 14:59:52 GMT -5
It amazes me there are still teams not getting fully vaccinated. It's so easily available, there is no excuse.
This all could have been so unecessary.
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Post by dude on Jun 28, 2021 15:07:34 GMT -5
It amazes me there are still people testing.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jun 28, 2021 16:20:26 GMT -5
It amazes me there are still teams not getting fully vaccinated. It's so easily available, there is no excuse. This all could have been so unecessary. What amazes me, is those that are fully vaccinated don't need protected and those who are not vaccinated don't want to be protected, so why bother. Then there are those of sweathog's ilk, who don't care if they die. |
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Post by clb6110 on Jun 28, 2021 17:30:10 GMT -5
I know of a couple from my church,he actually built my house so I know him really well, that both had the Moderna vaccine a few months ago and both got the Delta variant about 2 weeks ago.Both recovering now. He was pretty sick,said he felt like the worse flu he's ever had. His wife was also sick but not as bad. Just exhausted and very achy.Point is that while I'm fully vaccinated I'm not comfortable 100% yet with big crowds and things.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jun 28, 2021 19:13:40 GMT -5
Then you will never be comfortable. As of now there is no 100% cure, this virus will always be around. 5% who have had the Moderna vaccine can still get sick, but not nearly as sick if they had not been vaccinated. If your friends had not been vaccinated they would have been in a hospital on a ventilator. You can also die from the flu.
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Post by dude on Jun 29, 2021 4:33:48 GMT -5
I know of a couple from my church,he actually built my house so I know him really well, that both had the Moderna vaccine a few months ago and both got the Delta variant about 2 weeks ago.Both recovering now. He was pretty sick,said he felt like the worse flu he's ever had. His wife was also sick but not as bad. Just exhausted and very achy.Point is that while I'm fully vaccinated I'm not comfortable 100% yet with big crowds and things. In my reality, the risk of sickness and even death has been around always. This has not changed for me and my family in the last 20 months. |
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Post by sweathog on Jun 29, 2021 11:54:13 GMT -5
Okay people the shot is NOT FDA approved!!
Its not proven it will even help!
I know a lot of people that have not taken the shot!
I know people in the medical profession that have not taken the shot!!
Its all government control!!!
Biden , Pelosi and all you people that back them, you can stick it where the sun don't shine!!
And back to North Carolina State, you got screwed big time!!!
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Post by clb6110 on Jun 29, 2021 18:30:41 GMT -5
Haha Fool. If you think the vaccine wasn't approved you're nutso. It's 30-35 year data/research that's been around longer than you've probably been alive.I'm not saying it's 100% effective from getting sick but it's pretty effective from dying if you do get covid. Let me ask you this...If there was a vaccine out there that was 95% effective from the common winter head cold would you take it? The common head cold is a pain in the a** and not very deadly and I'd take that vaccine yesterday. I'm not afraid of covid because I'm vaccinated but why dick around and test fate? In the last 2 weeks over 30 from my church are ++ and at least 5 are in the hospital.I'll do Indians,HS FB etc but things like a concert at Quicken Loans I'll pass on for awhile. My choice Your choice to each their own. BTW You are right NC State and Jon Rahm got screwed.Real simple solution.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jun 29, 2021 18:33:28 GMT -5
Okay people the shot is NOT FDA approved!! Its not proven it will even help! I know a lot of people that have not taken the shot! I know people in the medical profession that have not taken the shot!! Its all government control!!! Biden , Pelosi and all you people that back them, you can stick it where the sun don't shine!! And back to North Carolina State, you got screwed big time!!! Further proof of your ignorance and I'm a staunch Republican. I have made a small fortune investing in small biotech companies and am well versed in how the FDA approval process works. Tracking that is part of how I made my money. You are clueless in this regard as in many others. Even President Trump was vaccinated and he told the country to get vaccinated. Republicans, including Trumpites, do not need dolts like you. I would die fighting for you right NOT to get vaccinated, how about showing just as much respect for those that chose to get vaccinated. Instead of sounding as stupid on the other end of the spectrum that AOC and her crowd does. |
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Post by sweathog on Jul 1, 2021 12:46:40 GMT -5
Don't give a damn on your investing or what you think of me, Fillmore!!
I won't say what I think of you!
You may die in an auto accident, you going to stop driving?
You test positive for 19, does not mean you will get sick!
Shot does not mean and has not been proven it will help!!
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jul 1, 2021 21:20:24 GMT -5
Due to what I invest in I know WAY WAY more about how the FDA works than you.....you Sweaty Pig!!
I almost did die in a car accident, but was saved by an angel. You may die chocking on a piece of pizza.
TODAY the only reason people get tested for 19 is because they ARE sick with the symptoms of Covid and want to know if they have it or not. IF they go to a Dr. or hospital with the symptoms, they WIIL be tested whether they want to be or not. You are living SOO far in the past on THE virus.
Allow me to educate you on how the FDA works, when it comes to new drugs. Biotech Companies go through Phase I Trials, Phase II Trials and Phase III Trials on new drugs, before their new drug is approved. It is a LONG process and costs 10's of millions along the way. A company must pay the FDA close to a million up front, just to start the paperwork before Phase I. The biggest reason it takes such a long time to go through the process is there are so many new drugs going through trials, that all companies spend a lot of time waiting in line for approvals on the different Phases.
In the case of Covid vaccines there was no waiting in line, after Phase I and Phase II, they were sent to the head of the line instead of waiting. There is an independent agency that monitors Phase III Trials. If along the way in a Phase III Trial this agency sees excellent results with little or no side affects and the drug is for an extreme need, this agency will tell the FDA about the results and the new drug will be given an Emergency Use Authorization by the FDA, which means this new drug can be used before the Phase III trial is completed. THAT is what happened in the case of Moderna, Pfizer and J&J.
You are showing your complete ignorance when you say "Shot does not mean and has not been proven it will help". During Phase III Trials people were given the drugs and were exposed to the virus and 95% had no symptoms, the other 5% had minor symptoms, no one died. MUCH better than the general populous that was infected before the vaccines.
AGAIN you have every right not to be vaccinated and I would die fighting for you to have that right. All I ask is you not be such an jerkwad and have the same respect for those who chose to be vaccinated.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jul 2, 2021 18:55:43 GMT -5
An interesting nugget I heard on The Five. Almost every Covid patient NOW in the hospital was NOT vaccinated. Sure sounds like "shot" works. HOWEVER hog, I still do not care if you or those of your ilk choose not to get vaccinated. It is your right. With that being said, those who are vaccinated are picking up the hospital tab for those who aren't. You're welcome.
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Jul 2, 2021 19:40:32 GMT -5
Hog, we are all vaccinated. This crusade is a losing effort.
Let's try this.
The Wall Street Journal has regularly reported on the efficacy and approval process of each vaccine.
WSJ is owned by News Corp, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch, who is better known as the founder of Fox News. If the WSJ supports it, by proxy it would imply the right-leaning News Corp would support it. News Corp once donated $1M to the Republicans Governors Association. Unless we are to believe the WSJ has a set of writers who have gone rogue and an entire media empire hasn't found a way to stop them for the past six months.
If Fox News and the WSJ is too mainstream, I would be curious as to how you vet your sources to be sure they are not being influenced by Russia's IRA, their other uncovered disinformation hacking groups, or other Chinese propaganda outlets. They have shown a desire to destabilize our country by manipulating people with fake accounts, fake "people", and deliberately bad arguments to incite anger. They have posed as authentic Republican online groups before, as they have posed as Democratic.
If I were one of those nations, I would relish being able to hinder the recovery of our country by infiltrating our media with easy-to-consume, anger-inducing, and rapid content. Memes, screenshots from Facebook arguments, and all sorts of items that can be easily photoshopped.
My favorite news source is supported by institutions and a strict policy for editorial excellence. The Wall Street Journal will remove you from their payroll if you accumulate three typos over a set period of time. I know this because I've spoken to a WSJ director. Do your news sources promote a similar level of stringency?
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Post by dude on Jul 6, 2021 6:37:19 GMT -5
It's probably okay to make the claim that everyone knows someone who is vaccinated and some who are not. Safe to say that everyone knows someone who has tested positive but did not been sick, someone who tested positive but did get sick and someone who tested positive that is no longer with us. It is also likely we all at some time have spoken to a medical professional that is for and against the vaccine. I say make your own choices and let others do the same. My whole house tested positive, everyone is fine. I got the shot for my job, no one else in my house did and I'm okay with that.
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