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Post by Birdman on Nov 20, 2021 18:17:08 GMT -5
Well that time of the year is here. What do we all think?
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Post by ronburgandy on Nov 20, 2021 18:23:16 GMT -5
Well that time of the year is here. What do we all think? Our offense is just too good and clicking right now, their defense won’t be able to stop it enough times. I think they’ll score more than Michigan St did.
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Post by redskinfan04 on Nov 20, 2021 19:42:27 GMT -5
Well that time of the year is here. What do we all think? Our offense is just too good and clicking right now, their defense won’t be able to stop it enough times. I think they’ll score more than Michigan St did. For Michigan to win they’ll need Hutchinson and Ojabo to disrupt the passing game. If they put enough hits on Stroud I think his level of play starts to fall off. Can Michigan’s offense conjure up the 35 or so points I think they need to win the game? I’m doubtful.
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Post by DrTorch on Nov 20, 2021 19:43:55 GMT -5
Their d line is legit and an area of concern. Also the game is in Michigan. This isn't a slam dunk game.
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Post by redskinfan04 on Nov 20, 2021 20:18:07 GMT -5
Their d line is legit and an area of concern. Also the game is in Michigan. This isn't a slam dunk game. Don’t worry the big house will be half full of red like it is every other time. Something that struck me today while watching OSU play is that I think they’ve peaked out. I don’t see where they have much more room for significant improvement. Michigan on the other hand still has another gear they haven’t reached yet imo.
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Post by Birdman on Nov 20, 2021 20:57:12 GMT -5
I wouldn’t say Ohio State has “peaked” by any means. They’re clicking on almost all cylinders. To me IMO they are just too much to handle and far to talented for TTUN to compensate for. This will be close for a little and I do believe the Buckeyes pull out a throttling. One thing This new era of Buckeyes have done is not overlook the Maze and Poo. They will be ready and have been all year to dismantle any kind of positive vibes they thought they had.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 20, 2021 23:58:08 GMT -5
Their d line is legit and an area of concern. Also the game is in Michigan. This isn't a slam dunk game. Don’t worry the big house will be half full of red like it is every other time. Something that struck me today while watching OSU play is that I think they’ve peaked out. I don’t see where they have much more room for significant improvement. Michigan on the other hand still has another gear they haven’t reached yet imo. If U of M finds another gear it would be 2nd gear to Ohio State's current over drive. U of M will never have anything close to Ohio State's passing attack. Harbaugh is adamantly opposed to throwing the ball unless he has to.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 21, 2021 0:05:07 GMT -5
Their d line is legit and an area of concern. Also the game is in Michigan. This isn't a slam dunk game. Run the ball at 'em. MSU had 200 yards rushing against U of M.
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Post by Birdman on Nov 21, 2021 9:16:16 GMT -5
Their d line is legit and an area of concern. Also the game is in Michigan. This isn't a slam dunk game. Run the ball at 'em. MSU had 200 yards rushing against U of M. with a steady diet of both (haha duh every game plan known to man) Buckeyes will roll. What’s intriguing is can Michigan’s secondary keep track of the seemingly 4-6 depth on the WR core.
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Post by wetsu on Nov 21, 2021 10:34:40 GMT -5
Their d line is legit and an area of concern. Also the game is in Michigan. This isn't a slam dunk game. It seems as though if there was going to be a year when Michigan could pull it off it would be this year and that notion is probably not lost on the team and staff. Hopefully Harbaugh's sphincter tightens up like usual.
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Post by redskinfan04 on Nov 21, 2021 11:04:00 GMT -5
Run the ball at 'em. MSU had 200 yards rushing against U of M. with a steady diet of both (haha duh every game plan known to man) Buckeyes will roll. What’s intriguing is can Michigan’s secondary keep track of the seemingly 4-6 depth on the WR core. They’ll do a better job of it than Sparty that much I’m confident in saying. For all the bragging about the aerial attack OSU unleashed they should keep in mind just how awful sparty’s secondary is this year. Michigan threw for over 400 yards against that dumpster fire and could have had more if not for drops and bad play calling.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 21, 2021 11:18:56 GMT -5
IF you knew anything about the Ohio State passing attack you would know Ohio State has passed for over 300 yards in EVERY game Stroud has been healthy. Ohio State has had THE best offense in the country LONG before they played #7 MSU. U of M HAD to pass against MSU based on them having to come back several times in the game and their run game not being up to par against the MSU defense.
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Post by redskinfan04 on Nov 21, 2021 11:51:22 GMT -5
IF you knew anything about the Ohio State passing attack you would know Ohio State has passed for over 300 yards in ever game Stroud has been healthy. Ohio State has had THE best offense in the country LONG before they played #7 MSU. U of M HAD to pass against MSU based on them having to come back several times in the game and their run game not being up to par against the MSU defense. The running game is a prime example of the Harbaugh stubbornness that holds Michigan down. Throwing the ball at will on Sparty and he insists on running the ball thirty times instead. I’ve always chuckled at how you capitalize words. It’s as if your so insecure about the value of your opinion you feel the need to emphasize their importance.
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Post by sportsjock on Nov 21, 2021 13:19:43 GMT -5
IF you knew anything about the Ohio State passing attack you would know Ohio State has passed for over 300 yards in ever game Stroud has been healthy. Ohio State has had THE best offense in the country LONG before they played #7 MSU. U of M HAD to pass against MSU based on them having to come back several times in the game and their run game not being up to par against the MSU defense. Dumpster fire, huh? What's that make M? Is it mere 'Harbaugh stubborness', 'bad play calling' or is it substandard coaching? Ohio State has been 'holding them down' for the better of 20 years now. #8 Michigan.......33 #7 MSU (dumpster fire)..37
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Post by DrTorch on Nov 21, 2021 13:58:20 GMT -5
UM has a decent QB and WRs who can turn a completion into a long td. Their o line is ok and their run game is meh and our d line has improved but i have seen us get run on too many times before to hang my hat on another 50 total rushing yard performance from our D. The weather also worries me and i also worry what happens to CJ the first time he gets popped. This is the first non-JT Barrett game i have been slightly concerned about in awhile. UM is more than capable of a win on Saturday. They're gonna beat us someday. It would be hilarious tho to watch UM win on Saturday then lose the B10 title game haha. Hopefully this is not the case and we get decent weather and a clean Buckeye pocket.
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Post by baldref on Nov 21, 2021 14:44:47 GMT -5
UM has a decent QB and WRs who can turn a completion into a long td. Their o line is ok and their run game is meh and our d line has improved but i have seen us get run on too many times before to hang my hat on another 50 total rushing yard performance from our D. The weather also worries me and i also worry what happens to CJ the first time he gets popped. This is the first non-JT Barrett game i have been slightly concerned about in awhile. UM is more than capable of a win on Saturday. They're gonna beat us someday. It would be hilarious tho to watch UM win on Saturday then lose the B10 title game haha. Hopefully this is not the case and we get decent weather and a clean Buckeye pocket. Right now forecast cold high 39 but dry. scUM defense, especially two ends, worry me. And scUM is better offensively than they have been for several years. Running attack and passing attack both better. My big hope is that hairball calls his typical big game gaffaws!
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 21, 2021 15:01:35 GMT -5
UM has a decent QB and WRs who can turn a completion into a long td. Their o line is ok and their run game is meh and our d line has improved but i have seen us get run on too many times before to hang my hat on another 50 total rushing yard performance from our D. The weather also worries me and i also worry what happens to CJ the first time he gets popped. This is the first non-JT Barrett game i have been slightly concerned about in awhile. UM is more than capable of a win on Saturday. They're gonna beat us someday. It would be hilarious tho to watch UM win on Saturday then lose the B10 title game haha. Hopefully this is not the case and we get decent weather and a clean Buckeye pocket. THE biggest thing that came out of the game against MSU.....CJ got REALLY popped, got up, brushed himself off and continued to put the ball on the numbers. A downpour on a cold day is a great equalizer. As of now there is no rain in the forecast with a high of 35. Thus far CJ and "Earth, Wind and Fire" have not been affected by 40 degree weather or the heavy unexpected rain at Indy. The team will have a lot of practice time out side The Woody this weak.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 21, 2021 15:22:06 GMT -5
IF you knew anything about the Ohio State passing attack you would know Ohio State has passed for over 300 yards in ever game Stroud has been healthy. Ohio State has had THE best offense in the country LONG before they played #7 MSU. U of M HAD to pass against MSU based on them having to come back several times in the game and their run game not being up to par against the MSU defense. The running game is a prime example of the Harbaugh stubbornness that holds Michigan down. Throwing the ball at will on Sparty and he insists on running the ball thirty times instead. I’ve always chuckled at how you capitalize words. It’s as if your so insecure about the value of your opinion you feel the need to emphasize their importance. I've always chuckled at the ignorance of whining about a few all cap words in a typed conversation. The same reason that when having a spoken conversation, certain worlds are given a different inflection. In both cases, it is done as a point of emphasis. The whole point of writing or speaking is to clearly communicate a message. A couple of words in all caps is a sign of insecurity? In reality whining about a few all cap words is more likely the sign of insecurity. Especially coming from a U of M fan....you begged for that.
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Post by sportsjock on Nov 21, 2021 15:44:55 GMT -5
Nothing particularly 'worries' me about this Michigan team. This is probably the most fundamentally sound Michigan team we have faced in a long time. However, the Buckeyes enjoy superior talent at most every position and possess a unique explosiveness that the boys in blue have not seen all year.
What worries me a little, is the fact we are facing a very desperate football program and a desperate head coach, as it relates to this longtime rivalry. My mind immediately centers on the safety of our QB. It only takes one cheap shot to neutralize him and It's safe to say, there is enough desperation involved, from losing 15 of the last 16 encounters, with all the humiliating embarrassment that has been absorbed by a once proud, once elite program, that anything's entirely possible.
There is that lingering possibility, they would be willing to consign to 'desperate times, call for desperate measures.' I'm hoping Harbaugh has more class and integrity of his profession, to never resort to such a thing......just saying.
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Post by buckeyekid on Nov 21, 2021 16:15:34 GMT -5
Literally your entire post has gone through my mind -
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2021 16:57:31 GMT -5
I don't trust Harbaugh for anything. I've thought about it too, And I'm expecting bounty type cheap shots from him, all game long, Saturday. I really hope nothing happens, And for fans not to throw stuff on the field. But, I do not expect it to be incident free, Knowing we're dealing scUM and especially Harbaugh.
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Post by sportsjock on Nov 21, 2021 17:29:03 GMT -5
The running game is a prime example of the Harbaugh stubbornness that holds Michigan down. Throwing the ball at will on Sparty and he insists on running the ball thirty times instead. I’ve always chuckled at how you capitalize words. It’s as if your so insecure about the value of your opinion you feel the need to emphasize their importance. I've always chuckled at the ignorance of whining about a few all cap words in a typed a conversation. The same reason that when having a spoken conversation, certain worlds are given a different inflection. In both cases, it is done as a point of emphasis. The whole point of writing or speaking is to clearly communicate a message. A couple of words in a caps is a sign of insecurity? In reality whining about a few all cap words is more likely the sign of insecurity. Especially coming from a U of M fan....you begged for that. It is good writing methodology, to highlight a word with all caps to emphasize the rising of one's voice or enhance the importance or meaning of a word, as it relates to the topic sentence. Someone who writes in all caps, all the time, is a different matter altogether. All caps defies good writing practices and writing ethics.
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Post by Birdman on Nov 21, 2021 18:13:59 GMT -5
When I think of those D-ends for TTUN, I hate to say it but I immediately think of Walker from MSU. We held a Heisman hopeful one of the most elite players in college football to JV running stats I refuse to believe if we can do that to him, we can’t account for two all big ten guys at most.
TTUN is desperate, so desperate I would bet money something dirty is done.
Someday we will lose to Michigan, it’s not a matter of if, but when. But that day isn’t next Saturday.
I have all the confidence as long as Ryan Day, is our ball coach this will remain the most important game on the schedule.
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Post by baldref on Nov 21, 2021 18:49:46 GMT -5
Dont forget that scUM cancelled last season game ostensibly because of a COVID outbreak. They will do and try anything and everything to win this game. A 15-yard penalty and/or ejection of some no-name scUM player is worth knocking CJ out on a cheap, dirty shot
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Post by redskinfan04 on Nov 21, 2021 22:23:14 GMT -5
When I think of those D-ends for TTUN, I hate to say it but I immediately think of Walker from MSU. We held a Heisman hopeful one of the most elite players in college football to JV running stats I refuse to believe if we can do that to him, we can’t account for two all big ten guys at most. TTUN is desperate, so desperate I would bet money something dirty is done. Someday we will lose to Michigan, it’s not a matter of if, but when. But that day isn’t next Saturday. I have all the confidence as long as Ryan Day, is our ball coach this will remain the most important game on the schedule. OSU held Walker to JV numbers because he only carried the ball six times. The best way to handle stud running backs is to get up quickly and force the opposing team to throw the ball. To their credit that’s exactly what OSU did to Sparty. They won’t have the luxury of neutralizing Hutch and Ojabo like that. They can try to chip or bring a back into the backfield but they will have to deal with them come Saturday. Also both of them are projected first round draft pick’s with Hutch being mentioned in the top 10. They are a bit more than all big ten type players.
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Post by redskinfan04 on Nov 21, 2021 22:42:24 GMT -5
All this talk of desperate Michigan but what about desperate OSU? Without beating Michigan they’ll have no trip to the B1G championship and zero playoff hopes. A lot on the line for OSU and a lot of pressure on a team who lost at home to a two loss Oregon team that just got hammered by Utah. They also had to go four quarters with some mediocre football teams like Tulsa, Nebraska and Minnesota.
The upside for OSU is that they’ll have the refs on their side. I’m sure the B1G will send their best officiating crew to help you guys out. I wonder if they’ll put the side judge who’s a legit OSU booster on this game like they did in 2016. The best part in that situation was the B1G pulled him off the 2006 game because of the conflict of interest. Somehow ten years later that didn’t matter to the B1G.
I almost can’t wait to see what lengths the refs will go to to make sure the golden goose gets to Indy.
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Post by browns624 on Nov 22, 2021 8:24:34 GMT -5
Seen Michigan play enough and OSU play enough this is another route OSU will win by 20+ points. Buckeyes are just light years ahead of everyone in the Big Ten
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Post by sportsjock on Nov 22, 2021 10:17:35 GMT -5
All this talk of desperate Michigan but what about desperate OSU? Without beating Michigan they’ll have no trip to the B1G championship and zero playoff hopes. A lot on the line for OSU and a lot of pressure on a team who lost at home to a two loss Oregon team that just got hammered by Utah. They also had to go four quarters with some mediocre football teams like Tulsa, Nebraska and Minnesota. The upside for OSU is that they’ll have the refs on their side. I’m sure the B1G will send their best officiating crew to help you guys out. I wonder if they’ll put the side judge who’s a legit OSU booster on this game like they did in 2016. The best part in that situation was the B1G pulled him off the 2006 game because of the conflict of interest. Somehow ten years later that didn’t matter to the B1G. I almost can’t wait to see what lengths the refs will go to to make sure the golden goose gets to Indy. Already getting your excuses organized and in order for another year of disappointment. Distorting the facts loses your credibility. Oregon was undefeated and ranked in the top ten, the vaunted OSU offense racked up 624 yds against the Ducks, but young and innexperienced defense was still finding themselves. The other games you mentioned were never in any danger of being losses. Minnesota was a 2 TD win, Tulsa was a 3 TD win. I am a fan of Scott Frost, great guy and I think he will prove himself as an outstanding coach. Nebraska is very close to turning things around, but this year was a season of frustration for the Huskers, where they were in every single game to the end, but lost at Oklahoma by 1 TD, lost to MSU 23-20 in OT, lost to Minn. by a TD, lost to Purdue by 5 pts., lost to conference juggernaut OSU by 9 pts., lost to Wisconsin by 1 TD. Nebraska can play with anyone in the country, actually a pretty good football team. They gave Michigan quite a scare, didn't they? With the game tied 29-29, Michigan had to kick a 39 yd. FG with :21 seconds left. Rutgers was a squeeker, with the Wolverines pulling out a 20-13 win. Another last minute rescue was the Penn State game. Trailing 14-17 late in the 4th qtr., the Wolverines get the final TD to pull out a another squeeker 21-17. They lost their annual rivalry with 'big brother' in East Lansing 33-37 Again.....what was the Ohio State score? that's right, 56-7.
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Post by Birdman on Nov 22, 2021 10:20:14 GMT -5
Redskin,
So six carries is the Buckeyes fault?? Blame that on MSU, for getting away from their prized RB. Buckeyes made Walker look mediocre. If they can game plan for him, I have no doubt in my mind that they can game plan for two all-big ten ends. Don’t get me wrong those guys will have their shot, but I’m taking that O-line over them.
I see the usual TTUN fan pulls the ref card on this one too. Is that why the Wolverines are 3-17 against Ohio State?
Ohio State has the upper hand in every Column here except stadium capacity. Buckeyes have much much more to lose that I will give you, considering they are vying for a national championship. Again that shows the different mentality these two teams have. Buckeyes expect to be playing in January. TTUN, looks at it as a almost impossible feat.
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Post by Birdman on Nov 22, 2021 10:21:20 GMT -5
All this talk of desperate Michigan but what about desperate OSU? Without beating Michigan they’ll have no trip to the B1G championship and zero playoff hopes. A lot on the line for OSU and a lot of pressure on a team who lost at home to a two loss Oregon team that just got hammered by Utah. They also had to go four quarters with some mediocre football teams like Tulsa, Nebraska and Minnesota. The upside for OSU is that they’ll have the refs on their side. I’m sure the B1G will send their best officiating crew to help you guys out. I wonder if they’ll put the side judge who’s a legit OSU booster on this game like they did in 2016. The best part in that situation was the B1G pulled him off the 2006 game because of the conflict of interest. Somehow ten years later that didn’t matter to the B1G. I almost can’t wait to see what lengths the refs will go to to make sure the golden goose gets to Indy. Already getting your excuses organized and in order for another year of disappointment. Distorting the facts loses your credibility. Oregon was undefeated and ranked in the top ten, none of the games you mentioned were in any danger of being losses. Nebraska can play with anyone in the country, actually a pretty good football team. They gave Michigan quite a scare, didn't they? With the game tied 29-29, Michigan had to kick a 39 yd. FG with :21 seconds left. Rutgers was a squeeker, with the Wolverines pulling out a 20-13 win. Another last minute rescue was the Penn State game. Trailing 14-17 late in the 4th qtr., the Wolverines get the final TD to pull out a another squeeker 21-17. They lost their annual rivalry with 'big brother' in East Lansing 33-37 Took the words right out of my mind!!!
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