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Post by gtab on Oct 28, 2022 21:08:16 GMT -5
I'll eat some crow, I really thought Galion's high power offense would no match for Bellevue. How in the heck could Galion lose to a third string qb. But I will still say we will win State next year we have everyone back and our schedule got a lot easier we will go undefeated next year Exactly "HOW" will Galion's schedule be a lot easier next year? What makes you say/type that?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 28, 2022 21:54:04 GMT -5
I'll eat some crow, I really thought Galion's high power offense would no match for Bellevue. How in the heck could Galion lose to a third string qb. But I will still say we will win State next year we have everyone back and our schedule got a lot easier we will go undefeated next year Crows will not be extinct by next year
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Post by sbclives on Oct 29, 2022 2:08:17 GMT -5
I'll eat some crow, I really thought Galion's high power offense would no match for Bellevue. How in the heck could Galion lose to a third string qb. But I will still say we will win State next year we have everyone back and our schedule got a lot easier we will go undefeated next year Crows will not be extinct by next year I hope Galionfan13 saves some leftover crow for next year.
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Post by Big Lex Fan on Oct 29, 2022 7:33:57 GMT -5
13 year old Galion fan might be 14 next year.
Clear Fork had a nice win last night. Pretty diverse offense with a good mix of the run and pass. Upper showed some good things also. I was impressed with their quarterback. It will now get tougher for the Colts as they travel to Elyria Catholic.
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Post by baldref on Oct 29, 2022 11:02:06 GMT -5
You just hit the mail on the head. The MOAC is not nearly as physical as the NOL or SBC. Shelby has an excuse for struggling this year though. Losing 20+ seniors is never an easy task. I hope that’s it and I may be overreacting, but during the Shelby-Bellevue game this year it was very noticeable. Fan is totally correct. I have been around a few more decades than Fan and witnessed a steady decline in high school football. That's why I admire Nasonti and Bellevue so much, Still tough, physical football players from middle school on up. And they haven't gone league shopping either -- they've stood their ground and competed and ADAPTED the more modern, stylish wide-open play while maintaining their toughness and physicality over the years. I don't buy the Shelby excuse that they were young and wait till next year either. Shelby used the excuse of smaller enrollment and travel times to slink out of the SBC, when, if people would be honest, the then coach realized that Shelby could no longer compete and WIN in the SBC so they sought a smaller, less physical league like the MOAC. Shelby has been blessed in recent years with stellar skill players so they could dominate in the MOAC. That blessing may be coming to an end. Last night it was difficult to gauge whether WH is that good or was Shelby really that bad. Probably a combination of both, I think. Just my thoughts
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Post by GHS 1999 on Oct 29, 2022 20:06:57 GMT -5
I hope that’s it and I may be overreacting, but during the Shelby-Bellevue game this year it was very noticeable. Fan is totally correct. I have been around a few more decades than Fan and witnessed a steady decline in high school football. That's why I admire Nasonti and Bellevue so much, Still tough, physical football players from middle school on up. And they haven't gone league shopping either -- they've stood their ground and competed and ADAPTED the more modern, stylish wide-open play while maintaining their toughness and physicality over the years. I don't buy the Shelby excuse that they were young and wait till next year either. Shelby used the excuse of smaller enrollment and travel times to slink out of the SBC, when, if people would be honest, the then coach realized that Shelby could no longer compete and WIN in the SBC so they sought a smaller, less physical league like the MOAC. Shelby has been blessed in recent years with stellar skill players so they could dominate in the MOAC. That blessing may be coming to an end.  Last night it was difficult to gauge whether WH is that good or was Shelby really that bad. Probably a combination of both, I think. Just my thoughts Well said. I think Galion used a similar excuse to get out of the NOL. They are in the same boat only worse due to them not winning a playoff game minus 2020 which doesn’t count since 1985. You have to beat good teams to be successful in the playoffs and the only one of them in the MOAC this year was Clear Fork. And I don’t see them beating Elyria Catholic.
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Post by 419bossman on Oct 30, 2022 18:37:13 GMT -5
Second Round Match-ups
All Games will be played on Friday November 4th with the higher seeded team hosting
#8 Bellevue vs. #1 Cleveland Glenville at Collingwood High School
#5 Bellville Clear Fork vs. #4 Elyria Catholic
#7 St. Mary's Memorial vs. #2 Millersburg West Holmes
#6 Van Wert vs. #3 Sandusky Perkins
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2022 19:04:42 GMT -5
IS Clear Fork good though? Have my doubts….they only beat River Valley 44-42 and while transitive logic doesn’t always work, I watched that full game on YouTube. The athletes on both sides were very similar. And we saw what Perkins did to that level of athlete so…. Fan is totally correct. I have been around a few more decades than Fan and witnessed a steady decline in high school football. That's why I admire Nasonti and Bellevue so much, Still tough, physical football players from middle school on up. And they haven't gone league shopping either -- they've stood their ground and competed and ADAPTED the more modern, stylish wide-open play while maintaining their toughness and physicality over the years. I don't buy the Shelby excuse that they were young and wait till next year either. Shelby used the excuse of smaller enrollment and travel times to slink out of the SBC, when, if people would be honest, the then coach realized that Shelby could no longer compete and WIN in the SBC so they sought a smaller, less physical league like the MOAC. Shelby has been blessed in recent years with stellar skill players so they could dominate in the MOAC. That blessing may be coming to an end.  Last night it was difficult to gauge whether WH is that good or was Shelby really that bad. Probably a combination of both, I think. Just my thoughts Well said. I think Galion used a similar excuse to get out of the NOL. They are in the same boat only worse due to them not winning a playoff game minus 2020 which doesn’t count since 1985. You have to beat good teams to be successful in the playoffs and the only one of them in the MOAC this year was Clear Fork. And I don’t see them beating Elyria Catholic.
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Post by richrod on Oct 31, 2022 5:28:18 GMT -5
Pirate, I think that regardless of talent Clear Fork may have other issues this upcoming week. IS Clear Fork good though? Have my doubts….they only beat River Valley 44-42 and while transitive logic doesn’t always work, I watched that full game on YouTube. The athletes on both sides were very similar. And we saw what Perkins did to that level of athlete so…. Please elaborate because I have heard nothing about what you have eluded to regarding Clear fork
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Post by moacpops on Oct 31, 2022 22:57:33 GMT -5
CF is a good football team. Are they an elite top 20 kind of team for schools their size in Ohio? I don't think so but we will find out this week. I have a bad feeling the Colts will be done after Friday night.
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Post by sportsfan15 on Nov 2, 2022 12:30:37 GMT -5
Have heard several rumors out of CF... their HC may be coaching in his final game(s). Has apparently severed important relationships within the school, program, and community. Potential mistreatment of staff and players in regards to verbal altercations/statements. Sounds like it has been brewing and may have finally came to a head.
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Post by dude on Nov 2, 2022 13:09:23 GMT -5
Have heard several rumors out of CF... their HC may be coaching in his final game(s). Has apparently severed important relationships within the school, program, and community. Potential mistreatment of staff and players in regards to verbal altercations/statements. Sounds like it has been brewing and may have finally came to a head. There have been rumors of the HC doing those things ever since he has been back. Maybe now he just did it to the 2-3 people that have saving his job.
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Post by sportsfan15 on Nov 3, 2022 12:22:41 GMT -5
Have heard several rumors out of CF... their HC may be coaching in his final game(s). Has apparently severed important relationships within the school, program, and community. Potential mistreatment of staff and players in regards to verbal altercations/statements. Sounds like it has been brewing and may have finally came to a head. There have been rumors of the HC doing those things ever since he has been back. Maybe now he just did it to the 2-3 people that have saving his job. Have only heard about it within the last 5-6 years... however it sounds as if it has gotten extremely bad. To the point 10+ wins will not help keep it subdued any longer.
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Post by dude on Nov 3, 2022 12:50:59 GMT -5
There have been rumors of the HC doing those things ever since he has been back. Maybe now he just did it to the 2-3 people that have saving his job. Have only heard about it within the last 5-6 years... however it sounds as if it has gotten extremely bad. To the point 10+ wins will not help keep it subdued any longer. I hear ya. Rumors of poor treatment and kids quitting with coaches leaving have been going on for at least 10 years now but the HC has had some powerfully influential people in his corner to quiet the screams.
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Post by 419bossman on Nov 4, 2022 10:39:57 GMT -5
The Clear Fork/Elyria Catholic game will be live streamed on the OH Report
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Post by Big Lex Fan on Nov 4, 2022 13:58:09 GMT -5
I hear Elyria Catholic has Clear Fork sitting on the home side of the stadium. With Elyria taking the away side. Reason being the balance of the home stands are condemned. So there are no seats between the 30 yard lines. I'm wondering why the OHSAA didn't make the game be played at Elyria high school?
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Post by runriot742 on Nov 4, 2022 18:15:03 GMT -5
Have only heard about it within the last 5-6 years... however it sounds as if it has gotten extremely bad. To the point 10+ wins will not help keep it subdued any longer. I hear ya. Rumors of poor treatment and kids quitting with coaches leaving have been going on for at least 10 years now but the HC has had some powerfully influential people in his corner to quiet the screams. YULP.
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Post by moacpops on Nov 4, 2022 18:31:18 GMT -5
CF down 21-0 in first quarter.
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Post by runriot742 on Nov 4, 2022 18:42:14 GMT -5
CF down 21-0 in first quarter. After last Friday's antics by Dave, this does not come as a surprise. I think the kids have quit on him. You can only abuse the kids and assistants so far before they phone it in. He's been given such a long rope.
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Post by Big Lex Fan on Nov 4, 2022 20:54:08 GMT -5
Final Score Div IV Region 14
Clear Fork 14 Elyria Catholic 35
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 4, 2022 21:51:31 GMT -5
CF down 21-0 in first quarter. After last Friday's antics by Dave, this does not come as a surprise. I think the kids have quit on him. You can only abuse the kids and assistants so far before they phone it in. He's been given such a long rope. Elyria Catholic has always had very good football teams
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 4, 2022 21:54:29 GMT -5
Have heard several rumors out of CF... their HC may be coaching in his final game(s). Has apparently severed important relationships within the school, program, and community. Potential mistreatment of staff and players in regards to verbal altercations/statements. Sounds like it has been brewing and may have finally came to a head. What is a "school program"?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 4, 2022 22:54:15 GMT -5
Like the MOAC, the SBC Lake Division is also done.
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Post by sportsfan15 on Nov 5, 2022 7:02:21 GMT -5
Have heard several rumors out of CF... their HC may be coaching in his final game(s). Has apparently severed important relationships within the school, program, and community. Potential mistreatment of staff and players in regards to verbal altercations/statements. Sounds like it has been brewing and may have finally came to a head. What is a "school program"? "...school, program, and community." That comma between the two words means they are two different entities. He has ruined relationships in the school building with staff/administration. Also, within the program, with many coaches, players, and boosters.
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Post by dude on Nov 7, 2022 11:12:36 GMT -5
Have heard several rumors out of CF... their HC may be coaching in his final game(s). Has apparently severed important relationships within the school, program, and community. Potential mistreatment of staff and players in regards to verbal altercations/statements. Sounds like it has been brewing and may have finally came to a head. I heard over the weekend one of those relationships was with a wealthy well drilling owner who has a son on the team and repeatedly expressed his desire for his son to be a shining star for the team and the HC never made that happen.
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Post by richrod on Nov 7, 2022 13:14:03 GMT -5
Have heard several rumors out of CF... their HC may be coaching in his final game(s). Has apparently severed important relationships within the school, program, and community. Potential mistreatment of staff and players in regards to verbal altercations/statements. Sounds like it has been brewing and may have finally came to a head. I heard over the weekend one of those relationships was with a wealthy well drilling owner who has a son on the team and repeatedly expressed his desire for his son to be a shining star for the team and the HC never made that happen. Well that is interesting. I have a feeling Coach Carroll isn't going anywhere even after all of this. I don't think anyone down in the valley (admin) wants to fire him, plus if this is over some parents who didn't get their way, I'd say he will be back again next year competing for an MOAC title.
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Post by bronco87 on Nov 8, 2022 10:01:15 GMT -5
Have heard several rumors out of CF... their HC may be coaching in his final game(s). Has apparently severed important relationships within the school, program, and community. Potential mistreatment of staff and players in regards to verbal altercations/statements. Sounds like it has been brewing and may have finally came to a head. I heard over the weekend one of those relationships was with a wealthy well drilling owner who has a son on the team and repeatedly expressed his desire for his son to be a shining star for the team and the HC never made that happen. This sounds like bad information to me... I personally know the man you are referring to. He is kind, and most of all, he is down to earth and humble. I also reached out to some people who would be considered "in the know" and they disagreed as well. The man is a huge supporter of CF athletics and in general. So much so he addressed a concern with the lack of coaching support and decided to come out and help coach this year. Things went downhill for him when coaches and players began experiencing disrespect and unwarranted criticisms. However, this is all hearsay, but definitely worth discussing IMO.
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Post by richrod on Nov 8, 2022 12:33:01 GMT -5
I heard over the weekend one of those relationships was with a wealthy well drilling owner who has a son on the team and repeatedly expressed his desire for his son to be a shining star for the team and the HC never made that happen. This sounds like bad information to me... I personally know the man you are referring to. He is kind, and most of all, he is down to earth and humble. I also reached out to some people who would be considered "in the know" and they disagreed as well. The man is a huge supporter of CF athletics and in general. So much so he addressed a concern with the lack of coaching support and decided to come out and help coach this year. Things went downhill for him when coaches and players began experiencing disrespect and unwarranted criticisms. However, this is all hearsay, but definitely worth discussing IMO. so basically what you're saying is that, they might have a discussion on improving respect and Carroll will still be the coach and looking for some new assistants. Like I said, I don't think anyone in the admin in the valley has the stomach to fire Coach Carroll. However, stranger things have happened I guess. I just honestly don't see CF changing coaches. The other part is, no one seems to know how bad things really are or what exactly has happened. At least on here.
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Post by dude on Nov 8, 2022 13:03:39 GMT -5
I heard over the weekend one of those relationships was with a wealthy well drilling owner who has a son on the team and repeatedly expressed his desire for his son to be a shining star for the team and the HC never made that happen. This sounds like bad information to me... I personally know the man you are referring to. He is kind, and most of all, he is down to earth and humble. I also reached out to some people who would be considered "in the know" and they disagreed as well. The man is a huge supporter of CF athletics and in general. So much so he addressed a concern with the lack of coaching support and decided to come out and help coach this year. Things went downhill for him when coaches and players began experiencing disrespect and unwarranted criticisms. However, this is all hearsay, but definitely worth discussing IMO. No debate he is a big supporter of their athletics and the school. But that does not change his personal interests. He has always known of the disrespect and criticism but chose to ignore as it did not involve him directly. As we get older things change.
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Post by bronco87 on Nov 8, 2022 13:11:06 GMT -5
This sounds like bad information to me... I personally know the man you are referring to. He is kind, and most of all, he is down to earth and humble. I also reached out to some people who would be considered "in the know" and they disagreed as well. The man is a huge supporter of CF athletics and in general. So much so he addressed a concern with the lack of coaching support and decided to come out and help coach this year. Things went downhill for him when coaches and players began experiencing disrespect and unwarranted criticisms. However, this is all hearsay, but definitely worth discussing IMO. so basically what you're saying is that, they might have a discussion on improving respect and Carroll will still be the coach and looking for some new assistants. Like I said, I don't think anyone in the admin in the valley has the stomach to fire Coach Carroll. However, stranger things have happened I guess. I just honestly don't see CF changing coaches. The other part is, no one seems to know how bad things really are or what exactly has happened. At least on here. You are correct, no one knows the whole truth.. But as Dude and some others pointed out, this has been an ongoing issue. Everyone/thing has a breaking point. It would be abnormal to change coaches after a 10-2 season, but if the cons outweigh the pros and things are truly bad for kids, then a change may be made. But as mentioned, who really knows??
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