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Post by Vogel on Oct 9, 2022 15:28:57 GMT -5
| AP | Vogel | Sagarin | Massey | ESPN FPI | Avg of 37 Computers | 1 | Georgia | Georgia | Ohio State | Alabama | Alabama | Alabama | 2 | Ohio State | Alabama | Alabama | Georgia | Ohio State | Georiga | 3 | Alabama | Ohio State | Georgia | Ohio State | Georgia | Ohio State | 4 | Clemson | Clemson | Texas | Michigan | Texas | Clemson | 5 | Michigan | Michigan | Michigan | Oklahoma State | Michigan | Tennessee | 6 | Tennessee | Ole Miss | Clemson | Tennessee | Clemson | Ole Miss | 7 | USC | Tennessee | Utah | Clemson | Tennessee | Michigan | 8 | Oklahoma State | Penn State | Tennessee | Penn State | Ole Miss | USC | 9 | Ole Miss | USC | Oregon | Ole Miss | Utah | TCU | 10 | Penn State | TCU | USC | Texas | USC | Penn State |
James Madison cracks the AP top 25 at #25. We'll see how they respond to having a number next to their name. Illinois cracked the AP Top 25 for the 1st time since 2011 at #24. Sagarin and ESPN FPI really love Texas and their 4-2 record. Alabama, Georgia and Ohio State are the clear Top 3. Order still unknown Vogel Ratings98.85 - Georgia 97.97 - Alabama 97.92 - Ohio State 93.70 - Clemson 93.51 - Michigan 92.78 - Ole Miss 88.60 - Tennessee 86.46 - Penn State 86.34 - USC 84.63 - TCU Similar separation of Top 3 in Sagarin Ratings97.42 - Ohio State 97.39 - Alabama 93.11 - Georgia 88.88 - Texas - 2 losses 87.57 - Michigan 87.14 - Clemson 86.91 - Utah - 2 losses 86.90 - Tennessee 86.35 - Oregon 86.23 - USC Big Games/Intriguing games this weekend Big Ten(5-0) Penn State at (6-0) Michigan (4-1) Minnesota at (5-1) Illinois ACC(6-0) Clemson at (4-2) Florida State (5-1) NC State at (5-0) Syracuse (5-1) North Carolina at (4-2) Duke Big XII(5-1) Kansas at (3-3) Oklahoma - does OU fall to 3-4 (5-0) Oklahoma State at (5-0) TCU Pac 12(6-0) USC at (4-2) Utah (4-2) Washington State at (4-2) Oregon State - who moves to 5-2 SEC(5-1) Mississippi State at (4-2) Kentucky - does Miss St move to 6-1 (4-2) LSU vs (4-2) Florida (6-0) Alabama at (5-0) Tennessee (3-3) Auburn at (6-0) Ole Miss - does Ole Miss move to 7-0 Sun Belt(5-0) #25 James Madison at (3-3) Georgia Southern - Ga Southern already took down Nebraska and only lost by 4 to (6-0) Coastal Carolina Something interesting that I just noticed Notre Dame's schedule Lost to (6-0) Ohio State Still Play (6-0) Clemson Still Play (6-0) USC There is a chance ND might play 3 of the 4 playoff teams this year.
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 12, 2022 15:37:17 GMT -5
Sagarin has Texas plugged in at #4 with 2 losses..lol I have a feeling things will look quite different later in the season, with either Ole Miss, Tennessee, TCU, Oklahoma St. or USC making a major move to the top 5. Michigan and Clemson are a bit murky where they stand.
I have to believe the playoff committee does take a look at these ratings (except Vogel's), developing a feel for how teams relate to one another. The first playoff committee poll comes out Tuesday, Nov. 2nd, after the Ohio State/Penn St. game.
This weekends matchups should further clarify things with Penn St./Mich. and Tenn./Bama Guess I'll quietly be pulling for PSU and the Volunteers on Saturday.
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Post by Vogel on Oct 16, 2022 11:37:17 GMT -5
Exciting Saturday of games. -Bama misses FG with 15 seconds left, then Tenn makes FG with 0:00 to win 52-49 -USC was still up 42-35 late in the 4th with Utah scoring a TD in the final minute and then going for 2 to win 43-42 -TCU trailed 30-16 entering the 4th with Okie St. Got it into OT and won 43-40 to stay undefeated -Texas down 21-17, scored in the final 5 minutes to beat Iowa State 24-21 -Illinois moved to (6-1) with a 26-14 win over Minnesota -James Madison loses it's 1st game as an FBS school (45-38) to Georgia Southern. JMU took a 38-37 lead with 2:28 left in the game, then let GA Southern go 79 yds in 1:18 to retake the lead. | AP | Vogel | Sagarin | Massey | ESPN FPI | Avg of 20 Computers | 1 | (7-0) Georgia | (7-0) Georgia | (6-0) Ohio State | (7-0) Georgia | (6-0) Ohio State | (7-0) Georgia | 2 | (6-0) Ohio State | (6-0) Ohio State | (7-0) Georgia | (6-0) Ohio State | (6-1) Alabama | (6-1) Alabama | 3 | (6-0) Tennessee | (7-0) Michigan | (6-1) Alabama | (6-1) Alabama | (7-0) Georgia | (6-0) Ohio State | 4 | (7-0) Michigan | (7-0) Clemson | (7-0) Michigan | (7-0) Michigan | (7-0) Michigan | (6-0) Tennessee | 5 | (7-0) Clemson | (7-0) Ole Miss | (6-0) Tennessee | (6-0) Tennessee | (5-2) Texas | (7-0) Clemson | 6 | (6-1) Alabama | (6-1) Alabama | (5-2) Texas | (7-0) Clemson | (6-0) Tennessee | (7-0) Michigan | 7 | (7-0) Ole Miss | (6-0) Tennessee | (6-1) USC | (7-0) Ole Miss | (7-0) Clemson | (7-0) Ole Miss | 8 | (6-0) TCU | (6-0) TCU | (7-0) Clemson | (6-0) TCU | (7-0) Ole Miss | (6-0) TCU | 9 | (6-0) UCLA | (6-0) UCLA | (5-2) Utah | (5-2) Texas | (5-2) Utah | (6-1) USC | 10 | (5-1) Oregon | (6-0) Syracuse | (5-1) Oregon | (5-1) Oklahoma State | (6-1) USC | (5-2) Texas |
Texas is #18 in the Vogel Rankings Vogel & Sagarin Rankings. Both rankings are set up that each 1.0 is how much a team would be favored over another on a neutral field. So Georgia would be a 15 pt favorite vs Syracuse on a neutral field in the Vogel Rankings |
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Big/Intriguing Games this weekendBig Ten(3-3) Iowa at (6-0) Ohio State - 1st game since Iowa won (55-24) in 2017 (4-2) Minnesota at (5-1) Penn State - Minn has lost 2 straight ACC(6-0) Syracuse at (7-0) Clemson Big XII(5-1) Kansas State at (6-0) TCU (5-2) Texas at (5-1) Oklahoma State Pac 12(6-0) UCLA at (5-1) Oregon SEC(7-0) Ole Miss at (5-2) LSU (5-2) Mississippi State at (6-1) Alabama
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 16, 2022 12:10:16 GMT -5
My AP rankings prediction for this week: (posted 9 am Saturday)
1. Georgia 2. OSU 3. Mich. 4. Tenn. 5. Clemson 6. Alabama 7. Ole Miss 8. TCU 9. UCLA 10. USC 11. Syracuse
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Post by Vogel on Oct 16, 2022 13:48:44 GMT -5
My AP rankings prediction for this week: (posted 9 am Sunday) 1. Georgia 2. OSU 3. Mich. 4. Tenn. 5. Clemson 6. Alabama 7. Ole Miss 8. TCU 9. UCLA 10. USC 11. Syracuse Close, you forgot that beating Bama on a last second FG is worth 15 1st place votes. While beating a Top 10 Penn State by 20+ is worth nothing. Hence Tenn jumping Michigan, too. AP Top 10 1 Georgia 2 Ohio State 3 Tennessee 4 Michigan 5 Clemson 6 Alabama 7 Ole Miss 8 TCU 9 UCLA 10 Oregon
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 17, 2022 9:35:08 GMT -5
I always enjoy and respect your analytical insight. The CFP committee's slant on things will be most interesting in a couple weeks. I will be looking forward to your projection on this.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Oct 17, 2022 18:01:24 GMT -5
My AP rankings prediction for this week: (posted 9 am Sunday) 1. Georgia 2. OSU 3. Mich. 4. Tenn. 5. Clemson 6. Alabama 7. Ole Miss 8. TCU 9. UCLA 10. USC 11. Syracuse Close, you forgot that beating Bama on a last second FG is worth 15 1st place votes. While beating a Top 10 Penn State by 20+ is worth nothing. Hence Tenn jumping Michigan, too. AP Top 10 1 Georgia 2 Ohio State 3 Tennessee 4 Michigan 5 Clemson 6 Alabama 7 Ole Miss 8 TCU 9 UCLA 10 Oregon Would the committee ever allow Ohio State and U of M and 2 SEC schools play in the first round?
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Post by wetsu on Oct 17, 2022 19:21:16 GMT -5
My AP rankings prediction for this week: (posted 9 am Sunday) 1. Georgia 2. OSU 3. Mich. 4. Tenn. 5. Clemson 6. Alabama 7. Ole Miss 8. TCU 9. UCLA 10. USC 11. Syracuse Close, you forgot that beating Bama on a last second FG is worth 15 1st place votes. While beating a Top 10 Penn State by 20+ is worth nothing. Hence Tenn jumping Michigan, too. AP Top 10 1 Georgia 2 Ohio State 3 Tennessee 4 Michigan 5 Clemson 6 Alabama 7 Ole Miss 8 TCU 9 UCLA 10 Oregon I agree with the Tennessee leapfrogging Michigan head-scratcher, I might consider a 3rd place tie between the two but that isn't kosher in this day and age. Still plenty of football to be played, but a Michigan/Tennessee game looks like it would be a classic. We see what an injury or two can do to an otherwise great team so time will tell who gets hit by it next. It wouldn't bother me in the least if Bama and Clemson lost a game or two down the stretch and didn't make the playoffs, I'm all for a dip in the well where those two are concerned.
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Post by Birdman on Oct 17, 2022 20:12:50 GMT -5
Considering Tennessee’s resume up to today, had they not been placed in the top 3, I would have been highly upset and I’m a SECPN conspiracy theorist!! TTUN hasn’t played one team this year worth a damn and that includes the highly overrated Penn State Kittens.
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Post by wetsu on Oct 17, 2022 21:41:19 GMT -5
Considering Tennessee’s resume up to today, had they not been placed in the top 3, I would have been highly upset and I’m a SECPN conspiracy theorist!! TTUN hasn’t played one team this year worth a damn and that includes the highly overrated Penn State Kittens. I'm with you on the SECPN thing and I see a bright future for Tennesee. Also, I think Texas will be a major contender in the near future. Something tells me that NIL money is going to quickly revitalize the Longhorns via the big oil boys. I'm still of the opinion that the pandemic affected recruiting for everyone. Add in the transfer portal and things are going to get real messy.
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 17, 2022 21:47:19 GMT -5
I was rather surprised USC dropped 5 places with the 1 point loss, but Bama only dropped three.
If they do impose a 12 team playoff, there's a strong probability of multiple loss participants. There would certainly be several one loss teams and possibly a two loss team.
I wasn't impressed with either Tenn. or Bama's secondary. Both defenses looked suspect. Giving up over a half century of points should have constituted a bigger drop than what we saw. On the other hand, giving up 49 points, even in a winning fashion, shouldn't have moved them ahead of Michigan.
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Post by Birdman on Oct 18, 2022 6:28:12 GMT -5
I was rather surprised USC dropped 5 places with the 1 point loss, but Bama only dropped three. If they do impose a 12 team playoff, there's a strong probability of multiple loss participants. There would certainly be several one loss teams and possibly a two loss team. I wasn't impressed with either Tenn. or Bama's secondary. Both defenses looked suspect. Giving up over a half century of points should have constituted a bigger drop than what we saw. On the other hand, giving up 49 points, even in a winning fashion, shouldn't have moved them ahead of Michigan. you know the first thought I had, in regard to those secondary’s, was what could the buckeyes do to them! I will say this about the 2022 season, it’s been WILD!
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Post by wetsu on Oct 18, 2022 8:54:22 GMT -5
I was rather surprised USC dropped 5 places with the 1 point loss, but Bama only dropped three. If they do impose a 12 team playoff, there's a strong probability of multiple loss participants. There would certainly be several one loss teams and possibly a two loss team. I wasn't impressed with either Tenn. or Bama's secondary. Both defenses looked suspect. Giving up over a half century of points should have constituted a bigger drop than what we saw. On the other hand, giving up 49 points, even in a winning fashion, shouldn't have moved them ahead of Michigan. you know the first thought I had, in regard to those secondary’s, was what could the buckeyes do to them! I will say this about the 2022 season, it’s been WILD! OSU's secondary is not exactly the Silver Bullets.
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 18, 2022 12:43:17 GMT -5
you know the first thought I had, in regard to those secondary’s, was what could the buckeyes do to them! I will say this about the 2022 season, it’s been WILD! OSU's secondary is not exactly the Silver Bullets. Not quite yet. Give them some PT, they may be looking better as the season winds down. Like I said, it's not the lack of quality talent or coaching. Be patient with this group. What's got to be really beneficial, is practicing against the best receiving corp in college football everyday.
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Post by Vogel on Oct 18, 2022 15:16:44 GMT -5
Vegas doesn't have spreads for all the remaining games and my Ratings are typically in the ballpark of what Vegas has. So the following is current Vogel Rating spreads for the remaining games.
How I only look at them 20+ pts - should be a sure thing win 11-19 pts - Not a shock if they lose but sizeable favorite 0-9 pts - Better come ready to play underdog - Obviously in for a tough one
Ohio State 21.4 pt favorite vs Iowa (Vegas 29 pt fav) 10.9 pt favorite @ Penn St 40.3 pt favorite @ Northwestern 27.3 pt favorite vs Indiana 12.8 pt favorite @ Maryland 3.0 pt favorite vs Michigan - 3 possible losses if not paying attention every week
Michigan 29.7 pt favorite vs Michigan State 30.0 pt favorite @ Rutgers 34.9 pt favorite vs Nebraska 10.1 pt favorite vs Illinois 3.0 pt UNDERDOG @ Ohio State - 2 possible losses if not paying attention every week
Clemson 10.2 pt favorite vs Syracuse (Vegas 13.5 pt favorite) 18.0 pt favorite @ Notre Dame 24.4 pt favorite vs Louisville 28.2 pt favorite vs Miami 21.7 pt favorite vs South Carolina - 2 possible losses if not paying attention every week (They are going undefeated)
TCU 12.2 pt favorite vs K-State (Vegas 3.5 pt favorite) 21.1 pt favorite @ West Virginia 19.3 pt favorite vs Texas Tech 2.8 pt favorite @ Texas 16.2 pt favorite @ Baylor 16.7 pt favorite vs Iowa State - 5 possible losses if not paying attention every week (I'd guess they go 3-2 in those games and finish 10-2)
Georgia 26.6 pt favorite vs Florida 3.4 pt favorite vs Tennessee 13.7 pt favorite @ Mississippi State 15.4 pt favorite @ Kentucky 26.4 pt favorite vs Georgia Tech - 3 possible losses if not paying attention every week (At Kentucky might be an upset. November 19th game, it could be cold)
Tennessee 41.3 pt favorite vs UT Martin 18.1 pt favorite vs Kentucky 3.4 pt UNDERDOG @ Georigia 26.1 pt favorite vs Missouri 18.6 pt favorite @ South Carolina 27.8 pt favorite @ Vanderbilt - 3 possible losses if not paying attention every week
Alabama 16.3 pt favorite vs Mississippi State (Vegas 21 pt favorite) 8.6 pt favorite @ LSU 0.3 pt UNDERDOG @ Ole Miss 38.4 pt favorite vs Austin Peay 25.4 pt favorite vs Auburn - 3 possible losses if not paying attention every week (It's a Nick Saban team, get ready for them to win out and win the SEC Championship)
UCLA 4.6 pt favorite @ Oregon (Vegas 6.5 UNDERDOG) 25.7 pt favorite vs Stanford 24.1 pt favorite @ Arizona State 29.4 pt favorite vs Arizona 0.9 pt favorite vs USC 21.0 pt favorite @ Cal - 2 possible losses if not paying attention every week (I think they lose both and finish 10-2)
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Post by baldref on Oct 18, 2022 19:53:27 GMT -5
Lov Vogel's synopsis and system .. gives us all a better picture of rest of season. scUM obviously has a pretty clear path to last game, especially since they have such a favorable home schedule. I'm still not convinced about bucks defense however and away at PSU and Maryland concerns me.
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Post by wetsu on Oct 18, 2022 21:59:30 GMT -5
OSU's secondary is not exactly the Silver Bullets. Not quite yet. Give them some PT, they may be looking better as the season winds down. Like I said, it's not the lack of quality talent or coaching. Be patient with this group. What's got to be really beneficial, is practicing against the best receiving corp in college football everyday. Yep, the one-on-one man coverage sessions are either going to make or break a defensive back.
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 19, 2022 7:32:17 GMT -5
Lov Vogel's synopsis and system .. gives us all a better picture of rest of season. scUM obviously has a pretty clear path to last game, especially since they have such a favorable home schedule. I'm still not convinced about bucks defense however and away at PSU and Maryland concerns me. I'm assuming Jim Knowles has his system fully in place and this team is reaching a comfort level, that reaction time is minimalized and brutal aggressiveness becomes the intimidating factor and character of this Ohio State defense. The learning curve for his system is an incremental approach, as he has explained many times. I think Knowles philosophy is, to transform an opponents confident and focused offense, into one that is getting other thoughts infused into their brain, during the course of the game. Different looks, unpredictability, defensive attacks that differentiate from the initial read, creating confusion and doubts. Quite the opposite of what we came to expect last season, when the Buckeyes were quite predictable, defensively. I'm confident, Knowles has quite a few tricks up his sleeve, that won't be revealed this Saturday vs. an anemic offense. That won't be the case the following week vs. Penn State.
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Post by Birdman on Oct 19, 2022 13:34:53 GMT -5
Lov Vogel's synopsis and system .. gives us all a better picture of rest of season. scUM obviously has a pretty clear path to last game, especially since they have such a favorable home schedule. I'm still not convinced about bucks defense however and away at PSU and Maryland concerns me. I'm assuming Jim Knowles has his system fully in place and this team is reaching a comfort level, that reaction time is minimalized and brutal aggressiveness becomes the intimidating factor and character of this Ohio State defense. The learning curve for his system is an incremental approach, as he has explained many times. I think Knowles philosophy is, to transform an opponents confident and focused offense, into one that is getting other thoughts infused into their brain, during the course of the game. Different looks, unpredictability, defensive attacks that differentiate from the initial read, creating confusion and doubts. Quite the opposite of what we came to expect last season, when the Buckeyes were quite predictable, defensively. I'm confident, Knowles has quite a few tricks up his sleeve, that won't be revealed this Saturday vs. an anemic offense. That won't be the case the following week vs. Penn State. I can honestly say we haven’t even seen Knowles full capabilities.
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Post by wetsu on Oct 19, 2022 18:35:50 GMT -5
I'm assuming Jim Knowles has his system fully in place and this team is reaching a comfort level, that reaction time is minimalized and brutal aggressiveness becomes the intimidating factor and character of this Ohio State defense. The learning curve for his system is an incremental approach, as he has explained many times. I think Knowles philosophy is, to transform an opponents confident and focused offense, into one that is getting other thoughts infused into their brain, during the course of the game. Different looks, unpredictability, defensive attacks that differentiate from the initial read, creating confusion and doubts. Quite the opposite of what we came to expect last season, when the Buckeyes were quite predictable, defensively. I'm confident, Knowles has quite a few tricks up his sleeve, that won't be revealed this Saturday vs. an anemic offense. That won't be the case the following week vs. Penn State. I can honestly say we haven’t even seen Knowles full capabilities. The Big 12 was ahead of the curve where defending spread offenses is concerned. Several teams adopted the 3-high safety approach and among those was Knowles. There were some bumps along the way but they can have stout run defenses in the 3-high scheme as evidenced by Iowa State. throwdeeppublishing.com/blogs/news/why-run-the-3-safety-defenseI agree that Knowles is holding his cards close to the vest. More time to rep the schemes and gradually add more wrinkles as the season goes on plus people are seeing the success the base package has had and wondering what else he has up his sleeve.
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Post by Vogel on Oct 24, 2022 7:21:35 GMT -5
Something different this week. I was looking up computer rankings and noticed that Ohio State was 12th in the Wolfe rankings and remembered that his rankings were part of the BCS rankings. 5 of the 6 computer rankings are available this week. I think Anderson & Hester release their rankings next week. Interesting on the wide range in the rankings. I trust Sagarin and Massey the most out of these rating systems. | Billingsley | Wolfe | Sagarin | Massey | Colley | 1 | (8-0) Clemson | (8-0) Clemson | (7-0) Ohio State | (7-0) Ohio State | (8-0) Clemson | 2 | (7-0) TCU | (7-0) Tennessee | (7-1) Alabama | (7-0) Georgia | (7-0) Georgia | 3 | (7-0) Georgia | (7-0) Georgia | (7-0) Georgia | (7-1) Alabama | (7-0) TCU | 4 | (7-0) Tennessee | (7-0) TCU | (7-0) Michigan | (7-0) Michigan | (7-0) Tennessee | 5 | (7-0) Ohio State | (7-1) Alabama | (7-0) Tennessee | (7-0) Tennessee | (7-0) Ohio State | 6 | (7-1) Alabama | (7-0) Michigan | (6-1) USC | (8-0) Clemson | (7-0) Michigan | 7 | (7-0) Michigan | (6-1) Wake Forest | (6-1) Oregon | (7-0) TCU | (7-1) Alabama | 8 | (6-1) Oklahoma State | (6-1) Syracuse | (5-2) Utah | (6-1) Oklahoma State | (6-1) Ole Miss | 9 | (6-1) Ole Miss | (6-1) Oregon | (6-1) Oklahoma State | (6-1) Penn State | (6-1) Oregon | 10 | (6-1) Oregon | (6-1) Penn State | (8-0) Clemson | (5-3) Texas | (6-1) USC | 11 | (6-1) Cincinnati | (6-1) Oklahoma State | (5-3) Texas | (6-1) Ole Miss | (6-1) Syracuse | 12 | (6-1) UCLA | (7-0) Ohio State | (6-2) LSU | (5-2) Kansas State | (6-1) UCLA |
Avg Rating of Computers #11 Penn State #12 Ole Miss #13 Wake Forest #14 LSU #15 Syracuse #16 Utah #17 UCLA #18 Illinois #19 Texas #20 Kansas State . #26 Cincinnati If you go to masseyratings.com/cf/compare.htm he has a whole comparison of a lot of different computer ranking systems. The problem with the BCS computers was they should have either used way more than 6 computers or not used computers that stink at relaying anything close to reality. If through 7 games so far you have Ohio State, Georgia or Michigan outside your Top 8 then your formula stinks. Undefeated and probably the 3 most consistent teams so far out of the undefeated teams. Big Games this weekend Big Ten(7-0) Ohio State at (6-1) Penn State ACCnone Big XII
(6-1) Oklahoma State at (5-2) Kansas State Pac 12(5-2) Utah at (4-3) Washington State - Thursday SEC(5-2) Kentucky at (7-0) Tennessee (7-0) Georgia vs (4-3) Florida Weak Saturday for Top 25 vs Top 25 action.
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Post by Vogel on Oct 24, 2022 7:56:42 GMT -5
Here are 5 different versions of my rankings. They are all going to be similar seeing that each version is a tweak off each other and not a complete overhaul. My rankings are set up to like teams that don't give up a lot of points. So an Illinois is liked. Iowa is liked but they are also #59 in my PC Rankings, you still have to win games. My PC Rankings are the ones I've been posting on here the last few weeks. - They use a dwindling proportion of last years rating through the first 10 games - They penalize losses more than any of the other versions - I like these for straight up Rankings, as W/L matter but are probably the worst at predicting who would win a game. As I'd take (6-2) LSU to beat a (6-1) Illinois but LSU is #15 in my PC Ratings and Illinois #10. All my other versions have LSU > Illinois despite having a worse record. My Oldest Version (used around 2007-2010) was more about who would win a game and record wasn't as important.
| PC Rankings | Tweak on Classic | Classic | 2nd Oldest Version | Oldest Version | Avg of the 5 | 1 | (7-0) Georgia | (8-0) Clemson | (7-0) Georgia | (8-0) Clemson | (7-1) Alabama
| (7-0) Georgia | 2 | (7-0) Ohio State | (7-0) Georgia | (7-0) Ohio State | (7-0) Georgia | (8-0) Clemson
| (8-0) Clemson | 3 | (8-0) Clemson | (7-0) Ohio State | (8-0) Clemson | (7-0) Michigan | (7-0) Georgia
| (7-0) Ohio State | 4 | (7-0) Michigan | (7-0) Tennessee | (7-0) Tennessee | (7-0) Tennessee | (7-0) Michigan
| (7-0) Michigan | 5 | (7-0) Tennessee | (7-1) Alabama | (7-0) Michigan | (7-0) Ohio State | (7-0) Tennessee
| (7-0) Tennessee | 6 | (7-1) Alabama | (7-0) Michigan | (7-1) Alabama | (7-1) Alabama | (7-0) Ohio State
| (7-1) Alabama | 7 | (7-0) TCU | (7-0) TCU | (7-0) TCU | (6-2) LSU | (6-2) LSU | (7-0) TCU | 8 | (6-1) USC | (6-1) USC | (6-1) USC | (7-0) TCU | (7-0) TCU | (6-1) USC | 9 | (7-1) Ole Miss | (6-2) LSU | (6-2) LSU | (6-1) USC | (6-1) USC | (6-2) LSU | 10 | (6-1) Illinois | (6-1) Illinois | (6-1) Illinois | (6-1) Syracuse | (6-1) Syracuse | (6-1) Syracuse | 11 | (6-1) Oregon | (6-1) Syracuse | (6-1) Syracuse | (6-1) Illinois | (6-1) Penn State | (6-1) Illinois | 12 | (6-1) Penn State | (6-1) Penn State | (6-1) Oregon | (6-1) Penn State | (5-2) Utah | (6-1) Penn State |
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Post by cbus on Oct 25, 2022 17:01:36 GMT -5
Valiant attempt to make rankings relevant again. Nice job!
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Post by sportsjock on Oct 26, 2022 7:58:10 GMT -5
I think all polls have a degree of relevance. Relevance in respect to perspective. Perspectives are the result of derived perceptions, that often involve personal biases, creating inaccurate distortions. Expecially the case, early in the season.
The CFP Committee has the luxury to objectively, study all these factors from the early moments of the season. When they gather for the week of their first rating release, things are much more focused and developed than most people could imagine. It wouldn't surprise me in the least, that they have their bracket framework and seedings in a formal and structured manner, going into the Saturday of November 14th. In essence, the following three days are much less hectic than most would think, before the first ratings are released on Tuesday, November 17th.
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