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Post by sportsjock on Nov 19, 2022 9:02:13 GMT -5
USC & Clemson should be ranked ahead of Alabama & LSU.
USC vs. UCLA game will prove if USC should even be in the mix.
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Post by baldref on Nov 19, 2022 9:32:50 GMT -5
USC & Clemson should be ranked ahead of Alabama & LSU. USC vs. UCLA game will prove if USC should even be in the mix. Agree totally BUT it;s the SEC and a 2 loss SEC team is ALWAYS BETTER than any one-loss team from any other conference -- per eSECpn bible.
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Post by ronburgandy on Nov 19, 2022 22:26:03 GMT -5
Tennessee is officially out of any playoff talk after tonight.
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Post by Birdman on Nov 20, 2022 7:24:58 GMT -5
Tennessee is officially out of any playoff talk after tonight. Spencer “Rattle Snake” Rattler, put on a clinic against that vaunted battle tested perennial power house SEC defense of the Tennessee Voluntears. My guess is they drop to 8, because you know they’re a SEC elite team.
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Post by Birdman on Nov 20, 2022 7:34:56 GMT -5
*y rankings, based on the “Bird Syste*.”
1. De* Dogs 2. The Ohio State University 3. that tea* up north 4. Horned Frogs 5. Louisiana State University 6. So Cal Sunny’s 7. Forest Gu*p’s home state 8. Dabo “I* Sweet” Tigers 9. Oregon sucks 10. We are Penn State
11. Tennessee Voluntears
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Post by cbus on Nov 20, 2022 8:46:41 GMT -5
I get that a lot of people think the final 4 should be about resume but I just want to see good football games. If GA crushes LSU in the SEC title game, OSU beats MI and TCU wins out what will be the best matchup against GA in the semifinal. Personally I think GA stomps USC, Clemson etc so, I think the best game will be GA v AL. We saw GA v MI last year and it was not entertaining. This assumes AL wins out.
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Post by Birdman on Nov 20, 2022 9:24:30 GMT -5
I get that a lot of people think the final 4 should be about resume but I just want to see good football games. If GA crushes LSU in the SEC title game, OSU beats MI and TCU wins out what will be the best matchup against GA in the semifinal. Personally I think GA stomps USC, Clemson etc so, I think the best game will be GA v AL. We saw GA v MI last year and it was not entertaining. This assumes AL wins out. I think Georgia, like all the top 1-6 teams, have shown they can be vulnerable and aren’t invincible. Caleb Williams and company can only come out and play if that was the match-up. One thing about Georgia comparing them to the field is they’re not head and shoulders above everyone else. Every team has the ability to beat them. To me there is no Goliath this year and a bunch of David’s. I think looking at what Georgia did to Tennessee has lost a lot of wind in that sail considering the Cacks “purposely spelled that way” more than had their way with them. I also think we need not forget last years Georgias defense was a once in a lifetime group. This years is good, but not 8-11 pro players good.
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Post by cbus on Nov 20, 2022 13:13:20 GMT -5
I get that a lot of people think the final 4 should be about resume but I just want to see good football games. If GA crushes LSU in the SEC title game, OSU beats MI and TCU wins out what will be the best matchup against GA in the semifinal. Personally I think GA stomps USC, Clemson etc so, I think the best game will be GA v AL. We saw GA v MI last year and it was not entertaining. This assumes AL wins out. I think Georgia, like all the top 1-6 teams, have shown they can be vulnerable and aren’t invincible. Caleb Williams and company can only come out and play if that was the match-up. One thing about Georgia comparing them to the field is they’re not head and shoulders above everyone else. Every team has the ability to beat them. To me there is no Goliath this year and a bunch of David’s. I think looking at what Georgia did to Tennessee has lost a lot of wind in that sail considering the Cacks “purposely spelled that way” more than had their way with them. I also think we need not forget last years Georgias defense was a once in a lifetime group. This years is good, but not 8-11 pro players good. I think GA will be double digit favorites over everyone except maybe AL. But who knows, I could be wrong.
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Post by ronburgandy on Nov 20, 2022 17:49:57 GMT -5
I see Hendon Hooker suffered a torn ACL. Definitely hate to see that for any player. Tennessee’s season has come to a crushing end quickly.
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Post by wetsu on Nov 20, 2022 20:01:28 GMT -5
I get that a lot of people think the final 4 should be about resume but I just want to see good football games. If GA crushes LSU in the SEC title game, OSU beats MI and TCU wins out what will be the best matchup against GA in the semifinal. Personally I think GA stomps USC, Clemson etc so, I think the best game will be GA v AL. We saw GA v MI last year and it was not entertaining. This assumes AL wins out. I think Georgia, like all the top 1-6 teams, have shown they can be vulnerable and aren’t invincible. Caleb Williams and company can only come out and play if that was the match-up. One thing about Georgia comparing them to the field is they’re not head and shoulders above everyone else. Every team has the ability to beat them. To me there is no Goliath this year and a bunch of David’s. I think looking at what Georgia did to Tennessee has lost a lot of wind in that sail considering the Cacks “purposely spelled that way” more than had their way with them. I also think we need not forget last years Georgias defense was a once in a lifetime group. This years is good, but not 8-11 pro players good. It appears that way to me as well. Any thoughts as to why? It seems to be a combination of factors stemming from the pandemic, NIL and the portal.
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Post by Birdman on Nov 21, 2022 8:51:09 GMT -5
Wetsu,
IMO, I think COVID played a role in the competitive nature of the game at its peak, due greatly to how each conference handled protocol. This year I think that’s pretty much gone, heck COVID in general is still around, but I don’t hear about it much.
NIL- This one is big, but I honestly think a lot of these high school kids who are in the “elite” category know they’re going to make money anywhere they go. With that said, I also think these young athletes are still picking their college of choice not by where am I going to get paid the most, but where do I have a chance to start, win a NC, and improve my future draft stock.
As it stands some of these midwestern teams, Miami U, and various other colleges have supporters and donors that are making hundreds of millions of dollars and while you see young athletes going to these schools, the likes of Ohio State, Alabama, Clemson, Georgia, etc are still consistently winning in the recruiting area. That gives me the impression while these athletes know they can make money there, those other factors are just as important if not more important. Why go to say Texas A&M on an average team, make 3 millions in NIL money, but potentially show pro scouts average-above average footage. Now if you’re good, you’re good and we have seen that from Dlll players making the league, but if you think you’re the best, you want to be on a team that’s not only in the spot light, but is also going to give you the opportunity to play in those big games to shine even more. Another aspect to look at is the WR room for OSU as of the last 5-7 years. They have had countless guys come play, shine, then make the league and have success. Again I ask, why go to college A, make a boat load of money, when college B is going to give you the best shot at propelling yourself up the draft list.
Transfer Portal- I’m not quite sure how I feel about this aspect of college football. On one side of the coin you have kids transferring to ensure they become a starter, then you have reasons 2-25 on why a kid is transferring. I’ve seen this year a boat load of kids transfer from mid major college schools to major college schools and put themselves on the map, when had they stayed at Westerm Kentucky University, they wouldn’t have gotten the same attention or exposure to scouts. USC is a prime example of what the portal does to a team. If Caleb Williams didn’t transfer with pretty boy Floyd, can we honestly sit here and make the argument USC would be the AP #5 team in the country with one loss. It really turned the NCAA, into a minor league NFL (already was but now even greater). The greatest impact I think the portal will have is to potentially create super giants and allow teams to have very quick turnaround. It may also allow some schools to pouch for certain positions to ensure they can put the best team possible on the field to win a Naddy.
The main reason I think, while Georgia is the team, that everyone is around the same comes down to talent. 20-30 years ago the difference between a 2-star and a 5-star was much more substantial than it is today. Sure there are some extremely talented kids out there, but a crop of 3-stars may/can pan out better than a crop of 4/5-stars. So much in college depends on the coaching, play calling, and untapped potential of these young athletes. The talent gap is very quickly evening out and while your 5-star may be talented, nothing says a 3-star can’t do the same thing now days. I will be very intrigued to see how A&M’s recruiting classes do based on them getting so many talented kids to see how they pan out compared to other programs that didn’t recruit as well.
Take one look at the NFL this year. The records speak for themselves. Beyond 1-3 teams (and they have shown their vulnerability) the talent amongst all NFL teams shows on any given day, anyone can win and I think that speaks to the talent gap no longer being a valid aspect of the game. I also know that “it’s the pros, they’re all the best” but I feel a lot of this has to do with there no longer being a size-able talent gap even amongst pro teams and athletes.
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Post by wetsu on Nov 21, 2022 11:33:28 GMT -5
I agree with everything you stated but I wonder if the lack of contact with recruits during the pandemic put the recruiting process into flux? Teams were forced to wing it more and the migration of athletes to the major powers took a hit resulting in parity.
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Post by Birdman on Nov 21, 2022 12:23:07 GMT -5
I agree with everything you stated but I wonder if the lack of contact with recruits during the pandemic put the recruiting process into flux? Teams were forced to wing it more and the migration of athletes to the major powers took a hit resulting in parity. Completely plausible. I’d be interested in knowing how virtual meetings were used to assist them.
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