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Post by fanofthegame on Nov 8, 2022 7:55:40 GMT -5
Stroud seems to want to make everyone at the next level realize he’s a pocket QB. Too often a lot of real estate opens up in front of him while receivers are covered and he refuses to run. Come on. Nobody is going to confuse him with Tim Tebow. Take the yards. Mahomes and Jackson do it and I think their NFL teams appreciate it.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 8, 2022 9:12:18 GMT -5
Sportsjock,..think about it....the QB DOES NOT turn his back to the defense when they run play action from the shotgun. Like he must do if it's play action from under center. My point has nothing to do with QB sneak or "quick hitter". It is ALL about the QB having to look away from what the secondary is doing AND not having as much time to go through his progressions, when it's a pass play.
Answer me this, why have offenses at all levels almost completely gone to a primary shotgun offense?
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Post by sportsjock on Nov 8, 2022 11:16:06 GMT -5
Sportsjock,..think about it....the QB DOES NOT turn his back to the defense when they run play action from the shotgun. Like he must do if it's play action from under center. My point has nothing to do with QB sneak or "quick hitter". It is ALL about the QB having to look away from what the secondary is doing AND not having as much time to go through his progressions, when it's a pass play. Answer me this, why have offenses at all levels almost completely gone to a primary shotgun offense? Oh, I certainly thought about your first point and it's a very viable point. Let me again esplain. This is for limited situations when you are within the 5 yd. line. Basically, it's going to be a predisigned play, with few, if any option reads. A lot more teams do this than most of us realize. All NFL teams use both shotgun and under center, so they practice both. Both have their advantages and disadvantages, and one isn't inherently better than the other. It depends on the schemes you're trying to run and the skill-sets of your coaches and players. Hell, the Rams used their QB undeer center 70% of the time in 2018. This is in no way dispelling today's shotgun offense, just saying there are times when going 'old school' can have it'e advantages. I see it every once in a while where the QB gets in the deep set and shows the look. that he is moving right to left, barking out a chenge and suddenly takes the snap from center, creating a tight formation and catching the D unaware. LB's can read a QB in the bun much easier, because the position the RB gets set in relation to his QB. RB lines up a couple steps further back more likely a running play, parallel to his QB more likely a pass play. The other advantage the RB enjoys is increased momentum he has at the point of attack. Holes open and close very quickly and a clock must be sustained longer from the gun. A lot of the service academy's utilize under center in their scheme of things. Especialy in high school, the veer and wishone etc. give teams an adavantage merely because opposing defenses see very little of it and it becomes hard to prepare for. This may be of interest to you. It's Ohio State offensive coordinator Urchich from 2019 talking about plans to incorporate under center snap as a an important element in their offense. Ends up, they snapped under center like 27% of the time that season, with Justin Fields. blogs.usafootball.com/blog/7561/trending-under-center-offense
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 9, 2022 18:20:05 GMT -5
Under center a few times per game... in the right place at the right time. Rarely if ever on a pass play. As it is a detriment to the QB reads
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Post by sportsjock on Nov 10, 2022 8:26:30 GMT -5
Under center a few times per game... in the right place at the right time. Rarely if ever on a pass play. As it is a detriment to the QB reads I totally agree. Good discussion....anyway.
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