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Post by sbclives on Nov 9, 2022 19:25:50 GMT -5
Good luck with that travel going to Dover and NP for the western OCC schools. I guess other schools who’d be a good fit aren’t ready for that kind of competition. "Good fit" LOL....Those "other schools" would have even longer trips to Wooster, West Holmes and New Philly, than current OCC schools. LOOK at a map. I clearly left out NP in my proposal for a new OCC a few posts back. Learn how to read thoroughly.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 9, 2022 19:57:38 GMT -5
Not true. Ontario has not had multiple chances when the OCC needed a school. They were already in 8 school leagues they were happy with. Ontario was never an independent desperate for a league to get into. Ontario NEVER left a league. Schools do not change leagues to make schools in another league happy. Ontario never searched and hunted. When the NCC kicked then out, the NOL needed a school, so they join the NOL. Then the NOL imploded and joined the SBC. Ontario did not want to travel north to Lake Erie for almost every game. So they worked with Galion, Clear Fork, Shelby and the remaining Marion county schools to save the MOAC. That often thought league is nothing more than pie in the sky. Galion has NEVER had interest. Clear Fork tried the OCC and did not like it. Shelby had a chance but.....Willard is silliness, just ask them. Ontario is now in an 8 school league with Shelby, Galion, Clear Fork and River Valley, which they helped save. They should change to make 3 schools in the OCC happy? If this league is all about closeness, travel and gates, where is Ashland?? A current close by OCC member that brings big gates you do know that when west holmes was asked to join the ECOL, the OCC talked to Ontario about joining a bigger league since they had been dominate is some sports in the NCC. They were also then talked to when it was discovered the NCC was kicking them out. Then again when the NOL folded and the SBC gave every school but Ontario an invitation, Ontario was contacted about a potential 10 team league. They were quick and clear to turn it down every time. you do know that WH said no thanks. Other schools have their ears to the ground and find out about rumblings before they happen or do not. Just like dude blathered about Mt.V before anything was announced.. You do know that bigger is not better. Look what happened to the NCC when it got bigger. Have you not heard the complaining about the bigger SBC? The SBC offered Ontario a spot in the Bay. Ontario said no thanks due to the travel. Then went to work to help save the MOAC. AGAIN 8 is favored over 10. Quick and clear always means there is something better.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 9, 2022 20:02:52 GMT -5
"Good fit" LOL....Those "other schools" would have even longer trips to Wooster, West Holmes and New Philly, than current OCC schools. LOOK at a map. I clearly left out NP in my proposal for a new OCC a few posts back. Learn how to read thoroughly. LOLOL I clearly saw that, but it was stupid to leave them out when they ARE a member of the OCC. THUS if "one of those schools" replaced Mt.V they MUST play New Philly. You can do better than that, keep tryin
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Post by A no.1 on Nov 9, 2022 21:13:54 GMT -5
I would ask about a trade Marion Pleasant to the Northern 10, and Upper Sandusky to the MOAC. Then add Lexington and Madison for a 10 team league. Of course I am just spit balling here. I also like the thought of the SBC Lake and the western OCC schools getting together. Since none of that will happen any time soon I still have a feeling that Dover is next man up for the OCC. Upper had a chance to get in the MOAC when they were kicked out of the NCC. But then another school was needed, so the next year they invited Upper back and they jumped at the chance with their tales between their legs. I mentioned on here before that a Pleasant/Upper Sandusky swap would be a more than fair trade. Size wise and geographically it makes sense.
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Post by GHS 1999 on Nov 9, 2022 22:53:39 GMT -5
Dover makes too much sense for the OCC at this point. The problem Lex has is now the MOAC is at 8. There is nowhere for Pleasant to go. Remember, Pleasant applied to the N10, along with Willard, and the N10 said no thanks.
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Post by dude on Nov 11, 2022 10:37:27 GMT -5
Dover makes no sense for most of the OCC. The KMAC is keeping an open spot for someone. Who?
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Post by sbclives on Nov 11, 2022 11:44:42 GMT -5
What league is Dover currently in now?
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Post by dude on Nov 11, 2022 12:15:30 GMT -5
What league is Dover currently in now? They were in the East Central Ohio League but it disbanded after the 21-22 school year and now Dover is independent.
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Post by Big Lex Fan on Nov 11, 2022 16:12:45 GMT -5
Dover makes no sense for most of the OCC. The KMAC is keeping an open spot for someone. Who? Well... Nobody from the OCC. I thought Lucas could be a good fit.
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Nov 11, 2022 17:20:43 GMT -5
The KMAC is keeping an open spot for someone. Who? Not sure what you mean. Loudonville just became their 8th member this year (for football only) Are you suggesting they are going to kick Loudenville out in favor of some other school as a full member?
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Post by sbclives on Nov 11, 2022 19:24:33 GMT -5
The KMAC is keeping an open spot for someone. Who? Not sure what you mean. Loudonville just became their 8th member this year (for football only) Are you suggesting they are going to kick Loudenville out in favor of some other school as a full member? Is Loudonville an independent for everything else?
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Nov 11, 2022 19:58:36 GMT -5
Not sure what you mean. Loudonville just became their 8th member this year (for football only) Are you suggesting they are going to kick Loudenville out in favor of some other school as a full member? Is Loudonville an independent for everything else? No, they are in the Mid-Buckeye Conference, which does not do football Loudonville, Lucas, Crestline, Mansfield St Peter's, Mansfield Christian and Kidron Central Christian
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Post by GHS 1999 on Nov 11, 2022 21:20:07 GMT -5
Dover makes no sense for most of the OCC. The KMAC is keeping an open spot for someone. Who? It does make sense with New Philadelphia already in the league. The next domino to fall is what Lex, Mansfield, and Madison decide to do. Do you think Pleasant would be a good fit in the KMAC? I assumed they had their eye on Utica, or another school to the south.
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Post by dude on Nov 12, 2022 0:25:31 GMT -5
The KMAC is keeping an open spot for someone. Who? Not sure what you mean. Loudonville just became their 8th member this year (for football only) Are you suggesting they are going to kick Loudenville out in favor of some other school as a full member? As you said, Loudonville is a football only member not a full member of the league.
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Post by sportsfan15 on Dec 14, 2022 8:29:43 GMT -5
After reading the article from Curt Conrad this morning on Richland Source about the OCC issues I anticipate a mess for the league. I know Marion Harding is not as competitive across the board in all sports, however size wise they would align fairly well with current enrollments. They are D-2 in football and D-1 in Basketball. Even though their lack of athletic success against smaller schools has been consistent, they do not belong in the MOAC. This would be around an hour and a half drive for WH and Wooster. Similar in comparison to what all the Richland County OCC schools would have when going to NP and Dover. This would allow the MOAC to potentially obtain another member that is more suitable size wise and may even offer better all around competition athletically. Initial thoughts would be Upper Sandusky as they are a bigger fish in the small pond of the N10. Or possibly an SBC school as they have their own issues.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 14, 2022 9:48:34 GMT -5
Marion to Dover and New Philly = 100 miles and 2 hours. That's 4 hours on a bus during the week for 7th and 8th graders to spend 3 to 4 hours at a school playing 2 basketball games. NO WAY any of those schools want that insanity.
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Post by dude on Dec 14, 2022 11:41:43 GMT -5
I don't think Harding would be an considered option for obvious reasons.
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Post by sportsfan15 on Dec 14, 2022 12:48:52 GMT -5
Marion to Dover and New Philly = 100 miles and 2 hours. That's 4 hours on a bus during the week for 7th and 8th graders to spend 3 to 4 hours at a school playing 2 basketball games. NO WAY any of those schools want that insanity. You are assuming Dover is in the conference. I agree that is far trip for MH, especially during the week... however, the OCC created this monster by accepting New Philly in the first place.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 14, 2022 16:31:08 GMT -5
If anyone takes the OCC out of their 7 team league predicament it's Dover, since they've already done New Philly. The monster that's been created would scare the hell out of Harding being interested.
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Post by dude on Dec 15, 2022 5:41:11 GMT -5
Marion to Dover and New Philly = 100 miles and 2 hours. That's 4 hours on a bus during the week for 7th and 8th graders to spend 3 to 4 hours at a school playing 2 basketball games. NO WAY any of those schools want that insanity. You are assuming Dover is in the conference. I agree that is far trip for MH, especially during the week... however, the OCC created this monster by accepting New Philly in the first place. The MH comfort level is at an all time high right now with them being in the MOAC. They will never actively go against that.
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Post by Big Lex Fan on Dec 15, 2022 16:29:00 GMT -5
The MOAC would not want Marion Harding in the league if the ever got back to the talent level in football they had back in the late 90s or early 2000's. When Hinton was coaching there.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 15, 2022 19:04:30 GMT -5
As long as many of their athletes transfer to other Marion county schools the talent level will never get back to what it was when Hinton was the coach.
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Post by dude on Dec 16, 2022 11:51:28 GMT -5
The MOAC would not want Marion Harding in the league if the ever got back to the talent level in football they had back in the late 90s or early 2000's. When Hinton was coaching there. In reality, Harding probably does not want that talent back as they know they would find themselves searching for a new league.
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Post by jakethesnake2 on Dec 16, 2022 13:50:21 GMT -5
Marion to Dover and New Philly = 100 miles and 2 hours. That's 4 hours on a bus during the week for 7th and 8th graders to spend 3 to 4 hours at a school playing 2 basketball games. NO WAY any of those schools want that insanity. I think people forget Harding was in the Buckeye and Greater Buckeye
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 16, 2022 21:44:19 GMT -5
Not me, they don't have to travel those distances now in the MOAC, nor do they have to play larger schools.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 16, 2022 21:53:41 GMT -5
Dover makes no sense for most of the OCC. The KMAC is keeping an open spot for someone. Who? New Philly made no sense for most of the OCC either. NOW Dover makes more sense than New Philly did
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 16, 2022 21:58:14 GMT -5
The MOAC would not want Marion Harding in the league if the ever got back to the talent level in football they had back in the late 90s or early 2000's. When Hinton was coaching there. In reality, Harding probably does not want that talent back as they know they would find themselves searching for a new league. From what I saw this year Harding had very little talent. AND no discipline. In the game I saw their players and their coaching staff had 4 unsportsmanlike penalties in 4 out of 5 plays in succession. In all my years, I had never seen anything close to that at any level.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 16, 2022 21:59:57 GMT -5
The MOAC would not want Marion Harding in the league if the ever got back to the talent level in football they had back in the late 90s or early 2000's. When Hinton was coaching there. In reality, Harding probably does not want that talent back as they know they would find themselves searching for a new league.
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Post by dude on Jan 4, 2023 22:57:57 GMT -5
Ashland Arrows looking for a new football coach
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Post by GHS 1999 on Jan 9, 2023 22:37:50 GMT -5
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